Clare League 2007/08

[avenueC]

avenue1 2 rats good open game of football, plenty of chances on both sides.
ref wasnt a great help to the game to be honest.. avenue could have maybe should have gotten a draw out of it but fair play to bunratty
as alex ferguson said yrs ago in referenceto leeds playing out of their skin against united with nothing to play for,
im sure bunratty will give the same commitment against newmarket as they did last nite, even though they are safe from relegation now

[CousinSylDolan]

even though they are safe from relegation now

Have you seen the lg table? Bunratty still 3rd from bottom and only 1 point out of automatic relegation place. Lot of football to be played yet.

By the way lads I think we can assume Avenue1990 is nothing to do with Avenue. Its easy for him to come on here under that name and try ruffle a few feathers. We have seen it before and we will see it again. Chances are we wont hear from him today:confused:

[Avenue1990]

Well done bunratty - beaten fair and square. If bunratty had got their game together earlier on they would easily be battling for the league.

Syl - im not on here to ruffle anyones feathers just to give an opinion like everyone else.Apologies to those who have been ruffled.

[CousinSylDolan]

rats are going down?? typical after good cup result cant get themselves up for the bread and butter of the league

Fair enough Avenue1990... but its comments like the the above that do you no favours.

I think you will find the lads were fairly "up" for it last night.

[Wayne's World]

im sure bunratty will give the same commitment against newmarket as they did last nite, even though they are safe from relegation now


Im sure they will AveunueC but don't forget about Lifford. They have won their last few games and seem to be hitting form at the right time.

Must win game for avenue on Sunday now. I don't thnk they can afford to lose to Lifford and still think about winning. If Avenue win it will be wide open again.

There are still 2 places in the relegation zone which are by no means sorted.
Looks like it will be an exciting 3-4 weeks ahead

[smellyfeet]

Doe's anyone have an up to date Premier League Table

[Wayne's World]

Doe's anyone have an up to date Premier League Table

Newmarket Cel 14 10 3 1 29 11 18 33
Lifford 14 10 2 2 20 12 18 32
Avenue Utd 13 8 3 2 31 14 17 27
Moher Celtic 13 5 2 6 18 20 -2 17
Burren Utd 14 5 2 7 15 22 -7 17
Rineanna Rvs 14 3 6 5 20 22 -2 15
Newtown 12 4 2 6 15 18 -3 14
Bunratty 12 4 2 6 15 20 -5 14
Bridge Celtic 14 3 4 7 22 28 -6 13
Kildysart Cel 14 1 2 11 13 40 -27 2

[2legged tackle]

Newmarket Cel 14 10 3 1 29 11 18 33
Lifford 14 10 2 2 20 12 18 32
Avenue Utd 13 8 3 2 31 14 17 27
Moher Celtic 13 5 2 6 18 20 -2 17
Burren Utd 14 5 2 7 15 22 -7 17
Rineanna Rvs 14 3 6 5 20 22 -2 15
Newtown 12 4 2 6 15 18 -3 14
Bunratty 12 4 2 6 15 20 -5 14
Bridge Celtic 14 3 4 7 22 28 -6 13
Kildysart Cel 14 1 2 11 13 40 -27 2

From That table anyone from Moher down could be relegated.
Interesting few weeks ahead.
Burren and Rineanna are far from safe so I dont now why Avenuec thinks Bunratty are.
Anyone have the remaining fixtures?

[gaffer]

Looks like the League could depend on the Clare League decision re. Lifford playing (suspect) suspended player vs Bridge Celtic.

[CousinSylDolan]

Looks like the League could depend on the Clare League decision re. Lifford playing (suspect) suspended player vs Bridge Celtic.

PROTESTS

Rule 80: Protests must be forwarded to the Secretary and a copy of same to the club concerned by Registered Post, bearing postmark within 2 (two) days of the date on which the match has been played. The protesting club must state all facts in their protest and must produce, at the first investigation, all evidence they wish to tender in support of their case. In no circumstances will a club be allowed to withdraw a protest. To appeal any decision to the C.D.S.L. you must send a cheque for €30 with your appeal.

Unless Bridge Celtic have appealed within 2 days of the game, which they have not I believe, then nothing will come out of this.

[old git]

Looks like the League could depend on the Clare League decision re. Lifford playing (suspect) suspended player vs Bridge Celtic.

whats the story with lifford then.. will be getting a bad name for using so called illegal players .. did their b team also get docked 9 points already this seaon for this offence ... madness in my opionon how a so called big club can my mistakes like this :mad:

[gaffer]

PROTESTS

Rule 80: Protests must be forwarded to the Secretary and a copy of same to the club concerned by Registered Post, bearing postmark within 2 (two) days of the date on which the match has been played. The protesting club must state all facts in their protest and must produce, at the first investigation, all evidence they wish to tender in support of their case. In no circumstances will a club be allowed to withdraw a protest. To appeal any decision to the C.D.S.L. you must send a cheque for €30 with your appeal.

Unless Bridge Celtic have appealed within 2 days of the game, which they have not I believe, then nothing will come out of this.

Rule appears straight forward, however how do would any club know a player from the opponents is suspend for any particular match. Surely in a case such at this the Clare League should examine the match card from ref. This should be just a case of the Clare League enforcing a suspension.

[MikeBassett]

IMO Lifford surely have to lose their 3 points from the Bridge Celtic game. The rules are there for all the clubs to see on the website, they're straight forward and clear on red cards and Lifford's next competive game after Tulla in the cup was Bridge Celtic so the player in question should have served his 1 game then no excuses. Therefore Lifford broke the rules that everyone else seems to have no problem with and should be by right deducted the points.
Whats the delay with the League's response on this tho?

[plasticpitch]

remaining fixtures for relegation threatened teams...

moher(home) kildysart,avenue,newtown (away) bunratty,bridge celtic

burren (away) newmarket,rineanna,newtown,bunratty

rineanna (home) lifford,burren (away) newtown,avenue

newtown (home) avenue,burren,rineanna (away) moher bridge cel,kildysart

bunratty (home) lifford,moher,burren,kildysart (away) newmarket,kildysart

bridge celtic (home) newmarket,moher,newtown (away) lifford

kildysart(if they turn up) (home) newtown,bunratty (away) moher,bunratty

any predictions ???alot could happen!!!
well looking at that bridge celtic and rineanna look to be in trouble as all others will pick up almost guaranteed points against kildysart.
also burren with 4 away games could get into trouble.
however there will be big 6 pointer games. teams can rise up very quickly with wins especially against another relegation threatened team....
still lots to play for. no doubt all games will be very competitive until the last ball is kicked

[LazyLegs]

remaining fixtures for relegation threatened teams...

moher(home) kildysart,avenue,newtown (away) bunratty,bridge celtic

burren (away) newmarket,rineanna,newtown,bunratty

rineanna (home) lifford,burren (away) newtown,avenue

newtown (home) avenue,burren,rineanna (away) moher bridge cel,kildysart

bunratty (home) lifford,moher,burren,kildysart (away) newmarket,kildysart

bridge celtic (home) newmarket,moher,newtown (away) lifford

kildysart(if they turn up) (home) newtown,bunratty (away) moher,bunratty

any predictions ???alot could happen!!!

From this i think Burren are dead certs to be relegated but the play-off position is tough to call.rineanna or bridge celtic for me.

Any predictions for tomoro. reckon home win for newtown, bunratty to win away, a draw down in bridge celtic and a win for lifford.crucial times at the top and bottom. interesting the way no team can say whether their season is over whether it be winning the league or getting relegated:ball:

[Bossman]

www.claresoccer.net updated

[MikeBassett]

are the rumours true that Newtown and Park have almost agreed to join together next season???

[Spudd]

Shhhhhhhhhhh..... ;)

[MikeBassett]

have to say that ive never in my life seen a worse referee than the one in charge of a massive league derby this mornin between Lifford and Avenue. He had an absolute howler, no joke. ive seen him ref 2 other games this year too and he has failed to control either game or get many easy/common sense decisions correct. today regardless who fouled who(even tho it was as clear as day) he'd giv the free to the team who roared the loudest for it. he sent off an avenue lad after bout 25 mins which he had right to but he was annoying all the players and management so much with his dreadful reffin. 2 lifford players were sent off in last 10 for mouthin. but in all seriousness this ref ruined the game. lifford keeper had a taibi-like howler for the goal.

[CousinSylDolan]

are the rumours true that Newtown and Park have almost agreed to join together next season???

Newtowns current lg position wont bother them so if they wont be playing in Clare next year.

What a shame if its true. Newtown will be a huge loss to the Clare lg.

[old git]

are the rumours true that Newtown and Park have almost agreed to join together next season???

vidic did you hear it from any reliable source ... thought this was dead & buried a couple of year back . :confused::confused:

[Spudd]

vidic did you hear it from any reliable source ... thought this was dead & buried a couple of year back . :confused::confused:

Seems to be true alright,alot of talk about it last night from players,managers and most importantly committee members so it looks as tho its happening.

Davey wall to be Player/Manager too...

Time to get my newtown tattoo lasered off my chest.

No more ''Hail hail''...no more ''Welcome to hell''...

Sad day. ;)

[Pike B]

Seems to be true alright,alot of talk about it last night from players,managers and most importantly committee members so it looks as tho its happening.

Davey wall to be Player/Manager too...

Time to get my newtown tattoo lasered off my chest.

No more ''Hail hail''...no more ''Welcome to hell''...

Sad day. ;)
I miss you being nosey in Limerick thread bud. Where you been at??

[old git]

Seems to be true alright,alot of talk about it last night from players,managers and most importantly committee members so it looks as tho its happening.

Davey wall to be Player/Manager too...

Time to get my newtown tattoo lasered off my chest.

No more ''Hail hail''...no more ''Welcome to hell''...

Sad day. ;)

would the players / members not have a big say on this surely newtown / park cannot merge without consulting players / members about this :confused: keep your tattoo may be a breakaway of newtown rebels who will chain themselves to club house to save the club and try and start a new club ..

[Spudd]

would the players / members not have a big say on this surely newtown / park cannot merge without consulting players / members about this :confused: keep your tattoo may be a breakaway of newtown rebels who will chain themselves to club house to save the club and try and start a new club ..

There were many meetings held over the last few weeks which people were notified about but as per usual ,only the usual heads turned up. Everyone had there chance to have there say but failed to attend so the committee went ahead and made the decision.

[CousinSylDolan]

Will it be Lodge or Knights after games then??? Surely this was discussed and agreed at meetings:D

[old git]

There were many meetings held over the last few weeks which people were notified about but as per usual ,only the usual heads turned up. Everyone had there chance to have there say but failed to attend so the committee went ahead and made the decision.

the usuall then nobody turns up or cares untill it is to late !!
what is your take on it . do you think it will really happen . is it a good move for newtown .. i assume it would mean newtown now folding is this correct :confused:

[Greaves]

The new team will be playing in 1B, unless Park get promoted!

[Spudd]

the usuall then nobody turns up or cares untill it is to late !!
what is your take on it . do you think it will really happen . is it a good move for newtown .. i assume it would mean newtown now folding is this correct :confused:

At first,i didnt like the idea at all..in fact i was one of the few who rejected it but now,after speaking with people who have given 30 odd years to the club my opinion has changed. If Stoney and Co. think this is what needs to be done then who am i to disagree.

[avenueC]

ref was poor ,but in fairmess he applied the letter of the law to the game
he kept sayin arms /hands have no place in the game an a lot of the frees were because of so called pushes on high balls are so called phyiscal challenges like shoulders etc...
lifford lost their heads in the last 15 mins when their 2 guys got the line for abusing the ref

avenue did well considering they had 10 men from teh 25th min on an they deserved their win totally

[old git]

The new team will be playing in 1B, unless Park get promoted!


yes thats correct... but it will still be called park rangers for at least 1 year before new team/ club will change name :confused: i think

[papa-j]

the usuall then nobody turns up or cares untill it is to late !!
what is your take on it . do you think it will really happen . is it a good move for newtown .. i assume it would mean newtown now folding is this correct :confused:

Boys I was as surprised as anybody as this was kept under wraps until final details were agreed. It was then taken to both committees for ratification and final agreement. Neither club is folding as such. Both clubs are amalgamating pooling resources like administrators, managers, coaches, facilities and players. Team will play as Park for 1 year but with new colours and crest and be renamed the following season.

People will be against it but anybody who really knows what goes on behind the scenes will agree it was necessary for both clubs to survive long term and both sets of people involved should be commended for this brave decision.

I wasn't involved but this is my understanding and I stand to be corrected on any of these points.

Personally its an end of an era as such having played for Newtown for 20+ years but its a sad sign of the times and was neccessary for both clubs to go forward

[old git]

At first,i didnt like the idea at all..in fact i was one of the few who rejected it but now,after speaking with people who have given 30 odd years to the club my opinion has changed. If Stoney and Co. think this is what needs to be done then who am i to disagree.

fair enough but no doubt a lot of other people involved will have other views also .. :ball:

[smellyfeet]

[QUOTE=old git;925545]fair enough but no doubt a lot of other people involved will have other views also ]

Its sad news alright, but the state of things at the moment, somfin has to be done:(

[Spudd]

Yes..

[studsup]

it will be sad to see newtown go at the end of the season...no more talkin themselves up for silverware at the start of the year on here and then ending up with nothing:p
are newtown 'too good' for the clare league?? personally i think that park rangers should have to play in the clare league since they are located in clare and a good distance from the border but thats another topic

[2legged tackle]

personally i think that park rangers should have to play in the clare league since they are located in clare and a good distance from the border but thats another topic

I dont think that was ever going to happen. Too many clubs in Shannon for too long. I know both clubs are from Clare but for any improvement I think Limerick is the only option.
Sad day for the Clare league and every one involved.:(

[old git]

I dont think that was ever going to happen. Too many clubs in Shannon for too long. I know both clubs are from Clare but for any improvement I think Limerick is the only option.
Sad day for the Clare league and every one involved.:(

well said a sad day for clare league and a big loss to clare league but an even sadder day for all the true newtown people out there who gave their all to club over the last 31 years :(

[Avenue1990]

Great result for avenue this weekend esp as AvenueC says with 10 men for so long. This thursday night will be huge in determining where the league goes i reckon.

On another note I cannot believe this news with Newtown. Its a huge loss to Clare soccer as they have brilliant facilities and some fine players. ( i think they had 5 players on this years oscar traynor squad)

Will they have a strong team for thursday night and remainder of season??

[summervilleman]

which one of the shannon based clubs is going out of business??

[CousinSylDolan]

which one of the shannon based clubs is going out of business??

Newtown FC... They are amalgamating with Park AFC.

[old git]

Newtown FC... They are amalgamating with Park AFC.

technically both teams will be going .. newtown fc will amalgamate with park afc at end of this season :confused: and after 1 year approx park rangers will change their name and a new super shannon club will be unleashed upon the world :ball:

[Avenue1990]

Newtown wont be selling their pitch on the cheap will they?? since its so hard to get one in Ennis!!:p

[smellyfeet]

Hacker,
You asked will Newtown play to their full potential, thats a very hard question, simply because i don't think they have done this all year with the exception of the FAI games. I don't think that they will go into any of their remaining games looking to lose.

Just want to mention something about the amalgamation. Newtown A have won 2 Clare Leagues and 2 Clare Cups in it 31 year History. Park have won 1 lawson Cup and 1 Touhy Cup in Their 30 odd year History. Thats 6 Trophy's in 60 years of business. The School Boys / Girls and youths on boths sides are struggling for Numbers so plan i presume is to TRY to improve this as it is poor reflection for the time and effort put into both.From what i here, Parks facilities will be for Junior teams and Newtown will become an Acadamy for School Boys / Girls.

For a town of Shannon size its nothing short of embarrasing for None of the Clubs to be challanging at the top every year, NOT 1 in every 10.

[smellyfeet]

which one of the shannon based clubs is going out of business??

2 teams, Newtown and Park, Newtown will be gone this year and Park next.

[smellyfeet]

just wondering will this new team then have to start in lower leagues in limerick as new teams can't just go straight into top divisions..:ball:


Will play in whatever div Park play in as they will be called Park afc next year

[out red]

Will play in whatever div Park play in as they will be called Park afc next year

heard a rumour that if this goes ahead there will be ramifications. something to do with newtowns lotto grant having a clause that they are a clare club. b4 somebody starts ranting about this its only what i heard and im putting it out there to c if its true.

[Side Cutter]

heard a rumour that if this goes ahead there will be ramifications. something to do with newtowns lotto grant having a clause that they are a clare club. b4 somebody starts ranting about this its only what i heard and im putting it out there to c if its true.

Heard that aswell.Cant understand why newtown didnt wait until the season was over to announce this:confused:

[smellyfeet]

i meant for year after

The name will only change, just like Corofin did a few years back. If you change the name it doesn't mean you have to drop down division.

[Traw_Law_Law]

I hope the Clare League can find a way of preventing this.