2024 Season, Arrivals and Departures

[nigel-harps1954]

To be fair, all the chat is that Carroll has basically been with them all season, has presumably proven a level of fitness to be offered a contract at this stage.

[joey B]

Is Wayne Groves going to get the Longford job permanently or are they still looking for someone else?

[RealJohn91]

Jevon Mills had his contract with Hull extended for another year and he's now going to spend the rest of the season with Bohs. Good news as he's really starting to build a solid partnership with Keita.

[Another Bohemia]

Jevon Mills had his contract with Hull extended for another year and he's now going to spend the rest of the season with Bohs. Good news as he's really starting to build a solid partnership with Keita.

Great news. He's played well & the coaching staff obviously rate him even if they've had to bring him back down to earth a bit a couple of times. With him and Carroll I'm a bit more confident in our defensive reinforcements. Hopefully we can keep Matheson for the season as well

[ger121]

Jevon Mills had his contract with Hull extended for another year and he's now going to spend the rest of the season with Bohs. Good news as he's really starting to build a solid partnership with Keita.

Great news.

[mcgonigle]

Came into this thread thinking there had been a bunch of transfer activity only to see PC having a gloat about the demise of Dundalk. Makes last night's result all the sweeter. Good enough for him as he would say.

[oriel]

Complety agree. He has a base to work from there , although he might have to get rid of some expensive deadwood first.

He's in an absolute no loss scenario though, if Pats don't win next 2 games, even 4th spot is probably a long shot, then its FAI Cup route for europe, if he misses that he can talk about starting fresh next season and still have 5 years confirmed paid contract taking him up to 58 years of age, great position for him really to be in, while not having to worry too much about his job!

Then again he could turn things around quickly in pre season and emerge as front runners for 2025, but Rovers and Derry are a good few years ahead, interesting to see how it will work out, to be fair though if one person can take a club up through the gears its him, will probably see a clearer picture on his ambitions next season.

[Jolly Red Giant]

Jevon Mills had his contract with Hull extended for another year and he's now going to spend the rest of the season with Bohs. Good news as he's really starting to build a solid partnership with Keita.
That is an important move by Bohs - he is a good quality CB at LOI level.

[TonyD]

He's in an absolute no loss scenario though, if Pats don't win next 2 games, even 4th spot is probably a long shot, then its FAI Cup route for europe, if he misses that he can talk about starting fresh next season and still have 5 years confirmed paid contract taking him up to 58 years of age, great position for him really to be in, while not having to worry too much about his job!

Then again he could turn things around quickly in pre season and emerge as front runners for 2025, but Rovers and Derry are a good few years ahead, interesting to see how it will work out, to be fair though if one person can take a club up through the gears its him, will probably see a clearer picture on his ambitions next season.

I actually don’t think Derry or Rovers are years ahead of us. Yes, they are certainly ahead at the moment, but things can turn around fairly quickly in this league. Although it’s not going well for us this season, I still think we have the bones of a good squad there. Two or three good players could make all the difference next year.

[oriel]

I actually don’t think Derry or Rovers are years ahead of us. Yes, they are certainly ahead at the moment, but things can turn around fairly quickly in this league. Although it’s not going well for us this season, I still think we have the bones of a good squad there. Two or three good players could make all the difference next year.

My point was on years when another club can realistically expect to win the league. SK might have a successful league campaign next season, but to win the league you will need to overtake both Rovers and Derry and I don't see that happening for a good few years. As the man himself said this week, 'Pats are the 4th club in Dublin at the min'.

The squad Pats have now should be ample quality to make europe each season, will need 4 or 5 new players to have a shot of the league IMO.

[Martinho II]

Is Wayne Groves going to get the Longford job permanently or are they still looking for someone else?

I honestly dont know as noone seems to know. Think it would make sense for WG to get the job permanently as he had a spell as underage mgr when Tony Cousins was around.

[joey B]

I honestly dont know as noone seems to know. Think it would make sense for WG to get the job permanently as he had a spell as underage mgr when Tony Cousins was around.

Definitely an improvement under him it seems anyway..

[Acornvilla]

Definitely an improvement under him it seems anyway..
He has said he'd like the job, but the club also invited applications, recent results wont hurt his case

[ger121]

He has said he'd like the job, but the club also invited applications, recent results wont hurt his case

Think he has done a good job since Hendo left. Could make a strong case for him getting the job.

[Martinho II]

Think he has done a good job since Hendo left. Could make a strong case for him getting the job.

Dont know what happened to Hendo I think he had regrets over ever taking the LTFC job. Dont think hes the same person he was when he was with Cobh Ramblers/Waterford Utd.

[Burnsie]

looks like Ian Ryan's gone from Bray Wanderers

[Onapointoforder]

looks like Ian Ryan's gone from Bray Wanderers

He walked out on Wexford to go to Bray… where’s he off too??

[joey B]

He walked out on Wexford to go to Bray… where’s he off too??

Don’t you dare Mr Ainscough !

[Onapointoforder]

Don’t you dare Mr Ainscough !
Off to Dundalk surely??

[oriel]

The local rumours was Barraclough with Gavin Peers as assistant to Dundalk.

[Martinho II]

He walked out on Wexford to go to Bray… where’s he off too??

Wonder is he joining us as mgr as he played for us on loan from Shamrock Rovers in 07 season ?

[Buckett]

Where do Longford train?

[Onapointoforder]

Wonder is he joining us as mgr as he played for us on loan from Shamrock Rovers in 07 season ?

How long would he stay though? He doesn’t seem to hang around too long at one club.

[joey B]

Jon Daly new manager at Dundalk

[ger121]

Jon Daly new manager at Dundalk

It’s like LOI musical chairs.

[2 Year Contract]

Keith Long to end the season managing Sligo Rovers against Kevin Doherty's Waterford :)

[Nesta99]

Never saw that on the horison....

[Another Bohemia]

Never saw that on the horison....

Better appointment than King anyway. Been a great season for our of work managers all the same

[placid casual]

Far be it for me to say anything positive about dundalk,but that's a decent appointment in my opinion. Daly was treated quite badly by Pats,but time may show he'll be the one who has the last laugh.
A bucket of KFC would be more useful than kinger.

[Martinho II]

Where do Longford train?

Pretty sure its Leixlip but stand corrected.

[oriel]

Far be it for me to say anything positive about dundalk,but that's a decent appointment in my opinion. Daly was treated quite badly by Pats,but time may show he'll be the one who has the last laugh.
A bucket of KFC would be more useful than kinger.

+ just the 26 years younger too !!!

We've gone from a manager (King) who last managed a league club 20 years ago to a manager who last won a major trophy 6 months ago !

Never saw this coming mind.

[TonyD]

Far be it for me to say anything positive about dundalk,but that's a decent appointment in my opinion. Daly was treated quite badly by Pats,but time may show he'll be the one who has the last laugh.
A bucket of KFC would be more useful than kinger.

Kind of agree. I think Daly was a bit unlucky not to get more time, considering the job he did last year, but on the other hand it just wasn’t happening this year and Garrett Kelleher may have been swayed by the availability of Stephen Kenny. As you say, time will tell whether it was the right decision for Pats. Good appointment for Dundalk I think. I was expecting Daly to try to get fixed up in Scotland, with his family still over there.

[ger121]

Guessing Dundalk fans happy with the appointment? I must admit I did not see that one coming, but it is a good move.

[Nesta99]

I'm happier about Daly getting the job than Barraclough who got far too much credit for the league winning side Cook built, hasnt made much of jobs since and unlikely to be on the pulse for LoI from day one as needed. Though I often feel that LoI managerial successes can be all about timing and luck in that regard - fail at one club and win a league at the next, have a striker on a hot freak streak and ruin a 6 in a row tilt. There are a number of better performers at Dundalk that are on loan so they need to be sorted, we maye see some additions to the squad in July (Was Daly renaging on offering extensions to loanees or players due out of contract?), and youd expect a full backroom team to be put together also.

[desaintsno.12]

I think Daly has the makings of a decent manager (at some stage down the line), but i think right now, he is a terrrible fit for the task at hand with Dundalk.
IMO, this season,under Daly, was on par with the harry kenny (w4nker) era.

[Jack B]

Hard to know where Daly is at in terms of his level as a manager, but Dundalk can and have done worse. He was great when he came in last season and had some good game plans game-by-game, but this year was the polar opposite and it's looking like he did an especially messy job of trying to build a balanced squad. He's a good egg as well on a personal level so would like to see his career play out successfully, big job on his hands here though.

[outspoken]

Pretty sure its Leixlip but stand corrected.
Haven't trained in Leixlip for a few years, it's somewhere in Dublin anyway

[Shearer]

Is Ferdia O'Brien gone from Kerry already?

Randomly popped into my mind so I checked it seems he only made one 15 minute appearance at the start of March and hasn't appeared in a squad since the 22nd of that month.

It did seem like he had very little footballing pedigree.

[joey B]

Nathan Wood loan at Cork finished and he returned to Newport...

[2 Year Contract]

Have to laugh at Jon Daly's quotes on the Pats squad

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/13049386/dundalk-jon-daly-stephen-kennys-st-patricks-athletic/


“When I was there I was getting stick for not challenging for the league with the same squad.
“It's funny how narratives can change and all of a sudden the squad's not good enough, and when I was there it is good enough.

If the squad is good enough to challenge for the league then it was his fault as manager for having them down in 7th place. If the squad isn’t good enough to challenge for the league then it’s also his fault, as he’s the one that assembled it. Can’t have it both ways, probably would’ve been best to pick one narrative and stick to it :)

[Another Bohemia]

Have to laugh at Jon Daly's quotes on the Pats squad

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/13049386/dundalk-jon-daly-stephen-kennys-st-patricks-athletic/



If the squad is good enough to challenge for the league then it was his fault as manager for having them down in 7th place. If the squad isn’t good enough to challenge for the league then it’s also his fault, as he’s the one that assembled it. Can’t have it both ways, probably would’ve been best to pick one narrative and stick to it :)

In fairness I think he's just trying to point out a bit of a double standard that's happening with Kenny and Pat's now. Expectations were quite high for Daly and the pats squad after winning the cup last year. Now a lot of people are acting like even with Kenny in you can't expect anything from him cause the team is bad. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. The team is not great but certainly has players to be in a better position than they currently are and I also think Kenny has to start to show some changes in performance because I can't say I was overly impressed with Pat's on Friday. Really their only 2 chances of note came from Bohs errors rather than great play on Pat's part. Outside of that they weren't particularly good.

[2 Year Contract]

In fairness I think he's just trying to point out a bit of a double standard that's happening with Kenny and Pat's now. Expectations were quite high for Daly and the pats squad after winning the cup last year. Now a lot of people are acting like even with Kenny in you can't expect anything from him cause the team is bad. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

If that’s the point he’s trying to make then he’s more or less admitting to having not being up to the job by suggesting that the squad is good enough for a title challenge (but he had them in 7th) and that Kenny should be under the same pressure as he was this season, despite starting 16 games into the season in 7th place.

If he thinks that he shouldn’t have been under any pressure after being heavily backed in the transfer window by LOI standards and then failed to get performances or results out of his squad, then football management isn’t the career for him.

I think it’s clear at this stage that the squad needs a bit of surgery, but very rarely in football will a manager that built said expensive underperforming squad get the chance to do so

[Another Bohemia]

If that’s the point he’s trying to make then he’s more or less admitting to having not being up to the job by suggesting that the squad is good enough for a title challenge (but he had them in 7th) and that Kenny should be under the same pressure as he was this season, despite starting 16 games into the season in 7th place.

If he thinks that he shouldn’t have been under any pressure after being heavily backed in the transfer window by LOI standards and then failed to get performances or results out of his squad, then football management isn’t the career for him.

I think it’s clear at this stage that the squad needs a bit of surgery, but very rarely in football will a manager that built said expensive underperforming squad get the chance to do so

I'm not sure I follow. I don't think he's saying the squad isn't up for it more that there's a sudden shift in the narrative surrounding Pat's league campaign this year?

Start of the season the external expectation was Daly + this team = title challenge & Europe. Now with an undoubtedly more accomplished manager the narrative is don't expect too much. That's a massive shift after bringing in a manager of Kenny's level. Obviously we have more context on the level of the squad but some of the concerns were there before the start of the season E.g. what if Breslin gets injured? Who replaces Curtis? Will the latest loan keeper be up to the standard. It's just a naive comment of an inexperienced manager and we've seen plenty of that from managers in this league before

[TonyD]

In fairness I think he's just trying to point out a bit of a double standard that's happening with Kenny and Pat's now. Expectations were quite high for Daly and the pats squad after winning the cup last year. Now a lot of people are acting like even with Kenny in you can't expect anything from him cause the team is bad. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. The team is not great but certainly has players to be in a better position than they currently are and I also think Kenny has to start to show some changes in performance because I can't say I was overly impressed with Pat's on Friday. Really their only 2 chances of note came from Bohs errors rather than great play on Pat's part. Outside of that they weren't particularly good.

Every manager puts his spin on things, I think that’s only to be expected. As a Pats fan I thought we might be able to challenge this year, though I was far from banking on it. What Shels are doing shows it is possible though, without necessarily a star studded squad. The fact that Rovers and Derry are both under performing this year means the opportunity is there. I have some sympathy with Joh Daly, although as 2 Yr contract points out, he did build the squad. As far as Stephen Kenny is concerned, whatever about the strength of the squad it’s absolutely the case that a title challenge this year has long since ceased to be realistic. If Kenny can get us into Europe from here that will be a very good season. We’ve lost a lot of tight games, which suggests that the margins are fine. The team maybe just lacks a little confidence at the moment.

[joey B]

George Shelvey departed Dundalk,no real surprise there I’d imagine….

[Straightstory]

George Shelvey departed Dundalk,no real surprise there I’d imagine….
They'll no doubt save on the cost of his rehabilitation and re-education by the team of experts they had lined up to 'work with him' and explain the difference between calling someone a c*** (which is fine) and an 'Irish c*** (which deserves a ten match ban).

[sulywaterfordfc]

George Shelvey departed Dundalk,no real surprise there I’d imagine….

I assume he has the serve the rest of his ban with whatever club he signs with next ?

[joey B]

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Dave has found a new victim!

[Nesta99]

There are few appointments that are as baffling as Rogers, he must have seriously good references though some glowing references make you wonder if employers wanted someone just gone. Strange appointments, bad ones nearly always have some logic to someone but where is the upside to Dave?

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Stephen Mallon signs for us