2005 Attendances

[pete]

How can there be 4500-5000 in the RSC?

From what i saw the stand holds approx 1300-1400. Was there seriously 3000+ people standing around the pitch? In places looked 6-7 deep but in other sections 2-3 deep. Anyone good with Maths?

[pineapple stu]

How can there be 4500-5000 in the RSC?

From what i saw the stand holds approx 1300-1400. Was there seriously 3000+ people standing around the pitch? In places looked 6-7 deep but in other sections 2-3 deep. Anyone good with Maths?
Stand holds 1200, I think - or thereabouts.

3/4 or an athletics track is probably 400 yards given the extra distance out it is. To fit 3000 people, you'd need to give everyone 1/8yd each, or about four inches. If you really want to get technical, you could take the average waist size as being 34 inches, which would be a width of roughly 12 inches, or three times wider than the space you have. Add in a bit of elbow room and you'd be looking at needing to have the area around the track at being consistently 4 or 5 deep. Personally, I'd be very peed off to have to watch a game from beihnd four other people.


You, Trevy and SPX must be having a love match.
Lower reasonable figure gets it - them's the rules. Prudence and all that.

[Stato]

2651 official attendance.

[Stato]

... was extremely packed in our section of the main stand, why the hell didnt we have half?! Why only a third of the stand? :mad:

Pats season ticket holders have seats spread over two-thirds of the stand so away teams can only be allocated one-third of the stand for any game.

[Stato]

Stand holds 1200, I think - or thereabouts.

3/4 or an athletics track is probably 400 yards given the extra distance out it is. To fit 3000 people, you'd need to give everyone 1/8yd each, or about four inches. If you really want to get technical, you could take the average waist size as being 34 inches, which would be a width of roughly 12 inches, or three times wider than the space you have. Add in a bit of elbow room and you'd be looking at needing to have the area around the track at being consistently 4 or 5 deep. Personally, I'd be very peed off to have to watch a game from beihnd four other people.

Seeing as we're getting all scientific....!

I was told by a Waterford official earlier in the season that the stand in the RSC has approx 900 seats. Assuming you have 400 yards of space around the track, that's 14,400 inches. Allowing that the average supporter's span from shoulder to shoulder is 21 inches that gives space for 685 supporters. For an attendance of 5,000 you're talking about 6 people deep around the whole ground. From what I saw on EL Weekly last night that wasn't the case.

[REVIP]

Various websites suggest that the RSC stand hold 1200-1300. If the crowd was 4,600 and the stand was full, then there would be 3,300 spectators to distribute around the pitch.

The RSC has an Athletics track around the pitch - which would be 400 m. If you allowed spectators 1 metre of space each, it would take 400 spectators to encircle the pitch. The circles would obviously need to get bigger as one moved outwards, but if they were of uniform size it would take eight circles of fans to generate 3,200.

[paudie]

There was maybe 200 fans on the grass bank behind the athletics track to the left of the stand.

[thomas]

1,493. Loads of cork "students" showed up.

[monutdfc]

We reckoned about 550 for Monaghan United v Sligo Rovers

[Schumi]

Pats season ticket holders have seats spread over two-thirds of the stand so away teams can only be allocated one-third of the stand for any game.That section was clearly over-sold though.

[blutil]

The stand holds 1300, according to city fans it was oversold with people having to stand. there was also at least 200 on the bank to the left of the stand plus the people around the track, dont think everyone would take up a metre by the way.

[ollie]

which would be 400 m. If you allowed spectators 1 metre of space each,

thats a lot of space.i'd say at least3 per metre of space along the barrier and it was a few people deep.

say people lined up 300 metres of the track = 900x3 = 2700

[Comic Book Guy]

Cobh v Monaghan (1st game) 240
Cobh v Monaghan (2nd game) 190
Cobh v Kilkenny (22/10) 780
Cobh v Dublin C (05/11) 800

[anto eile]

Various websites suggest that the RSC stand hold 1200-1300. If the crowd was 4,600 and the stand was full, then there would be 3,300 spectators to distribute around the pitch.

The RSC has an Athletics track around the pitch - which would be 400 m. If you allowed spectators 1 metre of space each, it would take 400 spectators to encircle the pitch. The circles would obviously need to get bigger as one moved outwards, but if they were of uniform size it would take eight circles of fans to generate 3,200.
regarding the 400 yards thing. take out about 120 yards,as the main stand is on one side of the pitch,hence no one standing at the pitch on that side of the ground.so its only 3 sides of the ground with people standing

[Battery Rover]

About 180 at Athlone vs Kilkenny

[Stato]

thats a lot of space.i'd say at least3 per metre of space along the barrier and it was a few people deep.

say people lined up 300 metres of the track = 900x3 = 2700

I'd like to see you fit three adults shoulder to shoulder in one metre of space. Perhaps if they turned sideways they might do it but they'd want to be very friendly! :D

[gufct]

Kildare -v- Galway which included the 2 mini football teams at half time.Kildare are struggling big time to get any kind of support and each time we have visited the crowd has been smaller.

[Stato]

regarding the 400 yards thing. take out about 120 yards,as the main stand is on one side of the pitch,hence no one standing at the pitch on that side of the ground.so its only 3 sides of the ground with people standing

Probably right, was thinking that the fences ran outside the running track (the outside of a running track is over 450m long) but forgot that they cut in to the pitch so in fact there's probably only 300m of space around the pitch. Going on my original calculations you're talking 7 deep all the way round for a crowd of 5,000, allowing for 1,200 in the stand.

[pete]

Probably right, was thinking that the fences ran outside the running track (the outside of a running track is over 450m long) but forgot that they cut in to the pitch so in fact there's probably only 300m of space around the pitch. Going on my original calculations you're talking 7 deep all the way round for a crowd of 5,000, allowing for 1,200 in the stand.

I am sad & did wrong count of how many seats in 1 section of the stand at the RSC = 300 & there are 4 of those sections which makes 1200 + probably 100 over the tunnel & say another 100-150 oversold, so makes 1450 approx.
I would say around the pitch was 4-5 deep behind both goals & maybe 2 deep oppose the stand. I'd guiess looking at 3500 max.

[blutil]

I am sad & did wrong count of how many seats in 1 section of the stand at the RSC = 300 & there are 4 of those sections which makes 1200 + probably 100 over the tunnel & say another 100-150 oversold, so makes 1450 approx.
I would say around the pitch was 4-5 deep behind both goals & maybe 2 deep oppose the stand. I'd guiess looking at 3500 max.

this must be the longest debate for a crowd ever. dont forget about the few hundred on the bank to the left of the stand, and the lads in the dugout, not to mention the players and referee's assitants and the fourth official and the dog that somehow got in.:eek:

[pete]

this must be the longest debate for a crowd ever. dont forget about the few hundred on the bank to the left of the stand, and the lads in the dugout, not to mention the players and referee's assitants and the fourth official and the dog that somehow got in.:eek:

This is a Maths debate! :D

[pineapple stu]

regarding the 400 yards thing. take out about 120 yards,as the main stand is on one side of the pitch,hence no one standing at the pitch on that side of the ground.so its only 3 sides of the ground with people standing
True, but don't forget that an athletics track is 440 yards long, BUT you're standing a good 10/15 yards beyond it (I think - isn't there a grass verge between the track and the fencing?), so while you lose the main stand section, you gain extra circumference because you're describing a bigger arc.

I love the way everyone else just posted my calculations over and over again!:)

[trevy]

Lads ye are gone very nerdy there :D There was a crowd of at least 4500 there,end of.Every media source I've seen has quoted 4500 to 5000 and thats what I'd have said myself.

[Jerry The Saint]

Lads ye are gone very nerdy there :D There was a crowd of at least 4500 there,end of.Every media source I've seen has quoted 4500 to 5000 and thats what I'd have said myself.

Science be damned! If it's written down it must be true! This is starting to turn into the Evolution/Intelligent Design debate... :D

[pete]

Lads ye are gone very nerdy there :D There was a crowd of at least 4500 there,end of.Every media source I've seen has quoted 4500 to 5000 and thats what I'd have said myself.

The media just guess attendances. The FAI are even worse as quote these on their websites.

[pineapple stu]

The FAI are even worse as quote these on their websites.
All match reports on the FAI website are submitted by the SWAI. The FAI just bang them up without even reading them. Then ironically, they (well, the eL - but it's the same thing) tell clubs they are 100% responsible for material on their club websites.

[Sam Savic]

Why doesn't someone just ring the Waterford secretary and ask him how many were at the match? Simple.
Or is it that they do not know, as they are required to under licencing.

[anto eile]

Why doesn't someone just ring the Waterford secretary and ask him how many were at the match? Simple.
Or is it that they do not know, as they are required to under licencing.
and if they dont know then they will have broke the licensing regulations and will be deducted points?saving us from possible relegation!
brilliant thinking sam savic!

[thomas]

and if they dont know then they will have broke the licensing regulations and will be deducted points?saving us from possible relegation!
brilliant thinking sam savic!

1,713 tonight, 341 from waterford.

Because of season tickets the increase in gate money was 70% even though its only a 55% increase on the average attendance.

NB, doesnt include the guests from the away team, players guests and club guests, approx 30 more.

[junkie]

Reckon 3,600-3,800 at Shels/Cork

[pineapple stu]

Average crowd season 2005 is 1530 (to date, League only).

Season 2004 was 1349 (league only).


it's only a 55% increase on the average attendance.
That's only a 15% increase, not a 55% increase? (Rovers' average now 1539)

[Rebal Boy]

Reckon 3,600-3,800 at Shels/Cork

Thats nearly about right. We had around atleast 1200-1500 there.

[The Stars]

5000 at Champions vs Athlone tonight,although that is from the website.
Seemed to be 4000 at most.

[Da Real Rover]

5000 at Champions vs Athlone tonight,although that is from the website.
Seemed to be 4000 at most.
Dont remember it ever being as full as it was tonight, it was packed. The showgies was Buzzin.

[pineapple stu]

No more than 400 at Longford-UCD. About 60 outside the main stand, first block in the stand had another 60-ish and the other three blocks were a quarter full at best (which I think is about 400 * 3 / 4 = 300).

[sligoman]

Seemed to be 4000 at most.5,000 is what I heard most people say, I tend to agree.

[Battery Rover]

5,000 is what I heard most people say, I tend to agree.

Well you know what each section holds so work it out from that. Two stands full, the shed end terrace and the shed looked pretty full, the other end for the second half had 7 of us from Athlone and about 50 Sligo supporters.

[Terry]

I would guess 750-800 at GUFC v Limerick

[Patrick Dunne]

.. I was given was 550, which sounds surprisingly low. Would have agreed with your estimate Terry. The fact that it was raining would have brought everyone into the stand, perhaps this explains our overestimates of the attendance.

[brendy_éire]

I'd have a stab at 3,800 at Derry-Pats.
Could be more.

[pete]

PREMIER
Bohs 1992 (2340)
Bray 1563 (818)
Cork 3332 (4033)
Derry 2624 (1672)
Drogheda 1668 (1554)
Harps 1469 (1106) (missing Shels and Rovers)
Longford 1084 (1131) (missing Shels and Waterford)
Pat's 1574 (1882)
Rovers 1530 (1349) (adjusted to Thomas' seemingly official figures)
Shels 1845 (2158)
UCD 653 (306)
Waterford 1314 (1753)

FIRST
Athlone 331 (291) (missing Cobh 2 and Galway 2)
Cobh 366 (240) (missing Kilkenny 2 and Monaghan 2)
Dublin City 172 (592) (missing Kildare 2 and Kilkenny 2)
Dundalk 474 (591) (missing Galway 2 and Kildare 2)
Galway 567 (571)
Kildare 229 (298) (missing Cobh (2), Dundalk (both), Kilkenny, Monaghan 2 and Sligo 2)
Kilkenny 173 (110) (missing Athlone (both), Cobh (2), Dublin City (2), Dundalk (both), Galway (2) and Kildare)
Limerick 715 (188)
Monaghan 161 (182) (missing Athlone 2, Cobh (both), Dublin City (2), Kildare (both) and Kilkenny (2))
Sligo 1691 (781)

Premier Division - 1739 (1863)
First Division - 551 (512)
Overall average - 1220 (1224)

Recent matches missing -
Dundalk v. Galway
Kilkenny v. Galway

Any updates on this? With our last 4 games been away has probably boosted Bohs, Waterford & Shels averages.

[pineapple stu]

Will post an update in the next day or two just to give time for the weekend's figures to come in.

[pineapple stu]

Update after the weekend. Last season in brackets. (2) indicates a match in the second round of games.


PREMIER
Bohs 1941 (2340)
Bray 1541 (818) (missing Bohs)
Cork 3332 (4033)
Derry 2698 (1672)
Drogheda 1668 (1554) (missing Bohs 2, Harps 2 and Shels 2)
Harps 1414 (1106) (missing Shels and Rovers 2)
Longford 1038 (1131) (missing Shels 2 and Waterford 2)
Pat's 1645 (1882)
Rovers 1539 (1349) (adjusted to Thomas' seemingly official figures)
Shels 1949 (2158)
UCD 653 (306)
Waterford 1527 (1753)

FIRST
Athlone 321 (291) (missing Cobh 2 and Galway 2)
Cobh 403 (240)
Dublin City 172 (592) (missing Kildare 2, Kilkenny 2 and Monaghan 2)
Dundalk 474 (591) (missing Cobh 2, Galway 2 and Kildare 2)
Galway 566 (571)
Kildare 217 (298) (missing Cobh (2), Dundalk (both), Kilkenny (both), Monaghan 2 and Sligo 2)
Kilkenny 173 (110) (missing Athlone (both), Cobh (2), Dublin City (2), Dundalk (both), Galway (2) and Kildare)
Limerick 715 (188) (missing Dundalk 2)
Monaghan 200 (182) (missing Athlone 2, Cobh (both), Dublin City (2), Kildare (both) and Kilkenny (2))
Sligo 1819 (781)

Premier Division - 1752 (1853)
First Division - 567 (512)
Overall average - 1232 (1218)

Recent matches missing -
Bray v. Bohs
Drogheda v. Bohs
Drogheda v. Harps
Dublin City v. Monaghan
Kildare v. Kilkenny
Limerick v. Dundalk

[sligoman]

What attendance did you put in for the Rovers/Athlone game?:confused:

[pineapple stu]

Put in 4000 to be conservative. I think a couple of people made the point during the season that the website attendances were a bit on the high side, so this'll balance that out as well hopefully. Saw it there on eL Weekly though - looked very much like the Harps-Dundalk game this time last season. And now look at them!

[sligoman]

Put in 4000 to be conservative. I think a couple of people made the point during the season that the website attendances were a bit on the high side, so this'll balance that out as well hopefully. Saw it there on eL Weekly though - looked very much like the Harps-Dundalk game this time last season. And now look at them!EL Weekly said over 5,000 people so it cant be just the website that's over estimating though;)

[pineapple stu]

eL Weekly and the FAI website both probably got it off the same source though! Which is to say, a complete stab in the dark. I rarely pay any heed to those kind of attendances unless they are obviously official (i.e. don't end in two zeros).

[sligoman]

eL Weekly and the FAI website both probably got it off the same source though! Which is to say, a complete stab in the dark. I rarely pay any heed to those kind of attendances unless they are obviously official (i.e. don't end in two zeros).Maybe, just this once, it happened to be exactly 5,000 though?:confused: :D

[sligoman]

Just wondering, what EL clubs, if any, actually release their official attendances every week? :confused:

[Conor H]

Just wondering, what EL clubs, if any, actually release their official attendances every week? :confused:
Galway utd.