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sbgawa
08/08/2019, 10:02 AM
The most dissapointing thing for me about rovers this season is the esse with which dundalk have won the league.
If anything we look better than we are as the league is so weak t his year. Two of last year's top 4 have imploded , Derry and bohs are comparable with last year and pats.......
Dundalk have won the league at a canter because of the depth and strength / cost of their squad without several of their star performers playing to potential.
Hoban, Duffy, mceleney and others.
Have a look at the second 11 that play against cobh on Saturday even without Benson and Flores and ask yourself where that team would finish in the league.
I don't think peak 6 will look at a season (If they go out on tuesday) where the performance meets minimum expectations in Europe (win first round as a seeded team then go out asap) as a success as Europe is the only way they make money.
Do the dundalk fans think vinny is getting the best out of the players?
For me rovers need to finish the league strongly , finishing second in the league this year isn't progress for me, we need to finish further ahead of the rest and try to not lose any more ground on dundalk to be able to call this season progress.
The money from the Burke and bazuna Clarke transfers has allowed the signings of farrugia, o Neill and ironically Burke so that bit of depth might help next year.....it's the hope that kills you though.
We can't rely on cork and Waterford or a newly promoted shels to be as bad as this year.
That being said and this is the craziness of football win on Tuesday and the season has hit expectations in Europe and vinnie can argue that early injuries in the season despite the size of squad unsettled the team and that all of this year's underperformers can only improve next year and he deserved another crack at it. Which he does imo .

CorribsideSteve
08/08/2019, 10:09 AM
It might have been a wind up indeed, however, due to a decrease in quality of player (no Horgan, for example), this years version of Dundalk in Europe has been bland, toothless and quite limited. Is that down to tactics? When they needed a goal with a few minutes left, they played like 2016 again, so they can do it. Maybe it was a case this year that the draw for matches wasn't too kind. He is going to get a treble, as others have pointed out, but there has just been no sense of attacking quality about Dundalk at all this Euro season.

marinobohs
08/08/2019, 10:32 AM
The most dissapointing thing for me about rovers this season is the esse with which dundalk have won the league.
If anything we look better than we are as the league is so weak t his year. Two of last year's top 4 have imploded , Derry and bohs are comparable with last year and pats.......
Dundalk have won the league at a canter because of the depth and strength / cost of their squad without several of their star performers playing to potential.
Hoban, Duffy, mceleney and others.
Have a look at the second 11 that play against cobh on Saturday even without Benson and Flores and ask yourself where that team would finish in the league.
I don't think peak 6 will look at a season (If they go out on tuesday) where the performance meets minimum expectations in Europe (win first round as a seeded team then go out asap) as a success as Europe is the only way they make money.
Do the dundalk fans think vinny is getting the best out of the players?
For me rovers need to finish the league strongly , finishing second in the league this year isn't progress for me, we need to finish further ahead of the rest and try to not lose any more ground on dundalk to be able to call this season progress.
The money from the Burke and bazuna Clarke transfers has allowed the signings of farrugia, o Neill and ironically Burke so that bit of depth might help next year.....it's the hope that kills you though.
We can't rely on cork and Waterford or a newly promoted shels to be as bad as this year.
That being said and this is the craziness of football win on Tuesday and the season has hit expectations in Europe and vinnie can argue that early injuries in the season despite the size of squad unsettled the team and that all of this year's underperformers can only improve next year and he deserved another crack at it. Which he does imo .

Not sure why a relatively average LOI season for other clubs should result in the best team in it considering their managers position :confused: did PEAK6 set a minimum number of points he had to win the league by ? Dundalk have, just about, achieved the minimum their owners would have expected in Europe. Performances have not ben great but (just about) enough done .

I think every other club hoped that Kenny's departure would weaken Dundalk, even for a period of time while they transitioned. Instead, after a typical (for Dundalk) sluggish league start it has been pretty much business as usual. unless there is some targets set by PEAK6 we are all unaware of I think Vinnie/John (change order to taste) are pretty comfortable in their role.

Kingswood Rover
08/08/2019, 10:41 AM
Dundalk are due a good performance in terms of converting chances this year in Europe so i still think they are well in the tie. Rovers are better this season and if we finish 2nd within 10 then thats progress imo. I really hope the club targets the FAI cup because its now one of 2 primates sitting on our backs. Next Season we need to be challenging to the end.

ger121
08/08/2019, 10:51 AM
Winning the League at a canter. Back in the CL next season, where I presume they should be seeded again. €1.2 million in the bag from Europe this year. Possibly a similar amount next season too. Unless something drastic happens, they’ll be heavy favourites to win the League in 2020, which should ensure CL football in 2021. More money again. A breakthrough into Playoff round territory or indeed Group stages is the target but not likely to be expected on a yearly basis. I think PEAK 6 will be happy enough with that and Perth to remain as Manager.

Real ale Madrid
08/08/2019, 11:16 AM
Dundalk's co-efficient looking like 8.500 next season - 9.000 if they beat Slovan - a similar season in Europe next year would see them have a co-effient of roughly 10.000 - 10.500 - more than enough imo to see them through to the new thrid tier Europa league 2 group stages in 2021 as they would be seeded throughout the champions route in a competition like that, with a co-efficient like that. If the owners are sensible enough to play the long game then there are returns to be made, if of course the financial rewards for that new competition mirror roughly what the Europea League does now.

EatYerGreens
08/08/2019, 11:19 AM
Fill the place with loi fans.
Lower gate receipts (the approx 1500) dfc season ticket holders who would go anyway but 30k gamble against progressing...
Won't happen obviously but it's not that controversial surely.

It's not controversial. It's just plain daft.

If only football was so simple that the margin between success and failure was having <8,000 randoms in a stadium for a single game.

oriel
08/08/2019, 12:07 PM
This Dundalk side has declined a fair bit from the one of 2015 and 2016. The defence is mostly the same, up front its Hoban for McMillan, but the real weakening is the MF and 3 players in particular are badly missed and have not been replaced, O’Donnell – Finn – Horgan. We are losing the ball on too many occasions in MF at this level and attacks are taking far far too long to build, when they do they opposition have all re-organised. An exception was the great ball by Mountney for Duffy, then that chance by Boyle and right at the end with the header, both from set pieces.

We have scored one goal so far this season from 5 euro games, now we need 2 with a clean sheet to have any hope, 1-0 gets to ET but the longer it goes on the threat of an away goal is there, and you would think should Bratisalva score, that will be it. These guys are beatable though, I`m just not sure we have it in us to get 2 with no reply, comparisons were made to same position being 1-0 down away to BATE, then the famous 3-0 win in Tallaght, but that seems a long time ago. I`m certainly not giving up, its more a realistic look at where we are at this level, just a pity we couldn’t have held out, 85 mins was a sickener, but they did deserve to win it overall.

It’s def not over, but it will take one huge effort to get past them. I’m not sure this Dundalk side can do that, I hope I’m wrong.

Tallaght will not sell out, I`d like to think we can exceed 4k at the gate though.

paul_oshea
08/08/2019, 3:58 PM
I remember watching the 2016 games in particular and shields was getting all the praise but I thought O'donnell was the main man then. People seemed to lose sight of him cos of Oneills praise for shields. This is exactly what I thought by the end of yesterdays game, he controlled Dundalks play much more effectively and held them together well and shape well without the ball.

Lots of different opinions on here. ONe thing you cannot say though is a team is due a good performance or due goals. THey've proved nothing to suggest they can, other than some preceded reputation based on a different team a season or two ago.

On the tactical side of things and the negativity, no idea how kenny compares to perth but the style of play is very different. I had a stream which was 20 seconds commentary behind the play so realising subs and other stuff was difficult but from 70 mins onwards Brazzerslava got more desperate and Dundalk more negative, I am convinced a side under kenny(player quality aside) would have got them on the counter or caught them with a quick work well worked goal. Instead the manager decides to wait till the 87th(88th?) minute to bring on a winger with pace. There was one perfect example when they had a 2v2 and i think it was mcgrath/mceleny played Hoban through and no pace to beat the defender , with a couple of pacy lads up front at this point in the game they'd have exploited this. Instead it looked like management were happy to go with a 0-1.

The other consensus on here seems to be that it was fairly even at half time and that when Dundalk "wanted/tried" to create chances they could, i think its a combination of things but they definitely played more positively and ventured further up the pitch after conceding even if the subs were more negative.

I think they will score at home but I know they will concede, which makes it task possible but highly unlikely.

Martinho II
08/08/2019, 5:04 PM
any word on whether eir will show the game next week as it wasnt mentioned last night at all?

Ezeikial
08/08/2019, 5:37 PM
any word on whether eir will show the game next week as it wasnt mentioned last night at all?

Not as far as I know

They're probably waiting to see how the campaign for free match admission for LoI season ticket holders goes first

pineapple stu
08/08/2019, 7:53 PM
A win for Dudelange tonight against Nomme Kalju means we fall behind the Luxembourg league to 40th in Europe.

Not important for clubs of course as they have their own coefficient, but you would still like to see us higher than that.

If you take it that the best Dundalk will do is beat Slovan and then lose home and away to PAOK/Ajax, then our three-year form has us in 46th, and we're badly in need of something to replace Dundalk/Cork's exploits from 2016.

ger121
08/08/2019, 8:43 PM
Apollon won 2-1 away to Austria Wien. Really was a decent tie for Rovers if they could have gotten over the line.

mcgonigle
08/08/2019, 10:04 PM
I remember watching the 2016 games in particular and shields was getting all the praise but I thought O'donnell was the main man then. People seemed to lose sight of him cos of Oneills praise for shields. This is exactly what I thought by the end of yesterdays game, he controlled Dundalks play much more effectively and held them together well and shape well without the ball.


I don't think you'll find a Dundalk supporter who doesn't know how good O'Donnell was. One of the best midfielders ever to play in the league in my opinion. His performances in Europe in 2016 were a different level to anything I've ever seen.

I agree with you, he is badly missed. We don't have everyone like him now. Shields is quality but a different player to O'Donnell

dundalkfc10
09/08/2019, 1:47 AM
Taking zero pleasure here but there is no denying dfc have been underwhelming so far.
Kind of boils down to the next match.
If they do the business and go through all will be forgiven and it will be a successful run that probably ends by losing to Paok a team that represent a free shot at glory but a tough nut.
Another below par performance and the verdict will be very different.
Football is a crazy business 90 minutes will probably decide if vinny gets a shot at next year.

Hahahaha

We could win a treble but lose next week, but you think Vinny could be gone by next season?

You must have thought Bradley would be long gone by now?

bennocelt
09/08/2019, 7:38 AM
Interesting read..............

https://punditarena.com/football/emackenna/dundalk-mackenna-on-monday-ambition-1/ (https://punditarena.com/football/emackenna/dundalk-mackenna-on-monday-ambition-1/)

TonyD
09/08/2019, 10:59 AM
Be prepared to be "shocked"

Maybe things could change if a manager with over a 40% european win rate came available
(https://foot.ie/threads/243195-League-of-Ireland-in-Europe-2019/page54?p=2010240#post2010240)

Just on Vinny Perth, why do Dundalk have to persist with the fiction that he isn't the manager, with full control. The licence thing is a bit of a nonsense when it's so easily gotten around isn't it ? Just to be clear, I'm not having a go at Dundalk in any way, they should be able to appoint whoever they want as their manager in my view. The system however seems to be a farce to me.

marinobohs
09/08/2019, 11:09 AM
Just on Vinny Perth, why do Dundalk have to persist with the fiction that he isn't the manager, with full control. The licence thing is a bit of a nonsense when it's so easily gotten around isn't it ? Just to be clear, I'm not having a go at Dundalk in any way, they should be able to appoint whoever they want as their manager in my view. The system however seems to be a farce to me.

Coaching badges are now a FAI (possibly UEFA) requirement for all managers. Perth doesn't have the required badges Giller does therefore they have to go with the current arrangement on paper anyway. what happens at training, matchday's etc. may be completely different.
Instead of 'getting around' the requirement the simple thing is for managers to get the necessary qualifications.

El-Pietro
09/08/2019, 12:15 PM
Coaching badges are now a FAI (possibly UEFA) requirement for all managers. Perth doesn't have the required badges Giller does therefore they have to go with the current arrangement on paper anyway. what happens at training, matchday's etc. may be completely different.
Instead of 'getting around' the requirement the simple thing is for managers to get the necessary qualifications.
UEFA requires coaches to be on the Pro License course, FAI require coaches to have completed the course.

ger121
09/08/2019, 1:09 PM
Interesting read..............

https://punditarena.com/football/emackenna/dundalk-mackenna-on-monday-ambition-1/ (https://punditarena.com/football/emackenna/dundalk-mackenna-on-monday-ambition-1/)

Not a bad read that.

marinobohs
09/08/2019, 1:10 PM
UEFA requires coaches to be on the Pro License course, FAI require coaches to have completed the course.

ta. think in the past we had the same requirement as UEFA and we had a few managers who signed up after they were appointed ( Owen Heery, I think was one). always surprises me that people seeking to go into management don't get the required qualification.

Nesta99
09/08/2019, 1:10 PM
Perth on the course, Gill has completed the course, Boxes ticked!

nigel-harps1954
09/08/2019, 1:12 PM
Interesting read..............

https://punditarena.com/football/emackenna/dundalk-mackenna-on-monday-ambition-1/ (https://punditarena.com/football/emackenna/dundalk-mackenna-on-monday-ambition-1/)

Interesting indeed. Hard to disagree with much of what he says about them progressing and the expectation they'd step up further year on year.

5yardpass
09/08/2019, 1:41 PM
Interesting read..............

https://punditarena.com/football/emackenna/dundalk-mackenna-on-monday-ambition-1/ (https://punditarena.com/football/emackenna/dundalk-mackenna-on-monday-ambition-1/)

Very interesting, and first sign of concern.

marinobohs
09/08/2019, 3:37 PM
Interesting indeed. Hard to disagree with much of what he says about them progressing and the expectation they'd step up further year on year.

Depends on what one expects, Dundalk may never be in a position to deliver Group stage Champions league or Europa league on a consistent basis. they already have the biggest wage bill in LOI by a decent amount so how much more should they spend to maybe progress one more round ? Even that is hit and miss depending on the 'luck of the draw'.
one would hope for steady consistent progress as they continue to qualify but even that is not guaranteed as resources to other teams increase.

What exactly do we see as the stage LOI clubs can/should be able to reach ?

PEAK6 have no real interest in developing oriel and will not until someone identifies a real tangible business opportunity (or a local authority step in). not holding breath :o

seand
09/08/2019, 4:10 PM
Kinda depends whether you agree that "the aim was to win the league every year, and if not to at least qualify for Europe, get through a round or two, and make the money........... That’s a tragic lack of ambition"

What should Dundalk's ambition be? To compete with Qarabag, Rosenborg, APOEL, Ludogorets and consistently make the EL groups? If so the owners will need to increase their investment by a factor of 10

dundalkfc10
09/08/2019, 8:26 PM
Depends on what one expects, Dundalk may never be in a position to deliver Group stage Champions league or Europa league on a consistent basis. they already have the biggest wage bill in LOI by a decent amount so how much more should they spend to maybe progress one more round ? Even that is hit and miss depending on the 'luck of the draw'.
one would hope for steady consistent progress as they continue to qualify but even that is not guaranteed as resources to other teams increase.

What exactly do we see as the stage LOI clubs can/should be able to reach ?

PEAK6 have no real interest in developing oriel and will not until someone identifies a real tangible business opportunity (or a local authority step in). not holding breath :o

Have you ever read or listened to any of Peak6's mens interviews?

They spent over half a million already doimg uo the YDC.

Why would they do up Oriel when we can barely get 3,000 every second Friday in Oriel?

They have stated on numerous occasions that ground will be done up eventually, but you prob know better

Dalymountrower
09/08/2019, 9:48 PM
They will sweat the asset as long as there is a yield. Cop on and get together for a plan B

marinobohs
09/08/2019, 10:39 PM
Have you ever read or listened to any of Peak6's mens interviews?

They spent over half a million already doimg uo the YDC.

Why would they do up Oriel when we can barely get 3,000 every second Friday in Oriel?

They have stated on numerous occasions that ground will be done up eventually, but you prob know better

"Eventually" well I'm glad you cleared that up 😁
By the way I have some "magic beans" I think you would be VERY interested in !

joey B
09/08/2019, 11:47 PM
Found it very interesting that apart from Celtic and Rangers who are different animals anyway, no other Scottish team has qualified for the Europa League group stage since it's inception,was surprised by that.......

Charlie Darwin
10/08/2019, 1:55 AM
1 goal in their last 7 European games now for Dundalk. Funny how that's not been mentioned much by journalists. When Cork City failed to score in 6 it was mentioned constantly.
Well they actually got through a round. Cork kept getting hammered. What's your point?

Nesta99
10/08/2019, 5:11 AM
We hoped that Peak6 might have a go at doing something with Oriel Park in the beginning. But whats the point or where is the value to the club?

Nesta99
10/08/2019, 7:15 AM
Well they actually got through a round. Cork kept getting hammered. What's your point?

Ah CD isn't it obvious?!T
There is a bias against Cork City FC/Cork in general. Dundalk are the media darlings (even when Cork were champions). Not Cork = living in hell and JC had to fiercely point out that all clubs outside Cork needed to focus - we are all 'Not Cork' so to get attendances up to the consistant Rebel Level of 4k is tough ask. JC was a loved 'fighter' type at City especially facing up to Munster rival midfielders so deserved a double page spread weekly in all the Dublin meeja outlets. The non tackling policy probably didnt help though.... We just all cant compete with the real capital! Give it another 4 seasons with Rovers nip and tuck with us then we will be counting eachothers' fingers and toes match nights:rolleyes:

Business as usual this evening - Bohs robbed a Dublin Derby again, Penos needed to divide biggest club in the land and giants Cabinteely, Cup specialists did enough, free scoring Sligo looked great, Lims limp on. And another 2 days of cup games ;p

dundalkfc10
10/08/2019, 8:02 AM
"Eventually" well I'm glad you cleared that up 😁
By the way I have some "magic beans" I think you would be VERY interested in !

Yeh they stated that the more money the club make the more would be available to spend on the ground (already have put in new tarmac behind goals, fixed all the seats in the Shed, fencing up in away area, New dressing rooms in YDC should be ready before end season, one best training facilities in country already done)

They are only here 18 months.

Whats your plan B cause the new Dalymount has wemt very quiet and i doubt the FAI will be in a position to give money for it anyway

Ezeikial
10/08/2019, 10:17 AM
DFC website


Please note: this game is NOT being broadcast live on Irish TV.



* ALL tickets for this game will be sold ONLINE ONLY. To purchase, please visit our online ticket page (https://embed.futureticketing.ie/c/dundalk-fc/).
* Tickets will be priced at €15 adult, €10 concession and €5 juvenile (under-12s).

https://www.dundalkfc.com/europa-league-tickets-slovan-bratislava-home/


Link to online ticket page

https://embed.futureticketing.ie/c/dundalk-fc/

nigel-harps1954
10/08/2019, 10:42 AM
Asked Mark Devlin about the TV coverage on Twitter. He said it was budget restraints from the TV companies as to why it's not being televised.

Imagine Eir are feeling the pinch and RTE are just not bothered. Shame really. Hopefully there'll be a live stream of some sort.

Pity Dundalk couldn't run their own paid stream like Shamrock Rovers did.

Ezeikial
10/08/2019, 11:57 AM
Pity Dundalk couldn't run their own paid stream like Shamrock Rovers did.

The circumstances and market is probably very different - the Rovers stream was for an away fixture where Cypriot TV facilities were already in place while there was a ready market among Rovers fans not travelling to Cyprus

I suspect that it's doubtful if it would be financially viable, particularly if it was diminishing the live attendance for the match

nigel-harps1954
10/08/2019, 1:44 PM
The circumstances and market is probably very different - the Rovers stream was for an away fixture where Cypriot TV facilities were already in place while there was a ready market among Rovers fans not travelling to Cyprus

I suspect that it's doubtful if it would be financially viable, particularly if it was diminishing the live attendance for the match

A single HD camera in the gantry and someone providing commentary (possibly linking up with Dundalk FM) can be run at next to no cost. If only 500 people tuned in at a fiver each, it'd be a handy bit of profit for the club.

Ezeikial
10/08/2019, 2:12 PM
A single HD camera in the gantry and someone providing commentary (possibly linking up with Dundalk FM) can be run at next to no cost. If only 500 people tuned in at a fiver each, it'd be a handy bit of profit for the club.

You may well be right that a low quality operation could be provided at low cost.

Presumably many pubs in Dundalk would sign up and provide an alternative to live attendance to their customers. Ditto for other League of Ireland fans in Dublin who might otherwise attend. If a live broadcast stream knocked only 200 people off the match attendance attracting 500 subscribers would make it a phantom profit.

There is big role for streaming in the future - with 10,000 seats available to fill in a venue 80km away from Oriel Park, this is probably not the time or place for it.

marinobohs
10/08/2019, 6:30 PM
Yeh they stated that the more money the club make the more would be available to spend on the ground (already have put in new tarmac behind goals, fixed all the seats in the Shed, fencing up in away area, New dressing rooms in YDC should be ready before end season, one best training facilities in country already done)

They are only here 18 months.

Whats your plan B cause the new Dalymount has wemt very quiet and i doubt the FAI will be in a position to give money for it anyway

DCC developing Dalymount ask them. Dalymount now in a better state than Oriel (even with new tarmac 😁) so we don’t need a plan B just yet.
Reckon there’s more chance of DCC developing a stadium than PEAK6 but I’m sure you know that.

dundalkfc10
10/08/2019, 10:02 PM
DCC developing Dalymount ask them. Dalymount now in a better state than Oriel (even with new tarmac 😁) so we don’t need a plan B just yet.
Reckon there’s more chance of DCC developing a stadium than PEAK6 but I’m sure you know that.

Well from day 1 they said it would be a good bit down the road.

They havnt lied to us about anything so far a and have done everything they stated they would.

I think il take their word

marinobohs
11/08/2019, 8:35 AM
Well from day 1 they said it would be a good bit down the road.

They havnt lied to us about anything so far a and have done everything they stated they would.

I think il take their word

Disbelieve Dublin City Council but believe a vulture fund ?
....about those magic beans, I just got more, giving you first option 😁

Dalymountrower
11/08/2019, 9:09 AM
Well from day 1 they said it would be a good bit down the road.

They havnt lied to us about anything so far a and have done everything they stated they would.

I think il take their word

They haven't promised you anything, so they've fulfilled that alright.
Their shareholders are their priority, .
Hopefully other Dundalk fans don't share your blind faith in a multi national vulture fund.

Nesta99
11/08/2019, 2:25 PM
Disbelieve Dublin City Council but believe a vulture fund ?
....about those magic beans, I just got more, giving you first option 

In fairness Peak6 are more an investment fund made up of multiple investors and not a vulture fund. Pepper are the only vulture type fund close to operating in any way in the league really. That's not to say one is better that the other in terms of potentially upping sticks albeit the 'owner' of Pepper's involvement in Rovers is much more entangled in the club so arguably more stable. A lot less ethically obtained wealth involved in Rovers for what it is worth or whether anybody really cares.

Not a lot us Dundalk fans can do except roll with the club owners with hope and faith that they are true to their word of long term involvement - good for us if they stay, bad for the league creating a significnt financial gap that all bar maybe Rovers will struggle to close without investment of their own - Galway under the Comish brothers could rise to European slots quick enough. Power has spat the dummy at Waterford in that regard for the next couple of years anyway or until eligible for a European licence.

None if any of us Dundalk fans are blind to the risks of Peak6 as our overloards. But so far so good. My particular worry will happen when we have a year or 2 out of Europe or eg if smaller leagues like LoI get excluded from Champions League like in the past where the real money is. Likewise EL2 if properly funded could see Peak6 hang about a long time. Over time the issue of Oriel's neglect will only build! But I think they are going about their busines development well. Slowly but surely, considering they are here only 18 months, the busines side of Dundalk FC is being developed. Income streams being identified and worked upon, big effort in gathering data on supporters. stakeholders in general, and where development can happen eg with family enclosures. Its a business that if a person is barely a toddler for all ther years on the go so a huge amount of work and improvement to happen before we are within an asses roar of developing Oriel Park.

dundalkfc10
11/08/2019, 6:26 PM
Disbelieve Dublin City Council but believe a vulture fund ?
....about those magic beans, I just got more, giving you first option 😁

I hope you do get a ground but if Peak leave tomorrow we have a YDC building that club owns, Best squad in Ireland, Income guaranteed for this n next season in Europe, The top players in Ireland Boyle Gannon on long deals. We will be fine

Nesta99
11/08/2019, 6:49 PM
I think you are underestimating the cost of the best squad in Ireland + cost of running a club if you think European income is all thats needed. Peak6 walk away tomorrow and we'd be seriously trimming the fat quick smart!!

Calcio Jack
11/08/2019, 6:55 PM
In fairness Peak6 are more an investment fund made up of multiple investors and not a vulture fund. Pepper are the only vulture type fund close to operating in any way in the league really. That's not to say one is better that the other in terms of potentially upping sticks albeit the 'owner' of Pepper's involvement in Rovers is much more entangled in the club so arguably more stable. A lot less ethically obtained wealth involved in Rovers for what it is worth or whether anybody really cares.




Never thought I’d see the day where LOI fans are debating which club is funded by the more ethically obtained wealth ( and as you say no one really cares) but since you mention it , if you look at the a number of types of holdings/assets P6 are invested in then you’ll see that they have multiple assets that aren’t ‘ethical’ - but as you say no one really cares

Nesta99
11/08/2019, 9:22 PM
You care enough to say it twice!

redobit
12/08/2019, 2:35 PM
So the Dundalk game against Sligo Rovers is postponed as they are to play in Eurpope 3 days later. But Dundalk played Cobh in the Cup but this game wasn't postopned even though they are playing in Europe 3 days later.

The European clubs have way to much power in postponing games to suit their own needs. It's the usual BS you hear of 'it's good for the league', 'they need to fresh', 'they need to be ready'. There is no taught of the teams who are relying on badly needed gates to keep the wolf from the door, only to hear they wont have a home game for another load of weeks. How is this a benefit to the league … wages still have to be paid.

If clubs in European games want to postpone games then fair enough, but they should have to pay for that privilege ... say €10k if they postpone an away match! That would only be a small small percentage of what a club in Europe is making but is massive to other teams who simply want to pay wages and are being given no say about their own home fixtures.

sbgawa
12/08/2019, 2:48 PM
I've yet to see anyone disagree with this even fans of the teams who are in Europe.
Its such a no brainer it explains why the fai haven't done it.