League of Ireland in Europe 2019

[sparky12345678]

Couldn't resist checking that (https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/trank2020.html)!

Level with them in the coefficient club rankings, though only because Milan have only been in Europe twice in the past five years. Mad drop off from being in the knock out stages of the Champions League six years ago.
I mean it still makes for an interesting discussion. I mean AC Milan are availing of their country's collective co-efficient. So that's where the league co-efficient can sort of also reflect the quality of the league. So based off of the clubs i mentioned in my edit;
Romania still have all 4 clubs involved.
Azerbajan still have 3 clubs
and Kazakhstan also have clubs involved.
Israel now have 3 still involved...

[pineapple stu]

I mean AC Milan are availing of their country's collective co-efficient.
I don't think they are. The club coefficient seems to be the greater of your club coefficient or the league coefficient.

So a new club in Europe will default to the country coefficient. Clubs whose own coefficient is less than the national coefficient also default to the national one (see Southampton, West Ham, Burnley and Everton) But Milan and Qarabag have both earned their 19 points, based I think off the rounds they reached in Europe rather than the wins/draws they got.

Though I don't understand why Liverpool scored 29 points for winning the CL last year, while Barcelona and Chelsea scored 30 points, as did Liverpool last year when finishing runner-up in the CL.

El-Pietro will explain all if he pops by!

[sparky12345678]

I don't think they are. The club coefficient seems to be the greater of your club coefficient or the league coefficient.

So a new club in Europe will default to the country coefficient. Clubs whose own coefficient is less than the national coefficient also default to the national one (see Southampton, West Ham, Burnley and Everton) But Milan and Qarabag have both earned their 19 points, based I think off the rounds they reached in Europe rather than the wins/draws they got.

Though I don't understand why Liverpool scored 29 points for winning the CL last year, while Barcelona and Chelsea scored 30 points, as did Liverpool last year when finishing runner-up in the CL.

El-Pietro will explain all if he pops by!

aha yes ur right a new Italian club would get 11.63.
If AC Milan were to have made it to the group stages of the CL they would be in the 4th pot where Atalanta currently are. In the Europa league they would likely sit in the 3rd pot depending on other teams etc.
the 4 leagues getting 4 automatic places somewhat distorts the value of consistency and performing well I feel. I preferred the more graduated way it had been before...

[paul_oshea]

Is this game on TV tomorrow(today)?

[joey B]

Is this game on TV tomorrow(today)?

Eir Sport

[D24Saint]

Some Dundalk players nearly got nicked for taking photographs. This is the problem with letting these fruity country's into UEFA.

[Real ale Madrid]

Though I don't understand why Liverpool scored 29 points for winning the CL last year, while Barcelona and Chelsea scored 30 points, as did Liverpool last year when finishing runner-up in the CL.

El-Pietro will explain all if he pops by!

Liverpool lost 3 games in the group stages.


For 2018/19 matches onwards

UEFA Champions League points system
Group stage participation – 4 points
Group stage win – 2 points
Group stage draw – 1 point
Round of 16 participation – 4 points

Clubs are awarded an additional point if they reach the round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals or final.

N.B. Points are not awarded for elimination in the qualifying rounds or play-offs, since those clubs move to the UEFA Europa League and are awarded points for participation in that competition.


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[Ezeikial]

Some Dundalk players nearly got nicked for taking photographs. This is the problem with letting these fruity country's into UEFA.

Presumably the players were taking photos of the Irish journos & snappers? Outrageous behaviour

[oriel]

Some Dundalk players nearly got nicked for taking photographs. This is the problem with letting these fruity country's into UEFA.

Brilliant description !

[pineapple stu]

Dundalk are still sponsored by fruit, yeah?

[dundalkfc10]

Some Dundalk players nearly got nicked for taking photographs. This is the problem with letting these fruity country's into UEFA.

No they were not. Police came and told RTE, Dundalk that they couldnt do interviews/photo op's on the prominade without a permit.

Situation was resolved in a minute but dont let the truth get in the way of a good story

[RathfarnhamHoop]

No they were not. Police came and told RTE, Dundalk that they couldnt do interviews/photo op's on the prominade without a permit.

Situation was resolved in a minute but dont let the truth get in the way of a good story

You know that's how Gannon described it yeah? As in he said they were nearly nicked

[NeverFeltBetter]

All seems innocuous enough from the RTE report ("a minor misunderstanding" it was called). Azerbaijan has a pretty poor reputation on press freedom and treatment of journalists (albeit it's mostly directed at Azerbaijani journalists), I can imagine any encounter a journalist has with Azerbaijani authorities could be nerve-wracking.

[paul_oshea]

Cheers. I had assumed it would be played at the three sided Azersun. Seems as though they have a choice over a few Stadiums in the city of Baku. Early start vital for Dundalk. Not absolutely necessary, but the earlier to get at these guys and let them know it won't be easy would be lovely to see.

I actually think early start is not vital and the opposite, if Dundalk go down a goal in the first 15 is it not a bad thing. I think if they go down 1 0 midway through the second half it is a bad thing.

[sbgawa]

had a decent bet on dundalk at 4/1 on Paddypower to qualify.
If they score its not a 4/1 shot ...value bet but i have to say on balance i am not feeling positive for Dundalk or Rovers.
The bookies have Appollon at 3/10 on to win and they don't often suffer from bias

[paul_oshea]

No they were not. Police came and told RTE, Dundalk that they couldnt do interviews/photo op's on the prominade without a permit.

Situation was resolved in a minute but dont let the truth get in the way of a good story

Azeris wouldnt let it finish in a minute. The only right countries in this area are Armenia and Georgia, any of the Turk language stans or jans are dodgy and its never just a simple "good ladeens be on with you"

[dundalkfc10]

You know that's how Gannon described it yeah? As in he said they were nearly nicked

Gannon was laughing about it in the interview and said nearly had be bailed out and started laughing and said ah it was nothing really, so i did hear the interview

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Gannon was laughing about it in the interview and said nearly had be bailed out and started laughing and said ah it was nothing really, so i did hear the interview

So why jump down the throat of someone for saying the exact same thing as Gannon.

[brendy_éire]

Some Dundalk players nearly got nicked for taking photographs. This is the problem with letting these fruity country's into UEFA.

Can't exactly stop them, they're entitled to be members.
We could feck out Israel, Cyprus and Armenia though.

Just going from Derry's high 20s experiences in recent years in Turkey and Belarus, we struggled come the second half. It was notable last year, when we needed one goal to go through against Dinamo Minsk, we just didn't really have that final, all-out push for a goal in the last 10 minutes. The players were wrecked. The game almost fizzled out.
I'd fear the same for our clubs this week.

[Charlie Darwin]

Can't exactly stop them, they're entitled to be members.
We could feck out Israel, Cyprus and Armenia though.
I'll get back to you with my updated opinion by around 8pm tomorrow night.

[pateen]

Link to the game anyone?

Mobdro not working

[pineapple stu]

Skorlive?

Dundalk all over the shop early on

[Real ale Madrid]

https://www.skorlive.com/soccer

[pineapple stu]

This could be a hammering.

Only consolation is that it's going along similar lines as the home leg

[D24Saint]

Tough start to affairs for Dundalk.

[ger121]

Always felt the 3rd EL qualifying round was the best route to the Playoffs, rather than via the CL. Would be surprised if either side got past APOEL.

[joey B]

Couldn't say Dundalk are under the cosh,but can't make any inroads going forward....

[D24Saint]

Can only imagine that conditions are having an influence.

[paul_oshea]

Poor fare. Dundalk seem lethargic. Not able play or move the ball fast. Shields only one looking like he can stick the pace.

Hopefully these lads tire again on 70. Dundalk still in it. But another poor goal to give away.

[White Horse]

Dundalk are still in the game but need to find a few extra gears.

Hoare looks lost in midfield and I hope Sean Murray comes on in the second half.

[Real ale Madrid]

As good and all as Qarabag are, they've made he same mistake as last week and not put the game away when on top. Dundalk are still in this.

[paul_oshea]

Hoare and mclleney aren't good enough. Murray made a big difference when he came on last week

[paul_oshea]

As good and all as Qarabag are, they've made he same mistake as last week and not put the game away when on top. Dundalk are still in this.

I wouldn't say on top so much but controlling the game yea.

[White Horse]

What is a Rovers fan doing in Baku?

[bennocelt]

oh man that was unlucky for Dundalk, game a repeat of last week

[ger121]

Dundalk really need to go for it now.

[White Horse]

Cleary outstanding in defence all night.

[patrickccfc]

Game over...

[bennocelt]

that was awful defending, ffs, clears it straight across rather than along the line.

[paul_oshea]

Duffy's got to see that out or else blast it up the line. Poor marking.

It's similar to legia but legia were more dangerous than these lads.

[ger121]

I hear Bratislava is lovely this time of year.

[paul_oshea]

Beaten by the better team. Nothing wrong with that just a pity 2 of the 3 goals were easily stoppable

[sbgawa]

Dundalk have been really dissapointing tonight,
Looked very tired in the conditions, suspect rovers will also struggle in the heat tommorow. Appolon will play it around.

[ger121]

That’s the gap to the next level in CL qualifying.

[paul_oshea]

The heat is not a gap to the next level. Heat affects everyone the same.

[ger121]

The heat is not a gap to the next level. Heat affects everyone the same.

Was not referring to the heat. Was referring to the performance of Qarabeg in the 2nd leg. These are the teams they need to beat to make it to the next round.

[sbgawa]

I think the Spanish and argentinian players would be a bit more used to it.

[bennocelt]

No shame losing to Qarabag, they are a half decent team. Without seeing Bratislava, Id be surprised if they give Dundalk a tougher game than Qarabag

[White Horse]

No complaints. The much better team over two rounds won comfortably.

Dundalk are miles away from the level that is needed to progress in the Champions League.

[CorribsideSteve]

As expected really. Just outclassed. The 2nd goal was just such a gift though. The tie was dead then. Dundalk never looked like scoring except for the attempted back heel chance. Qarabag look good enough to make play-offs at least. Not all over for Dundalk though, but Bratislava won't be much, if any, easier a tie.