2024 Season, Arrivals and Departures

[D24Saint]

I’d love Keena back at Pats but even if it was to happen, I’ve learned to keep the expectations low given the list of high profile strikers (by LOI standards) that have signed for Pats since Christy Fagan signed that have failed to live up to Fagan's standards

Id love to see how many have scored more than ten goals since Fagan. Very few.

[legendz]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C99zFKBvIrw/?igsh=YzVsZGJvNmFzN3ly

Cian Barrett returns to Kerry for the rest of the season.

[DCSIL]

I didn’t say you said that either. I just asked the question because I genuinely wanted to know, as it was announced that he had left the club due to family reasons but you suggested he was sacked

Giving Rogers a 4 year contract, as well as signing several players who are PD standard, seemed bizarre from a fan-run club who some of them are quick to lecture other clubs about their spending...

[cláirseach]

Giving Rogers a 4 year contract, as well as signing several players who are PD standard, seemed bizarre from a fan-run club who some of them are quick to lecture other clubs about their spending...

I remember the Rogers contract but where the hell were those PD standard players

[TonyD]

I wonder does that mean Aidan Keena is going to Pats?

I did see that mentioned. You’d imagine there must be someone lined up if we let Keating go. Didn’t really work out for him, but I’m not sure how much blame he can shoulder for that, given the season we’re having. I’m sure he’ll do well again for Cork. Bound to score against us in Richmond next season !

[oriel]

didnt think it would work for him at pats but hard for him to turn a move like that down. delighted to have him back either way as we've missing a no.9 all season. just another 8 starters to sign before 2025.

Keating had a really poor spell at Pats, I think only 4 goals, its clear as day it wasn't working out and he was out of their plans under two different managers, odd one this as there was a lot of noise made about his arrival, then very little return.

He seems more than happy to return to Cork City, sometimes moves just don't work out and for various reasons.

[legendz]

"I had a couple of options closer to home but everyone at Kerry was brilliant with me last season and I really enjoyed my time here. So I felt if I was going out to the first division to get games I wanted to show them the same loyalty they showed me." - Cian Barrett on rejoining Kerry on loan from Shamrock Rovers for the remainder of the season.

[Jack B]

Keena to Pats is a done deal according to local press over the water.

[oriel]

Cam Elliott left Dundalk yesterday aswell, was never up to it for them really….:…

No, he was a hard worker but like a lot of Scot and other players they totally underestimated the LOI, he scored two this weekend on his return to tier 5 or whatever standard the same club Dundalk signed him from.

Hope his replacement is better, he is from second tier in Scot, so hopefully this one works out.

https://www.dundalkfc.com/loan-signing-josh-oconnor/

[2 Year Contract]

Id love to see how many have scored more than ten goals since Fagan. Very few.

I think Jake Keegan is the only striker since Fagan to hit 10. Others honourable mentions include Bisto Flood who did it while Fagan was at the club, Conan Byrne and Matty Smith also did but they were both wingers (although Smith did fill in up front when Ronan Coughlan was out injured), Forrester last year from midfield. Really is a bit of a cursed position for the club and not for want of trying as they have brought big names in too but none have worked as a long term solution under any of the different managers in that time

[joey B]

I think Jake Keegan is the only striker since Fagan to hit 10. Others honourable mentions include Bisto Flood who did it while Fagan was at the club, Conan Byrne and Matty Smith also did but they were both wingers (although Smith did fill in up front when Ronan Coughlan was out injured), Forrester last year from midfield. Really is a bit of a cursed position for the club and not for want of trying as they have brought big names in too but none have worked as a long term solution under any of the different managers in that time

Eoin Doyle got 14 in 2022 if Flashscore is right….

[2 Year Contract]

Eoin Doyle got 14 in 2022 if Flashscore is right….
Correct, bit of short term memory loss from me there! He was good in 2022 but again wasn’t a long term solution up front as his legs went in the off season after that

[Jd2793]

Keating had a really poor spell at Pats, I think only 4 goals, its clear as day it wasn't working out and he was out of their plans under two different managers, odd one this as there was a lot of noise made about his arrival, then very little return.

He seems more than happy to return to Cork City, sometimes moves just don't work out and for various reasons.


posted at the time he moved but i was pretty skeptical it would work out. he wasnt great for us in 22 in the FD, got more joy when we got promoted as we had less of the ball and more spoace on the counter. hes quite poor with his back to goal. you need to be good at that to be effective no.9 imo. we wont get by next season with just him up top either, hope those in charge know that. it says a lot about the player pool in the country atm that there was a lot of noise around keating to pats. anyway happy to have him back but lots of work to do for us.

[oriel]

Keena to Pats is a done deal according to local press over the water.

Seems to be nailed on Keena to Pats ok, good signing, but its still highly unlikely Pats will be in europe next season, and not sure that was the expectation from Kelleher when hiring.

Keena is a good player though, will def improve Pats. That said 'he hasn't exactly pulled up trees' (sky sports news fav line), 7 goals in 60 games, but still a good potential'

[sbgawa]

"I had a couple of options closer to home but everyone at Kerry was brilliant with me last season and I really enjoyed my time here. So I felt if I was going out to the first division to get games I wanted to show them the same loyalty they showed me." - Cian Barrett on rejoining Kerry on loan from Shamrock Rovers for the remainder of the season.

What was he like when he was with you last year. Only came on 3 or 4 times for rovers and the manager started midfielders at CB rather than play him when we were down to bare bones at times. When he dis come on he was poor.

[oriel]

Double Post

[sbgawa]

Seems to be nailed on Keena to Pats ok, good signing, but its still highly unlikely Pats will be in europe next season, and not sure that was the expectation from Kelleher when hiring.

Keena is a good player though, will def improve Pats. That said 'he hasn't exactly pulled up trees' (sky sports news fav line), 7 goals in 60 games, but still a good potential'

Kelliher would 100% have expected to be in Europe next year when he signed kenny. Results have been poor since he took over and the signings now might be to late to turn it around. I'd expect kelliher will view it as a one year delay rather than a crises

[D24Saint]

Keena confirmed. The Cheltenham fans online seemed torn they recognised his ability but seemed to get tired of waiting for him to hit form.

[Jack B]

Obviously the results have been far, far from ideal thus far but ultimately Kenny was given a 5 year deal with the view being a longer term one. Europe would have been the aim but realistically I think he'll only get properly judged from next year, barring us ending up in serious relegation danger this season.

Keena seemed to have an encouraging start over at Cheltenham and had a record of more or less a goal/assist every other game, was only last season he really struggled but League One is a better standard than this league anyway so don't think it's necessarily reflective of how he'll perform. Not getting carried away because we're making more and more of a habit of having "big" signings flatter to deceive, but on paper it's a great move.

[Acornvilla]

Pat's on paper now looking considerably stronger than they did a month ago, few lads back from injury included. Could yet come 8th or 4th and reach the Conference League playoff. Would definitely only really start judging Kenny from now on now that he's had a handful of signings, waiting until next season is probably a bit too charitable :D

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Keating had a really poor spell at Pats, I think only 4 goals, its clear as day it wasn't working out and he was out of their plans under two different managers, odd one this as there was a lot of noise made about his arrival, then very little return.

He seems more than happy to return to Cork City, sometimes moves just don't work out and for various reasons.

He wasn’t out of Dalys plans

[TonyD]

Pat's on paper now looking considerably stronger than they did a month ago, few lads back from injury included. Could yet come 8th or 4th and reach the Conference League playoff. Would definitely only really start judging Kenny from now on now that he's had a handful of signings, waiting until next season is probably a bit too charitable :D

We have a squad that’s easily good enough for top 3/4 in my view, possibly pushing for even higher. For some reason the performances this season (with a couple of exceptions) haven’t really reflected that. Upfront is probably where we are weakest. It’s too much to ask Mason Melia to lead the line on his own. Keena for Keating looks like an upgrade in that regard, but we’ll see. I think we are capable of going on a run, but we need to show the same sort of commitment we showed the other night. Any repeats of the second half performance and we could still end up in trouble. It’s a frustrating season all round.

[Acornvilla]

We have a squad that’s easily good enough for top 3/4 in my view, possibly pushing for even higher. For some reason the performances this season (with a couple of exceptions) haven’t really reflected that. Upfront is probably where we are weakest. It’s too much to ask Mason Melia to lead the line on his own. Keena for Keating looks like an upgrade in that regard, but we’ll see. I think we are capable of going on a run, but we need to show the same sort of commitment we showed the other night. Any repeats of the second half performance and we could still end up in trouble. It’s a frustrating season all round.
Definitely could end up winning a bunch of games on the bounce, Derry was so poor, Vaduz so good, I'd expect more of the latter for the rest of the season but who knows :D

A run in Europe is probably just what the group needs but would likely kill any chance of Europe next year, I feel much the same of Rovers if they make it to the Conference league proper.

[Jack B]

Pat's on paper now looking considerably stronger than they did a month ago, few lads back from injury included. Could yet come 8th or 4th and reach the Conference League playoff. Would definitely only really start judging Kenny from now on now that he's had a handful of signings, waiting until next season is probably a bit too charitable :D

I meant more so in terms of how Kelleher may approach it and his job being under any kind of scrutiny as was being discussed above. I feel like if we have a relatively tepid finish to the season and end up in 6th/7th it's not going to be seen as some kind of disaster and more that the real judgment will be from the start of next year with a full pre-season, squad build etc behind him. Obviously performances until then will be scrutinised more generally regardless, as they already have been to varying degrees so far.

[Acornvilla]

Ah yeah, I think the season would have to be an unmitigated disaster from this point onwards for him to be in any actual danger, would be relatively confident they'll do much better over the next series and look strong leading in to next season.

[Kiki Balboa]

I am guessing the amount of money spent by the two teams just above the relegation places is probably the most ever in the league during the mid-season break.

It might be a good sign for the league (?) that teams can do this planning for next year.

Rumours abound that Pats paid Keating off with a decent fee, while also paying a fee for Keena. Although, thats just what I read on Twitter.

I said it a year back that with this Rovers team nearing an end, it would have been the time to 'go-all in'. With a relatively weak Shels team or a Derry team with no guts, winning the league, I feel this is what we are now seeing from Bohs and Pats.

[2 Year Contract]

I am guessing the amount of money spent by the two teams just above the relegation places is probably the most ever in the league during the mid-season break.

It might be a good sign for the league (?) that teams can do this planning for next year.

Rumours abound that Pats paid Keating off with a decent fee, while also paying a fee for Keena. Although, thats just what I read on Twitter.

I said it a year back that with this Rovers team nearing an end, it would have been the time to 'go-all in'. With a relatively weak Shels team or a Derry team with no guts, winning the league, I feel this is what we are now seeing from Bohs and Pats.

No fee was paid for Keena according to a local Cheltenham journalist

[oriel]

I meant more so in terms of how Kelleher may approach it and his job being under any kind of scrutiny as was being discussed above. I feel like if we have a relatively tepid finish to the season and end up in 6th/7th it's not going to be seen as some kind of disaster and more that the real judgment will be from the start of next year with a full pre-season, squad build etc behind him. Obviously performances until then will be scrutinised more generally regardless, as they already have been to varying degrees so far.

I still think a lot more was expected of SK in this season, granted he only joined mid way, but this is the ex and very recent Ireland manager, out of the cup already (very tough draw granted, but the manner of the defeat was poor), and I would think very little chance, probably none of making 4th (which only gets europe if a top 3 wins cup).

I`m sure he will do a decent job in time, just seems to be a lot are happy to give him a pass and not expect too much in year 1, which i find a little odd.

His big strength is on identifying and getting players in, Keena and Zak El two good examples.

[Acornvilla]

I still think a lot more was expected of SK in this season, granted he only joined mid way, but this is the ex and very recent Ireland manager, out of the cup already (very tough draw granted, but the manner of the defeat was poor), and I would think very little chance, probably none of making 4th (which only gets europe if a top 3 wins cup).

I`m sure he will do a decent job in time, just seems to be a lot are happy to give him a pass and not expect too much in year 1, which i find a little odd.

His big strength is on identifying and getting players in, Keena and Zak El two good examples.

His track record of getting results if given time and power is probably why fans are chill enough about the situation

[oriel]

He didn't get too many results at Ireland, however his job at the u21 role was just outstanding, he dragged them up to a very good and consistent standard.

[Acornvilla]

Fairly talking about the LOI record here :D

[Another Bohemia]

Fairly talking about the LOI record here :D

Should exclude his stint with rovers so

[Acornvilla]

Should exclude his stint with rovers so
I did say if given time

[ger121]

Pat’s putting a real side together. Add in the Kenny factor and they will be in the title hunt next season.

[nigel-harps1954]

Harps sign Scottish midfielder Bruce Strachan from Ayr United.

[placid casual]

I did say if given time
He got Dunfermline to a cup final and also relegated in one season, he completely died on his ar$e at Rovers and also with the Irish national team. He did very well at dundalk indeed and deserved all the many ,many acres of praise that came his way( never won 4inarow),and he's now managed to convince pats to give him an extraordinarily long contract.
In international football we've witnessed Roberto Martinez getting huge jobs with Belgium and Portugal despite clearly him not knowing his hoop from a hole in the ground in football terms.
As they say at d'olympics "cest la vie".

[Jack B]

The lack of gratitude for a Leinster Senior Cup win is a sight to behold.

[ger121]

He got Dunfermline to a cup final and also relegated in one season, he completely died on his ar$e at Rovers and also with the Irish national team. He did very well at dundalk indeed and deserved all the many ,many acres of praise that came his way( never won 4inarow),and he's now managed to convince pats to give him an extraordinarily long contract.
In international football we've witnessed Roberto Martinez getting huge jobs with Belgium and Portugal despite clearly him not knowing his hoop from a hole in the ground in football terms.
As they say at d'olympics "cest la vie".

Did a very good job at Longford, Bohs and Derry. If you look at him solely in the context of the LOI, Rovers aside, he has been very successful at all his clubs.

[Acornvilla]

Did a very good job at Longford, Bohs and Derry. If you look at him solely in the context of the LOI, Rovers aside, he has been very successful at all his clubs.
This more or less was the point I thought I was making, I'm glad someone gets it :D

[placid casual]

All 3 of those clubs he managed an absolute age ago. You could also say the last 4 jobs he's had( Rovers, dundalk ,Ire U21, Ire senior team) he has a 50% record.

[pineapple stu]

You could also argue only one club was silly enough to show a lack of patience in him too :p

[placid casual]

And you could similarly argue that one country was silly enough to show far too much patience in him. He has plenty of time at Pat's to do his thing anyway,unless Kelleher decides otherwise.

[Acornvilla]

Tbf to Kenny, every setback or failure he's had as a manager he has gone on to make a success of his next job, that's a very solid track record. He's managed 5 clubs here over 3 decades and only Rovers fans are generally giving out about what happened. What O' Neill did was a very tough act to follow tbf and they probably should have given him more time, but that's also a job that was a long time ago, and I'm not a Rovers fan so I don't know the ins and outs, the vibes seemed off from the start there.

Both the success of the u21's and failures of the senior international team probably don't really reflect what he can do with a LOI club, it's very different managing and improving lads who are at crossroads in their careers day to day, and building a culture, vs trying to do what you can every couple of months with whoever is available at any given international squad.

Maybe some connections from the U21 days will pay off, like with being able to bring in Elbouzedi tbf, but otherwise with most managers I tend to separate their club and international records, especially in this case where he's done so much in our very small pond.

I think his start at Pat's has been terrible, the Derry performance was as much a joke as the Vaduz result is excellent, but I would be very confident of him building something great at Pat's and then probably already challenging for the title next season, we've seen this movie before. It's not like he's in his 70's and hasn't been keeping tabs on football

[Another Bohemia]

Afolabi could be on the move to Turkey. Bid lodged by Sivaspor for 550,000 with Bohs supposedly getting 20%. Between that and the money for Promise's move Bohs could launch a bid to bring Georgie Kelly back in the next window :D. Jokes aside the value of sell on clauses has been made abundantly clear this year with so many former LOI players moving

[Acornvilla]

Seen Cork are getting about 350k from Jake O' Brien's move as well.

[joey B]

Former Bohemians striker Jonathan Afolabi is on the move as Turkish side Sivasspor have lodged a €550,000 bid for the Belgian-based Dubliner. Bohs due 110k from the deal if it goes through….

[nr637]

Seen Cork are getting about 350k from Jake O' Brien's move as well.

Helped in the signing of Ruairi Keating from St.Pats.

Rumours about Seanie Maguire in talks with the club after becoming a free agents with his Carlisle release. :confused:

[nigel-harps1954]

Helped in the signing of Ruairi Keating from St.Pats.

Rumours about Seanie Maguire in talks with the club after becoming a free agents with his Carlisle release. :confused:

The window is closed so he can't sign.

[Buckett]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-41447614.html

He's a free agent though, I thought free agents can be signed anytime?
Anyhow the article is nonsense. There's been no contact between Clancy or Maguire. He was asked would he like to sign him and answered yes

[Another Bohemia]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-41447614.html

He's a free agent though, I thought free agents can be signed anytime?
Anyhow the article is nonsense. There's been no contact between Clancy or Maguire. He was asked would he like to sign him and answered yes
Yeah my understanding is that free agents can sign anytime it's only transfers between clubs that need to take place during the window. If Maguire is on the way back I hope Bohs are knocking down his door but based on the last interview he gave I think he will want to stay in the UK. He seems to be trying to focus on his family at the moment which is good for him and I hope it works out for him.