2005 Attendances

[Lim till i die]

Limerick v Dublin City. The official figure announced at the game was 690 something

[WindmillWarrior]

The official attendances seem to be given in one of our local papers these days. Drogs v Waterford was given as 1,102.

[pineapple stu]

Updated, thanks.

[Carlin]

Can't remember if all the Bohs attendances on this thread are official but here's all the official ones anyway.....

18/03/05 Rovers 3,873
01/04/05 Derry 2,132
15/04/05 Cork 1,998
22/04/05 Harps 1,560
13/05/05 Longford 1,952
27/05/05 Shels 3,235
01/07/05 Waterford 1,319
22/07/05 Drogheda 1,987
29/07/05 UCD 1,200
11/08/05 Bray 1,110

Taken from this thread http://gypsiesweb.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1124819999

[pineapple stu]

4000-odd at Dundalk-Drogheda, I think I heard the PA man say. Something like 4,120. Nearly twice as many people as have gone to their home games over the entire season! :eek:

[superfrank]

I'd say 500 (if we're lucky) at the Orchard match tonight. Very disappointing!! :(

[DonO'Bate]

4000-odd at Dundalk-Drogheda, I think I heard the PA man say. Something like 4,120. Nearly twice as many people as have gone to their home games over the entire season! :eek:

RTE Radio Sport gave the figure as 4,152.

[Buller]

Yeah the official attendence was 4,152, a bloody huge crowd for dundalk!!! fair play to them...

[holidaysong]

Yeah the official attendence was 4,152, a bloody huge crowd for dundalk!!! fair play to them...

A lot of those seemed like first timers, hopefully they will be back for more on Thursday night... :)

[Da Real Rover]

Biggest crowd of the season so far for us,
New Stand = 1500
Shed End = 200
Jinks Avenue = 700
Total = 2400

[Stato]

Official attendance for Sligo v St Pats: 1,866 (counted at the turnstiles)

For the record, there are 1,550 seats in the new stand and 853 seats in the blue stand.

[pineapple stu]

Very interesting... Where'd you get that info from? Any chance you can get some of the figures from the previous league games, or is it only because it was a Cup game that the attendance was counted?

I reckoned 500 at Longford-UCD. Main stand looked one-quarter full, with another 100 or so in the rest of the ground. Town fans reckon 800-1000.

[Stato]

Pats had people on each turnstile checking the numbers as they came in. They do this at cup games as they get a share of the gate. 1,866 was the total I got from them when I asked.

From what I saw they can't be far wrong. The new stand had about 200 empty seats, particularly at the end furthest from the turnstiles, the blue stand was probably a third full and there was probably another couple of hundred standing.

[Slash/ED]

Pats certinaly wouldn't under estimate the crowd anyway.

[trevy]

800 at Longford v UCD according to yesterdays Sunday Independent.

[paudie]

Official attendnces for Cork City last 2 home league games as per UEFA cup programme.

Waterford 3,100
Shels 5,100.

Cant remember exact figures. Will check and edit tommorrow.

[Da Real Rover]

Official attendance for Sligo v St Pats: 1,866 (counted at the turnstiles)

For the record, there are 1,550 seats in the new stand and 853 seats in the blue stand.
That seems far too small, 1550 is the capacity in the new stand and the max amount of seats empty was 100 no way was there any more missing. Jinks avenue was probably 1/3 to a half full, around 250, And there were 200 or so around the shed. Looks like my guesstimate on jinks avenue was seriously dubious, but apart from there i was right. Now that i count it up that looks about right to your figure.

[higgins]

City v Shels i'd go for 7000 as very few empty seats &plenty of people standing, shed also had more than official capacity.

Why do people feel the need to add thousands to their home gates :(

[pete]

Official attendnces for Cork City last 2 home league games as per UEFA cup programme.

Waterford 3,100
Shels 5,100.

Cant remember exact figures. Will check and edit tommorrow.

I think they announced the Shels figure as 5350 or something. Waterford figure seems about right from my memory of the programme.

Its possible City don't include season ticket holders as hard to keep track of their numbers as they just flash a card at the gate?

[Schumi]

1550 is the capacity in the new stand
Thought it looked bigger than that when I was down there last year. Does it go the full length of the pitch?

[pineapple stu]

It's possible City don't include season ticket holders as hard to keep track of their numbers as they just flash a card at the gate?
Or it's possible that Cork fans continually overestimate the number of fans they have by a good deal? ;)

Why would the Waterford crowd be right and the Shels one be wrong? Only posisble if no season ticket holders went to the Waterford game.

[sligoman]

Does it go the full length of the pitch?Yep, pretty much. I thought it held 2000? :confused:

[Stato]

Yep, pretty much. I thought it held 2000? :confused:

I asked Pats' club secretary and he told me they'd counted the number of seats beforehand in case there was any argument over the amount of the gate receipts and they counted 1550 including the directors box. They also counted the blue stand which is where the 853 figure comes from.

[sligoman]

I asked Pats' club secretary and he told me they'd counted the number of seats beforehand in case there was any argument over the amount of the gate receipts and they counted 1550 including the directors box. They also counted the blue stand which is where the 853 figure comes from.Jesus, Pat's were making sure they didn't miss out on a cent anyway :rolleyes:. Stingy fcukers! :mad:

[Terry]

I asked Pats' club secretary and he told me they'd counted the number of seats beforehand in case there was any argument over the amount of the gate receipts and they counted 1550 including the directors box. They also counted the blue stand which is where the 853 figure comes from.


Surely this would throw all the attendances for Sligo way out of proportion ???? :eek:

[Redzer]

Surely this would throw all the attendances for Sligo way out of proportion ???? :eek:
Yes Terry, everyone who comes to the Showgrounds, leaves with big belly's, small legs and overgrown toenails.
Way, way out of proportion. :D

[pineapple stu]

Surely this would throw all the attendances for Sligo way out of proportion ???? :eek:
Wait and see what their website comes up with first - most of the figures come from there.

[MariborKev]

I think they announced the Shels figure as 5350 or something. Waterford figure seems about right from my memory of the programme.

Its possible City don't include season ticket holders as hard to keep track of their numbers as they just flash a card at the gate?


Or they just assume that all the season ticket holders turn up, and then add this to the number of tickets sold

[sligoman]

Wait and see what their website comes up with first - most of the figures come from there.The website already says it. 2000 is the figure on it.

[pineapple stu]

Official attendnces for Cork City last 2 home league games as per UEFA cup programme.

Waterford 3,100
Shels 5,100.
Versus 5000 at 7000 here! ;)

[Da Real Rover]

The website already says it. 2000 is the figure on it.
Oops terry, a sure that wont stop yee, go on have another bitter jealous rant on how could we be possibly getting gates that seem to dwarf that small club down there into an even smaller and MORE bitter club??

[OneRedArmy]

Official attendnces for Cork City last 2 home league games as per UEFA cup programme.

Waterford 3,100
Shels 5,100


Versus 5000 and 7000 here! ;)
Bloody Rip Off Ireland, inflation is rampant.

Maybe Eddie Hobbs, Corkonian that he is, can sort it out? :D

[Patrick Dunne]

.. is to compare and analyse attendances over this season and last season.
This is the only way we can make an informed opinion as to whether summer football has been a success, whether Friday night is the best night for games, etc.

Its not a "we are bigger than you" thread !!! :mad:

If there are 78 people at Terryland next Friday, then the attendance will be reported as 78. Ergo, if there were 1800 people in the Showgrounds last Friday, which is a very good attendance, why not report it as 1800. I don't see the point of artifically inflating, or deflating, attendances.

[sligoman]

I don't see the point of artifically inflating, or deflating, attendances.Neither do I PD, but we dont know the actual attendance that's why I go by whatever goes up on the site so blame the webmaster

[Da Real Rover]

.. is to compare and analyse attendances over this season and last season.
This is the only way we can make an informed opinion as to whether summer football has been a success, whether Friday night is the best night for games, etc.

Its not a "we are bigger than you" thread !!! :mad:

If there are 78 people at Terryland next Friday, then the attendance will be reported as 78. Ergo, if there were 1800 people in the Showgrounds last Friday, which is a very good attendance, why not report it as 1800. I don't see the point of artifically inflating, or deflating, attendances.
The MC dont count attendances, i dont know why but thats the way it is (they could be still suffering from sticky fingers) or they just couldnt be arsed. Remember the time when we we're in our deepest debt was when we wer rakeing in the cash and wer getting up on 7000 in 94. Something strange about that, but i dont know why we have to try and guesstimate the crowd. Our figures are not to the one and the ten but usually correct if you give or take a hundred.

[paudie]

Official attendnces for Cork City last 2 home league games as per UEFA cup programme.

Waterford 3,100
Shels 5,100.

Cant remember exact figures. Will check and edit tommorrow.

Waterford 3159
shels 5379

[Terry]

Oops terry, a sure that wont stop yee, go on have another bitter jealous rant on how could we be possibly getting gates that seem to dwarf that small club down there into an even smaller and MORE bitter club??

What kind of tosser are you? All I asked was would this be putting the attendance figures out for all the other matches so as everyone thought that the stand held more people than that !!

Idiot of the highest order :rolleyes:

[higgins]

I don't see the point of artifically inflating, or deflating, attendances.

I agree with Patrick,
Its very sad that it turns into the 'we got more then you' rubbish. Also annoying that when official figures are released that they are also questioned as being too low :eek: The 7000 that turned into 5379 and the number of other games where the official figure came in a lot lower shows that either you are part of the 'we got more then you' group or simply cant tell how many your stadium holds :confused:

For the sake of this thread would it not be best to say nothing if you dont have a good idea how many were present ?

Its also strange that the crowds are never under estimated down Turners Cross!! You have by far the best crowds out of everyone so inflating them further really does nobody any good. Some have even stated attendences over the capacity of your stadium :mad:

[pete]

I couldn't be bother wading back through the thread but while i;m sure someone said 7000 i estimated 6200-6500 or similar myself.

The cross is easy to calculate

Main stand - 1850 (will always have 1500+)
Derrynane opposite camera - 1100 (usually 800+)
Shed - official capacity 1500 but anything from 1000-2000
St Annes End - 3000 capcity but usually hardly to estimate.

Because we have bigger crowds our estimates are out by more.
If i over estimate 5300 to 6500 thats the same as overestimating a 1500 as 1850.

[Redzer]

The MC dont count attendances, i dont know why but thats the way it is
I'm not sure that statment is 100% correct, that the MC dont count attendances. Because our turnstiles are not fitted with counters, it is near impossible to give an absolute accurate figure.
My understanding is, and I have asked members of the MC to clarify this situation. They issue a pass to each one entering the ground as they purchase their ticket. This pass is either Adult, student or OAP. This is how they check if the money collected is equal to the amount of passes given.
Season tickets holders, match night sponsors, match night workers, guests, etc. are not given passes, as they have a seperate enterance.
So, the overall attendance is somewhat "guesstimated" as a result.
The new wall and enterances, will have electronic counters on the turnstiles. Until that is complete, we have to accept the official website figure as been as accurate as is presently possible.

[Sam Savic]

It's part of the licencing laws that accurate figures are returned for each game.
Since Rovers period in Examinership, a new system was introduced to count the attendance. Rovers now give exact and completely accurate attendance figures and usually announce them on the night. This accurate figure includes the season ticket holders, patrons, sponsors and guest list.

[Da Real Rover]

What kind of tosser are you? All I asked was would this be putting the attendance figures out for all the other matches so as everyone thought that the stand held more people than that !!
Idiot of the highest order :rolleyes:
No i did not think the new stand held more than that and you can clarify this by looking at my previous attendance figures, in fact i thought it held 50 less. O oh another oops there Terry, let me clarify this your calling me an idiot.

[pineapple stu]

439 at UCD-Longford tonight.

[paudie]

The MC dont count attendances, i dont know why but thats the way it is

Not sure about that.

As far as I know clubs are required to send official attendances to the League by half time in each game, presumably by fax, answering machine.

[higgins]

Pete, you don't have to go too far back :)

a few pages ago you posted this,


City v Shels i'd go for 7000 as very few empty seats &plenty of people standing, shed also had more than official capacity.

then on this page you posted,


I couldn't be bother wading back through the thread but while i;m sure someone said 7000 i estimated 6200-6500 or similar myself.

Unless Im wrong you contradict yourself ? Are you still talking about the Shels game or what. I'm lost at this stage :D

I just get sick of the over estimated figures for Cork. We know you get good crowds in EL terms so whoever is on here Cork or otherwise thinking they are being smart bumping up figures be aware that it ruins the whole point of the thread.

If someone is not good at estimating figures from grounds it may be best they don't post in this thread.

[anto eile]

Yeah the official attendence was 4,152, a bloody huge crowd for dundalk!!! fair play to them...
the tv presenter said 4162

[anto eile]

Neither do I PD, but we dont know the actual attendance that's why I go by whatever goes up on the site so blame the webmaster
i find the sligo attendances to be unrealistic.
dont underestimate the chance that the sligo webmaster might be completely useless at estimating crowds

c.650 at Rovers douglas hall. appalling

[sligoman]

i find the sligo attendances to be unrealistic.
dont underestimate the chance that the sligo webmaster might be completely useless at estimating crowdsWell he is a member of this forum so why not ask him? :confused:

[pete]

Unless Im wrong you contradict yourself ? Are you still talking about the Shels game or what. I'm lost at this stage :D

Glad to see you paying attention.


Main Stand - 1850 (i'll assume that 100% full)
Derrynane - 1100 (i'd got for 900-1000 cos of empty Shels seats)
St Annes End - 3000 (i'd guess 2500)
Shed - 1500
Few hundred standing behind St Annes End & in front of the Shed.

Ok i'll revise my figures so can use as gauge going forward.

Will say 1700 from Main Stand.
900 for Derrynane fo empty Shels seats.
Official cacpacity for Shed is conservative 1500 so i'll say 1000 (unrealistic as it is)
St Annes End actually official 2800 seats so make it 2000.

1700+900+1000+2000=5600 which is till think very conservative as Shed looked good 1500.

[Da Real Rover]

i find the sligo attendances to be unrealistic.
dont underestimate the chance that the sligo webmaster might be completely useless at estimating crowds

c.650 at Rovers douglas hall. appalling
Is that a gut instinct or have you been to any of our games this season, if not why do you feel its unrealistic.