Andy Reid(b 1982)

[Closed Account]

Wonderful ball from Reidy, weighted to perfection.
How's your french
http://videos.sapo.pt/BQrvGkDFgjqFnLcNc5VH

[SkStu]

watched the entire game, great vision from Reid for the goal and he put in some absolutely quality crosses. To be fair, there are far worse players playing for Sunderland in terms of attacking and defending. Whitehead was abysmal, Malbranque inneffective.

Reid did run out of steam though, was slow tracking back in the
2nd half and was substituted on 77mins i think.

[centre mid]

I only watched highlights to be fair but everything Sunderland did seeme to go through Reid, outstanding ball for the first goal.

[tetsujin1979]

Should have had 2 assists, looks like Cisse still doesn't understand the offside rule

[Scram]

watched the entire game, great vision from Reid for the goal and he put in some absolutely quality crosses. To be fair, there are far worse players playing for Sunderland in terms of attacking and defending. Whitehead was abysmal, Malbranque inneffective.

Reid did run out of steam though, was slow tracking back in the
2nd half and was substituted on 77mins i think.

The absolute quality of his passing should be enough to guarantee him a start in any Irish 11 at the moment. It's not like we have a string of midfield talent!

[paul_oshea]

Wonderful ball from Reidy, weighted to perfection.
How's your french
http://videos.sapo.pt/BQrvGkDFgjqFnLcNc5VH

mon pere est prof de francais et il....they said basically the stadium of light was full of applause for the goal, the technique of andy reid was perfect and that the marking was poor.

that was one of the best passes ever seen on a pitch it has to be, he came across the ball and swerved it into cisses path, however there was still a serious amount of work to do to finish it, poor defending but great piece of play and finishing by cisse.

[Guidedbyvoices]

mon pere est prof de francais et il....they said basically the stadium of light was full of applause for the goal, the technique of andy reid was perfect and that the marking was poor.

that was one of the best passes ever seen on a pitch it has to be, he came across the ball and swerved it into cisses path, however there was still a serious amount of work to do to finish it, poor defending but great piece of play and finishing by cisse.


Yes good pass, but if you think it was one of the best passes you have seen you need to get out a bit more. Andy Reid played well but he also made one very bad cross field ball where Sunderland lost procession and Portsmouth nearly punished them.

[elroy]

Yes good pass, but if you think it was one of the best passes you have seen you need to get out a bit more. Andy Reid played well but he also made one very bad cross field ball where Sunderland lost procession and Portsmouth nearly punished them.

Yes saw that, pretty much played pompey through on goal. It looked a tired pass, so fitness could still be an issue. in fairness to the guy its not like he's had much games recently.

[eirebhoy]

Reid was decent against Liverpool in first game of the season, reports say he played very well in the next game against Spurs, Sunderland get beaten 3-0 against City and Reid is dropped. Decent game against Arsenal in a 1-1 draw (Ronnie Whelan saying he should send a DVD of the game to Trap), dropped for the following game. By all accounts Sunderland's best player along with Cisse against Portsmouth, dropped for todays game.

Keane said this:

"Trapattoni might have a prototype of what players should be like or look like. If some players do not fall into that category, there is a good chance they will not be picked.

When you look at the players selected last time, even the ones ahead of Liam Miller, lads like Whelan had not been playing at Stoke, young Gibson at United, so Trapattoni obviously has his own ideas. If he sat down and off the record gave his reasons why he is not picking certain players I bet you'd think, yes, I can see why. Let's not play dumb here."


Actually happy Sunderland lost today. I really am very biased towards Reid. :D

[geysir]

Keane says (http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/soccer/keane-tells-reid-to-rise-to-the-challenge-1534316.html) he is astonished by the publicity the issue has attracted, and has told Reid to view his absence from the squad as a challenge.

'What's the big deal? It's the manager's choice, and the manager has got more experience than we will ever dream of. If he thinks Reidy is not in his plans at this moment in time, then that's a challenge to Reidy. That's all it is, it's a challenge to him', said Keane.

[irishfan86]

I find it bizarre that Keane is calling Reid's exclusion a challenge, and yet was foaming at the mouth when Staunton excluded Liam Miller.

Guess it comes down to Keane respecting Trap...

[Stuttgart88]

Did anyone notice Liam Mackey's article yesterday, giving a bit more detail on the spat between Reid & Trap?

[drummerboy]

Did anyone notice Liam Mackey's article yesterday, giving a bit more detail on the spat between Reid & Trap?

No have you got a link.

Rumour I heard was that there was a spat in the bar between Trap who had just arrived and Reid who had also just arrived into bar. Trap ordered Reid to bed but he refused and was eventually persuaded by Brady to leave and go to his room.

[paul_oshea]

ha that sounds awful stupid.

keane is getting annoying now, talking about everything to deflect from himself. He only said that so he could use it against reid to get him to better himself for sunderland. There is an awful amount of hypocrisy in football.

[Stuttgart88]

No have you got a link.

Rumour I heard was that there was a spat in the bar between Trap who had just arrived and Reid who had also just arrived into bar. Trap ordered Reid to bed but he refused and was eventually persuaded by Brady to leave and go to his room.

From yesterday's Examiner:

The Dubliner was left on the bench for the World Cup qualifying win against Cyprus at Croke Park four weeks ago after claims that he and Trapattoni almost came to blows following the victory over Georgia in September, when the 69-year-old Italian was said to have broken up a late-night singing session led by a guitar-strumming Reid at the team’s hotel.

[shakermaker1982]

From yesterday's Examiner:

The Dubliner was left on the bench for the World Cup qualifying win against Cyprus at Croke Park four weeks ago after claims that he and Trapattoni almost came to blows following the victory over Georgia in September, when the 69-year-old Italian was said to have broken up a late-night singing session led by a guitar-strumming Reid at the team’s hotel.

RIP Andy Reid's international career under the Trap regime. Impossible to come back from that - the Trap is a pensioner :D

[geysir]

Trap breaks up an (illegal) late post match singing session a couple of days before our next game.

At long last we have a manager with cojones.

[centre mid]

Its more likely that he took umbridge with Reid murdering Damien Rice songs....

[Sligo Hornet]

Wasn't Andy just singing for his supper?!;)

[geysir]

Might have all been different if he was singing the Good Ship Kan goor oooooh

[tetsujin1979]

Its more likely that he took umbridge with Reid murdering Damien Rice songs....
not possible....

[geysir]

already murdered?

[elroy]

Its more likely that he took umbridge with Reid murdering Damien Rice songs....

Well he has more time to practice them now along with the new instrument hes learning for that TG4 show.........cringe.

[Wolfie]

From yesterday's Examiner:

The Dubliner was left on the bench for the World Cup qualifying win against Cyprus at Croke Park four weeks ago after claims that he and Trapattoni almost came to blows following the victory over Georgia in September, when the 69-year-old Italian was said to have broken up a late-night singing session led by a guitar-strumming Reid at the team’s hotel.

I heard this rumour a number of weeks ago - the version of events that I heard was that drink was involved, Trapp broke up the session and Reid "went for him".

I've a feeling that fact and fiction may have blurred here, as this story has been circulating since immediately after the Georgia game.

Purple Monkey Dishwasher.

[geysir]

Have you ever heard of an Irish session that did not involve drink?

So the inevitable line added was "there must have been drink involved"
and instantly accepted as gospel.
Has much more cred than a PMD

[shakermaker1982]

good job the Trap didn't have to endure the Harry Ramsden challenge........

on second thoughts when you look at Reidy......

[irishfan86]

I obviously don't know Andy Reid personally at all, but from what I've seen in interviews, this doesn't sound like him at all.

Can anyone honestly see Andy Reid lunging at a 69 year old Trapattoni?

At worst I could hear some disgruntled remarks, but this story reeks of bull****.

[Noelys Guitar]

I obviously don't know Andy Reid personally at all, but from what I've seen in interviews, this doesn't sound like him at all.

Can anyone honestly see Andy Reid lunging at a 69 year old Trapattoni?

At worst I could hear some disgruntled remarks, but this story reeks of bull****.

I agree. Surely loads of people would have seen this happen and yet all we have is vague details of something that might have happened. It is just as likely that nothing ever happened between Reid and Trap. No bar. No lingalong. No bust up.

[irishfan86]

We have to remember too that this is the same manager who dropped Pirlo.

For good or ill, he has a system, and it seems that playmaking central midfielders are incompatible with it.

[geysir]

It's evident that he wasn't picked to play before the alleged late night alcohol lubricated session in Mainz.
But there was a glimmer of him on the sidelines being told to get ready to come on as a sub in the game against Georgia.
His árse has been sat firmly on the bench for the 2 games after that
Now people are looking for reasons as to why he is not in the squad.

Something happened.

[paul_oshea]

I heard this rumour a number of weeks ago - the version of events that I heard was that drink was involved, Trapp broke up the session and Reid "went for him".

I've a feeling that fact and fiction may have blurred here, as this story has been circulating since immediately after the Georgia game.

Purple Monkey Dishwasher.


ya and he was still around the squad for the following game. Thats a load of poppycock.

[Wolfie]

Thats a load of poppycock.

Quite possibly so - just to reiterate, I'm relaying the version of events I heard and I'm particularly dubious as to how accurate or true it is.

[Scram]

ya and he was still around the squad for the following game. Thats a load of poppycock.


The true story which nobody seems to believe is all to do with a Mama Luigi pizza with double pepperoni. Trappatoni ordered it, Andy ate it, simple as that, and you don't eat the Capo de Tutti Capi's pizza!

[macdermesser]

with Keane gone, will he get more chances at Sunderland?

(well ..so the rumour of the day is going)

[Closed Account]

with Keane gone, will he get more chances at Sunderland?

(well ..so the rumour of the day is going)
;)I was going to post that but didn't want this thread to be flooded by Keane enthusiasts....... There's a thread in world football for them to discuss now though so hopefully this will continue as the Andy Reid thread.

[Stuttgart88]

It's evident that he wasn't picked to play before the alleged late night alcohol lubricated session in Mainz.
But there was a glimmer of him on the sidelines being told to get ready to come on as a sub in the game against Georgia.
His árse has been sat firmly on the bench for the 2 games after that
Now people are looking for reasons as to why he is not in the squad.

Something happened.Yep. If Trap as punishing him for an incident in Germany why would he be on the bench twice subsequently and only left out now?

[paul_oshea]

thats what i said.

[Wolfie]

Yep. If Trap as punishing him for an incident in Germany why would he be on the bench twice subsequently and only left out now?

Brady and Tardelli placated Trapp. Reid stayed, sulked for the duration and now Trapp feels that Reid is an unsettling influence on the squad?

Pure speculation though.

[tricky_colour]

From yesterday's Examiner:

The Dubliner was left on the bench for the World Cup qualifying win against Cyprus at Croke Park four weeks ago after claims that he and Trapattoni almost came to blows following the victory over Georgia in September, when the 69-year-old Italian was said to have broken up a late-night singing session led by a guitar-strumming Reid at the team’s hotel.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=9JitDWQI9qcA member of at staff at the hotel recorded the incident and post it on utube. http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=9JitDWQI9qc

[Junior]

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=9JitDWQI9qcA member of at staff at the hotel recorded the incident and post it on utube. http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=9JitDWQI9qc

Brilliant - Andy Reid is no joking matter though.;)

[Stuttgart88]

thats what i said.
yeah, but i nearly always ignore you.

[eirebhoy]

It's evident that he wasn't picked to play before the alleged late night alcohol lubricated session in Mainz.
But there was a glimmer of him on the sidelines being told to get ready to come on as a sub in the game against Georgia.
His árse has been sat firmly on the bench for the 2 games after that
Now people are looking for reasons as to why he is not in the squad.

Something happened.
Trap said that Reid was on a list of 3 subs he had planned to bring on in Montenegro (for one of the strikers) but he was happy with how it was going.

[geysir]

If Trap was going to use him in the Montenegro game (and the Georgia game), that suggests he thought him at least deserving to be a substitute.
Something has changed.
Either something happened sometime or Andy Reid has simply been dropped.
Most people now can't understand why he isn't in the squad.
Journalists have shifted towards the Mainz story/rumour.
Could well be that after Trap out sprinted Andy in a fitness test, he had second thoughts .

[irishfan86]

We, as Ireland fans, are more familiar with Andy Reid than Trap is.

We've seen his goals, and his performances for us over the last few years.

Since Trap has arrived, Andy Reid has gone from key player at Sunderland, to a borderline starter.

In the weeks leading up to this Poland friendly, Reid didn't play at all in the Premiership.

If Reid was dropped, and so were the likes of Long and Whelan, then I'd have no problem with it, as he'd be showing consistency.

My problem with Reid's omission is that it isn't really consistent with Trap's other decisions.

Why Long gets to stay, and Reid doesn't, makes no sense to me.

[Noelys Guitar]

The Sunderland v Blackburn game tomorrow should be an interesting. We could have Reid up against Andrews.

[viagogo]

The Sunderland v Blackburn game tomorrow should be an interesting. We could have Reid up against Andrews.

If Reid plays. Probably more interest in if Roy Keane turns up. According to Sunderland Echo Keane has quit then they say this is not true. No smoke without fire id say.

[Carrigaline]

If Reid plays. Probably more interest in if Roy Keane turns up. According to Sunderland Echo Keane has quit then they say this is not true. No smoke without fire id say.
Rubbish. Keane will be in the dugout today.

[Stuttgart88]

From today's Guardian:


However, the success of Richardson and Malbranque [I]has often led to Keane leaving Andy Reid's goal-conjuring invention on the bench. When Sunderland's players recently paraded at a charity fashion catwalk, the guitar-strumming, Reid - a talented singer-songwriter - provided both backing music and vocals. The diminutive, slightly chunky midfielder can be similarly inspiring on the pitch and his presence invariably helps Sunderland flow.

Yet if Djibril Cissé craves the Dubliner's improvisational passing incision, Keane appears to have become slightly fixated with computerised analysis of players' performances just lately and Reid is probably not top of the class when it comes to the ProZone print-outs adorning the manager's desk.

[Noelys Guitar]

Reid on the bench.

[eirebhoy]

Didn't Reid say his prozone stats are up there with most premiership players? At least that's what I remember a commentator say earlier this season.