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cláirseach
11/03/2024, 5:33 PM
Unless I'm badly mistaken I think people might be well past the distaste for Rice. Reynolds himself isn't too popular in D7. Neither is significant though imo.

Martinho II
11/03/2024, 7:15 PM
Stephen Rice for now is still involved with the FAI in his usual role as per JOS. Heard again Richard Dunnes interested. But hard to call imo

Jack B
12/03/2024, 1:27 PM
Surely the Flora Talinn manager is a shoe in?

Glen Of Aherlow
12/03/2024, 2:20 PM
Surely the Flora Talinn manager is a shoe in?

The Duffer was surely dropping a big 'come and get me' hint the other night wearing his Palestine flag pin

bluemovie
12/03/2024, 4:42 PM
It won't be Reynolds. He won't take a number one job. I'd say he got a call from Fenlon about it though.

ger121
12/03/2024, 7:10 PM
Irish Times and Indo both saying we are speaking to Kenny. I mean he might want to stay out of football for a while and see what other opportunities come up but who knows what options he’ll have and when they might be. The UK market or Europe has hardly been a gold mine for Irish managers. If he does want to manage in the LOI again, then your options tend to be limited due to the number of clubs and vacancies at any one time. I’d be surprised if he does go for it but would be delighted if he did.

Martinho II
12/03/2024, 7:21 PM
Surely the Flora Talinn manager is a shoe in?

Why Flora Talinn mgr?

Shinkicker
12/03/2024, 7:34 PM
Why Flora Talinn mgr?
Did you really have to ask the question?

sulywaterfordfc
12/03/2024, 7:44 PM
Reynolds also seems quite content being an assistant as well. That was the role he wanted to move to Derry for. He might be like Crolly in that regard. He was also approached about the Bohs job last time around and turned it down as well.


Rennie is the assistant for the men’s Ire U21s. He’d have to give that role up to take a managers job. Rennie’s best work and success came whilst he was an assistant. Probably one of the best assistants in the league. Rennie is a fantastic coach

As an assistant I think he won the FAI Cup three times, the First Division twice and the League Cup. As a manager he won the First Division and came runner up in the FAI Cup. (Open to correction).

ger121
12/03/2024, 8:23 PM
Why Flora Talinn mgr?

He is butter than the other options.

TonyD
12/03/2024, 10:12 PM
Not a chance Kenny or SOD would be happy to work under Fenlon's control and telling them whom to sign. Also I can't see Rice being welcomed back with open arms into Dalymount by alot of the Bohs fans

Reynolds seems to be potential appointment that would make sense for working under Fenlon as DOF while having experience and credibility in any coaching or managerial role. Rennie was rated very highly at Shels as Ian Morris's assistant during our immediate bounce back First Division title winning season in 2021

The whole Director of Football thing has always seemed strange to me, particularly if he is signing the players. Has it ever worked ? For me, a manager just has to be in charge of recruitment. Very unfair to judge a manager with a squad that someone else has chosen.

sulywaterfordfc
12/03/2024, 10:31 PM
The whole Director of Football thing has always seemed strange to me, particularly if he is signing the players. Has it ever worked ? For me, a manager just has to be in charge of recruitment. Very unfair to judge a manager with a squad that someone else has chosen.


Fenlon was a successful DOF when he was at Waterford. It worked out really well. Things started to fell apart after he left, then Power lost interest. Power being outed in the UK ultimately led to him selling us.

dundalkfc10
12/03/2024, 10:47 PM
Fenlon was a successful DOF when he was at Waterford. It worked out really well. Things started to fell apart after he left, then Power lost interest. Power being outed in the UK ultimately led to him selling us.

Alot of Linfield fans said the same when he was up North.

Another Bohemia
13/03/2024, 5:31 AM
The whole Director of Football thing has always seemed strange to me, particularly if he is signing the players. Has it ever worked ? For me, a manager just has to be in charge of recruitment. Very unfair to judge a manager with a squad that someone else has chosen.

You realise Pat's have a director of football right?

Shinkicker
13/03/2024, 7:53 AM
I reckon Reynolds is nailed on for it tbh.
Fenlon is bound to want someone he can work with after Devine and Reynolds has proven he can do that.
I see crusaders have appointed D Cadell as manager when Paddy Mclaughlin looked to be in with a strong shout. Could be a strong consideration for the Bohs job. Probably not first choice but if you don't get the man you want, you have to take second choice, or third choice like the last time.

pineapple stu
13/03/2024, 8:30 AM
The whole Director of Football thing has always seemed strange to me, particularly if he is signing the players. Has it ever worked ? For me, a manager just has to be in charge of recruitment. Very unfair to judge a manager with a squad that someone else has chosen.
I think the point of a DoF is it's a middle man to allow the directors (running the club) keep a check on the manager - arguably player recruitment is the single most important thing about a football club, and giving one person carte blanche over it is a bit of a risk. A manager can presumably make a recommendation, but the DoF can veto it if the player is crap or wanting way more than he's worth.

The manager then is more often a head coach these days in reality.

D24Saint
13/03/2024, 9:08 AM
You realise Pat's have a director of football right?

AFAIK its mainly in view towards the academy side of things. In not sure what elements of his job if any involve the first team tbh.

2 Year Contract
13/03/2024, 9:37 AM
AFAIK its mainly in view towards the academy side of things. In not sure what elements of his job if any involve the first team tbh.

Ger O'Brien was head of the academy/Director of football for the academy but was made Director of Football for the whole club in general at the end of January when Stephen Elliott was appointed head of the academy. Bit mentioning it here

https://www.stpatsfc.com/news.php?id=9541

Another Bohemia
13/03/2024, 10:23 AM
AFAIK its mainly in view towards the academy side of things. In not sure what elements of his job if any involve the first team tbh.

Considering you also have a head of academy in place I doubt that O'Brien is only overseeing the academy. Even if he was you also have Alan Matthews as a technical director... It seems there are many more people involved in the first team decision making than just John Daly.

Shinkicker
13/03/2024, 2:13 PM
Warren Feeny also available, but I don't think he'd fit, big budget at the Glen's and didn't do much.

TonyD
13/03/2024, 6:04 PM
You realise Pat's have a director of football right?

As said already I think it’s quite different. I don’t think he’s signing players. And I’d be saying the exact same thing if he was/is.

TonyD
13/03/2024, 6:07 PM
Considering you also have a head of academy in place I doubt that O'Brien is only overseeing the academy. Even if he was you also have Alan Matthews as a technical director... It seems there are many more people involved in the first team decision making than just John Daly.

Not sure what Alan Matthews role is to be honest. I know he’s on the board too.

Martinho II
13/03/2024, 7:22 PM
Did you really have to ask the question?

How am I supposed to know? Im just confused with whats going on.

RealJohn91
13/03/2024, 8:02 PM
How am I supposed to know? Im just confused with whats going on.
Bohs signed three Estonian players from Flora during the off-season, it's not a hard thing to figure out.

Shinkicker
14/03/2024, 6:05 AM
Bohs signed three Estonian players from Flora during the off-season, it's not a hard thing to figure out.
Taa Daah

Nesta99
14/03/2024, 9:40 AM
Some play on 'Flora' was fare more interesting!

Martinho II
14/03/2024, 7:17 PM
Bohs signed three Estonian players from Flora during the off-season, it's not a hard thing to figure out.

Well Im not as clued in as I used to as working away from home during the week so dont have time to check this out. Im entitled to ask a simple question. Thats last time Im going to comment on this .

joey B
14/03/2024, 7:20 PM
Ryan Flood transferred to Phoenix Rising FC in the States from us….

outspoken
14/03/2024, 7:43 PM
Ryan Flood transferred to Phoenix Rising FC in the States from us….

Any fee paid?

Shinkicker
14/03/2024, 7:55 PM
Honestly no idea but I couldn't see the FAI standing in his way when the new international manager (whoever they may be) will likely have a preference for who fills the opposition analyst role anyway.

He was mentioned in the Indo as a potential candidate so make of that what you will along with Reynolds, O'Donnell (strange one tbh), Kenny, Ian Barraclough and Curtis Flemming.
Still early days so names are being thrown around to fill columns but my hope is someone is announced the week of the Rovers game and gives the squad and fans a much needed boost. There were boos at the first game v Sligo which really puts into perspective how people felt coming into the season.
Just been told Kenny was at the Bohs training ground today.

joey B
14/03/2024, 8:05 PM
Any fee paid?

Who knows :confused:

Another Bohemia
14/03/2024, 8:33 PM
Just been told Kenny was at the Bohs training ground today.

Have heard that as well. Certainly sounds positive but I won't hold my breath until it's announced by the club. Had heard in the last cycle that people were done and dusted only for it to fall through

2 Year Contract
14/03/2024, 9:39 PM
Just been told Kenny was at the Bohs training ground today.


Have heard that as well. Certainly sounds positive but I won't hold my breath until it's announced by the club. Had heard in the last cycle that people were done and dusted only for it to fall through

Is the only source for that info the following tweet from Gerry Malone? Because if it is…

https://x.com/LiveatOriel/status/1768292607606554894?s=20

Nesta99
14/03/2024, 10:15 PM
It'll be the very time Gerry has it on the button.

ToberonaTornado
15/03/2024, 5:15 AM
It'll be the very time Gerry has it on the button.

I like Gerry even though he currently has me banned/ blocked from his account -the ban fluctuates from day to day ?
He'll announce his own death from rip on his account some day and still get it effing wrong!

Another Bohemia
15/03/2024, 7:40 AM
Is the only source for that info the following tweet from Gerry Malone? Because if it is…

https://x.com/LiveatOriel/status/1768292607606554894?s=20

For me it was someone I was talking to but don't know where they got their info, hence the waiting till the club say anything stance.

Jack B
15/03/2024, 9:00 AM
Malone is great value. Enjoyed hom in the off-season saying Dundalk had re-signed Connor Malley after Sligo had already announced him, and same for Nathan Shepherd before the pretty public manner in which he definitely did not stay at the club.

Nesta99
15/03/2024, 11:20 AM
Gerry cares about the club an awful lot (as we all do) but trying to keep that emotion and journalism and also that want to break the news, well it would break me if I was in a similar position. Other local journos are slated for being the barers of bad news, said to have agendas, they are bound to be swayed by their sources but its also their job to report their 'news' mainly not to be nice. There is a lot wrong at Dundalk FC for whatever reason and to report on it is not anti Dundalk FC. It would break Gerrys heart to see Stephen Kenny go to another LoI club and would cite a lack of ambition to let it happen rather than some practical reasons like finances and that Kenny may not want to touch current Dundalk FC with a barge pole. Bigger picture is fixing a serious amount of off field stuff. Read on Orielweb, for example, that the Patreon scheme hasnt been updated in a season or 2(?) but auto renew wasnt flagged if Patreon was retired - its small but basic stuff that grinds gears and the small stuff that adds up to the disconnect between club and fans that jounalists are feeding in to. Not sure what Im saying in relation to the above bar Malley and Sheppard and other stuff either wishful thinking or doomsday for live at Oriel.

redobit
15/03/2024, 4:05 PM
https://www.sligorovers.com/rein-smit-signs-for-sligo-rovers/

Dutch striker who's played with Hereven and Telstar. Been with the club for months and pre season so should be well settled in. Think the club were holding back on signing as he was coming back slowly from an injury. Young lad looking to prove himself, so might be interesting.

ger121
15/03/2024, 4:25 PM
I did see Gerry tweet about it but have heard the Kenny info from a couple of places now. Could be something to it.

ger121
16/03/2024, 11:19 AM
Deccy the new Glens manager according to BBCNI. That didn’t take long. Good for him.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68585614

Nesta99
16/03/2024, 11:39 AM
Itd be so much fun if Feeney was o the list to go the other way. Unlikely but hey it would be a true GLITW moment. I think Devine could be a specialist caretaker manager, he gets teams playing for a while but then fades, if you were looking for a late punt against relegation you wouldnt bet the house against him. Why do things go south fo him? Does he take the same backroom team in and needs to change it up. He was at odds with Fenlon at Bohs but the pattern is there.

RealJohn91
16/03/2024, 11:49 AM
Itd be so much fun if Feeney was o the list to go the other way. Unlikely but hey it would be a true GLITW moment. I think Devine could be a specialist caretaker manager, he gets teams playing for a while but then fades, if you were looking for a late punt against relegation you wouldnt bet the house against him. Why do things go south fo him? Does he take the same backroom team in and needs to change it up. He was at odds with Fenlon at Bohs but the pattern is there.
He never worked with any of his backroom staff at Bohs before he was appointed anyway

Another Bohemia
16/03/2024, 12:52 PM
Itd be so much fun if Feeney was o the list to go the other way. Unlikely but hey it would be a true GLITW moment. I think Devine could be a specialist caretaker manager, he gets teams playing for a while but then fades, if you were looking for a late punt against relegation you wouldnt bet the house against him. Why do things go south fo him? Does he take the same backroom team in and needs to change it up. He was at odds with Fenlon at Bohs but the pattern is there.

I think he's good at the pep talks and getting people fired up but that only wins games for so long. Then his tactical nous is lacking. At Bohs we had a great start to last season and then fell off. That was also the pattern in games. Start fast then fall off. We never had any real style of play and were probably carried by having some very good player in Coote, Clarke, Afolabi and energy in midfield from Bucko or times and McDonnell.

outspoken
16/03/2024, 1:29 PM
Gerry on the money yet again https://www.thesun.ie/sport/12544391/stephen-kenny-next-bohemians-manager-derek-pender/ :p

oriel
16/03/2024, 4:16 PM
Malone is great value. Enjoyed hom in the off-season saying Dundalk had re-signed Connor Malley after Sligo had already announced him, and same for Nathan Shepherd before the pretty public manner in which he definitely did not stay at the club.

He's (Gerry Malone) the perfect example of someone (with a little respect) just too old to get the social media thing, doesn't understand tone on it, won't be told he is wrong, and keeps falling for 'nailed on info' fed to him and puts it up as gospel.

He'd be better suited taking a break from it. Reminds me in a way of the ex UUP nutcase guy up North on twitter, John Taylor, ex MP, he's in his 80's (Gerry is not) goes under a name of Lord Kil-something, but the stuff he comes out with.

Again, doesn't really suit you son.

Nesta99
16/03/2024, 7:44 PM
He's (Gerry Malone) the perfect example of someone (with a little respect) just too old to get the social media thing, doesn't understand tone on it, won't be told he is wrong, and keeps falling for 'nailed on info' fed to him and puts it up as gospel.

He'd be better suited taking a break from it. Reminds me in a way of the ex UUP nutcase guy up North on twitter, John Taylor, ex MP, he's in his 80's (Gerry is not) goes under a name of Lord Kil-something, but the stuff he comes out with.

Again, doesn't really suit you son.

This is an issue and not easy to see at times. Deserves a bit more respect imo, and we all know the eccentricities without making someone look foolish even if the bait is easily taken. The Shep thing in fairness I think Dundalk also thought it was a done deal. Malley to Sligo was also unexpected if few fussed about it.

legendz
18/03/2024, 7:23 AM
Deccy the new Glens manager according to BBCNI. That didn’t take long. Good for him.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68585614
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68585614
Declan Devine has made a winning start as interim manager for Glentoran.

Another Bohemia
18/03/2024, 2:24 PM
This is an issue and not easy to see at times. Deserves a bit more respect imo, and we all know the eccentricities without making someone look foolish even if the bait is easily taken. The Shep thing in fairness I think Dundalk also thought it was a done deal. Malley to Sligo was also unexpected if few fussed about it.

For what it's worth. I heard at the Bohs match from people not related to Gerry Malone that the tour of ground/training ground did happen but the feeling is that Kenny is holding out to see if anything is available abroad. That's the nature of the reporting game I suppose. You could have all your facts correct but something happens and you end up with egg on your face.

placid casual
18/03/2024, 6:58 PM
egg on your face[b].
Since it was bohs it was probably more likely vegan,non binary honey made from an equal rights worker bee