Clare League 2007/08

[Avenue1990]

Avenue v Kildysert - home win
Newtown v Bridge Celtic - home win
Burren v Lifford - Away win
Moher v Newmarket - Home win
Bunratty v Rineanna - home win

Avenue back on top after the weekend. Whats yer views on the relegation battle?

[the only 1]

darly eade playing well with avenue?

[Wayne's World]

Avenue v Kildysert - home win
Newtown v Bridge Celtic - home win
Burren v Lifford - Away win
Moher v Newmarket - Home win
Bunratty v Rineanna - home win

Avenue back on top after the weekend. Whats yer views on the relegation battle?

The relegation battle is going to be one of the closest in years by the looks of things.

I have been away for a while but apart from the top 3 everyone else seems to be involved.

Burren, Moher and Bunratty are all playing at home the weekend and will be looking for 3 points but everone is scrapping for results so I don't think any of the teams will have it easy.

Newtown ( going on their cup runs ) look to be the strongest of the sides down there and will probably be the more confident of all the sides of getting out of trouble.

Will the curse that hit Bridge Utd last year hit Bridge Cel this year and get relegated after winning the Premier?

[smellyfeet]

Will the curse that hit Bridge Utd last year hit Bridge Cel this year and get relegated after winning the Premier?[/QUOTE]


This happened to Newtown last time they league was won. I know the year after they won it, most of the squad left and had to field B-team players that couldn't get a game with the B-team.
Not saying that Bridge Celtic will go down this year but
is the same problem happening out in Bridge Town.

[LazyLegs]

Avenue v Kildysert - home win
Newtown v Bridge Celtic - home win
Burren v Lifford - Away win
Moher v Newmarket - away win
Bunratty v Rineanna - draw

Reckon its too hard to call between lifford,avenue and newmarket for the title but they will make up the final 3 come the end of the season.

newtown will finish fourth in my opinion and could have been a title challenger had they not dropped needless points

As for the relegation side of the league, i agree that it will be tight but i can see kildysart and burren going straight down with bunratty in the play-off.

[Avenue1990]

I would just like to congratulate Rhine rovers on winning the clare leagues team of the month for February. Just incase ye might think i was a bit down on them last week before cup game against Avenue:rolleyes:

[Avenue1990]

"Reckon its too hard to call between lifford,avenue and newmarket for the title but they will make up the final 3 come the end of the season."

1st Avenue, 2nd Lifford, 3rd Newmarket

newtown will finish fourth in my opinion and could have been a title challenger had they not dropped needless points - true

As for the relegation side of the league, i agree that it will be tight but i can see kildysart and burren going straight down with bunratty in the play-off. - agreed

[tulla b]

I would just like to congratulate Rhine rovers on winning the clare leagues team of the month for February. Just incase ye might think i was a bit down on them last week before cup game against Avenue:rolleyes:

how is this judged!!! jst checking the clare league site and it seems they won 2 games in feb. much more worthy winners out there if you ask me.
newtown for their cup run
avenue/newmarket for staying unbeaten, or even rock for knocking newtown out of the cup

[guvnor]

how is this judged!!! jst checking the clare league site and it seems they won 2 games in feb. much more worthy winners out there if you ask me.
newtown for their cup run
avenue/newmarket for staying unbeaten, or even rock for knocking newtown out of the cup

or even Tulla for getting into next round of the cup;);)

[Interested]

how is this judged!!! jst checking the clare league site and it seems they won 2 games in feb. much more worthy winners out there if you ask me.
newtown for their cup run
avenue/newmarket for staying unbeaten, or even rock for knocking newtown out of the cup

Afraid I have to agree with you tulla b.
If it is as the award suggests a team of the month then what is the criteria for winning it. I won't take anything away from Rhine Rovers who have had a phenominal season and are probably the most improved team in the whole league and deserve any accolades that come their way.
Do the clubs know what is needed to win this award? I think not.
Glad that its not just for the top teams though but would like to know how its judged if anyone out there knows.

[avenueC]

didnt know teams could get team of the month
no offence to rhine but scoring 6 and 7 goals against other b teams shouldnt constitute gettin the award, newtown prob deserved their cup runs.
as for the weekend d say the weather is gonna spoil the games if they even go ahead

[LazyLegs]

Ya have to agree with you Avenue.Like surely newmarkets unbeaten run of about ten games or Avenues unbeaten run of five would be enough for a team of the month award. Would probably rule newtown out seeing as they have suffered three defeats on the bounce but their cup form was a credit to the league. So what is the criteria for winning the award? Is it two wins or ten? And is it decided by delegates who probably havent seen Rhine play this year apart from Avenue when they were beaten well.

[mr miyagi]

how is this judged!!! jst checking the clare league site and it seems they won 2 games in feb. much more worthy winners out there if you ask me.
newtown for their cup run
avenue/newmarket for staying unbeaten, or even rock for knocking newtown out of the cup

Probably the manner of the victories...
They did beat Newmarket B 8-2....

[offside01]

All vaild points with regard to the team of the month. To be fair to the Rhine lads they do deserve the award for the season they have had so far and although avenue and newmarket are flyin it they'll be in the shake up for major awards at the end of the season anyway. I'm a bit suprised our b team didnt get a mention(Corofin) as they beat the premier league champs in their own back yard in the cup and are unbeaten the whole month.

[myleftfoot]

All vaild points with regard to the team of the month. To be fair to the Rhine lads they do deserve the award for the season they have had so far and although avenue and newmarket are flyin it they'll be in the shake up for major awards at the end of the season anyway. I'm a bit suprised our b team didnt get a mention(Corofin) as they beat the premier league champs in their own back yard in the cup and are unbeaten the whole month.

Rhine deserve credit for a great league run fair play to them and its great to see the smaller clubs getting something for a change.

But surely the award should go to Newtown - the only club flying the clare flag in munster. The aim of the clare league should be for clare clubs to make their mark in munster/fai - thats where the real standard of clare club football is judged.
The quality of Rhines opposition can only be judged by the fact that they are in the bottom division of a league that makes no impression in national & munster junior club cups. Its obvious from the success in the Oscar Traynor competition that there are individual players in the county up to the standard but not any one club squad.

If you are going to go on performances in Clare then Newmarket have had a great run and went top of the league which on current form makes them the best in the county.

[Avenue1990]

"If you are going to go on performances in Clare then Newmarket have had a great run and went top of the league which on current form makes them the best in the county. "

True - Newmarket deserve the award as its their first time on top of the premier league in Clare since the late 1990s id say!!:p

[mr miyagi]

True - Newmarket deserve the award as its their first time on top of the premier league in Clare since the late 1990s id say!!:p

Bitter ? :rolleyes:

[Avenue1990]

"Bitter"

Not in the slightest. Let them have their time in the limelight.They have waited long enough for it! Normality will be resumed soon enough ie. avenue back on top

[MikeBassett]

dont think rhine should have got team of the month really.there was better canditates out there.

its a lot easier to stay unbeaten and score lots of goals in the third division than it is the premier

[old git]

dont think rhine should have got team of the month really.there was better canditates out there.

its a lot easier to stay unbeaten and score lots of goals in the third division than it is the premier


they are still the only unbeaten team in the clare league and this is a great achivement for any team no matter what division they are in,, don't forget the mighty avenue started of in the lower divisions not so long ago and quickly worked there way up the leagues in a short few years.. will also add yes there are other teams out their also worthy of winning this award would be very intrested to know what is needed to win this monthly award & who actually makes decision on who wins it.... don't forget there are other leagues & teams outside of the preimer league and they are entiltled to to win these awards bottom line is any club out there would rather win their own league than these awrds at the end of the day :ball::ball:

[Bossman]

www.claresoccer.net updated

[Interested]

just saw this on clare league website kilmaley united changed there name to kilmaley fern celtic..
does anyone know if this is allowed??..surely you can't just change the name of your club like this in the middle of the season..
does this mean kilmaley united are no more????
which means kilmaley fern CELTIC should now be in the 3rd division???

I think that everyone involved in Football in Clare accepts the fact that Fern Celtic were the Schoolboy section of Kilmaley United. I don't know why the Schoolboys and Junior teams were called differant names, could be something to do with administration. I do know that one of the many guiding hands at Fern Celtic is Timmy Healy, a very staunch Kilmaley man for quite a few years now and the son of Mr. Kilmaley United Frank.
I don't know the ruling on teams changing their name during the season but your comment that Kilmaley Fern Celtic should now be in the 3rd Division is a bit far fetched. I know your reasoning behind the statement i.e. Kilmaley Fern Celtic are now a new club and should therefore start at the lowest division in the League but Corofin Harps didn't drop a couple of divisions when they changed their name a few seasons ago and though that is a recent memory I am sure that other teams have changed their names over the course of their existance if you go back far enough.
Anyone involved in Schoolboy Football (shelbourne) will acknowledge the fact that Fern Celtic have made huge strides forward in the Schoolboy section both on the field and off it and any of that success which can be harnessed to Kilmaley United can only be good for both Kilmaley and Football in general.

[tulla b]

I think that everyone involved in Football in Clare accepts the fact that Fern Celtic were the Schoolboy section of Kilmaley United. I don't know why the Schoolboys and Junior teams were called differant names, could be something to do with administration. I do know that one of the many guiding hands at Fern Celtic is Timmy Healy, a very staunch Kilmaley man for quite a few years now and the son of Mr. Kilmaley United Frank.
I don't know the ruling on teams changing their name during the season but your comment that Kilmaley Fern Celtic should now be in the 3rd Division is a bit far fetched. I know your reasoning behind the statement i.e. Kilmaley Fern Celtic are now a new club and should therefore start at the lowest division in the League but Corofin Harps didn't drop a couple of divisions when they changed their name a few seasons ago and though that is a recent memory I am sure that other teams have changed their names over the course of their existance if you go back far enough.
Anyone involved in Schoolboy Football (shelbourne) will acknowledge the fact that Fern Celtic have made huge strides forward in the Schoolboy section both on the field and off it and any of that success which can be harnessed to Kilmaley United can only be good for both Kilmaley and Football in general.

Nice try interested. drop them to the 3rd division:D

[old git]

Nice try interested. drop them to the 3rd division:D

no chance with frank heally involved i am surprised they did not get moved up to the preimier league :D:

seems a bit strange alright to change name mid season ....:ball:

[Wayne's World]

Cup the weekend,

Prediction time.

TULLA UTD V LIFFORD A ( Away win )
RINEANNA ROVERS V NEWMARKET CELTIC A ( Home win after AET )
BUNRATTY A V AVENUE UTD A ( Home win )
MOUNTSHANNON CELTIC V MOHER CELTIC A ( Home win after AET )
TURNPIKE ROVERS V HERMITAGE A ( Away win )
ROCK ROVERS V SHANNON OLYMPIC A ( Home win )
NEWTOWN B V COROFIN HARPS B ( Away win )
COROFIN HARPS A V KILRUSH RANGERS ( Home win )

Predicting 3 away wins, at this stage of the competition I think home advantage is a big factor. 6 premier teams left in the last 16 with at least 2 falling this round.

Quarter finals after this and most if not all teams through after the weekend will be confident of going all the way.

[avenueC]

u tink this weekends cup is gonna follow the pattern of last weeks f.a cup games an the top 2 in the premier going out
doubtful

[Wayne's World]

u tink this weekends cup is gonna follow the pattern of last weeks f.a cup games an the top 2 in the premier going out
doubtful

Anything is possible especially in the cup.

Can't understand bunratty's poor league position but they have the ability to beat any team on the day.

I don't think any team would fancy going to Rineanna, even Moher have a tough game in Mountshannon.

When it comes to the cup i think that you can't write off any team especially the ones at home.

[avenueC]

games are gonna be called off anyway id say

[LazyLegs]

Wats going to happen is that rineanna will lose home advantage because of bad weather.Agree that home advantage will be a major factor but i cant see the rats pullin a win out of the hat.waynes world says that they can beat anyone on their day but the only time they have managed that is against newtown.

[avenueC]

if clare league call off all games then it doesnt matter they wont have to lose home advantage

[MikeBassett]

if clare league call off all games then it doesnt matter they wont have to lose home advantage

not sure about that now...in the youths cup 1st round this year the league called off all the games the first day and the next day the venues were switched around

[MikeBassett]

also i believe rats missing a few(3 or 4) next weekend so any chance of an upset will be made harder...

not the first time ive seen this on here,i spose its football again this time. bunratty will need a full/near full squad to cause an upset, dont know why teams tolerate players goin off to play football whenever they want or when its on and still play these half committed players.

i hate to say it but avenue shudn't have much trouble now but you never know

[old git]

[QUOTE=vidic-class;896562]not the first time ive seen this on here,i spose its football again this time. bunratty will need a full/near full squad to cause an upset, dont know why teams tolerate players goin off to play football whenever they want or when its on and still play these half committed players.

i hate to say it but avenue shudn't have much trouble now but you never know[.................................................. .......


no sympathy for them they knew the situation with certain players committed to playing other sports when they signed them ... rather than give 100 % to bunratty they are letting club & fellow players down if i was a manager i would not be intrested in signing any of these players .. but if bunratty have such a big talented squad they should also be able to cope with 3-4 players missing :ball:

[Side Cutter]

[QUOTE=vidic-class;896562]not the first time ive seen this on here,i spose its football again this time. bunratty will need a full/near full squad to cause an upset, dont know why teams tolerate players goin off to play football whenever they want or when its on and still play these half committed players.

i hate to say it but avenue shudn't have much trouble now but you never know[.................................................. .......


no sympathy for them they knew the situation with certain players committed to playing other sports when they signed them ... rather than give 100 % to bunratty they are letting club & fellow players down if i was a manager i would not be intrested in signing any of these players .. but if bunratty have such a big talented squad they should also be able to cope with 3-4 players missing :ball:

So old git would you say if you were the manager of newtown, you would not be interested in signing noel donnelon because he went off playing gaa instead of a newtown match?Also would you say he has let his club and fellow players down?? I dont think so.....

[smellyfeet]

Its an unfair on teams that play teams early on in the league with full panel.

Then other teams have to play them when they are under strength.

[avenueC]

the gaa has only started , theres only a few weeks left in teh soccer season , football games are on a saturday so i cant see it having too much of any an affect on most teams.... newmarket an lifford dont have any gaa players so they are the most fortunate

[Side Cutter]

the gaa has only started , theres only a few weeks left in teh soccer season , football games are on a saturday so i cant see it having too much of any an affect on most teams.... newmarket an lifford dont have any gaa players so they are the most fortunate

Newmarket have plenty of gaa players....

[tulla b]

Newmarket have plenty of gaa players....

thats for sure Avenue C u obviously never played against there junior b hurling team :D

[Avenue1990]

Is this talk of bunratty missing players just a wind up a few days before the game?? As i said already reagarding this game bunratty have a lot of good players but if we play to our potential we will progress.

[LazyLegs]

Lads, the rule is simple. if rineanna are unable to play at home because of their pitch and newmarkets pitch is playable then the tie will go ahead in newmarket.however, if both pitches are unplayable then the home team i.e rineanna will not lose home advantage.what i dont understand is that who has the authority to decide whether a game should go ahead.

On the note of dual players, i think bunratty made the mistake of relying too much on players that prefer other codes.in newtowns case, noel donnelan missed maybe three games but the difference is that they have someone to replace him when he is out.that is where managers must be cautious when signing players.

[guvnor]

If the clare league call off all games across the board this weekend, all home teams will have another opportunity to have the deferred game played at their pitches. If however the clare league decide that they will look at the ties individually and home pitches are unplayable then they will be transferred to away teams pitches if playable. That as far as im aware is the rule so it all depends on what the powers that be do. The wuestion is though as mentioned above who decides if the pitch is playable? Are home teams like Rovers going to give up home advantage so easily?

[papa-j]

in newtowns case, noel donnelan missed maybe three games but the difference is that they have someone to replace him when he is out.that is where managers must be cautious when signing players.

Exactly Noel Donnellan has missed 3 games for Newtown because of GAA since 1993 - so thats right kick him off the panel for treason:rolleyes: He was dropped in the following games and that was the end of it.

[old git]

[QUOTE=old git;896578]

So old git would you say if you were the manager of newtown, you would not be interested in signing noel donnelon because he went off playing gaa instead of a newtown match?Also would you say he has let his club and fellow players down?? I dont think so.....


side cutter i think you are just trying to stir the sh*t here with the newtown lads.. if i was manager of newtown / avenue / newmarket / lifford etc i would not be intrested in signing any gaa heads,,
to use noel donnelon as an example is crazy anybody who knows hime or has seen him play will know he is newtown through & through.. and as papa-j said only missed 3 games in over 15 years ...
as for letting club down & fellow players down i would still say he did but this is my own opionion .. there are plenty of other clubs out there full of gaa heads who are playing soccer to keep fit.. and this is why clare league will never switch to summer soccer as they do not have the b*lls to stand up to these clubs in case they upset them:ball:

[the only 1]

is darly eade playing with avenue?

[Avenue1990]

is darly eade playing with avenue?

Daryll is playing with Avenue. He re signed with the club before the end of the transfer season. Great signing too.

[Side Cutter]

[QUOTE=Side Cutter;896618]


side cutter i think you are just trying to stir the sh*t here with the newtown lads.. if i was manager of newtown / avenue / newmarket / lifford etc i would not be intrested in signing any gaa heads,,
to use noel donnelon as an example is crazy anybody who knows hime or has seen him play will know he is newtown through & through.. and as papa-j said only missed 3 games in over 15 years ...
as for letting club down & fellow players down i would still say he did but this is my own opionion .. there are plenty of other clubs out there full of gaa heads who are playing soccer to keep fit.. and this is why clare league will never switch to summer soccer as they do not have the b*lls to stand up to these clubs in case they upset them:ball:

Not trying to stir any sh1t with anyone.If anyone is doing this then its you with the bunratty lads.Im entitled to my opinion as much as the next man.If you dont like it stop posting.

[old git]

[QUOTE=old git;897359]

Not trying to stir any sh1t with anyone.If anyone is doing this then its you with the bunratty lads.Im entitled to my opinion as much as the next man.If you dont like it stop posting.


not trying to stir sh*t !! how then did newtown & noel donnelon get brought into an exchange of views about bunratty & gaa players
apologies if i have upset anybody involved with bunratty nothing personal just a rant about clare league clubs signing & getting let down by gaa heads during the season :ball::ball:

[Side Cutter]

[QUOTE=Side Cutter;897546]


not trying to stir sh*t !! how then did newtown & noel donnelon get brought into an exchange of views about bunratty & gaa players
apologies if i have upset anybody involved with bunratty nothing personal just a rant about clare league clubs signing & getting let down by gaa heads during the season :ball::ball:

I was just pointing out that there are gaa heads in your club as well as bunratty.....

[Avenue1990]

Lads its a fact of life that soccer in Clare will always be affected by GAA. This is because every club is either from a village or a town where clubs are competing for the same players. I would think that the cities are the only leagues that dont have this problem. Now can we move on to more interesting issues like the cup this weekend..:confused:

[shanman2]

Lads its a fact of life that soccer in Clare will always be affected by GAA. This is because every club is either from a village or a town where clubs are competing for the same players. I would think that the cities are the only leagues that dont have this problem. Now can we move on to more interesting issues like the cup this weekend..:confused:

Have the Clare league ever considered splitting the league in two? East and West. As a neutral observer who doesn't really watch Clare Football but is aware of the problems this seems a possible solution.
Newtown, Newmarket, Lifford, Avenue, Bridge Utd, Bridge Celtic and Shannon Olympic (there could possibly be more) all could play in the East section.
Then the west section which it seems to me are all GAA clubs could play away their own league, with the possibility of summer soccer afforded to the east.