View Full Version : Andy Reid(b 1982)
drinkfeckarse
03/08/2006, 1:58 PM
I don't know if I'd go as far to say it's a make or break season for Reid but it's definately a big one ahead wherever he plays. As Eirebhoy says, he's no teenage winger now and he has to start stamping his undoubted talent on games.
It's been the subject of a lot of debate but I am now fairly sure his weight is an issue. I'm not saying he's down in his local McDonalds every night but he is bigger than what he was at Forest and considering his training will be very efficient then his diet is something he must look at. Yes maybe he is naturally "stocky" but even if he is, it appears to be impeding his game and progress so he should look at ways of knocking and keeping a few pounds off.
I'd rather see him staying in the Premiership than dropping down a division again but we'll see. You can only go if there are offers. Always thought West Ham would be a great club for him and he wouldn't have much bother displacing Etheringham.
RogerMilla
03/08/2006, 2:01 PM
i deffo thought him overweight in the chile game , great raw talent , hopefully leeds turns out to be a good move for him
NeilMcD
03/08/2006, 2:03 PM
Etherington is a better option the way West Ham play than Andy Reid is. He is a face pacey winger who gets the byline often and delivers good crosses, I often thing spurs should not have let him go. The way West Ham play with Benayoun cutting insdie on the right hand side its important that they can stretch defences out the wings on the left. Etherington does this time and time again. Andy reid would be too similar to Benayoun in that respect in that he would hold onto the ball and slow the play down as he does not have the pace to get past players the same way as Etherington does.
Spurs paid 5 million for Reid and 3 Million for Dawson. To get 2 Million back is not bad considering they got Dawson for a bargain in my view.
drummerboy
03/08/2006, 3:02 PM
Nothing official yet.
drummerboy
03/08/2006, 3:28 PM
inside information.
Stuttgart88
04/08/2006, 7:13 AM
BBC's daily "Gossip Column" cites the Daily Express as saying it'll be a £2m deal.
drummerboy
04/08/2006, 8:07 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/5244342.stm
You heard it on foot.ie first
DubinLondon
04/08/2006, 12:09 PM
First Time poster but have been viewing for a while.
As to Reid to Leeds would love to see him there as he needs to reestablish himself in a decent side. However I think many of us have looked at him with rose tinted glasses as I'm not sure he is that good.
I spoke to him earlier this year in a Pub in central London and I asked him why he didn't go to leeds last January (leeds tried to take him on loan) and he said he didn't want to play championship football. As no other Premiership club has come in for him Leeds maybe his last chance to make it.
Red&White Rover
04/08/2006, 12:16 PM
Any Amount of Links here. (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/newsfeed/?name=Leeds+United)
He will be a good signing for us, but he needs to buckle down, and get his head right. More than likely he will playing Right wing, with, Derry and Westlake in the center and Lewis on the wing. Thats of course if Blackwell, dosent resort to the stupid 4-3-3 like last season, in which he'll find himself playing in the corner.
Red&White Rover
04/08/2006, 12:17 PM
I spoke to him earlier this year in a Pub.
now we know the secret of his extra weight!:D
Stuttgart88
04/08/2006, 12:24 PM
Welcome on board.
The guy was outstanding for Forest before he was sold and did well in his first 8 games or so for Spurs, scoring only once but frequently going close. He's been unlucky with injury since & although I think he's been decent, but far from great, in green I think a lack of games at club level has badly affected his international form. It felt like every time we had a big game coming up both he & Robbie were out of the team at Spurs.
I think his chance to make his name at Spurs has probably gone though.
It'll be interesting to see how well he'd do if he plays regularly, stays fit and applies himself. I think he's good enough for the Premiership but he needs to prove it.
joema
04/08/2006, 12:51 PM
I think hes well good enough for the Premiership but Leeds will probobly be a good move for him at the moment. Agree that he should be now looked at as a CM - IMO he is the most creative player we have and is wasted on the wings. Bit surprised Harry Redknap hasnt snapped him up
hoops1
04/08/2006, 1:06 PM
Andy Reid Centre Mid:rolleyes:
Stuttgart88
04/08/2006, 1:11 PM
Bit surprised Harry Redknap hasnt snapped him upReid probably hasn't got a crooked agent.
BaZmO*
04/08/2006, 1:50 PM
Yes maybe he is naturally "stocky" but even if he is, it appears to be impeding his game and progress so he should look at ways of knocking and keeping a few pounds off.
I used to think that maybe he got too much stick for being overweight and that maybe he was just stocky like Richard Dunne but if you ever see footage of when the U16's won the European Cup you'll see that he is not naturally stocky. Since then he has seemed to put on an awful lot of weight which can't be a good thing. Hopefully he'll come good again though.
Stuttgart88
04/08/2006, 2:49 PM
I used to think that maybe he got too much stick for being overweight and that maybe he was just stocky like Richard Dunne but if you ever see footage of when the U16's won the European Cup you'll see that he is not naturally stocky. Since then he has seemed to put on an awful lot of weight which can't be a good thing. Hopefully he'll come good again though.He was actually so skinny back then that I reckoned he'd probably not make it. My suspicion is that he has bulked up in the gym over the years to compensate for this. Aiden McGeady was put on a fairly comprehensive weights programme by Celtic to build himself up too. I'm not being naive: Reid's general fitness is obviously a concerrn but I can't help but think a lot of his size is explainable. It simply defies belief that a modern-day Premiership player could have diet or weight problems and not lose his job.
DeNiro
04/08/2006, 3:03 PM
Yeh, I saw Reid at U21 level a lot and he just ballooned in size. I reckon it's from weights he had to do to build himself up. He's deceptively quick when he wants to be!
Stuttgart88
04/08/2006, 3:17 PM
You should know about it DeNiro. Didn't you do the same preparing for Raging Bull & Cape Fear?
BaZmO*
04/08/2006, 3:28 PM
He was actually so skinny back then that I reckoned he'd probably not make it. My suspicion is that he has bulked up in the gym over the years to compensate for this. Aiden McGeady was put on a fairly comprehensive weights programme by Celtic to build himself up too. I'm not being naive: Reid's general fitness is obviously a concerrn but I can't help but think a lot of his size is explainable. It simply defies belief that a modern-day Premiership player could have diet or weight problems and not lose his job.
Young players nowadays come under a lot of pressure to bulk up when they are starting out on their footballing careers.
I was in the Gym last summer and there was this kid there with his mate, think he was about 14/15, and he was asking for advice on lifting weights as he wanted to bulk up. I asked him why was he so keen on bulking being that he was so young and he said that he was heading over to England as he had been signed by Crystal Palace and he had been advised to bulk up by doing weights. He wasn't that particulary small, maybe just a bit skinny but most kids at that age are.
He was actually so skinny back then that I reckoned he'd probably not make it. My suspicion is that he has bulked up in the gym over the years to compensate for this. Aiden McGeady was put on a fairly comprehensive weights programme by Celtic to build himself up too. I'm not being naive: Reid's general fitness is obviously a concerrn but I can't help but think a lot of his size is explainable. It simply defies belief that a modern-day Premiership player could have diet or weight problems and not lose his job.
Ginola was slagged off in the press as being overweight, he took his shirt off after scoring in a goal and put that notion to rest..chiseled..what am I saying?...I fancy Ginola...NO, fcek off! Just saying that most Premiership players are in good shape and talk about whoever being "fat" is usually more off the pace than the "podgy" player.
Other players have said they've bumped into Reid in games or training and he's solid...other players said to be fat...Dunne, Rooney etc. but reports of their obesity are much inflated.
Anyway!....great to see Reid going to Leeds, hopefully, good for him and good for Leeds. Blackwell is a sound enough manager, no frills, straightforward football based around solid players and no prima donnas.
FarBeag
16/08/2006, 10:26 AM
Just heard on Sky Sports news that he is in talks with Man City but the 3m price tag appears to be on the high side. I think it would be an excellent move if it happens.
BaZmO*
16/08/2006, 10:34 AM
Just heard on Sky Sports news that he is in talks with Man City but the 3m price tag appears to be on the high side. I think it would be an excellent move if it happens.
Well here's hoping that if he does sign he doesn't go out for a meal to celebrate!
NeilMcD
16/08/2006, 10:53 AM
Young players nowadays come under a lot of pressure to bulk up when they are starting out on their footballing careers.
I was in the Gym last summer and there was this kid there with his mate, think he was about 14/15, and he was asking for advice on lifting weights as he wanted to bulk up. I asked him why was he so keen on bulking being that he was so young and he said that he was heading over to England as he had been signed by Crystal Palace and he had been advised to bulk up by doing weights. He wasn't that particulary small, maybe just a bit skinny but most kids at that age are.
Was that in the ESB gym by any chance.
tetsujin1979
16/08/2006, 10:55 AM
He would be first choice at Man City, there's no other naturally left sided players at Eastlands. Sibierski filled in there on occasion last season, but he's preferred position is up front. There was rumours floating around on some message boards over the last 2 weeks or so, but they were more of the "who can we bring in to play left wing" variety, with the cash from selling Distin to Boro, it looks likely that Reid may well move to Eastlands.
BaZmO*
16/08/2006, 11:10 AM
Was that in the ESB gym by any chance.
No. It was Jackie Skelly's Parkwest.
NeilMcD
16/08/2006, 11:20 AM
Cause I heard a very similar converstation there too with a League of Ireland player chatting to 2 young guys about the same stuff. Are you a League of Ireland player Bazmo
Billsthoughts
16/08/2006, 11:55 AM
does it not effect them in later life? when they push themselves too much when their body is only still developing. (like gary kelly at leeds) Reid does look a bit overweight alrite. pity as he has always looked like a player who could genuinely unlock teams. he was class agaisnt Israel at home in the first 20 mins. I know games are played over 90 but the basic talent seems to be there. would it not make sense for the FAI not take a more proactive approach in advising players on their careers? talk to michael kennedy about taking a role?
BaZmO*
16/08/2006, 12:49 PM
Cause I heard a very similar converstation there too with a League of Ireland player chatting to 2 young guys about the same stuff. Are you a League of Ireland player Bazmo
:D :D :D Jaysus!!! Hell no!! I go to the gym quite alot but I'd never make it as a footballer, plus I'm too old for it at this stage.
does it not effect them in later life? when they push themselves too much when their body is only still developing.
Yes and No (http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/hc/chi/teen/alert03212000.jsp) Depends on a lot of different factors.
would it not make sense for the FAI not take a more proactive approach in advising players on their careers? talk to michael kennedy about taking a role?
It's not really up to the FAI to look after players with regards to nutrition and general lifstyle matters. It's up to the clubs that they are "owned" by to do that. (Maybe "owned" is the wrong word, "contracted to" is probably a better description). The FAI merely borrow the players from the respective clubs. It's the clubs that pay their wages after all.
Billsthoughts
16/08/2006, 12:59 PM
I know that. what I meant was to advise on a good career move.....that would be interests of player and country....although that probably sounds just as dumb reading it.....
cavan_fan
16/08/2006, 4:52 PM
He's just signed a 4 year deal at Charlton. Bit of a step down but at least Premiership
Just heard it on TV3 News. At least hell get first team football although Charlton is a club going nowhere
gustavo
16/08/2006, 5:03 PM
Link
http://www.cafc.co.uk/newsview.ink?nid=29472
Better move than Sunderland and Leeds.
Premiership football and hopefully first team football
Over the post
16/08/2006, 5:24 PM
It's a good move for him.
Does he look to have lost weight in the photo on the Charlton site or have they given him a shirt that's a couple of sizes too big to make it look that way :D
Qwerty
16/08/2006, 6:32 PM
Just heard it on TV3 News. At least hell get first team football although Charlton is a club going nowhere
Charlton is a progressive club and I think Dowie is a good coach who will get the best out of Reid.
Fergie's Son
16/08/2006, 8:29 PM
Where wil he play at Charlton? On the wing or in the middle?
monutdfc
16/08/2006, 10:57 PM
I think Dowie is a good coach who will get the best out of Reid.
Agree.
Plus Dowie is big on fitness, which can only be good for Reid.
drinkfeckarse
17/08/2006, 7:57 AM
Where wil he play at Charlton? On the wing or in the middle?
I'd be inclined to think it'll be more in the middle which is a good thing IMO. Jerome Thomas and Rommedahl will probably be the 2 wide players although the latter didn't have a great season last year.
youngirish
17/08/2006, 9:29 AM
Great move for him. If he has a few bad games at Charlton he'll still get his game due to their smaller squad. Should do his confidence a world of good. Hopefully he does well. We need him after last night's performace.
RogerMilla
17/08/2006, 10:12 AM
we need a fit andy reid , best of luck to him!
shakermaker1982
17/08/2006, 1:12 PM
I'm a big fan of Reidy, he was outstanding for Forest and I'm confident he can make an impact in the PL.
eirebhoy
17/08/2006, 1:38 PM
Great move for him. Hopefully Dowie see's him as a central midfielder as we're fine for left wingers atm.
Fergie's Son
26/08/2006, 7:33 PM
Looks like Andy Reid got off to a good start for Charlton against Bolton. Anyone see the match? The match reports have him playing well.
Could this be a new beginning?
Looks like Andy Reid got off to a good start for Charlton against Bolton. Anyone see the match? The match reports have him playing well.
Could this be a new beginning?
me!!
Ive got a season ticket at charlton, was really pleased when they signed him curbishley was looking at him before tottenham signed him and i was gutted when we missed out.
Dowie said today in his program notes that reid was top of his list of transfer targets, he played really well today dispite being about a week from full fitness.
He set up one of bent's goals and his passing and distribution were spot on, only down side was that as he's still fitting in he had difficulty getting the ball off the others even though he was in some good positions.
He took most of the corners and a couple of free kicks, and even argued with hasslebank for one of them (didnt win on this occasion). Unfortunately he didnt finish the game and came off with a calf strain i think, but he got a standing ovation as he came off and supprised quite a few people.
Think he's a great signing for charlton and cant wait to see him once he's settled in more.
Stuttgart88
26/08/2006, 8:12 PM
Whatever about him starting, if he's fit it simply defies belief that he's not in our 23 man squad for Stuttgart.
eirebhoy
26/08/2006, 8:28 PM
Unfortunately he didnt finish the game and came off with a calf strain i think, but he got a standing ovation as he came off and supprised quite a few people.
I wouldn't say "unfortunately". It's a very good sign if a manager takes you off on your fulldebut with a couple of minutes left. Managers will do it if the player played well to let the crowd show how much they appreciate him. Strachan does it all the time (Nakamura, Miller). A lot of Celtic fans were shocked when they seen no changes to the team at half time but 3 minutes into the half he brough Hesselink on for his debut and he got a huge roar. It can only help the players.
Where did he play btw? I assume left wing?
Where did he play btw? I assume left wing?
Yeah he played on the left, though he did play inside for a while before he came off too
brine3
26/08/2006, 8:50 PM
dispite being about a week from full fitness.
that's an improvement!
(sorry, i had to say it)
gustavo
26/08/2006, 8:54 PM
Still though he isnt as good as Newcastles 3rd choice left winger according to Stan!
that's an improvement!
(sorry, i had to say it)
Someone i sit with said that! pies were mentioned too at some point :D
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