Andy Reid(b 1982)

[dr_peepee]

Eirebhoy often made the Pirlo comparison a few years back!

[BonnieShels]

He is the heartbeat of that Forest side. Well, he was last season. Their fortunes coincided with his. Seeing him pull the strings last December was a joy.

[Stuttgart88]

Did Reid figure in one of MON's early games? I have a vague recollection of him playing some part late on against Latvia.

I'd love to see him being instrumental in this campaign.

[Charlie Darwin]

He played the second half against Latvia and was presumably going to start the Poland game before injuring himself. I don't think he's been fit for a squad since.

[tricky_colour]

He is the heartbeat of that Forest side. Well, he was last season. Their fortunes coincided with his. Seeing him pull the strings last December was a joy.

Interesting, sounds a bit like John Robertson, also a left winger with a bit of a weight problem, an inch and a half taller than Reid's 5'7", back in Brian Clough's days the saying was "Stop Robbo and you stop Forest", although that was easier said than done.
Robertson also spent 6 year playing in the old division one, before winning two European Cups!! (Martin O Neil spent 5 years there before Forest won promotion)

Also note the comparison to gifted Italians, in Clough's humorously 'unflattering' description of Robretson here which matches the comparison of Reid to Pirlo in the article!!


Brian Clough, Robertson's manager at Nottingham Forest, was quoted as saying "John Robertson was a very unattractive young man. If one day, I felt a bit off colour, I would sit next to him. I was bloody Errol Flynn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Errol_Flynn) in comparison. But give him a ball and a yard of grass, and he was an artist, the Picasso (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasso) of our game."[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Robertson_%28footballer,_born_1953%29#cite_no te-1) In his autobiography Clough noted that "Rarely could there have been a more unlikely looking professional athlete... [He was a] scruffy, unfit, uninterested waste of time...but something told me he was worth persevering with." but that "[He] became one of the finest deliverers of a football I have ever seen – in Britain or anywhere else in the world – as fine as the Brazilians or the supremely gifted Italians."

Also worth noting that Pirlo was born 11 days before Forest won their first European Cup, in which John Roberton played (Martin O Neil was on the bench)

Robertson score in the same cup final the next year.

Note that Reid has the same 'stocky' build at 0.26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiWFMAf2rH0

Also note Martin O Neil the no 7 at 0.16!!

Note all English Scottish or NI players, not the multi-national sides we see there days.

[tricky_colour]

Going further off topic, another vidoe here


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-nQT1Z4FB4

Interesting to see how thing have changed, the state of the pitch, the ground, the dug outs, the crowds, the lack of replica shirts etc..

It all seems so different these days, immaculate grounds, all seated, polite applause etc...

[DeLorean]

Great post Tricky.

[Irish_Praha]

Funny, the roof (of Tunnel?) with the piece broken off of it at about 2:13.

[tricky_colour]

The corrugated plastic? I think Cloughie banged his big head on it!!!

[OwlsFan]

I was disappointed in his performance against Wednesday today but he may have been carrying an injury as I read elsewhere he's withdrawn from our squad.

[geysir]

Another injury setback for Andy.

Andy Reid (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30897828): Nottingham Forest midfielder needs surgery

"needs an operation on his groin injury and may not return until March."

[tricky_colour]

That's Forest relegated!!

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

How important Reid is to Nottingham Forest:

http://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/inforgraphic-nottingham-forest-stats-show-just-how-bloody-important-andy-reid-is-to-them/11154

An interesting insight as to the the personal conflict surrounding how best to deal with a troublesome injury. Does he risk coming back and risking a reoccurance after one or two games or does he take the surgery route? Reid finally elected to have a surgery. Hopefully he will finally be fit and healthy in March and Nottingham Forest will still be in the promotion shake up.

http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-Forest-delighted-Andy-Reid-s-progress/story-25953204-detail/story.html

http://www.nottinghampost.com/Andy-Reid-column-8217-m-aiming-Nottingham-Forest/story-25950030-detail/story.html

[DeLorean]

Still in the promotion shake up? They'll be doing well to stay clear of the bottom three with the form they're in!

[tricky_colour]

Stuart Pearce sacked at Forest, I think it would be fair to say Andy Reid's injury cost him his job,
Forest are pretty useless without him.

Mind yuo Pearce has hardly worked miracle in his absence, they could hardly be doing any worse.

[geysir]

Transfer embargo and severe loan restrictions have scuttled Forest who were in good shape before the 3 main injuries. Hard to tell in those circumstances how Pearce did. We can see how the next guy does under similar circumstances.

[DeLorean]

The next guy is Dougie Freedman.

[Irish_Praha]

The next guy is Dougie Freedman.

Really?...... sh!t :(

[geysir]

Forest are riding the crest of a wave.
Whoever doubted Dougie's credentials for this job or had any doubt that Pearce was anything other than useless?:)

[DeLorean]

They were also riding the crest of a wave at this stage of Pearce's tenure.

[CraftyToePoke]

As were Bolton fans in Dougies early days there.

[tetsujin1979]

And Palace, for a spell, under Freeman

[tricky_colour]

Wonder how long forests good run will last? It looked great under Pearce initially but it was not
too long before the wheels fell off the wagon.

I think Freedman may be a better manager tactically than Pearce was, that seems to be the consesus,
however it is still early days.

Forest still have feint promotion hopes.

[DeLorean]

A blip or history repeating itself? Here's a comparison of Freedman's first seven games compared to Pearce:

PLD 7 W 5 D 2 L 0 F 17 A 07 GD +10 PTS 17 (PEARCE)
PLD 7 W 5 D 1 L 1 F 20 A 10 GD +10 PTS 16 (FREEDMAN)

Would have been practically identical if Forest had drawn last night. Here's Tony Watt making sure they didn't!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf9aqY629JY

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Nottingham Forest's 35th best player of all time.

35. Andy Reid

When he first made the breakthrough into the first team, at the age of just 18, some compared him to John Robertson.

Andy Reid has not gone on to have quite the same kind of impact as the legendary European Cup winning winger (who has?) but he has done enough to earn his own place in Nottingham Forest folklore.

The teenager's trickery, comfort on the ball and eye for a pass immediately marked him out as a young man with potential.

And there were undoubted similarities with Robertson, both physical and in terms of his poise in possession.

Some would argue that Reid has never quite reached the heights his natural ability might have taken him to.

But, in two spells with the Reds, he has demonstrated his quality on a consistent basis, while twice becoming a truly vital cog in the Forest machine.

Reid's first team opportunities became more frequent once Paul Hart – previously his mentor within the youth ranks – had taken over from David Platt.

And Reid (http://www.nottinghampost.com/andy-reid) became a key figure in the push for the play-offs, under Hart, whether he was playing out on the left or handed a play-maker role in the centre of the pitch.

Having established himself as a regular for Ireland, it was no surprise when a club in the top tier came calling and, in January 2005, Reid moved to Spurs in a joint £8m deal with Michael Dawson.

Reid never properly established himself as a first team regular at White Hart Lane, partly due to a knee ligament injury that hampered his progress. He did make more of an impact at firstly Charlton and then Sunderland, before a short ill-fated move to Blackpool.

A return to Forest was perfect for Reid and perfect for the club; with his homecoming an inspiration for both parties.

Maturer and perhaps wiser, Reid had been in the shape of his career and he once more become an integral figure within the team; a leader and an inspiration – prior to yet more injury misfortune.

A groin problem basically wrote him off last season and fans will hope that there is another chapter still to come in his Forest story, under Dougie Freedman (http://www.nottinghampost.com/dougie-freedman).

Read more: http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-Forest-50-players-time-Number-35-31/story-26626472-detail/story.html#ixzz3c08Mot00

[OwlsFan]

Where does one Mr. R. Keane come ? Not much of a kudo for Andy if Peter Grummit can finish ahead of him. Owls goalkeeper when they were relegated back in the 1970s I think.

[tricky_colour]

Wow that goes back a long way!!

Tinsley Lindley "His England call-up came on 13 March 1886...."

Seems they are doing 5 a day or something like that, dunno who will be number 1, certainly not Roy Keane, might be Trevor Francis,
but then who know what wizard was playing for Forest in the 17th Century!!

He only played for Forest for a couple of years though, they would probably go for someone longer serving.

[OwlsFan]

My bet for No. 1 would be Miah Dennehy but if not Stuart Pearce followed by Francis or any one of the European Cup winning team (e.g. Robertson, Shilton, Viv Anderson) not to mention Des Walker or Gemmill. I'd say Keane will be 9 or 10 ish.

[DeLorean]

Obviously a lot if the European Cup winning teams will occupy the top 20. They really should have just done a top 40, they're kind of drawing attention to their mediocrity when they have to scrape Jermain Jenas off the bottom of the barrel! Pearce, Walker, Keane and Collymore all candidates for top 20 as well, in fact Pearce will probably make top 2 or 3. Ian Woan, Steve Stone and even Pierre Van Hooijdonk were decent performers during the 90's, in the context of some who have already made the list. A guess at the top five, in no particular order, would be Shilton, Robertson, Pearce, Francis and Gemmill, but I could be forgetting somebody really obvious.

[Eminence Grise]

Nigel Clough, Peter Davenport, maybe even Neil Webb could all push Tommy Gaynor off the list. There's gratitude for you.

[tetsujin1979]

Still no date for Reid's return: http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-Forest-duo-set-September-return-Andy/story-26911673-detail/story.html

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't play again.

[GypsyBlackCat]

I kind of feel sorry for Andy Reid. I can't think of an Irish player with as much skill and talent as Reid. I remember when he came to Sunderland first and was brilliant. He seemed to be at his peak and looked like he was going to become the player we all thought of he would be.

But injuries and he weight issues have plagued him. He definitely had magic in those feet!

[geysir]

I kind of feel sorry for Andy Reid. I can't think of an Irish player with as much skill and talent as Reid. I remember when he came to Sunderland first and was brilliant. He seemed to be at his peak and looked like he was going to become the player we all thought of he would be.

But injuries and he weight issues have plagued him. He definitely had magic in those feet!
Midfielders? Duff, Keane, Liam Brady, Giles, Whelan, Sheedy, Sheridan, Houghton, McCarthy, Hoolahan, Gibson, Daly.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

"Wonderful" Andy Reid back in training and could be available within 3 weeks.

http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2015/08/05/14177552/wonderful-andy-reid-to-be-ready-in-weeks-says-freedman

[tetsujin1979]

it's 12 months since Reid's last appearance for Forest, and the latest news on Andy is that he's not expected back until Christmas: http://www.herald.ie/sport/forest-set-christmas-target-for-return-of-midfielder-andy-reid-31546945.html

[tricky_colour]

Not looking good for him being out for so long, but lets hope he is back soon.


"His situation is a more difficult one to call. It could be November or Christmas. We have to see how he gets on."

The November sound more optimistic but we will have to wait and see, might be the kind of injury that
drags on forever. I hope not.

[geysir]

I thnk the current management are possibly more aware of the existance of Ian Harte than the beleagured Andy Reid.

[SkStu]

He's not injured, he's just focussing on the band.

[Charlie Darwin]

Is it possible our recent downturn in form has been caused by a musical deficit in the squad?

[tricky_colour]

Be surprise if he gets back in the Forest squad never mind the Irish one at this stage.
But you never know Forest used to win when he play.

That is play on the pitch, not when he played his guitar!!!

But maybe that might work if he plays his guitar as Ireland play?

[Fixer82]

Hard to believe that the match against Kazahkstan will probably be his last appearance in green. It all looked so promising for him to get back to where he belongs.

Damn you Trap!!! *shakes fist at sky

[Charlie Darwin]

Think his last game was Latvia?

[DeLorean]

Midfielders? Duff, Keane, Liam Brady, Giles, Whelan, Sheedy, Sheridan, Houghton, McCarthy, Hoolahan, Gibson, Daly.

Why did you feel the need to specify the Brady but not the Whelan? :o

[DeLorean]

What has actually happened since Freedman's comments in early August? Has there been a setback or is his training not as amazing as he thinks it is?


I reckon two weeks of my training should be enough to get him ready to play in a few under-21 games. Two weeks should get him ready for that.

[Fixer82]

Think his last game was Latvia?

Yeah that would make sense, it being MONKeano's first friendly

[geysir]

Why did you feel the need to specify the Brady but not the Whelan? :o
I can't remember the why but you can rest assured that the why made good sense at the time.

[shakermaker1982]

Plenty of rumours about Reidy around the town since he got 'injured'. Could be a load of ********, wouldn't be the first time when it comes to Forest players.

[tricky_colour]

Plenty of rumours about Reidy around the town since he got 'injured'. Could be a load of ********, wouldn't be the first time when it comes to Forest players.

He was always keen on the booze in the past, but I though maybe he had knuckled down on that, however when you
are injured you have more time on your hands for boozing.

However it may just be rumour I can't see anything much on the web about stuff like that.

[tetsujin1979]

Set for another operation in the new year: http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-Forest-ace-Andy-Reid-reveals-set-groin/story-28402399-detail/story.html
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