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eirebhoy
29/03/2007, 4:07 PM
Yeah, I read that a few days ago. They used the words "Inspirational Reid" on a Charlton fanzine. :)

Collyontour
29/03/2007, 4:10 PM
Disaster for him. Looks like he'll be dropping a division next year now.

The Legend
29/03/2007, 5:17 PM
Pity, he was in great form just before his injury... it will take a lot for him now to get back playing regularly in a premier league team

livehead1
29/03/2007, 5:20 PM
especially as charlton look doomed to get relegated giving him very little chance of a transfer to the premiership. although not a disaster for us i suppose as he will get in a good pre-season and hopefully be fit come september to give us more options

7 points from their last 9? We're doomed for qualification then so

galwayhoop
29/03/2007, 5:26 PM
7 points from their last 9? We're doomed for qualification then so

:confused: don't understand

livehead1
29/03/2007, 6:37 PM
:confused: don't understand

you say charlton are doomed for relegation despite the fact they have taken 7 points out of a possible 9. Using your logic, we're doomed not to qualify, haveing a similar recent record.

galwayhoop
29/03/2007, 7:16 PM
you say charlton are doomed for relegation despite the fact they have taken 7 points out of a possible 9. Using your logic, we're doomed not to qualify, haveing a similar recent record.

i would make us having not only 9 from 9 but 12 from 12 which is much better than 7 from 9. and if we don't qualify it won't be because the last 3 or 4 games but moreso the ones before and the ones to come.... the same of charlton if they go down it obviously won't be because of their last 3 games but the ones before and after.

i honestly couldn't give a tóss about charlton, or sheffield united or watford, liverpool or man yoo. this is an ireland forum (i.e. about the irish national team) not an english premiership forum. i honestly didn't think i would be causing offense to anyone by saying i thought charlton would get relegated. but yes i think they will get relegated if you must know.

and your doomed for qualification statement should surely have said doomed to miss out on qualification if it were to make the sense you speak of above. post more clearly in future if you are trying to make a point. good man

as_i_say
29/03/2007, 8:55 PM
i dont care about english teams either but would rather see our lads prosper in the premiership hence it would be better if charlton stayed up simply cos one of our most gifted players plays for them.

hopefully west ham will go down with watford anyway. no irish interest.

galwayhoop
29/03/2007, 9:29 PM
i dont care about english teams either but would rather see our lads prosper in the premiership hence it would be better if charlton stayed up simply cos one of our most gifted players plays for them.hopefully west ham will go down with watford anyway. no irish interest.

if charlton do stay up it will be most likely at the expense of sheffield utd (a.quinn, s.quinn, d.geary) as they are only 4 points ahead although a distant possibility of either wigan (kilbane) or maybe man city (r.dunne, s.ireland).

in that context, yes, good riddence to watford and west ham but would rather charlton to go down than sheffield utd tbh as lose 1 player with charlton but 3 with sheff utd and definately wouldn't want to lose man city. however wouldn't mind either wigan or even fulham to go down instead of charlton. but really don't give a tóss as if the players are really good enough they will get back up.

shakermaker1982
29/03/2007, 9:37 PM
I am gutted for Reidy - he has played well whenever he hasn't been injured this season and I think the Charlton fans have taken to him but it looks like its Championship football for him next season unless Sheff Utd crash and burn.

kev mcq
29/03/2007, 10:03 PM
if charlton do stay up it will be most likely at the expense of sheffield utd (a.quinn, s.quinn, d.geary) as they are only 4 points ahead although a distant possibility of either wigan (kilbane) or maybe man city (r.dunne, s.ireland).

in that context, yes, good riddence to watford and west ham but would rather charlton to go down than sheffield utd tbh as lose 1 player with charlton but 3 with sheff utd and definately wouldn't want to lose man city. however wouldn't mind either wigan or even fulham to go down instead of charlton. but really don't give a tóss as if the players are really good enough they will get back up.

Since when has geary been in the irish squad? It's pretty clear stan has no intention of picking him

dr_peepee
29/03/2007, 10:15 PM
A few more games for Charlton and a premiership club would defo have taken him on. Unfortunate alright!!

eirebhoy
30/03/2007, 9:46 PM
Charlton will stay up. They're a better team than Sheffield Utd imo and have to play them at home. Win that and they've only 1 point to make up.

kingdom hoop
30/03/2007, 10:02 PM
who knows maybe he'll be back in the premiership next season, with sunderland! seriously though, even if charlton go down the championship season starts before the premiership, giving him the chance of a few more games before our crucial september march on czechslovakia. there are always positives!

FarBeag
30/03/2007, 10:36 PM
It’s a shame about Andy Reid's prolonged injury. I could safely say that he is the most intelligent and gifted player that Ireland have.I am always much more optimistic about Irelands chances when I see both him and Duffer on the field. I hope to God he is ready for September.

DmanDmythDledge
31/03/2007, 12:40 PM
Reid is our most gifted player and this injury is another setback for him, and for the national team. IMO he would make a great partnership with Steven Reid for us.

galwayhoop
31/03/2007, 3:07 PM
Since when has geary been in the irish squad? It's pretty clear stan has no intention of picking him

he's not. but he does play regulary in the EPL in a position where we struggle. JoS at RB and finnan at LB is not ideal. the more irish players playing regulary at the highest levels possible is better for us

inexile
12/08/2007, 11:19 AM
just watched the highlights of the charlton scunthorpe game there, admittedly it was only highlights but reid looked very good, some lovely touches, looked fairly slim too, also appears to be charlton skipper, hopefully he can stay injury free

joema
12/08/2007, 11:58 AM
Very good player IMO, very underrated and arguably our most creative player, still has a lot to offer us. Just hope he stays injury free for a while!

balls
12/08/2007, 12:34 PM
definately our most creative player . i rate him highly

stojkovic
12/08/2007, 1:17 PM
ya - and lays off the burgers.
Yes indeed - there's only two Andy Reids.

He looked like Maradona (now) when he came on last year, cant remember which match.

joema
12/08/2007, 5:46 PM
ha ha ha, thats very funny and oh so original! :rolleyes:

Ceirtlis
12/08/2007, 5:58 PM
It said in the Sun yesterday that he had a spell in a health farm during the summer, hopefully he does well this season.

DmanDmythDledge
12/08/2007, 6:35 PM
Our best midfielder without doubt imo. Good to see him back in action.

eirebhoy
12/08/2007, 6:47 PM
Reid captained Charlton yesterday too.

He's not only the most technically gifted player we have but also the most intelligent imo. My current footballing idol, Nakamura, was interviewed on Setanta yesterday. He said football is played with the feet, legs, shoulders, etc. but the most important part of a footballer is from the neck up. Obviously he reckons the football brain is the most important part in a player. Naka is a genius in terms of intelligence and Reid is the only Irish player close to his wavelength imho.

He had a good pre-season. I posted this in the pre-season thread but he set up Charlton's first 4 goals in a 5-0 win against Gillingham.

Stuttgart88
13/08/2007, 8:07 AM
I saw brief highlights on TV & he looked a cut above the rest. Didn't notice much of McCarthy but their central defence looked disorganised.

Jim Goodwin was quite prominent for Scnuthorpe in midfield & Joe Murphy made a couple of decent saves.

Ordinary Fan
13/08/2007, 8:38 AM
Must be in the Irish team in September to get the most from Keane and Doyle

citizenerased
13/08/2007, 12:33 PM
Our best midfielder without doubt imo. Good to see him back in action.

:D, Good one! considering he couldnt even make the foockin squad against germany and cyprus!!

Stuttgart88
13/08/2007, 12:55 PM
He was injured at the start of last season, though it was thought he was available for selection in Germany. Staunton was widely derided at the time for not picking him.

I think Stephen Ireland has been our best payer in recent games and I think Andy Reid is a better player. Having a fit and on-form Reid will be a big boost to our chances.

geysir
13/08/2007, 1:21 PM
Reid had a recurring hamstring problem. It was an issue befor the Germany game. He wasn't deemed fit probably by his club. Next game he played for Charlton he still wasn't fully fit and had to retire early due to hamstring problem. Then he was out for another month.

Stuttgart88
13/08/2007, 1:35 PM
My recollection is that Reid was injured in Charlton's last game before the German game, but he was fit and playing for Charlton in August last year when the squad was announced. In this context his ommission from the squad was a surprise & it attracted a lot of criticism as well as speculation.

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=39464&highlight=andy+reid+stuttgart

He was unavailable for Cyprus.

geysir
13/08/2007, 2:07 PM
It's history but imo Stan deserves the benifit of any doubt in this matter. Reid had come on a sub against W Ham and then missed the next game. I don't recall when the squad was announced.
Stan's decision was imo justified by the mere fact that Reid in the first game for his club after the Stuttgart game had to retire and was out for a month.
It's great news that he is back now and available.

DmanDmythDledge
13/08/2007, 2:09 PM
:D, Good one! considering he couldnt even make the foockin squad against germany and cyprus!!
If you can't see how good Reid is you don't have a clue about football.

NeilMcD
13/08/2007, 2:30 PM
I think anybody who know anything about football would know that when fit that Reid is a pretty good player. The problem for him is that he has been carrying a bit of weight and has had problems with injury. Because he is not a natural in the physical department he suffers more than most. Great football brain but he needs to be in top shape to show us this.

citizenerased
13/08/2007, 2:40 PM
If you can't see how good Reid is you don't have a clue about football.


What has he done to warrant the Tag as 'Irelands best midfielder'?


I think he is decent but to suggest that he is our best midfielder is laughable...althoigh he possibly has the potential to be talent wise, bags of potential!

geysir
13/08/2007, 2:55 PM
Regardless of merits, he is back and playing well.

And a good headache for our manager is when he has to choose from a bunch of the best of our available fit midfielders.

drinkfeckarse
13/08/2007, 3:38 PM
Having a fit and in form Andy Reid as well as Stephen Ireland is great news for us. Both players are technically excellent and it's not often we can say we have midfield players of that abililty that can unlock even the best defences.

The Legend
13/08/2007, 8:08 PM
What has he done to warrant the Tag as 'Irelands best midfielder'?


I think he is decent but to suggest that he is our best midfielder is laughable...althoigh he possibly has the potential to be talent wise, bags of potential!

Agreed, check back when he's had a consistent run at a top level (so, not this season) without injury.

zenokelly
14/08/2007, 1:19 PM
What has he done to warrant the Tag as 'Irelands best midfielder'?


I think he is decent but to suggest that he is our best midfielder is laughable...althoigh he possibly has the potential to be talent wise, bags of potential!

Name another midfielder you'd put ahead of him.

Reid is badly needed for September. no doubt about it he's the most creative player we have at the moment. He gets you goals.(assists)

All we need now is Steven Reid and we'll give it a good go in the East

Dr. Ogba
14/08/2007, 1:48 PM
Since we don't have Duff, we NEED Reid, period.

He's the most creative and intelligent player we have. He showed this against san marino, and while you might say its only san marino look at what happened in the away game when we didnt have him. :/

in fact have we ever played badly in recent times with Reid in the team?


Case in point: Czech Republic at home, Reid ran the show...

stojkovic
14/08/2007, 5:23 PM
Case in point: Czech Republic at home, Reid ran the show...

I cant say I remember it that way, but i'll take your word for it.

MeathDrog
14/08/2007, 5:34 PM
I thought Kilbane played well that game and it was fitting that he scored

citizenerased
15/08/2007, 9:14 AM
He was decent against the czechs, but so was o'shea, and so was douglas...Stephen Hunt has had a more successful period in the premiership than him, id rate McGeady higher aswell to be honest and stephen ireland, steven reid, duff (although injured) are higher up the pecking order..

onephillyhughes
15/08/2007, 10:39 AM
Speaking of Stephen Reid, is he back yet? Quality player when fit.

eirebhoy
15/08/2007, 10:46 AM
Reid has well proven himself by now. He's better than Hunt and McGeady. No doubt about it. Ireland is technically very gifted but definitely not Reid's standard yet imo. I think if you replaced Ireland with Reid for the away match in San Marino we would have won it fairly comfortably. He's a much more dominant player. He's not really similar to Duff. Duff is a much better winger but Reid is a much better playmaker.

I don't think you can play down the fact that Pardew made Reid the captain of Charlton. He's only there a year, hasn't played much, and isn't exactly a vocal leader. He scored a peno for them last night. He will be the difference between Charlton winning the league and finishing 10th. ;)

dr_peepee
15/08/2007, 10:49 AM
Spurs could have done with Reid last night...

tetsujin1979
15/08/2007, 11:03 AM
Speaking of Stephen Reid, is he back yet? Quality player when fit.
fit, but not match fit
He was expected to play some part in the later games in pre-seaon but didn't make an appearance.

beautifulrock
17/08/2007, 1:58 PM
Charlton V Stoke tomorrow on Sky 5.15 (i think) so a good chance to see how Andy is playing.

kingeric
17/08/2007, 2:31 PM
i think Reid will have a really important role to play for Ireland over the next year. D Duff will more than likely be injured and I think Reid is Ireland's best option on the left when DD is out.

Hopefully, he can stay injury free, get a good run of games under his belt and a premership club will come in for him in January.

On another note- spoke with Reidy's father recently and i was shocked to learn that Stan hasn't called Andy once since he took over to wish him well with his recovery or even to tell him he's still in Stan's thoughts.

inexperience or just bad management???

Billsthoughts
17/08/2007, 2:54 PM
Have to say I love watching reid play. we should be building our team around him. stick a couple of ball winners in there to help him out. hunt has a great energy and urgency about him but he seems a bit limited. I like Mageady as well. I just like to watch players who can actually play football. I have always been a fan of stephen reid even before he was flavour of the month:rolleyes: but I dont think he has played well for Ireland at all since staunton took over. pity. we have some good players at the moment shouldnt be any excuses for not giving qualifying a good shot. anymore stan morinos and staunton should be shown the door.