Clare League 2007/08

[Clifford]

does anyone know is there a rule about playing 3 games in six days? why have avenue got to play thurs, sunday and then again tues. then have to wait at least sunday week for final game v nwkt. by the time tuesday game v rineanna most will only be at aound 70%. its a proven fact and that they are also more open for serious injury. i know club asked lydon and even came up wth a solution. let lifford play rineanna on tues and avenue play them tues/ wed/thurs the following week (r even give us till thursday). u can guess his answer. do u want to be fix sec. etc. u train ur balls off for the year and then clowns running the league lob this at you. if they had two brains they'd be twice as thick.

[myleftfoot]

Its absolutely crazy to ask players to play 3 games like that. Professionals wouldnt do it. You are just asking for injuries.
I thought you were supposed to be allowed at least 3 days rest between games. But when did the Clare league concern themselves about players. They do the same with underage teams too.
If its any consolation Newtown have the same fixture list as ye and Bunratty have it even worse playing Friday Sunday and again on Tuesday. They wont have 11 players fit for the Cup semi after this weekend.

[CousinSylDolan]

does anyone know is there a rule about playing 3 games in six days? why have avenue got to play thurs, sunday and then again tues. then have to wait at least sunday week for final game v nwkt. by the time tuesday game v rineanna most will only be at aound 70%. its a proven fact and that they are also more open for serious injury. i know club asked lydon and even came up wth a solution. let lifford play rineanna on tues and avenue play them tues/ wed/thurs the following week (r even give us till thursday). u can guess his answer. do u want to be fix sec. etc. u train ur balls off for the year and then clowns running the league lob this at you. if they had two brains they'd be twice as thick.

Bunratty play 3 games in 5 days so thats even worse...

Main problem for lg is referee's availability... Some are available some nights and not others and this is just a fact of life as they have jobs ect too. If lg had 15 refs available every day then we would have no problems.

Also Moher, who we play Friday wont play any game midweek. They only play Friday's and Sunday's so lg are tied down here too.

Lets not lay all the blame on M Lydon's door as in fairness he has a very tough job which he does better than anyone else could, imo....

Any predictions for tonight????

TCFKAN 1-1 Avenue
Bridge Celtic 2-2 Newmarket

(for those of you confused... TCFKAN--- The Club Formerly Known As Newtown.;))

[LazyLegs]

Newmarket 3-0 Bridge Celtic from what i hear

[the only 1]

Newmarket 3-0 Bridge Celtic from what i hear

any updated table?

[Abbey Road]

Rumour has it John Kelly will be Dermot Finnan's right hand man next year over Park FC!!
Any truth guys???:o

[smellyfeet]

Rumour has it John Kelly will be Dermot Finnan's right hand man next year over Park FC!!
Any truth guys???:o

Ya thats deffinately the truth. Rumour closed.

[CousinSylDolan]

Good win for Newmarket again last night. Very consistent in the lg. Only 1 defeat says it all really.

When was the last time they won the Premier lg?

[smellyfeet]

Good win for Newmarket again last night. Very consistent in the lg. Only 1 defeat says it all really.

When was the last time they won the Premier lg?

1995 was the last time. They are due one. They have one hand on it but 3 games left and anything can happen.

Anyone at the Newtown Avenue game.

[papa-j]

1995 was the last time. They are due one. They have one hand on it but 3 games left and anything can happen.

Anyone at the Newtown Avenue game.

Newmarket definately the strongest team this year. But they need to finish the job now.

Newtown v Avenue was a decent game. Avenue never really created anything only threat was from corners and free kicks, they have a big physical team. Newtown created the better chances and probably should have nicked the win.

[out red]

Bridge Celtic 0 Newmarket 3

Goals scored by Eoin Hayes 2 and jamie egan, both youths. was a very physical game and ref bottled about 4 straight red card for bridge celtic players. lads its not sour grapes as we won the game but how somebody didint get seriously hurt last night i will never know. it seems bridge are intent on kicking lumps out of teams to try and avoid the drop.

[2legged tackle]

Cant really see Newtown goin down below Bridge Celtic. I know Newtown would rather have the points rather than the games but I think they looked strong enough to stay up.(not that it matters) The league is as good as Newmarkets imo as Avenue didn't seem up to much at all.

[smellyfeet]

Bridge Celtic 0 Newmarket 3

Goals scored by Eoin Hayes 2 and jamie egan, both youths. was a very physical game and ref bottled about 4 straight red card for bridge celtic players. lads its not sour grapes as we won the game but how somebody didint get seriously hurt last night i will never know. it seems bridge are intent on kicking lumps out of teams to try and avoid the drop.

I heard the same. The simple way to deal with that sort of player is to book him for first dirty tackle, warn him that next 1 will be red, if he does it again then send him off. Keep doing it if it has to be like that. Its the only way.

[Abbey Road]

Ya thats deffinately the truth. Rumour closed.

On a serious note Smellyfeet!!Do you think Dermot Finnan will be the Park FC manager next year??With the likely influx of players from Newtown do you think Park FC will be a force again like they were a few years back??:ball:

[myleftfoot]

Cant really see Newtown goin down below Bridge Celtic. I know Newtown would rather have the points rather than the games but I think they looked strong enough to stay up.(not that it matters) The league is as good as Newmarkets imo as Avenue didn't seem up to much at all.

Have to agree. If i were a bookie id be paying out on Newmarket now. I think the real battle will be at the bottom to see who goes down with Kildysart directly or through a playoff. Bunratty & newtown have the advantage with games in hand but both have 3 games over a few days and they will be knackered by the third game on Tuesday. Newtown have two six pointers with Bridge Celtic and Burren. Bunratty will beat Kildysart on Sunday but after playing Friday and Sunday they wont be able for Newmarket probably the fittest team in the league. IMO Bridge Celtic running out of games so they really have to beat Newtown or they will go down.

[bigguy]

On a serious note Smellyfeet!!Do you think Dermot Finnan will be the Park FC manager next year??With the likely influx of players from Newtown do you think Park FC will be a force again like they were a few years back??:ball:

I know the quetion was not for me, but, are Newtown going to be happy paying a manager? i can only presume the topic arose....the players are in shannon all the time to be a force, i think its motivation is the key..back a few years niell o brien (nobber) had them enjoying there game.and not getting payed and won a couple of cups..personaly i wouldnt pay a manager so finnan would walk..

[Abbey Road]

Surely the likes of Philip Purcell and Davy Wall(if he leaves his beloved Pike of course) would consider signing for Park FC!
As for Dermot Finnan,his record speaks for itself!

[out red]

hacker any word when your game with lifford is going to be refixed? have been told all league games to be wrapped up by 11th of may

[CousinSylDolan]

Bunratty 2-1 Moher.

Close game. Could have gone either way.

[myleftfoot]

i pressume midweek after cup semi's..as i think we are playing burren last game on the 11th..have avenue this week first so thats all were thinking about..3 points here should see us safe

I wouldnt bet on the fixtures on the 11th going ahead at all. Newmarket should beat Burren and could have the league wrapped up on the bank holiday weekend (could be some weekend in the cusack stand) Depending on results over the next week relegation places could well be decided by then too. I doubt if too many teams would bother with the last round of games if everything is already decided.

First division relegation battle could go all the way though. Kilmaley & Tage in trouble. Rock have games in hand but the cup could be a big distraction. As for the title Bridge have the points on the board but my moneys on corofin who have games in hand and being out of the cup could help them.

Second division still close but turnpike in pole position. Rhine Rovers running away with the third division. They have an incredible record. Does anyone know what the Clare League all time points and goals scored record is? Are Rhine close to it?? Undefeated with an average of 4 goals per game is unbelievable.

[bigguy]

Surely the likes of Philip Purcell and Davy Wall(if he leaves his beloved Pike of course) would consider signing for Park FC!
As for Dermot Finnan,his record speaks for itself!

His record is a great one yes..but with one club, has he produces anything like his record with anyother club he has been with??.records apart, what i said was if he wasnt to be paid do you think hed stay because he likes the lads??:rolleyes:

[Bossman]

www.claresoccer.net updated

[Ice-man]

Kildysart have surely set a new record for been relegated with minus points?

Bit of a joke really.

[old git]

Kildysart have surely set a new record for been relegated with minus points?

Bit of a joke really.

they should be thrown out of league and banned from re-entering next year :ball: a disgrace that the 2 walkovers they gave could result in one team winning league title & the other being saved from relegation dogfight its a long hard season for all teams involved and for other teams to suffer for kildysart giving walkovers it makes a mockery of the league :mad:

[shanman2]

What happens if Newtown do not enter the league next year?
Does another team get promoted or do they drop the number of teams to be relegated?

[myleftfoot]

if they give newtown a walkover in their last game they will be thrown out and the points they won will be given back to teams they took points off..so can't see them giving a walkover again.

If that happened then Burren & Rineanna would get extra points (& newtown obviously) That would really change things at the bottom and drag a lot more teams down towards the relegation places.
There is also a rumour going round that Bridge Celtic could get points from Lifford game because of an illegal player issue. (is there any truth in this?? i heard it from several sources last wk)
If all of the above happened it would make the league a complete farce. It would mean Promotion/relegation could be decided by committee meetings rather than on the pitch.

[old git]

If that happened then Burren & Rineanna would get extra points (& newtown obviously) That would really change things at the bottom and drag a lot more teams down towards the relegation places.
There is also a rumour going round that Bridge Celtic could get points from Lifford game because of an illegal player issue. (is there any truth in this?? i heard it from several sources last wk)
If all of the above happened it would make the league a complete farce. It would mean Promotion/relegation could be decided by committee meetings rather than on the pitch.

and if the rumours / stories about newtown are true and they are no longer in clare league next year this will surely effect relegation issue
also .. :confused:

[myleftfoot]

If the story about bridge celtic being awarded the points from Lifford game is correct :ball:that also means Newmarket could be crowned champions tomorrow night if they beat Bunratty and Avenue fail to beat Rineanna.

[Clifford]

breaking news

avenue in their quest to get their own home ground has brought them close to gort off the bypass. in prem talks with gort to ground share and enter galway leagues to compete against mervue and salthill devon.

ps lifford wont have any points taken off them as theres one rule for some teams and a different for the elite. wink wink nudge nudge. did the ruling on other teamwho did the same take as long????????

[Wayne's World]

3 big games tomorrow night. Newtown versus the Burren with both teams desperate for the win. If newtown win it will put them level with Rineanna if they don't get anything off Avenue.

Avenue cant afford to drop any points in their last two games. Newmarket and Bunratty should be a close game. Newmarket going for the league but their neighbours are in a rich vein of form.

I can't see Bridge been awarded the points as Clifford said it's been a while since the alleged incident and nothing has come of it. 2 weeks left and 2 relegation places to be finalised, a lot of teams are 1win from safety.

[avenueC]

the illegal player got one extra game ban FOR playing while suspended, so if thats the case and lifford dont get dropped points what tha point in playing if lifford get preferential treatment off the clare league all beacuse they are tied in with em with the leagur of ireland 21's its bullsh*t to be honest, they wont deduct points likethey should because they cant upset them for the above reason and want them to win the league
the 2 sent off vs avenue got 5 games between them

[myleftfoot]

breaking news

avenue in their quest to get their own home ground has brought them close to gort off the bypass. in prem talks with gort to ground share and enter galway leagues to compete against mervue and salthill devon.

ps lifford wont have any points taken off them as theres one rule for some teams and a different for the elite. wink wink nudge nudge. did the ruling on other teamwho did the same take as long????????

Who was the other team that did the same??????

[myleftfoot]

the illegal player got one extra game ban FOR playing while suspended, so if thats the case and lifford dont get dropped points what tha point in playing if lifford get preferential treatment off the clare league all beacuse they are tied in with em with the leagur of ireland 21's its bullsh*t to be honest, they wont deduct points likethey should because they cant upset them for the above reason and want them to win the league
the 2 sent off vs avenue got 5 games between them

It will all be irrelevant cos Newmarket can win the league by taking the 6pts from their next 2 games at home and their current form suggests they should. I dont think Newmarket will care at that stage if Lifford have 3 extra pts or not.

[avenueC]

P W D L PTS
Newmarket Cel 15 11 3 1 36
Avenue Utd ....16 10 4 2 34
Lifford ... .......15 10 2 3 32

but,, if they drew the derby an lost to avenue then lifford could win the leauge

lots of ifs and buts,, possible
would newmarket object then if the table stood like this at the end.. ie avnue beat newmarket last game of season and hand lifford the title

Lifford ... .......18 13 2 3 41
Avenue Utd ....18 12 4 2 40
Newmarket Cel 18 12 4 40

[LazyLegs]

How do ye see the league shaping up lads.Do ye see newmarket slipping up or lifford and avenue dropping points? very exciting times at the top of the league.on the other side it is also difficult to predict.Burren to go straight down with newtown in the playoff position.any other in agreement?

[out red]

P W D L PTS
Newmarket Cel 15 11 3 1 36
Avenue Utd ....16 10 4 2 34
Lifford ... .......15 10 2 3 32

but,, if they drew the derby an lost to avenue then lifford could win the leauge

lots of ifs and buts,, possible
would newmarket object then if the table stood like this at the end.. ie avnue beat newmarket last game of season and hand lifford the title

Lifford ... .......18 13 2 3 41
Avenue Utd ....18 12 4 2 40
Newmarket Cel 18 12 4 40

lads can we put this illegal player stuff to bed. nmkt wont b complaining if lifford win the league as they will have deserved it. bridge celtic are the only club this really affected so if it doesnt bother them let it go.

[out red]

lads anyone know who won the team of the month for march and april :confused: Rhine rovers again??

[Ice-man]

I hear Bunratty are playing there B team tomorrow with the semi final this Sunday and already been safe from relegation ?

It should be a handy one for Newmarket.

[plasticpitch]

lads can we put this illegal player stuff to bed. nmkt wont b complaining if lifford win the league as they will have deserved it. bridge celtic are the only club this really affected so if it doesnt bother them let it go.
its just sour grapes from avenue c and clifford who both happen to be avenue.. murphman(BC) who does be on this site has not even posted about it.
all the same it keeps the thread interesting:p

[plasticpitch]

the illegal player got one extra game ban FOR playing while suspended, so if thats the case and lifford dont get dropped points what tha point in playing if lifford get preferential treatment off the clare league all beacuse they are tied in with em with the leagur of ireland 21's its bullsh*t to be honest, they wont deduct points likethey should because they cant upset them for the above reason and want them to win the league
the 2 sent off vs avenue got 5 games between them
so wheres your proof??
BTW ..any sign of avenue getting their own ground???.:D

[plasticpitch]

[QUOTE=Clifford;930923]breaking news

avenue in their quest to get their own home ground has brought them close to gort off the bypass. in prem talks with gort to ground share and enter galway leagues to compete against mervue and salthill devon.

QUOTE]
division 1B of the galway league so for avenue

[Ice-man]

lads anyone know who won the team of the month for march and april :confused: Rhine rovers again??

Newmarket, only 1 loss says it all.
Bunratty, beating Avenue (Cup & League), Lifford (Cup), and getting out of relegation by winning 6 in a row, they are in great form.
Bridge United, top of the 1st Div.

Rhine rovers should not win it, mickey mouse league from what I've seen. You just need to be sober to win that League!

What do you win if you win it?

[shelbourne1904]

Newmarket, only 1 loss says it all.
Bunratty, beating Avenue (Cup & League), Lifford (Cup), and getting out of relegation by winning 6 in a row, they are in great form.
Bridge United, top of the 1st Div.

Rhine rovers should not win it, mickey mouse league from what I've seen. You just need to be sober to win that League!

What do you win if you win it?

What about Newtown under17s

Payed 10 won 9 scored 38 conceded 7.League won with 2 games to go.In cup semis.?????

[out red]

I hear Bunratty are playing there B team tomorrow with the semi final this Sunday and already been safe from relegation ?

It should be a handy one for Newmarket.

handy for newmarket?? dont make us laugh. theirs alot of kevin keegan talk down in bunratty "id love if we beat them" and all that. as for resting players i think u are mixing bunratty up with other clubs as they like urselves dont hand titles to anybody. so stop stirrring as this game doesnt need it one bit. should b a cracker:ball::ball:

[avenueC]

plastic pitch, wheres my proof of what?
at the clare league meeting last nite the player got an extra game suspension precisely for being illegal after being sent off
how do u want more proof then that? it was at the meeeting, not some word of mouth chinese whisper.

as for team of the month, it must show how highly ye respect avenue if ye gave it to bunratty for beating them in league and cup..

i doubt highly that bunratty will put out a b team against nwmrkt,, pride has a lot to do with playing against close neighbours, unlike some clubs who, with nothing to play for just fold....

[CousinSylDolan]

Bunratty need a point to secure their place in the Premier next season so any talk of resting players is rubbish.

Should be a good game tonight. This is Bunratty's 3rd visit to McDonagh Park this season and they have had 1 win (4-1 in the FAI) and 1 defeat (2-1 in the lg). May the best team win tonight!!!!!

[out red]

hacker how are ye fixed for tonight. do you think there will be any chance of a favour;)

[out red]

Bunratty need a point to secure their place in the Premier next season so any talk of resting players is rubbish.

Should be a good game tonight. This is Bunratty's 3rd visit to McDonagh Park this season and they have had 1 win (4-1 in the FAI) and 1 defeat (2-1 in the lg). May the best team win tonight!!!!!

sly ur forgitting ye beat nwmkt in the tournament final as well. makes ye favourites tonight?

[Murphman]

its just sour grapes from avenue c and clifford who both happen to be avenue.. murphman(BC) who does be on this site has not even posted about it.
all the same it keeps the thread interesting:p

Lads, as regards the illegal player - it definetely looks like one rule for some clubs and a different batch of rules for others. We've already had this illegal
player rule imposed on us - it was an honest mistake and we took the punishment by being thrown out of the cup, as unjust as we may have seen it.... so if there is justice, Lifford should suffer punishment for a mistake whether or not they ment it.. If it takes weeks to sort this out then fair enough but it just shows why some clubs are leaving the Clare league, with this blatent disregard for clubs in Clare who work extremely hard to build a club with several teams/amenities etc only to be knocked down with politics...

For newtown and perhaps other clubs that may be leaving the clare league, best of luck and we hope to meet ye again in a munster Junior or FAi cup, its been a pleasure doing battle with ye - we hope to carry on in the prem but if its in the first div so be it.

[old git]

Lads, as regards the illegal player - it definetely looks like one rule for some clubs and a different batch of rules for others. We've already had this illegal
player rule imposed on us - it was an honest mistake and we took the punishment by being thrown out of the cup, as unjust as we may have seen it.... so if there is justice, Lifford should suffer punishment for a mistake whether or not they ment it.. If it takes weeks to sort this out then fair enough but it just shows why some clubs are leaving the Clare league, with this blatent disregard for clubs in Clare who work extremely hard to build a club with several teams/amenities etc only to be knocked down with politics...



For newtown and perhaps other clubs that may be leaving the clare league, best of luck and we hope to meet ye again in a munster Junior or FAi cup, its been a pleasure doing battle with ye - we hope to carry on in the prem but if its in the first div so be it.

well said murphman.. and knowing you bridgetown lads if you are unlucky to get relegated this year you will bounce back stronger next year best of luck for the last few games ..:ball: