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ArFella
26/07/2019, 3:12 PM
The ever reliable Wikipedia also lists the surface as "grass"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalga_Arena

Is it the same as the grass that the lads in the shed have?

RathfarnhamHoop
26/07/2019, 3:24 PM
Is it the same as the grass that the lads in the shed have?

Qarabag seem to use loads of different stadiums. The one they're playing Dundalk in seems like it used to be artificial pitch but was converted to grass a few years back

Nesta99
26/07/2019, 3:36 PM
Really? Their manager was complaining about playing on an artificial pitch at Oriel before the first leg so I'd be amazed/confused if they turned around and played on an artificial surface.

EDIT: According to UEFA the match is being played in the Dalga Arena and after some digging I found this article which mentions it changed from artificial turf to natural prior to hosting the UEFA u17s Championship in 2016

http://www.affa.az/index.php/news/dalga-arena-turf-has-been-changed-photos/57379

I was wondering about that myself. Dunno whether it's true or not but the rumour was that they werent happy with the changing rooms and left Oriel to go back to the hotel to get ready and that their manager was moaning about the pitch. General consensus was that it was all a good thing if they weren't feeling too much at home during their away leg!! ;)

The incident where their keeper misjudged the bounce of the ball everyone on the Carrick Road end could see happening in almost slow motion. He came out to collect the high ball dropping but never looked like getting there, you could even see the spin on the ball and that its was going to move goalward if it bounced. Better anticipation from Dundalk players and it could have fashioned a chance. People would have been pointing at the pitch for the keepers error but he completely misjudged the flight of the ball and if was playing on sand would still have been in bother. He spilled a couple of shots too so should be tested early on in the away leg!

Ezeikial
26/07/2019, 3:38 PM
Qarabag seem to use loads of different stadiums. The one they're playing Dundalk in seems like it used to be artificial pitch but was converted to grass a few years back

I know that some have doubted your reading and comprehension abilities in the past, but that is surely dispelled now.

Being able to paraphrase ArFella's earlier post so concisely is impressive



Really? Their manager was complaining about playing on an artificial pitch at Oriel before the first leg so I'd be amazed/confused if they turned around and played on an artificial surface.

EDIT: According to UEFA the match is being played in the Dalga Arena and after some digging I found this article which mentions it changed from artificial turf to natural prior to hosting the UEFA u17s Championship in 2016

http://www.affa.az/index.php/news/dalga-arena-turf-has-been-changed-photos/57379

Nesta99
26/07/2019, 3:52 PM
This Rovers vs Dundalk Europa League final is going to be mental.

Play the final in Tallaght - if Dundalk won the toss to be the home side Asterix would spontaneously combust!!

RathfarnhamHoop
26/07/2019, 3:55 PM
I know that some have doubted your reading and comprehension abilities in the past, but that is surely dispelled now.

Being able to paraphrase ArFella's earlier post so concisely is impressive

This may be a bit beyond your limited brain capacity but try keep up. I saw ArFellas post before it was edited, the thread then moved onto the next page and I didn't go back through the whole thread to see if anyone had edited their reply to mention it before posting my reply, sue me, or better yet just **** off.

oriel
26/07/2019, 3:58 PM
Really? Their manager was complaining about playing on an artificial pitch at Oriel before the first leg so I'd be amazed/confused if they turned around and played on an artificial surface.

EDIT: According to UEFA the match is being played in the Dalga Arena and after some digging I found this article which mentions it changed from artificial turf to natural prior to hosting the UEFA u17s Championship in 2016

http://www.affa.az/index.php/news/dalga-arena-turf-has-been-changed-photos/57379

I may have got that wrong then re Qarabag and their pitch.

Nesta99
26/07/2019, 4:04 PM
7 of 35 listed football grounds in Azerbaijan have artificial pitches so Qarabag are undoubtedly well used to them. Eh the Ganja Stadium is most definitely grass!

Ezeikial
26/07/2019, 4:33 PM
This may be a bit beyond your limited brain capacity but try keep up. I saw ArFellas post before it was edited, the thread then moved onto the next page and I didn't go back through the whole thread to see if anyone had edited their reply to mention it before posting my reply, sue me, or better yet just **** off.

Relax RH, I think you did very well

sbgawa
26/07/2019, 4:46 PM
Play the final in Tallaght - if Dundalk won the toss to be the home side Asterix was spontaneously combust!!

Play the final in a neutral venue , the DCCS or Inchicore , actually to hell with it lets go for the Aviva

Martinho II
26/07/2019, 5:15 PM
Was the Shamrock Rovers game a complete sellout lads and what was the attendance?
a friend of mine posted online that Eir have an annoying habit of having the crowd noise a lot lower than it should be! and there was I thinking it was the quality of my TV when watching the Dundalk game live!

Ezeikial
26/07/2019, 5:23 PM
Bradley has won 40% of his games as manager in Europe, quite impressive, here's how he rates among LOI managers that managed at least 10 games in Europe:



MANAGER
GAMES
WIN%


Paul Doolin
12
42%


Stephen Bradley
10
40%


Pat Fenlon
35
31%


Pete Mahon
10
30%


Royden Prole
10
30%


Stephen Kenny
44
27%


John Caulfield
16
25%


Damien Richardson
32
22%


Liam Buckley
26
19%


Michael O'Neill
16
19%


Billy Young
22
18%


Dave Bacuzzi
12
17%


Liam Tuohy
14
14%


Jim McLaughlin
28
14%


Gerry Doyle
11
9%


Dermot Keely
18
6%


Turlough O'Connor
20
0%




The legendary Pat Dolan seems to be missing - last season's Airtricity League european competitions media guide credited him with an identical win record as Paul Doolin with 5 wins from 12 matches

RathfarnhamHoop
26/07/2019, 5:27 PM
Was the Shamrock Rovers game a complete sellout lads and what was the attendance?
a friend of mine posted online that Eir have an annoying habit of having the crowd noise a lot lower than it should be! and there was I thinking it was the quality of my TV when watching the Dundalk game live!

5,524 was the official attendance given. There were probably only around 24 away fans there.

Don't think Eir actually do that, it's just when you're in the middle of it all it obviously seems louder.

bennocelt
26/07/2019, 6:19 PM
How are Qarabag a fair step above Limassol. It obviouly hard to judge since they havn't played each other and aren't in the same league but their european records are fairly similar, both regualrs in group stages and get some decent results against some better known teams.

LOL, did you see both games? Qarabag could have scored 4 goals in the first half alone, and were streets ahead of Dundalk. That's why Dundalk did so well to get a result in that game. It was the way Qarabag were set up, their linkage and passing that shows they are a class team.

Limassol were well beatable in the Rovers game, id be disappointed if Rovers had not have gotten the win in the end. And they didn't look half the team Qarabag are. I wouldn't be surprised if Rovers snatched a result in Cyprus.

Games are not won or lost on paper...........

RathfarnhamHoop
26/07/2019, 6:44 PM
LOL, did you see both games? Qarabag could have scored 4 goals in the first half alone, and were streets ahead of Dundalk. That's why Dundalk did so well to get a result in that game. It was the way Qarabag were set up, their linkage and passing that shows they are a class team.

Limassol were well beatable in the Rovers game, id be disappointed if Rovers had not have gotten the win in the end. And they didn't look half the team Qarabag are. I wouldn't be surprised if Rovers snatched a result in Cyprus.

Games are not won or lost on paper...........

You can't really judge who's the tougher opponent based off how they performed against the LOI sides. Personally think they're pretty equal, as are Rovers and Dundalk, Qarabag have a much easier league which helps their coefficient as they've won 6 leagues in a row so that's 6 years of champions league coefficient points but they both have similar records as far as reaching group stages goes with 4 europa group appearances each since 2010 and Qarabag have a champion league group appearance in addition to that, so in my opinion there's not much between them.

TheBoss
26/07/2019, 7:01 PM
The legendary Pat Dolan seems to be missing - last season's Airtricity League european competitions media guide credited him with an identical win record as Paul Doolin with 5 wins from 12 matches

Well spotted! Modified it now. Don't know how I missed him. He is there in my records, just forgot to add him I suppose. Cheers!

bennocelt
26/07/2019, 7:24 PM
You can't really judge who's the tougher opponent based off how they performed against the LOI sides. Personally think they're pretty equal, as are Rovers and Dundalk, Qarabag have a much easier league which helps their coefficient as they've won 6 leagues in a row so that's 6 years of champions league coefficient points but they both have similar records as far as reaching group stages goes with 4 europa group appearances each since 2010 and Qarabag have a champion league group appearance in addition to that, so in my opinion there's not much between them.


Well I disagree, looking at both teams for the first time I think Qarabag are as good a team as Dundalk have played in recent times, up there with that Russian team and Legia were good in parts, any of the Cypriot teams that have played LOI teams in the past have always looked beatable. Don't care about stats, sorry.

RathfarnhamHoop
26/07/2019, 7:30 PM
Well I disagree, looking at both teams for the first time I think Qarabag are as good a team as Dundalk have played in recent times, up there with that Russian team and Legia were good in parts, any of the Cypriot teams that have played LOI teams in the past have always looked beatable. Don't care about stats, sorry.

There are far too many variables involved to form an option based of one game. Using more than one piece of data to form your opinion is literally rule number one of analysis.

Ezeikial
26/07/2019, 7:39 PM
You can't really judge who's the tougher opponent based off how they performed against the LOI sides. Personally think they're pretty equal, as are Rovers and Dundalk, Qarabag have a much easier league which helps their coefficient as they've won 6 leagues in a row so that's 6 years of champions league coefficient points but they both have similar records as far as reaching group stages goes with 4 europa group appearances each since 2010 and Qarabag have a champion league group appearance in addition to that, so in my opinion there's not much between them.

This is a nonsensical comparison.

Your perception or measurement of 'pretty equal' is obviously suspect when you declare Rovers and Dundalk in that category despite the current 5 point / game-in-hand gap, a whopping 25 point gap last season and an average of over 17 points a season over the last 6 years.

The current Bert kassie UEFA 5-year Club Ranking 2020 comparison is equally conclusive with Dundalk (8.500 points) having over double the Rovers ranking points (3.750)


0.50
0.25
0.50
1.00
1.50
3.750


1.00
3.00
1.00
1.50
2.00
8.500



If you feel unable to judge the respective qualities of Apollan Limasol and Qarabeg on the subjective evidence of the matches this week, a similar UEFA 5-year Club Ranking comparison is fairly conclusive. While both teams have qualified in each of the last 5 years, Qarabag have been significantly the higher acheivers with 19.000 ranking points



3.00
5.00
6.00
3.00
2.00
19.000





1.00
1.00
3.00
5.00
1.50
11.500




Rovers achievement in beating Apollan on Thursday was brilliant. Celebrate it and look forward to the realistic possibility of qualifying for the next round. The Apollan - Qarabag nonsensical comparison is not necessary to try to elevate what is widely acknowledged as a tremendous result

RathfarnhamHoop
26/07/2019, 8:15 PM
This is a nonsensical comparison.

Your perception or measurement of 'pretty equal' is obviously suspect when you declare Rovers and Dundalk in that category despite the current 5 point / game-in-hand gap, a whopping 25 point gap last season and an average of over 17 points a season over the last 6 years.

The current Bert kassie UEFA 5-year Club Ranking 2020 comparison is equally conclusive with Dundalk (8.500 points) having over double the Rovers ranking points (3.750)


0.50
0.25
0.50
1.00
1.50
3.750


1.00
3.00
1.00
1.50
2.00
8.500



If you feel unable to judge the respective qualities of Apollan Limasol and Qarabeg on the subjective evidence of the matches this week, a similar UEFA 5-year Club Ranking comparison is fairly conclusive. While both teams have qualified in each of the last 5 years, Qarabag have been significantly the higher acheivers with 19.000 ranking points



3.00
5.00
6.00
3.00
2.00
19.000





1.00
1.00
3.00
5.00
1.50
11.500




Rovers achievement in beating Apollan on Thursday was brilliant. Celebrate it and look forward to the realistic possibility of qualifying for the next round. The Apollan - Qarabag nonsensical comparison is not necessary to try to elevate what is widely acknowledged as a tremendous result

All the games between the two clubs have been pretty even, even the one when rovers were missing half a squad. There was nothing in either game in Tallaght. I feel safe in saying a neutral would call Dundalk and Rovers pretty even.

Who's better Porto or Ajax?
QED

It's not nonsensical, Qarabag have basically guaranteed access to the Champions league every year because the rest of the league is pretty poor whereas in Cyprus there's Larnaca and Apoel to compete with so they don't have that safety net so have to win every round to get into the groups.

bennocelt
26/07/2019, 8:29 PM
There are far too many variables involved to form an option based of one game. Using more than one piece of data to form your opinion is literally rule number one of analysis.

Living in Switzerland I am fortunate (or unfortunate) to get to see 6, if u include Lichtenstein, Swiss leagues teams on TV (and sometimes up close) battle it out in Europe year in year out. From watching these games, mostly Europea games, rounds where the LOI teams have yet to reach I can tell you the general standard of most of the games is pish poor. A lot of it has to do with too many games and lack of interest so most of the time I am watching teams half heartedly play football to half empty stadiums. The novelty of Europa league football year in year out has long gone for a lot of fans here. And not just here, but for a lot of mid ranking countries who will never win a big euro title. For example, last season once basel dropped into the EL, they couldn't even give away the tickets. The interest and level of skill and entertainment only rises if a team gets anywhere near the latter stages, and by that stage the big four nations teams (Italy, Eng, Spa, ger) then also take an interest. So I am saying a lot of the games in the Europea are piddle, but I am not sure what the stats would tell me on that.............

Apollon Limassol knocked Basel out last year, they were well worth it too, sucker punching us on the break. But it was more to do with Basel been **** last season than how good AL were.

So yes I think Qarabag are good. :D

oriel
26/07/2019, 9:39 PM
Well I disagree, looking at both teams for the first time I think Qarabag are as good a team as Dundalk have played in recent times, up there with that Russian team and Legia were good in parts, any of the Cypriot teams that have played LOI teams in the past have always looked beatable. Don't care about stats, sorry.

Qarabag were the best team Dundalk played since Zenit St Petersberg. Their technique especially in the first half was way ahead of any side I have seen visiting these shores in recent years in europe.

bennocelt
26/07/2019, 10:19 PM
Qarabag were the best team Dundalk played since Zenit St Petersberg. Their technique especially in the first half was way ahead of any side I have seen visiting these shores in recent years in europe.

Yeah that's how I saw it, and as some Dundalk fan already mentioned here, the fans knew it too, hence the huge cheer when Hoban scored. I imagine they wilted in the second half due to a lack of full time training, and Id say next week they will be that much fitter. You would be amazed how much a team can improve in one week in terms of match fitness.........(re Cork V Genk as a good example)

oriel
26/07/2019, 10:35 PM
They were so good, at HT I was almost ordering a brandy to calm myself instead of a pint of harp ! We honestly thought they would have destroyed us in the second half.

No doubt they will be thinking they are almost home and dry, but if Dundalk can put in a performance like away to Legia (they only equalised in injury time), we might have a chance, its a very tall order though.

Dundalk have had some excellent away results in recent years, but not many wins, the standout was a 2-1 win in Split in 2014, that would do, next best were 1-1 draws v Alkmaar and Legia, but the away wins have been rare, in Lux (twice) & Tallin (once) so its going to need something extra special.

Another stat which is chilling, and just shows how hard any win is in europe for any Irish side (credit Rovers having two already this season), is Dundalk's last home win in either the EC / CL was as far back as 1979, v Hibs of Malta.

Nesta99
27/07/2019, 8:43 AM
All the games between the two clubs have been pretty even, even the one when rovers were missing half a squad. There was nothing in either game in Tallaght. I feel safe in saying a neutral would call Dundalk and Rovers pretty even.

Who's better Porto or Ajax?
QED

It's not nonsensical, Qarabag have basically guaranteed access to the Champions league every year because the rest of the league is pretty poor whereas in Cyprus there's Larnaca and Apoel to compete with so they don't have that safety net so have to win every round to get into the groups.

These sort of p1ssing match debates only go round in circles as the subjective nature takes over. But honestly to refer to Rovers missing half a squad for any game against us this season and not to consider that Dundalk had to cobble together an entire midfield and play injured players for what is almost half a season squished in to the first 3 months, isnt very balanced observation.

Nobody is taking away from Rovers result, Dundalk escaped with a draw just about. Aside from what the stats indicate, more neutral observers would in all likelyhood think that there was more about Qarabag. I'm not sure what yer getting at with the 6 titles in a row etc - its possible that Dundalk could have 5 from 6 seasons and you cant say it wasnt competative for the most part or (almost) guaranteed access to CL each year as it might look to the outsider. Anyway we all know that Rovers up their game and bust a gut to beat us - have to considering the Derby games are a forgone conclusion!! ;)

sbgawa
27/07/2019, 10:07 AM
Can we not go back to loving each other on this thread, it's only 1

RathfarnhamHoop
27/07/2019, 3:08 PM
These sort of p1ssing match debates only go round in circles as the subjective nature takes over. But honestly to refer to Rovers missing half a squad for any game against us this season and not to consider that Dundalk had to cobble together an entire midfield and play injured players for what is almost half a season squished in to the first 3 months, isnt very balanced observation.

Nobody is taking away from Rovers result, Dundalk escaped with a draw just about. Aside from what the stats indicate, more neutral observers would in all likelyhood think that there was more about Qarabag. I'm not sure what yer getting at with the 6 titles in a row etc - its possible that Dundalk could have 5 from 6 seasons and you cant say it wasnt competative for the most part or (almost) guaranteed access to CL each year as it might look to the outsider. Anyway we all know that Rovers up their game and bust a gut to beat us - have to considering the Derby games are a forgone conclusion!! ;)

I'm not trying to get into any sort of ****ing contest. Dundalk didn't exactly have cobbled together midfields against Rovers now did they? As a reminder the midfields for the first two were Shields, Murray, McGrath and Shields, McGrath McEleney. Whereas Rovers had a 16 year old left back and an attacking midfielder at right back and a bench with an average age of 19 years old, that's a completely different level. My whole point was that Rovers and Dundalk are pretty equal this season which I think the two Tallaght games have shown.

What stats show it? The coefficient that also says Porto are 7 places and 11.500 points better than Ajax? What I'm getting at with the 6 in a row thing is that when you're in the champions league its a lot easier to qualify for one of the group stages and to build up the coefficient. Just for the record Qarabag average winning the league by 0.35 points per game, for comparison Dundalk's average is 0.22, That's a big difference. Once in the group stages their records are actually pretty similar. As I've said already you can't judge a team based off watching one game there are far too many variables involved to do that, including Rovers potentially just finding out their opposition quicker than Dundalk theirs. As for the last sentence the same goes for the other way too. Breaking news: Top two teams want to beat each other. None of this takes anything away from Dundalk but it is seriously worrying the way you guys take suck exception to anything short of absolute praise and even praise of other clubs/players.

Ezeikial
27/07/2019, 3:24 PM
My whole point was that Rovers and Dundalk are pretty equal this season which I think the two Tallaght games have shown.

What stats show it? .

1 point from 3 matches between the sides shows Rovers remain far from equal

marinobohs
27/07/2019, 4:24 PM
1 point from 3 matches between the sides shows Rovers remain far from equal

But OTHER than that they were the same 😀

ontheotherhand
27/07/2019, 5:50 PM
But OTHER than that they were the same 😀

Marino shouldnt you be taking a break from the internet after your embarrassing display in the other thread? This is for european games anyway. Not really something you need to worry about as a proud underachiever.

Nesta would you not say you got out of our last meeting with a lucky 3 points no? Most would. Best ive seen us play against you and I think its a sign the gap is closing. Made you look pretty normal for the first time in years. Bar gannon. Unreal player. The one that got away.

On the field things are even enough . On the league table its another matter but thats down to our games against the hipsters. Wed be top if we managed to put them away.

As for missing players.... You brought in a lad who was starting for watford as a replacement.. Among others. I dont think anyone would buy that dundalk have limited depth. Shields and benson are great players but you coped just fine. Almost have two league winning elevens up there to pick from whereas rovers were fielding kids. We've added depth now with cummins, farrugia and oneill. Bench starting to look better which we need. 14 man game and all that. Dundalk still so stacked though and it will probably carry you to another league. Congrats if so.

The AP v Qarabag debate is a bit silly but a neutral would probably look at the Cypriot league being ranked above the Azerbaijani along with AP beating lazio and marseille in europe last year whereas Q, while qualifying impressively to the CL group stages, didn't exactly set the world alight when there. The club coefficient tells a different story but we know all the coefficient stuff is a bit problematic, league and club alike. Footballs about more than points or we wouldn't bother watching it!

Two good sides though, with great pedigree in europe and both our sides will be doing well to go through. Think rovers are handling it better so far in that they are winning games, but dundalk find ways to win even when they arent playing well. That's why they are champions elect.

Good luck with qarabag. On balance id rather you dropped into the europa but in the spirit of football supporters sticking together.....

marinobohs
27/07/2019, 8:15 PM
Marino shouldnt you be taking a break from the internet after your embarrassing display in the other thread? This is for european games anyway. Not really something you need to worry about as a proud underachiever.

Nesta would you not say you got out of our last meeting with a lucky 3 points no? Most would. Best ive seen us play against you and I think its a sign the gap is closing. Made you look pretty normal for the first time in years. Bar gannon. Unreal player. The one that got away.

On the field things are even enough . On the league table its another matter but thats down to our games against the hipsters. Wed be top if we managed to put them away.

As for missing players.... You brought in a lad who was starting for watford as a replacement.. Among others. I dont think anyone would buy that dundalk have limited depth. Shields and benson are great players but you coped just fine. Almost have two league winning elevens up there to pick from whereas rovers were fielding kids. We've added depth now with cummins, farrugia and oneill. Bench starting to look better which we need. 14 man game and all that. Dundalk still so stacked though and it will probably carry you to another league. Congrats if so.

The AP v Qarabag debate is a bit silly but a neutral would probably look at the Cypriot league being ranked above the Azerbaijani along with AP beating lazio and marseille in europe last year whereas Q, while qualifying impressively to the CL group stages, didn't exactly set the world alight when there. The club coefficient tells a different story but we know all the coefficient stuff is a bit problematic, league and club alike. Footballs about more than points or we wouldn't bother watching it!

Two good sides though, with great pedigree in europe and both our sides will be doing well to go through. Think rovers are handling it better so far in that they are winning games, but dundalk find ways to win even when they arent playing well. That's why they are champions elect.

Good luck with qarabag. On balance id rather you dropped into the europa but in the spirit of football supporters sticking together.....

Oh dear, obviously not up to date 😁 Maybe check out how the "Kearns is innocent "campaign is going before coming in here spouting rubbish.
Anyone care to tell him ?
BTW underachieving is better than going bankrupt and misappropriatibg tax payers money don't you think ?

ontheotherhand
27/07/2019, 8:22 PM
Oh dear, obviously not up to date 😁 Maybe check out how the "Kearns is innocent "campaign is going before coming in here spouting rubbish.
Anyone care to tell him ?
BTW underachieving is better than going bankrupt and misappropriatibg tax payers money don't you think ?

Ill leave you to it. You have a tremendous ability to lose debates all on your own and without the help of adult supervision.

marinobohs
27/07/2019, 10:22 PM
Ill leave you to it. You have a tremendous ability to lose debates all on your own and without the help of adult supervision.
Four. More. Games 😁
Maybe your adult supervisor can explain it to you.

ontheotherhand
27/07/2019, 11:28 PM
Four. More. Games 😁
Maybe your adult supervisor can explain it to you.

PM me if you'd like. You can explain what you are trying to say and i'll show you again why it doesn't work. Happy to help a student. It will save everyone else the spectacle of you posting inconsistent ramblings to the point you get threatened with a ban.

Unless you have something to say about european football that's useful?

sbgawa
27/07/2019, 11:47 PM
Lads has anyone considered the possibility that marinobohs is special needs ?
I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt.

ontheotherhand
28/07/2019, 12:32 AM
Lads has anyone considered the possibility that marinobohs is special needs ?
I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt.

Honestly, im only responding to him because he implied he was a student and its entertaining/alarming to see his lack of clarity. I usually don't engage with internet wums because you never know the backstory.

sbgawa
28/07/2019, 8:30 AM
The bookies who don't do bias have a good idea of how difficult a job dundalk and Rovers have.
Quarabag are 1/5 ON to qualify for the next round and while they haven't put up odds yet for the Europa league matches (other than straight match odds,) they have Appolon 4/9 ON to win the match .
Dundalk have a safety net but it is strongly likely we will have both teams lose the next leg, either team progressing would be a massive accoplishment

Ezeikial
28/07/2019, 10:13 AM
On the field things are even enough . On the league table its another matter but thats down to our games against the hipsters. Wed be top if we managed to put them away.


So your saying that Rovers would be top if they had won 3 of the games that they lost?

For Finn Harps their number is only 13.

Fine margins, huh?

ontheotherhand
28/07/2019, 3:09 PM
So your saying that Rovers would be top if they had won 3 of the games that they lost?

For Finn Harps their number is only 13.

Fine margins, huh?

Fine indeed. The width of a crossbar, a shoelace on Danny Mandrouis boot or so often in your own case, the whim of a referee in the dying minutes of a game when a dundalk player goes tumbling to the ground after a particularly violent gust of wind.

The clearest example of how much the gap has closed is probably not in the head to heads, on field battles or relative gathering of points by the finest of margins though - it's in how much you seem to post about Rovers versus any other topic. Methinks the lad doth post too much..........maybe you're getting worried?

Ezeikial
28/07/2019, 4:01 PM
Fine indeed. The width of a crossbar, a shoelace on Danny Mandrouis boot or so often in your own case, the whim of a referee in the dying minutes of a game when a dundalk player goes tumbling to the ground after a particularly violent gust of wind.

The clearest example of how much the gap has closed is probably not in the head to heads, on field battles or relative gathering of points by the finest of margins though - it's in how much you seem to post about Rovers versus any other topic. Methinks the lad doth post too much..........maybe you're getting worried?


My loathing of all things Rovers has been consistent for a long time. If Rovers fans keep posting their delusional fantasy, I'm likely to continue to set the record straight or call out this sort of nonsense

Rovers have narrowed some gaps, by their own very pathetic standard in recent years - the distance to the top of the table has been 22 to 25 points in each of the last 3 season.

Rovers current 2.04 points per match average in 2019 (51 points from 25 matches) would not have got them above 3rd place in any of those seasons.

Rovers have a lot more improvement to make before I'm likely to get even mildly worried

marinobohs
28/07/2019, 4:55 PM
Honestly, im only responding to him because he implied he was a student and its entertaining/alarming to see his lack of clarity. I usually don't engage with internet wums because you never know the backstory.

A student ? WTF are you on ? I was in Belfield to see Bohs playing UCD 😳
There really is no cure for that level of stupid.

sbgawa
28/07/2019, 4:57 PM
Fine indeed. The width of a crossbar, a shoelace on Danny Mandrouis boot or so often in your own case, the whim of a referee in the dying minutes of a game when a dundalk player goes tumbling to the ground after a particularly violent gust of wind.

The clearest example of how much the gap has closed is probably not in the head to heads, on field battles or relative gathering of points by the finest of margins though - it's in how much you seem to post about Rovers versus any other topic. Methinks the lad doth post too much..........maybe you're getting worried?

Why are you wasting your time with this troll it's like wrestling with a pig, it's pointless and you are only going to end up covered in muck.
Most of the dundalk posters have pm me to agree he is an embarrassment to them. Imagine what he will be like when dundalk slip, probably disappear.

Ezeikial
28/07/2019, 5:15 PM
Why are you wasting your time with this troll it's like wrestling with a pig, it's pointless and you are only going to end up covered in muck.
Most of the dundalk posters have pm me to agree he is an embarrassment to them. Imagine what he will be like when dundalk slip, probably disappear.

The very epitome of a pointless post - posting to encourage others not to discuss something that they have already posted and been called out on!

It does prompt me to update an earlier post



Rovers current 2.04 points per match average in 2019 (51 points from 25 matches) would not have got them above 3rd place in any of those seasons.


Following todays draw in Cork, Rovers current average of 2.0 points per match would not have achieved a top two league finish in any year since 2012

A poor Drogheda team took second place that season; Cork's demise appears to have opened the door for Rovers to emulate that Drogheda 2012 performance

Nah Nah Nah Nah
28/07/2019, 5:26 PM
That Drogheda team was one of the greatest to ever play the game

ontheotherhand
28/07/2019, 6:16 PM
A student ? WTF are you on ? I was in Belfield to see Bohs playing UCD 😳
There really is no cure for that level of stupid.

You're saying this online version of you is you fully matured? Going to stick you on the ignore list so.

Ezekial, is at least replying with reasonable evidence backing up his point, even if he seems a bit clouded by loathing. It is a bit odd that a person defines themselves by hatred of another club rather than love of their own but Dundalk are a fairly unloveable outfit.....

This weekends game are a case in point for how close it's gotten. Close but Dundalk still stronger. Dundalk digging out a result against Pats even when they didn't very play well whereas Rovers dominated Cork but couldn't get 3 points. If we had one of Hoban or Kelly the league table might look a lot different but we have Aaron Greene.....god love him he tries but he just can't finish under any sort of pressure at all. Maybe we won't fix that next year but if we do I'd think it will be a longer and more competitive title race. Would think Dundalk have it wrapped up now. Maybe we will meet each other in the Europa League final for some revenge.

ToberonaTornado
28/07/2019, 6:35 PM
You're saying this online version of you is you fully matured? Going to stick you on the ignore list so.

Ezekial, is at least replying with reasonable evidence backing up his point, even if he seems a bit clouded by loathing. It is a bit odd that a person defines themselves by hatred of another club rather than love of their own but Dundalk are a fairly unloveable outfit.....

This weekends game are a case in point for how close it's gotten. Close but Dundalk still stronger. Dundalk digging out a result against Pats even when they didn't very play well whereas Rovers dominated Cork but couldn't get 3 points. If we had one of Hoban or Kelly the league table might look a lot different but we have Aaron Greene.....god love him he tries but he just can't finish under any sort of pressure at all. Maybe we won't fix that next year but if we do I'd think it will be a longer and more competitive title race. Would think Dundalk have it wrapped up now. Maybe we will meet each other in the Europa League final for some revenge.

Apart from maybe 20mins at the start of Dundalk's game against Pats last night Dundalk dominated the match and were unlucky not to win by more than 1-0.

marinobohs
28/07/2019, 6:46 PM
You're saying this online version of you is you fully matured? Going to stick you on the ignore list so.

Ezekial, is at least replying with reasonable evidence backing up his point, even if he seems a bit clouded by loathing. It is a bit odd that a person defines themselves by hatred of another club rather than love of their own but Dundalk are a fairly unloveable outfit.....

This weekends game are a case in point for how close it's gotten. Close but Dundalk still stronger. Dundalk digging out a result against Pats even when they didn't very play well whereas Rovers dominated Cork but couldn't get 3 points. If we had one of Hoban or Kelly the league table might look a lot different but we have Aaron Greene.....god love him he tries but he just can't finish under any sort of pressure at all. Maybe we won't fix that next year but if we do I'd think it will be a longer and more competitive title race. Would think Dundalk have it wrapped up now. Maybe we will meet each other in the Europa League final for some revenge.
This weeks games, where Dundalk extended their lead by two more points proves the teams are getting nearer ? This weeks games obviously put them further apart - 2 points further apart to be exact.
That “reasonable enough evidence” for you ?

ontheotherhand
28/07/2019, 7:07 PM
Apart from maybe 20mins at the start of Dundalk's game against Pats last night Dundalk dominated the match and were unlucky not to win by more than 1-0.

Fair enough. I only caught the first half which was dominated by Pats for the start and then by Dundalk for the end as you say but White Horse on the match thread said it wasn't a great Dundalk performance and even enough overall? I've read match reports that had Dundalk dominating or it being back and forth. Didn't seem at their best to me and I'd expect you to beat Pat's handily but in fairness, you rested three of your best players and still won the game. Wish we could stick teams away when we dominate......wouldn't mind loaning us Georgie Kelly would you? I'll drive up and pick him up myself. Will even give you Aaron Greene in return......

Nah Nah Nah Nah
28/07/2019, 7:30 PM
POSTPONED: Next Saturday’s league fixture with @DundalkFC (https://twitter.com/DundalkFC)
has been postponed due to their European game

We lose more money on a gate when its rescheduled on some random Monday night to give Dundalk a better chance of earning way more money. Clubs should be compensated if they have to cancel games due to other teams being in Europe.

RathfarnhamHoop
28/07/2019, 7:39 PM
Dear FAI fixture coordinators,
Schedule teams that have European football to have home games during potential European runs, its not rocket science.
Sincerely,
Everyone with a pair of braincells to rub together.