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geysir
01/02/2008, 12:47 PM
But he was carrying an injury during that game. A fit Andy Reid is crucial to our hopes of qualifying for the World Cup. He gives us options that no other senior player currently gives us. If he can stay injury free for the next few years I believe his class will show and he can make it in the Premiership.
Was there any reason as to why he was below average against Wales in the last game.

Stuttgart88
01/02/2008, 5:47 PM
Not having a pop at Reid over his weight but I'd love to see how he'd perform if Juande Ramos' fitness coach got his hands on him. Robbie is fitter and leaner than I've ever seen him. Soccerc, about 2-3 years ago, used to cite Robbie's lack of conditioning as the reason why he was stuck in a rut . Spurs are fitter and lighter than I've ever seen them, catching up with United and Arsenal in that regard, and I honestly think that Reid with the same attention would improve markedly in a short time. Robbie has. I read in the Evening Standard that under Jol the Spurs canteen at the training ground still served fried food and that was one of the first things that changed. Livehead, can you see the difference in Huddlestone? It was beyond belief that Robinson could be England's no. 1 in his shape.

I do triathlon recreationally (as well as drinking daily and eating kebabs recreationally) but can clearly notice the performance difference only a few pounds can make.

Paddy Garcia
01/02/2008, 8:18 PM
To be honest I dont think Reid is as good as some people say he is. IMO he is a player who while being one of the best players in the coca cola champ. he struggles at the higher level of the premiership. McShane is another player who I would have at that level.

Reid is a class act. Very unfair to compare him to the likes of McShane, who I think is recognised now as neither a premiership or international class player.

irishfan86
01/02/2008, 8:32 PM
Reid is a class act. Very unfair to compare him to the likes of McShane, who I think is recognised now as neither a premiership or international class player.

I think the comparison is fair.

Both Reid and McShane have shown flashes of brilliance at the highest levels, but neither have consistently proven this in my view.

Andy Reid has been impressive most of the times I've seen him, and I think if he can stay healthy he can be a key player for Sunderland.

But, injuries are a factor in judging a player, and if he's constantly injured or playing when not fully fit, it will affect his ability to perform.

In addition, I find the writing off of McShane at such an early age disappointing. He's very young for a Premiership centrehalf, and if he's given more of a rotation role at Sunderland as he seems to be now I think it will be better for him.

He's shown so far that he cannot consistently be the leader back there for Sunderland just yet.

But I think he's going to be a very good player for us in the future when he develops a bit of consistency, and that will come with experience over time.

strangeirish
01/02/2008, 9:05 PM
I genuinely hope Reid males it at Sunderland for Irelands cause no other reason. I am the same when it comes to all Irish players as Im sure we all are.

Versus femaling it?

Noelys Guitar
01/02/2008, 9:07 PM
Not having a pop at Reid over his weight but I'd love to see how he'd perform if Juande Ramos' fitness coach got his hands on him. Robbie is fitter and leaner than I've ever seen him. Soccerc, about 2-3 years ago, used to cite Robbie's lack of conditioning as the reason why he was stuck in a rut . Spurs are fitter and lighter than I've ever seen them, catching up with United and Arsenal in that regard, and I honestly think that Reid with the same attention would improve markedly in a short time. Robbie has. I read in the Evening Standard that under Jol the Spurs canteen at the training ground still served fried food and that was one of the first things that changed. Livehead, can you see the difference in Huddlestone? It was beyond belief that Robinson could be England's no. 1 in his shape.

I do triathlon recreationally (as well as drinking daily and eating kebabs recreationally) but can clearly notice the performance difference only a few pounds can make.

The Ramos effect on Keane has been amazing. Keane looks like he can score against anyone. His reactions have quickened and he is lasting much longer in games. I just hope he stays injury free. I wish Duff was playing for Spurs.

ramsfan
01/02/2008, 9:09 PM
the pressure is off keane a little bit with defoe going, hope it wont make him complacent?

Stuttgart88
01/02/2008, 9:43 PM
the pressure is off keane a little bit with defoe going, hope it wont make him complacent?Keane shrugged off the "pressure" from Defoe a long long time ago in my opinion. I think Keane is smart enough to realise that having seen off one tyro that it doesn't mean Ramos can't identify someone else to come in in an instant.

Noely, I agree, Duff at Spurs would be a Godsend for us. What an ill-advised response from Duff saying he couldn't go from Chelsea to Spurs, who wanted him, because they were London rivals. Devlin's influence was far from positive in this instance.

tetsujin1979
02/02/2008, 12:25 AM
the pressure is off keane a little bit with defoe going, hope it wont make him complacent?
With Defoe gone, it's a chance for 16.5 million pound signing Darren Bent to prove his worth. Remember, he was the top scoring English player in the Premiership last season, and has barely featured for Spurs this season, so instead of playing well to keep Defoe out of the team, Robbie has to keep playing well to keep Bent out of the team.

eekers
02/02/2008, 12:43 AM
With Defoe gone, it's a chance for 16.5 million pound signing Darren Bent to prove his worth. Remember, he was the top scoring English player in the Premiership last season, and has barely featured for Spurs this season, so instead of playing well to keep Defoe out of the team, Robbie has to keep playing well to keep Bent out of the team.

People think Ramos isnt a fan of Bent but the reality is half of them dont even realise he's been injured almost since he arrived. Cant help but think Bent will flourish now with Defoe gone, particularly after seeing the counter attacking style they used in the second half against Arsenal.
Was it just my that though Duff was dropping big hints during the week when interviewed - when asked if he was happy with his move to Newcastle said the only two team out of the top4 he would join were Newcastle and Tottenham.

tricky_colour
02/02/2008, 6:32 AM
But will he like it up there in Sunderland???

Is there a Burger King? ;)

There is now!!

dr_peepee
02/02/2008, 12:05 PM
Reid is a class act. Very unfair to compare him to the likes of McShane, who I think is recognised now as neither a premiership or international class player.

Very harsh on McShane to say the least..

McShane played very well at the start of the season... Acknowledged by more than just the green tinted views of Irish fans. I also think that when things haven't gone his way they've been Isolated mishaps in between solid performances, sometimes even just plain bad luck. Unfortunate ricochets, even Kevin Nolans blatant nudge on him when they conceeded against Bolton. He's been a victim of the lack of depth at Sunderland. At that age too much exposure can be counter productive. When things started to go wrongs he should have been taken out of the firing line to minimise impact on confidence, but they'd no alternatives at the back and he was left in. He's only 21 and still has allot to offer with the right partner.

NeilMcD
02/02/2008, 12:12 PM
A bit like Andrew Ridgeley

dr_peepee
02/02/2008, 6:33 PM
:D :D Quality...

Jayzus lads... Wham? And Stutts bringing up Spandau Ballet on another thread? If someone references Bronski Beat I'm outta here...

eirebhoy
17/03/2008, 4:05 PM
Reid was man of the match against Chelsea in the fantasy football. One report said Sunderland players weren't as comfortable on the ball as Chelsea players with the exception of Reid.

Keane has been criticised for his transfer dealings, but you have to applaud his recruitment of Andy Reid.

The former Charlton midfielder might be one of the fattest men in football, but he's not short on skill.

Sunderland have been crying out for someone with the ability to open up defences and Reid has this in abundance.

He found gaps in a tight midfield and was the beating, flabby heart of everything that Sunderland did.

With Carlos Edwards also looking quite sprightly on his return from injury, there is hope for this team yet.

http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/sports/story/0,4136,159418,00.html

macdermesser
18/03/2008, 7:20 AM
Reid was selected for Goal's team of the week too.

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=624757

Andy Reid (Sunderland)
Sunderland gave Chelsea a stern test at the Stadium of Light, putting the Blues under intense pressure. The Black Cats could not be faulted for their energy or commitment, with Reid producing most of their best moments as they forced Chelsea onto the back-foot throughout the second-half. Carlo Cudicini had to pull off a fine save from Reid's curling free-kick, as the wide midfielder (in both senses of the description) prompted and probed impressively for Roy Keane's side.


They really need to calm down with the fat jokes. :rolleyes:

Agree ... even the bbc are it .. from their match report

"But Sunderland, prompted by the impressive if slightly rotund Andy Reid in midfield, started to settle."

twoenz
19/03/2008, 9:20 PM
Sorry to stray from the point slightly: but there's a definite bias sneaking into the BBC match reports, it's getting very snide: just look at this from tonight:

Chelsea's players - led with an air of inevitability by England captain John Terry under the watchful eye of coach Fabio Capello

I know it's pretty true, but I always use the BBC for reporting of the facts and not to resort to petty jibes...

Carry on...

beautifulrock
19/03/2008, 9:28 PM
Sorry to stray from the point slightly: but there's a definite bias sneaking into the BBC match reports, it's getting very snide: just look at this from tonight:

Chelsea's players - led with an air of inevitability by England captain John Terry under the watchful eye of coach Fabio Capello

I know it's pretty true, but I always use the BBC for reporting of the facts and not to resort to petty jibes...

Carry on...

is this on the "live" text by Ben Dirs by an chance

twoenz
19/03/2008, 9:38 PM
No, the live text is quite funny, and it's much better than the "24:13, attacking throw in by Quinn (Sheffield Wednesday) resulting in open play" that they used to (or possibly still do) have. This was from the match report.

NeilMcD
22/03/2008, 1:27 PM
Keane believes Republic of Ireland international Reid, a £4m signing from Charlton in January, will have a major say in Sunderland’s relegation escape bid.

He said: “Since he’s come to the club, anything good that has come through our team has come through Reidy.

“We saw his quality on the training pitch last week and we’re seeing it in games because he’s getting fitter, stronger and sharper. Reidy will have a big part to play. At this level, sometimes it’s down to a set-piece. We lost a game last weekend and all it took was one quality ball in.

“Hopefully, the likes of Reidy, Carlos Edwards or Roy O’Donovan, who have come back into the team, can provide that.”


From the examiner.ie

paul_oshea
24/03/2008, 4:47 PM
cant remember the exact quote from the times but ill paraphrase:

"reid illuminated up the midfield, and everything imaginative in the team came from him" or something to that effect, illuminated and midfield were definitely in there :)

shakermaker1982
24/03/2008, 5:35 PM
Reidy was MOM again in the guardian today. Keep it up Andy!

paul_oshea
24/03/2008, 6:16 PM
ya looks like he is finally getting his chance....

tricky_colour
24/03/2008, 8:28 PM
It was a heavyweight preformance by all accounts.

Razors left peg
24/03/2008, 8:43 PM
It was a heavyweight preformance by all accounts.
Cheap shot!

tricky_colour
25/03/2008, 4:34 AM
Cheap shot!

Well, I meant formidible ;)
Andy Reid is never going to be a greyhound, attempts at turning him into one
will fail, that's not his game, the best training regeime for Andy is a visit to the
burger bar!!

as_i_say
25/03/2008, 11:42 AM
Maybe andy reid's weight defenders could post us up some of the premier league fitness stats that were posted here before showing reid to be one of the fittest (note i said fittest) players in the league. I deffo think I saw stats here before on him...

endabob1
25/03/2008, 12:05 PM
I remember Jol saying he was one of the fittest players at Spurs despite the fact that he always looked like he just steped out of an all you can eat pie shop.
Mind you it was a couple of months before a transfer window......

colster
25/03/2008, 12:09 PM
I remember Jol saying he was one of the fittest players at Spurs despite the fact that he always looked like he just steped out of an all you can eat pie shop.
Mind you it was a couple of months before a transfer window......

Thats not much of a recommendation when you consider the improvement in fitness in the Spurs players since Ramos took over.

Seagull-4-life
25/03/2008, 12:56 PM
I really like Reid...people should stop with the fat jokes because he's a big player for ireland (i couldn't resist. i really do like him though).

Sligo Hornet
25/03/2008, 1:21 PM
I agree...he's one of the best at gaining time on the ball and his incisive passing is accurate and threatening ( ideal for Robbie )

He reminds me of the "truly" fat Liverpool midfielder Jan Molby who never got crucified for not having a six pack but let his ability do his talking.

NeilMcD
25/03/2008, 1:38 PM
Sligo you know you want to say it but he reminds you of my good self in Cyprus in 30 degrees of heat.

Sligo Hornet
25/03/2008, 1:45 PM
Sligo you know you want to say it but he reminds you of my good self in Cyprus in 30 degrees of heat.

Maybe so Neil......although that may have had something to do with your deodorant running out!:p

endabob1
25/03/2008, 2:00 PM
Thats not much of a recommendation when you consider the improvement in fitness in the Spurs players since Ramos took over.

Very true, never thought of it like that :o

I've always thought of reidy as a bit of a Le Tissier, he looks very lazy but occasionally produces moments of real magic.

Razors left peg
25/03/2008, 4:40 PM
Very true, never thought of it like that :o

I've always thought of reidy as a bit of a Le Tissier, he looks very lazy but occasionally produces moments of real magic.

He might look lazy but his work rate is brilliant

NeilMcD
25/03/2008, 7:02 PM
Yeah over in Prague, he was always the best at chasing back etc when they hit us on the break. I can think of one example when the Czechs caught us on the break from a corner and Reid tracked the run of Rosicky all the way.

Razors left peg
25/03/2008, 8:53 PM
was the same against Germany in Croker, he won alot of tackles that day and ran himself into the ground

eirebhoy
26/03/2008, 8:11 AM
So that's 2 motm votes for Reid in the fantasy football. More than any other Sunderland midfielder. He was excellent against Villa.

Dr. Ogba
26/03/2008, 8:23 AM
So that's 2 motm votes for Reid in the fantasy football. More than any other Sunderland midfielder. He was excellent against Villa.


yeah thought he completely outshone Gareth Barry who had been a regular under McClaren in Englands midfield. He played some fantastic through-balls in the first half , in particular that ball to Murphy down the left which led to O'Donovan's headed chance...

Razors left peg
29/03/2008, 3:58 PM
Got the winner today and another super performance by all accounts

feo123
29/03/2008, 4:01 PM
fare play to him he's been very good since moving to sunderland

Razors left peg
29/03/2008, 4:05 PM
fare play to him he's been very good since moving to sunderland

agreed, think hes finally starting to show his quality in the premiership and prove some of the doubters wrong. Delighted for him

Carrigaline
29/03/2008, 4:05 PM
Does anyone doubt Reid's ability now? If it wasn't for his quality performances in the last few games, Sunderland would be in the crapper. Now, it looks like they're safe.

NeilMcD
29/03/2008, 4:12 PM
The more I see it the more I think a Stephen Reid, Andy Reid, Stephen Ireland, 3 man midfield could work or just the former 2 against the weaker sides maybe with Doyle and Keane up front.

A right footed shot too from Reid. I remember watching Reid and Keane against France at LR. Keane was in his ear all day but it was done in a fashion of almost father and son or coach and player. He was not shouting at him but was talking him through the game.

shakermaker1982
29/03/2008, 4:15 PM
well done Reidy - I knew you could do it in the PL. Sunderland are safe now so I imagine Roy Keane's job is safe.... Bolton on the other hand look doomed.

Razors left peg
29/03/2008, 4:20 PM
The more I see it the more I think a Reid Reid Ireland midfield could work.

I definately think it would work

inexile
29/03/2008, 5:45 PM
well done Reidy - I knew you could do it in the PL. Sunderland are safe now so I imagine Roy Keane's job is safe.... Bolton on the otherhand look doomed.


keane's job was never under threat im sure

shakermaker1982
29/03/2008, 6:18 PM
keane's job was never under threat im sure

It was a subtle dig at all those anti Keane/Sunderland fans who declared him worst manager in the PL back in November/December :D

A Reid/Reid central pairing is a must if we are to have any chance of challenging Italy and Bulgaria.

Closed Account
29/03/2008, 6:20 PM
Good finish, left foot volley,
Murphy a few minutes before hand though.... Ahem... Taxi
http://videos.sapo.pt/AGfezOhzgHclEkhevzRl

tricky_colour
29/03/2008, 7:52 PM
Sensible of Reid not to do any back flips in his celebration.