Clare League 2007/08

[First]

just heard newtown v moher off 2nite

Reason?

[nutmeg]

Newmarket 2-0 Lifford... Frank McNamara got both goals. He will be a huge addition to Newmarket this year. Is he still playing rugby?

nah finished up as far as i know.

[Spudd]

Reason?

A player from moher's granfather died.....

[old git]

A player from moher's granfather died.....

maybe newtown should have tried this last weekend with all their players missing. :ball:

[brutus]

maybe newtown should have tried this last weekend with all their players missing. :ball:

Thats what newtown should have done,teams have being do this for years,its a bit of a harsh explanation but works.

[smellyfeet]

Looks very good,provides fixtures but its a bit of a waste if the League tables aren't updated. Also, whoever is in charge of it should try to get Match reports, Nearly every Club in the League has someone on this site that could give a match report to Clare League and they should put on the Leagues own site.

[MikeBassett]

ya the website is fairly decent alrite but for some strange reason in some places it updates a lot quicker than other places...eg when im at home the premier and youths tables and top scorers update an hour or so after each day of games but if i go on the site at work even a few days later it still wouldnt have updated and the top scorer tables are just blank. :confused:

[Bossman]

The website is cached in your PC at work. You need to hit the reload button.

[First]

From a conversation I had last night , something struck me about the way football is in Clare. Loyalty and peoples perception of loyalty. Now before anyone jumps on that statement I am only expressing a view that I have at things as they are now. I was talking to a manager of a Clare league side who named his team to me that played during the week and this is my point the players that he named had and probably will never have any loyalty to the club that they are "representing". Is it a case where a club name can now be used by a bunch of lads that want a kick about without any interest in the club itself.

It is understandable that players will move from club to club but when a club is moved from club to club it makes me wonder.

Gone it seems are the days when a player would take pride in wearing the jersey of the first team in his club. Now it seems that any ** that says he will turn up on a Sunday can play for that club.

Any opinions

[smellyfeet]

From a conversation I had last night , something struck me about the way football is in Clare. Loyalty and peoples perception of loyalty. Now before anyone jumps on that statement I am only expressing a view that I have at things as they are now. I was talking to a manager of a Clare league side who named his team to me that played during the week and this is my point the players that he named had and probably will never have any loyalty to the club that they are "representing". Is it a case where a club name can now be used by a bunch of lads that want a kick about without any interest in the club itself.

It is understandable that players will move from club to club but when a club is moved from club to club it makes me wonder.

Gone it seems are the days when a player would take pride in wearing the jersey of the first team in his club. Now it seems that any ** that says he will turn up on a Sunday can play for that club.

Any opinions

You must have been on the beer again.

Anyway, I think that Nowadays players move from club to club alot more"myself included".

[First]

You must have been on the beer again.

Anyway, I think that Nowadays players move from club to club alot more"myself included".

Players I can understand , Clubs moving is what I am getting at. Read the post before you give an opinion. And yes we all know your loyalties can be bought for a can of coke and a mars bar.:p

[smellyfeet]

Players I can understand , Clubs moving is what I am getting at. Read the post before you give an opinion. And yes we all know your loyalties can be bought for a can of coke and a mars bar.:p

Jesus, you must have a serious sore head thismorning.

Its Lucozade sport for me..:)

[shelbourne1904]

From a conversation I had last night , something struck me about the way football is in Clare. Loyalty and peoples perception of loyalty. Now before anyone jumps on that statement I am only expressing a view that I have at things as they are now. I was talking to a manager of a Clare league side who named his team to me that played during the week and this is my point the players that he named had and probably will never have any loyalty to the club that they are "representing". Is it a case where a club name can now be used by a bunch of lads that want a kick about without any interest in the club itself.

It is understandable that players will move from club to club but when a club is moved from club to club it makes me wonder.

Gone it seems are the days when a player would take pride in wearing the jersey of the first team in his club. Now it seems that any ** that says he will turn up on a Sunday can play for that club.

Any opinions

Loyalty is a 2 way street.Based on what youve said above should the clubs have loyalty to the players???

[First]

Loyalty is a 2 way street.Based on what youve said above should the clubs have loyalty to the players???

Of course a club should have loyalty to its players. What I am saying is that it seems that players loyalty to a club is not important to some clubs . Players that move on mass from one club to another and are only representative of the club in name only.

Club =a group of persons organized for a social, literary, athletic, political, or other purpose
History = the record of past events and times, esp. in connection with the human race.
Nomads = A member of a group of people who have no fixed home and move according to the seasons from place to place

[shanman2]

Of course a club should have loyalty to its players. What I am saying is that it seems that players loyalty to a club is not important to some clubs . Players that move on mass from one club to another and are only representative of the club in name only.

Club =a group of persons organized for a social, literary, athletic, political, or other purpose
History = the record of past events and times, esp. in connection with the human race.
Nomads = A member of a group of people who have no fixed home and move according to the seasons from place to place
You have a very good point there but I fear most people on this thread in particular are afraid to sway from conservative liberalism.

[First]

You have a very good point there but I fear most people on this thread in particular are afraid to sway from conservative liberalism.

But as conservative liberals are often in favour of stricter rules on immigration and are not enthusiastic about multiculturalism, should this not make them more inclined to show some degree of loyalty.;)

[First]

i'd say your guiness was spiked.....:p
did you stay up all night thinking bout this:D

I don't drink, and yes I am a little tired after debating the worlds wrongs all night.My musing began with the idea that if everyone stayed where they belonged and stopped these mass migrations into other peoples territories then we would have less ghettos which breeds contempt which leads to increasing violence which in turn leads to war and chaos will prevail.

Then again I might just wait until i hear the inevidable story about the player that turns up at the wrong ground for a match because he had forgotten which club he was being loyal this season and was looking at the wrong fixtures.:p

[Side Cutter]

Of course a club should have loyalty to its players. What I am saying is that it seems that players loyalty to a club is not important to some clubs . Players that move on mass from one club to another and are only representative of the club in name only.

Club =a group of persons organized for a social, literary, athletic, political, or other purpose
History = the record of past events and times, esp. in connection with the human race.
Nomads = A member of a group of people who have no fixed home and move according to the seasons from place to place

Not too busy today then first.;)

[platini]

todays results

newtown 3 kildysart 1
newmarket 2 rineanna 2

Newtown made hard work in seeing off Kildysart, Jamie Cullen got a great goal to put them 2 up. From there they struggled and when the visitors scored Newtown panicked. They brought on Bunny Carr in the middle of the park?? Strange decision, he is very over weight and Kildysart went straight through the middle.

To be honest a better side would have punished Newtown.

[Bossman]

www.claresoccer.net updated with fixtures and results

[CousinSylDolan]

LIMERICK DESMOND, KERRY, CLARE.

1 Rinenna Rvs v Tralee Utd.
2 Burren Utd v Tralee Cel.
3 Newcastle West v Newtown FC
4 Shanagolden FC v Moher Cel.
5 Avenue Utd v Castleisland FC
6 Adare Utd v Abbeyfeale Utd.
7 Inter Kenmare FC v Hermitage.

Games to be played on or before the weekending 15th/16th September 2007.

ROUND 2 LIMERICK DESMOND, KERRY, CLARE.

1 Ratoo Rvs v Knockaderry FC
2 Avenue Utd or Castleisland FC v Cratloe Cel.
3 Killeaney FC v Killarney Cel
4 Kildysart FC, v Kilrush Rgs.
5 Inter Kenmare FC or Hermitage v Kilcornan FC
6 Listowel Cel v Ballingarry FC
7 St Itas FC v Bridge Utd.
8 Bridge Cel v Newcastle West or Newtown FC
9 Tralee Dynamoes v Shanagolden FC or Moher Cel
10 Old Mill FC v Tulla Utd
11 Pallaskenry FC v Rinenna Rvs or Bridge Cel.
12 Shannon Olympic FC v Spa Road Cel
13 Newmarket Cel v Kildimo Utd
14 Carrig Cel v Killarney Ath.
15 Burren Utd or Tralee Cel v Adare Utd or Abbeyfeale Utd
16 Glin Rvs v Bunratty FC
17 Liselton Rvs v Glantine Rvs
18 St Brendans Park FC v Rathkeale Utd
19 Newcastle West FC v Corofin Harps FC
20 Rockmount Rvs v Foynes FC

[old git]

Newtown made hard work in seeing off Kildysart, Jamie Cullen got a great goal to put them 2 up. From there they struggled and when the visitors scored Newtown panicked. They brought on Bunny Carr in the middle of the park?? Strange decision, he is very over weight and Kildysart went straight through the middle.

To be honest a better side would have punished Newtown.

a bit harsh to blame bunny for newtowns panicking.. they gave the ball away to much and in fairness bunny did not waste to many passes but a few other players beside him & behind him went missing newtown lost their shape completly but still should have won it handy cheeky should have scored at least one of the great croses put in by johnny okura :ball:

[platini]

a bit harsh to blame bunny for newtowns panicking.. they gave the ball away to much and in fairness bunny did not waste to many passes but a few other players beside him & behind him went missing newtown lost their shape completly but still should have won it handy cheeky should have scored at least one of the great croses put in by johnny okura :ball:

Old git, Im not blaming Bunny for what went on, Im saying it was a strange decision by the management putting him in there, he is simply not fit enough for it, Newtown struggled with him in there.

[old git]

Old git, Im not blaming Bunny for what went on, Im saying it was a strange decision by the management putting him in there, he is simply not fit enough for it, Newtown struggled with him in there.
not blaming bunny.. yet they struggled with him in there ???
bunny should be playing with b team every week to help him get fit at least he would be getting full games and not brought on for last 30 mins ..
also players beside him did not help and defence was terrible for a while so it was not all bunnys fault .. :ball:

[First]

Lads cut out the Bunny baiting:)

[old git]

Lads cut out the Bunny baiting:)

i'm bunny defending :ball::ball:

[smellyfeet]

I was looking at results since the start of the season and noticed that Newmarket have 3 games played,all of them at home.Their next fixture is a home game aswell:confused:

Will this turn into a battle for them to get players available to play 4 away games at the end of the season.

Also, I know they have a new pitch and all but this can't be good for it, they have a B-Team and under age teams aswell who would use it aswell.

[First]

[QUOTE=CousinSylDolan;761835]LIMERICK DESMOND, KERRY, CLARE.

1 Rinenna Rvs v Tralee Utd.
2 Burren Utd v Tralee Cel.
5 Avenue Utd v Castleisland FC
7 Inter Kenmare FC v Hermitage.

Games to be played on or before the weekending 15th/16th September 2007.

good day to be playing kerry teams..all ireland final day


I bet these will be called off

[CousinSylDolan]

I was looking at results since the start of the season and noticed that Newmarket have 3 games played,all of them at home.Their next fixture is a home game aswell


Newmarket have played 2 games so far. The beat Lifford 2-0 at home and drew 2-2 with Rineanna away.

They are however home to Bridge Celtic on Thurs night and home to Avenue next Sunday.

[Side Cutter]

Newmarket have played 2 games so far. The beat Lifford 2-0 at home and drew 2-2 with Rineanna away.

They are however home to Bridge Celtic on Thurs night and home to Avenue next Sunday.

The game against rineanna was played in newmarket.Rineanna's pitch was unplayable so newmarket agreed to play at home.

[CousinSylDolan]

The game against rineanna was played in newmarket.Rineanna's pitch was unplayable so newmarket agreed to play at home.


I stand corrected... I did notice last week that you could bale hay out in Rineanna's pitch.

[First]

all tactics cousin syl all tactics...


Hacker , don't be delluding yourself, the pitch in Rineanna hasn't changed in I don't know how many years. Be careful that you don't become the Clare Leagues Dave Bassett and have the unenivable knack of having clubs relegated.

Were Rineanna not informed when the league was starting or were the cattle gone to mart.:rolleyes::)

[CousinSylDolan]

all tactics cousin syl all tactics...

I see...:D

Still undefeated after a trip to the champions and a trip to the village is a decent start...although I hear Newmarket got a very late equaliser last Sunday so ye might be dissapointed that yere 2 points is not 4.

[First]

all tactics cousin syl all tactics...

Will ye be showing the same courtesy to The Burren , Moher and Kildysart by playing yere home fixtures at their grounds.

No I didn't think so:rolleyes:

[CmonTheRovers]

Will ye be showing the same courtesy to The Burren , Moher and Kildysart by playing yere home fixtures at their grounds.

No I didn't think so:rolleyes:

ahem, First..... Was there not another team last season looking for matches to be played at other venues? Along with the pre-season (06-07) Holly tournament? Plus some youth games????

[First]

ahem, First..... Was there not another team last season looking for matches to be played at other venues? Along with the pre-season (06-07) Holly tournament? Plus some youth games????

Yes and it was appreciated , but wasn't there a very good reason.
As Hacker has alluded to is that the switch happened last week was for tactical reasons.

Gamesmanship is different.

[CmonTheRovers]

Yes and it was appreciated , but wasn't there a very good reason.
As Hacker has alluded to is that the switch happened last week was for tactical reasons.

Gamesmanship is different.

ah it was more down to the late harvest this summer, than tactical reasons really;)

[smellyfeet]

I drove past Rineanna pitch the other day aswell and it was poor. Whats the story, is it closed or something? The league is a few weeks old and that field is in terrible knick. Why was it let get like that in the first place. Does it not get cut during the summer. Just can't understand why it wasn't ready for the start of the season after all it is where the games are played:confused:

Maybe there is a good reason for it being the way it is,but if not its incredable:eek:

[plasticpitch]

anyone know where abouts liffords cassidy park is????????
handiest way to get there is drive out past the entrance to Lee's Road. U pass Drumcliff cemetery and Cassidy park is about 200yards after on the right... as the fella says ' ya can't miss it'

[Side Cutter]

I drove past Rineanna pitch the other day aswell and it was poor. Whats the story, is it closed or something? The league is a few weeks old and that field is in terrible knick. Why was it let get like that in the first place. Does it not get cut during the summer. Just can't understand why it wasn't ready for the start of the season after all it is where the games are played:confused:

Maybe there is a good reason for it being the way it is,but if not its incredable:eek:

Did you walk the pitch or did it just look in terrible nick as you were driving past? What exactly was wrong with it? The pitch is about 100 metres from the road:confused:

[old git]

Did you walk the pitch or did it just look in terrible nick as you were driving past? What exactly was wrong with it? The pitch is about 100 metres from the road:confused:

maybe he has excellent eyesight or binoculars :confused:

[smellyfeet]

:D
Did you walk the pitch or did it just look in terrible nick as you were driving past? What exactly was wrong with it? The pitch is about 100 metres from the road:confused:

Sorry but there was no way i was getting out of my car to walk a field:),anyway i was in a hurry. What i did see was a field with loads of long grass and i mean loads of long grass, loads of long greeny brown grass.

Did i mention that the grass was long.

[old git]

:D

Sorry but there was no way i was getting out of my car to walk a field:),anyway i was in a hurry. What i did see was a field with loads of long grass and i mean loads of long grass, loads of long greeny brown grass.

Did i mention that the grass was long.

may be part of a masterplan to ensure a lot of home games at end of season due to pitch being unplayable due to the long grass you keep talking about :ball:

[platini]

Bunratty 16/1??? Are you mad? Whrer on earth are you getting theses odds from?? Great come back from the Rats yesterday..Newtown were missing a load of players yesterday some youths called up to fill the voids, Avenue are very average.

Bunratty 3 Newtown 1, this evening, Newtown went 1 up from a penalty, Bunratty equalised from a penalty(Newtown had a man sent off for abusing referee) Newtown missed a penalty(strange decision to switch penalty taker). Bunratty pushed on from this and showed great fitness levels to overwhelm the 10 men.

Bunratty are moving along nicely and the odds of 16/1 if still on offer would be worth a flutter.

[MikeBassett]

Bunratty 3 Newtown 1, this evening, Newtown went 1 up from a penalty, Bunratty equalised from a penalty(Newtown had a man sent off for abusing referee) Newtown missed a penalty(strange decision to switch penalty taker). Bunratty pushed on from this and showed great fitness levels to overwhelm the 10 men.

Bunratty are moving along nicely and the odds of 16/1 if still on offer would be worth a flutter.

Not 16/1 anymore, they were at 8 the other day anyway

[Side Cutter]

Bunratty 3 Newtown 1, this evening, Newtown went 1 up from a penalty, Bunratty equalised from a penalty(Newtown had a man sent off for abusing referee) Newtown missed a penalty(strange decision to switch penalty taker). Bunratty pushed on from this and showed great fitness levels to overwhelm the 10 men.

Bunratty are moving along nicely and the odds of 16/1 if still on offer would be worth a flutter.

Good game to watch alot of nice football.To be honest the game was very tight until newtown got a player sent off.Just cant understand why Jay took newtowns first penalty and scored and didnt take the second one.

[CousinSylDolan]

3 penalties awarded in the game and none of them should have been penalties. Do Newtown put much time in to practising diving in training cos it won them 2 penalties last night. He has it down to a tee that young fella.;) Although I must say the penalty Bunratty got was no penalty either. Ball struck a hand alright but was no way intentional. This decision led to the sending off which I felt was the turning point.
Bunratty defender very lucky to stay on the field for pull shirt of J OK but got back to make a great tackle... Newtown could argue I suppose this was the turning point.
Have to agree it was a small bit strange changing penalty taker but easy say that now. Cheeky would score 9 out of 10 from them.
Good game though and typical of these 2 teams.
Never heard so much bickering from the line to a referee... Maybe this was the reason for 3 spotters that were'nt...

Anyway on to the next game for both teams. Tough one for Bunratty away to Moher...and Newtown travel to Lifford without Derek B.

[old git]

3 penalties awarded in the game and none of them should have been penalties. Do Newtown put much time in to practising diving in training cos it won them 2 penalties last night. He has it down to a tee that young fella.;) Although I must say the penalty Bunratty got was no penalty either. Ball struck a hand alright but was no way intentional. This decision led to the sending off which I felt was the turning point.
Bunratty defender very lucky to stay on the field for pull shirt of J OK but got back to make a great tackle... Newtown could argue I suppose this was the turning point.
Have to agree it was a small bit strange changing penalty taker but easy say that now. Cheeky would score 9 out of 10 from them.
Good game though and typical of these 2 teams.
Never heard so much bickering from the line to a referee... Maybe this was the reason for 3 spotters that were'nt...

Anyway on to the next game for both teams. Tough one for Bunratty away to Moher...and Newtown travel to Lifford without Derek B.


what young fella kept falling over in the bunratty box ... who took first penalty . i does seem a bit strange changing penalty taker after he scored first one . good result for bunratty in the end and a bad start to season so far for newtown .. :ball:

[platini]

what young fella kept falling over in the bunratty box ... who took first penalty . i does seem a bit strange changing penalty taker after he scored first one . good result for bunratty in the end and a bad start to season so far for newtown .. :ball:

Think it was cheeky going down in the box(apologies to the lad if im wrong). Jason Stretton hit first spot kick. Cheeky hit second.

[Ice-man]

Wednesday's Results:

Lifford 5 - 0 Rineanna

Hacker, what went wrong ?