LOI In Europe 2020

[WeAreRovers]

If We are Rovers is on, will RTE be getting UK rights to the Dundalk game Thursday?

Sorry, only saw this now. Game is available Island of Ireland tomorrow night.

EUROPA LEAGUE PLAY-OFF – Thursday 1 October at 7.00pm on RTÉ2

Peter Collins is joined by Richie Sadlier and Stuart Byrne for live coverage from the Aviva Stadium of the Europa League Play-Off between Dundalk and KÍ of the Faroe Islands. Commentary from Darragh Maloney and Johnny McDonnell. KO 7.30pm. Extra time and penalties a possibility.

[geysir]

Alan Cawley and Stuey Byrne repeated the same 3-0 vs. Slovan stuff this week on their podcast.
Apart from that champions league record that any club would love to have experienced, KI have performed better than Dundalk in their two actual european games, so Dundalk will have enough to do to deal with the real KI.

As regards Brian Kerr, he's not been involved with Faroese football for near enough 10 years. He's out of touch with the changes that have come into play these past 4 years.
Nevertheless, he's held in the highest regard among Faroese football aficionados.

[placid casual]

Didn't listen to that, there are too many podcasts about I've given up on them. But Byrne and RTÉ in general were pretty hard to listen to on Sunday, and I don't usually mind their coverage.

Saying they didn't know the team 15 minutes before kick off (when it had been released 45 minutes earlier) and then pretending to be shocked when there were 10 changes.

Sadlier, his voice goes through my head, and Morley was just talking nonsense as usual. I hadn't heard Morley on RTÉ for a long time and hopefully he's not on again. Thankfully he's not on tomorrow night anyway.

And yeah, Pats fans must be the hardest to listen to in the whole league. Not being able to attend Richmond is one of the blessings of Covid.
It must have been very difficult to listen to people praising the opposition in oriel all right.

[The Lilywhites]

As regards Brian Kerr, he's not been involved with Faroese football for near enough 10 years. He's out of touch with the changes that have come into play these past 4 years. Nevertheless, he's held in the highest regard among Faroese football aficionados.

He's out of touch with football in general. He does zero research and it shows. He throws out the auld Dublin slang which the Dubs cream themselves over and think it's a great laugh. But as a pundit, he's absolutely terrible these days.


It must have been very difficult to listen to people praising the opposition in oriel all right.

They were just talking nonsense mostly, to be honest. My comments on Sadlier and Morley weren't just about Sunday.

We all knew what the result would be beforehand. Well done on beating Perth's reserves. The fawning over Byrne's goal was a bit much though. McCarey handed it to him and it was harder to miss.

The game served a useful purpose in that it proved none of the back-up players are good enough for our squad.

[paul_oshea]

ANyone think there could be something more at play in the 6-1 defeat :D

[ger121]

ANyone think there could be something more at play in the 6-1 defeat :D

I have wondered if COVID was at play here considering so many players from Connagh’s Quay had it in the last round. Their manager was even trying to keep it under wraps before that game. Something about the game was a bit strange.

[Calcio Jack]

Thankfully we don't have to listen to Brian Kerr on RTÉ tomorrow night (although Johnny McDonnell mightn't be much better).

Kerr was going on last week about their 3-0 win over Slovan, and also that Filippo lost his first game in Sligo.

Kerr is a bit like Johnny Giles at this stage. An eejit who Dubs seem to love. Time to retire - not that he will as he's getting a handy wage and just wings it.

What an insult to Giles who is anything but an eejit - Shame on you

[geysir]

I have wondered if COVID was at play here considering so many players from Connagh’s Quay had it in the last round. Their manager was even trying to keep it under wraps before that game. Something about the game was a bit strange.

You should know Ger that strange can happen in the north Atlantic to visiting teams and Tbilisi will dust themselves down just like Bohs did eventually.

[pineapple stu]

I think the big question foot.ie has though is - who is the Dundalky/Nordic geysir actually supporting tomorrow?

[geysir]

I think the big question foot.ie has though is - who is the Dundalky/Nordic geysir actually supporting tomorrow?

It's a Win Win situation.

[The Lilywhites]

What an insult to Giles who is anything but an eejit - Shame on you

As a pundit he was an eejit, particularly in the later years it became fairly embarrassing for him.

Rovers fans obviously look on him as Pats fans look on Kerr.

[Scrufil]

On Pat Morley, he used a phrase in the broadcast along the lines of "he's a great baller". Honestly people laugh at the Healy-Raes for much less. Never mind what county he's from, what feckin planet is Morley from?

[Ezeikial]

Interesting if well travelled points-of-view from Dave Donnelly on extratime.ie

One aspect of his article:



Dundalk qualifying for the group stages and doing well could go a long way towards ensuring the League of Ireland keeps its three Europa League spots.

https://www.extratime.com/articles/25779/opinion-a-rising-tide-lifts-all-boats---but-rivals-fans-are-justified-to-hope-dundalk-fail-in-their-europa-league-bid/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Ezeikial]

Brian Gartland | Dundalk FC v KI Preview Dundalk FC centre-back Brian Gartland believes that the Lilywhites are ready to emulate their heroics from 2016.

5 minute video interview

https://twitter.com/DundalkFC/status/1311376758344749060

[Ezeikial]

Off the Ball interview with Filippo Giovagnoli

He continues to impress further with every interview I hear - grounded, assured, modest and extremely focused. He may have other things to prove about his abilities, but the indications are all very positive in my opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovjLXEnQOcc

[holidaysong]

Interesting if well travelled points-of-view from Dave Donnelly on extratime.ie

One aspect of his article:


Dundalk qualifying for the group stages and doing well could go a long way towards ensuring the League of Ireland keeps its three Europa League spots.

https://www.extratime.com/articles/25779/opinion-a-rising-tide-lifts-all-boats---but-rivals-fans-are-justified-to-hope-dundalk-fail-in-their-europa-league-bid/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Except that all countries below 15th place will lose their Europa League spots anyway, as we're all being bumped down to the Europa Conference League.

[Neish]

Off the Ball interview with Filippo Giovagnoli

He continues to impress further with every interview I hear - grounded, assured, modest and extremely focused. He may have other things to prove about his abilities, but the indications are all very positive in my opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovjLXEnQOcc

The ability to hold an interview has little to do with being a good manager, Giovagnoli has a massive job if he wants to get Dundalk back to where they where under Kenny, they lost several players that were key to that success. I'll reserve judgement until the end of next season when he has had a proper chance to put his mark on Dundalk

[Ezeikial]

Except that all countries below 15th place will lose their Europa League spots anyway, as we're all being bumped down to the Europa Conference League.

Sure, but whether two or three teams qualify for the European Conference League is dependent on UEFA national co-efficient, the cut off point currently declared at Nation #50 / #51

Good result from League of Ireland clubs clearly has a benefit for all.

[sbgawa]

Fillippo has been very fortunate with the games he has played
Cobh, Shels , Andoran team , Draw with a poor Sheriff team and win on Penos (nice win for me on Paddy Power :) thankfully i backed DFC to qualify ) , side stepped the Rovers match and now a team from the Faroes for a place in the groups.

I hope Dundalk do the business tonight but all we know about him at this point is that he can overcome poor opposition with a team that could do that with a hatstand for a manager

I agree with EZ (did i write that ??? ) so far he talks a good game but the real test will come over the next few months

[Ezeikial]

The ability to hold an interview has little to do with being a good manager,

It looks like we agree on that - although a manager can convey lots about his personality and philosophies in interviews



Giovagnoli has a massive job if he wants to get Dundalk back to where they where under Kenny, they lost several players that were key to that success.I'll reserve judgement until the end of next season when he has had a proper chance to put his mark on Dundalk

That's for sure if he gets the opportunity. There is 9 games minimum - 7 league games plus at least a EL playoff and FAI Cup to the end of the season. I suspect that he will need to make EL progress and/or FAI Cup success to be in the frame for next season.

Nevertheless I remain impressed by what he has to say in interviews

[Ezeikial]

Fillippo has been very fortunate with the games he has played
Cobh, Shels , Andoran team , Draw with a poor Sheriff team and win on Penos (nice win for me on Paddy Power :) thankfully i backed DFC to qualify ) , side stepped the Rovers match and now a team from the Faroes for a place in the groups.

I hope Dundalk do the business tonight but all we know about him at this point is that he can overcome poor opposition with a team that could do that with a hatstand for a manager

I agree with EZ (did i write that ??? ) so far he talks a good game but the real test will come over the next few months

Just like Rovers on Sunday evening, a team can only deal with the opposition that is put on front of them.

Its easy to be dismissive of the likes of Shelbourne (did they draw with Rovers last month?) or Sheriff (who had/have a higher UEFA ranking than any League of Ireland team).

Your admission that you know little about Filippo is fair enough, but as Napolean probably never actually said — 'I know he's a good general, but is he lucky?'

[The Lilywhites]

Bradley was in the paper this morning comparing AC Milan to the difficult draws they got against AIK and Brann, and that he expects it'll be easier to progress in the champions route next year.

AIK and Brann in the same bracket as Milan - really? Found it a very weird comment.

We've been blessed with the draws this year (even Celje were poor, though Sheriff were a step up from them). But it's almost certainly a one-off season in terms of luck.

Not sure what type of team Bradley is expecting to face next year. Brann hardly had any European experience, it was a good draw for them. They scraped by a poor Finnish team this year. It just came across as talking down our achievement of making the EL groups if we do it again. I'm not sure why he was even quoted in a preview piece for tonight, but anyway. Strange comment.

Tonight could be a very dangerous game. A defeat might be very difficult to recover from, in every aspect.

[sbgawa]

He would have been doing Press around the Sligo match tomorrow night and was probably asked about Europe in general.

The champions path is the only realistic way to Group stages anymore and with a favorable draw is very realistic, hence the original Peak6 investment.

Assuming DFC make the groups but lose every match (worst case obv) they will get 2m more Euro money than last year (when they lost 1.2m) so they should make a profit of 1m + this year.
Will Peak6 go again with Groups unlikely next year in the hope they can win the title back?? I would be shocked if they didn't to be honest but if DFC lose tonight the decision could be different.
We have all (bar Pineapple Stu :) )been shaking buckets at different points over the years so only the really embittered would wish for that, as Lillywhite said "defeat would be difficult to recover from in every way"

[pineapple stu]

On a side note actually, I presume group stage qualification would bigly impact the Solidarity fee clubs receive? Haven't heard anything about it this time (though it was mentioned when Dundalk were playing Legia - albeit bigger figures of course)

It is one of those games though where, much and all as you do want to see Dundalk qualify (and let's not have a couple of objectionable fans get in the way of that), it would be cool to see a team from the Faroes in the group stages.

[placid casual]

It is one of those games though where, much and all as you do want to see Dundalk qualify (and let's not have a couple of objectionable fans get in the way of that), it would be cool to see a team from the Faroes in the group stages.
😁😁😁Tell us how you really feel stu!

[pineapple stu]

To paraphrase a wise sage - at European time, fans of LoI clubs come together to support each other, and I'm happy to get on board with that. But I'll happily mock if Dundalk lose - so it's win-win for me really :)

[oriel]

Fillippo has been very fortunate with the games he has played
Cobh, Shels , Andoran team , Draw with a poor Sheriff team and win on Penos (nice win for me on Paddy Power :) thankfully i backed DFC to qualify ) , side stepped the Rovers match and now a team from the Faroes for a place in the groups.

I hope Dundalk do the business tonight but all we know about him at this point is that he can overcome poor opposition with a team that could do that with a hatstand for a manager

I agree with EZ (did i write that ??? ) so far he talks a good game but the real test will come over the next few months

Agreed to an extent and modest oppostion, one being a FD club, but fact still remains, this season DFC had 3 away euro games in a row, and he has had 2 and come through both. Look I get the point, but still think not enough made of still 3 away trips in europe in a row before tonight, and all the travel issues that currently go with covid etc.

Now on tonight, absolutely we are fortunate to be in the position later to qualify in the Aviva against a Faores side, thats not up for argument. You only have to look at the all of the other ties this evening, big hitters in most of them, besides we should really be playing Slovan Bratislva tonight, only for their 0-3 covid walkover, so another fortunate route, but we'll take it.

Hopefully we can do it, but anything can happen in 90 mins, any sort of win will do for me, dont care about the performance.

[geysir]

To paraphrase a wise sage - at European time, fans of LoI clubs come together to support each other, and I'm happy to get on board with that. But I'll happily mock if Dundalk lose - so it's win-win for me really :)

Plagiarism

[geysir]

The Klaksvik secondary schools, kindergartens, emptied out this morning and all the kids marched in class groups to the local stadium and sung the KI anthem, streamed live (https://www.facebook.com/KlaksvikarKommuna/videos/3154485171343558) to the team in the Dublin hotel.


I suppose it would be in poor taste to tell them 'Look, it's only Dundalk'.

[RiffRaff]

I will be keeping everything crossed tonight but surely the 6-1 defeat of Tiblisi would make KI strong favourites? No LOI team has ever recorded a result close to that

[pineapple stu]

Dundalk 3-0 BATE would come close. A smaller but still comprehensive margin against a better side.

[EatYerGreens]

The Klaksvik secondary schools, kindergartens, emptied out this morning and all the kids marched in class groups to the local stadium and sung the KI anthem, streamed live (https://www.facebook.com/KlaksvikarKommuna/videos/3154485171343558) to the team in the Dublin hotel.


I suppose it would be in poor taste to tell them 'Look, it's only Dundalk'.

Irish clubs usually focus on doing the opposite - i.e. start with emptying the stadium :D

[Nesta99]

This is all uniquely LoI type stuff, either a complete disaster or an incredible achievement on the cards. The biggest game in Faroese footballing history against Dundalk FC...no shortage of motivation there for them. Playing in the national stadium but it will be empty. with a manager who is a youth coach really, in a year we have already drawn an Andoran side. For one that suffers nerves when watching my team this could be the end of me - if we cant qualify against a PT Faroese side.....

[Straightstory]

I agree. I wouldn't say Dundalk are favourites tonight. But that 6-1 win over Dinamo is very odd. (Russian interference? Trump involvement? Julian Assange?)

[pineapple stu]

Was talking about last night and it was said that basically every chance KÍ got resulted in a goal.

So a bit of a freak result in one way - but against that, they evidently created six half-decent chances, which is still slightly unexpected.

[Real ale Madrid]

Good luck to Dundalk.

Last time Dundalk got to the group stages Cork city won the league in the following year so I'm clinging to that. It will be the First Division next year but I'm fine with it.

[Ezeikial]

This is all uniquely LoI type stuff, either a complete disaster or an incredible achievement on the cards. The biggest game in Faroese footballing history against Dundalk FC...no shortage of motivation there for them. Playing in the national stadium but it will be empty. with a manager who is a youth coach really, in a year we have already drawn an Andoran side. For one that suffers nerves when watching my team this could be the end of me - if we cant qualify against a PT Faroese side.....

Hey Nesta, you really need to try to relax a little and build some positivity. I get the nerves stuff and catastrophising around the result, but there is a lot of confidence oozing through the squad. The expansive grass pitch at the Aviva will also suits us well and I expect Fillipo will have the team well set up to play to their strengths (I expect to see Sean Murray, Patrick McEleney, Daniel Kelly, Stefan Colivic and Michael Duffy in particular to take the game to KI and avail of the spaces over the course of the match).

The favourites tag does not necessarily rest easy, but I am confident that the League Champions have enough to overcome the inevitable challenges that will present themselves tonight

Dun Dealgan abú

[Scrufil]

Wonder if it is raining tonight which team will slip up first? Irish soccer teams have not impressed much in the Aviva of recent. I would think lots of rain might favour Kí.

[Ezeikial]

Wonder if it is raining tonight which team will slip up first? Irish soccer teams have not impressed much in the Aviva of recent. I would think lots of rain might favour Kí.

Will hail favour Ki even more?




WEATHER
It'll be chilly, rainy and thundery in Dublin, with hail a possibility. Temperatures are unlikely to get above 12 Celsius, though it will be calm with only light breezes.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0930/1168472-all-you-need-to-know-dundalk-v-ki-klaksvik/

[Real ale Madrid]

I'm not sure the weather holds the Kí to the result.

[oriel]

It was suggested that the Tblisi team were suffering from effects of Covid that night, and others missed playing, I`m not sure. It was a superb result either way.

On the betting, PP have increased Dundalk's odds from a prev 1/3 to 1/2, but to qualify is still very short at 1/4.

KL are 4/1 to win in 90 mins and 13/5 to qualify

I hope PP have got it right on the 1/4 odds!

[ger121]

It was suggested that the Tblisi team were suffering from effects of Covid that night, and others missed playing, I`m not sure. It was a superb result either way.

On the betting, PP have increased Dundalk's odds from a prev 1/3 to 1/2, but to qualify is still very short at 1/4.

KL are 4/1 to win in 90 mins and 13/5 to qualify

I hope PP have got it right on the 1/4 odds!

4 of the LOI ties have gone beyond 90 minutes. I think this could happen again tonight. Tight game in wet conditions with Dundalk’s experience and full time squad just giving them the edge on the night. Dundalk 2-1 AET.

[dong]

Are Gannon and Shields not considered first choice these days?
Also, Gartland was out of favour for a good while?

[Real ale Madrid]

Shields is suspended.

[pineapple stu]

Gannon came off injured last week. Is he still out?

[dong]

Giovagnoli on the brink of legend status already. Written off completely in all quarters when he was appointed.

[DCSIL]

Sorry, only saw this now. Game is available Island of Ireland tomorrow night.

EUROPA LEAGUE PLAY-OFF – Thursday 1 October at 7.00pm on RTÉ2

Peter Collins is joined by Richie Sadlier and Stuart Byrne for live coverage from the Aviva Stadium of the Europa League Play-Off between Dundalk and KÍ of the Faroe Islands. Commentary from Darragh Maloney and Johnny McDonnell. KO 7.30pm. Extra time and penalties a possibility.

Not to the UK it seems sadly

[pateen]

Link to the game anyone.

No RTE in tan land

[bennocelt]

Link to the game anyone.

No RTE in tan land


https://nizarstream.com/live/851/Dundalk-vs-KI-Klaksvik
works for me fine

[placid casual]

What time is the Europa League game on? There appears to be a 1st division game on at the moment.