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L.T.F.C.
12/04/2012, 8:15 AM
You would have guessed wrong.
The gate is split. It's a competition no one cares about. We're actively trying to leave Jackman Park. Why in the name of god would we exaggerate our attendances??
You're like that Longford fan in some other thread (forget who or where) who said no way was there 1200 in a ground he'd never been in before in his life last Friday night because he would have guessed around a thousand. :bulgy:
For the record it was three twenty odd not three twenty exactly. I can get the print outs for this (and ALL other games) sent to anyone who's overly arsed.
Thanks. :good:
I was the man that said it. What difference does it make that I was never in the ground before? Fcuking none at all. Looking at the "stand" I would have said that it holds around 250 maybe? And that wasn't even full. There was about 50 to the right of the stand as you look at it, I know I was there. So lets say that was 300. I didn't think there was another 1000 (att 1270) around the rest of the pitch. Anyway, I don't give a flying... we won.
punkrocket
12/04/2012, 9:57 AM
Looking at those attendances they look reasonably healthy with most crowds going up. Is this usually the case for this time of year or do they start dropping off as the season progresses? I expect Ireland's appearance at the Euros to give things a bit of a boost in a couple of months as well. Mind you I expect us to get to the final (Germans to win on penalties)
El-Pietro
12/04/2012, 10:01 AM
always start bright and drop off - our crowds are about to fall off a cliff I'd imagine. Our start will not encourage the GCSP to attend our games.
Dodge
12/04/2012, 10:22 AM
always start bright and drop off - our crowds are about to fall off a cliff I'd imagine. Our start will not encourage the GCSP to attend our games.
Even with Munster being ****e now? Suppose the GAA is about to start though
El-Pietro
12/04/2012, 10:29 AM
Even with Munster being ****e now? Suppose the GAA is about to start though
are Munster not in the Euro Rugby Semi finals or something?
red bellied
12/04/2012, 12:04 PM
Are all premier division sides now giving official attendances?
Dodge
12/04/2012, 12:16 PM
Are all premier division sides now giving official attendances?
No, most still don't
A face
12/04/2012, 12:34 PM
No, most still don't
I thought they had to now as per licencing no? If not then it should be a requirement to renewing a licence. We still give the figures out anyway, announced at each game.
I thought they had to now as per licencing no? If not then it should be a requirement to renewing a licence. We still give the figures out anyway, announced at each game.
They have to give the FAI the correct figure but they certainly don't release them to press/public. pats do
Doesn't bother me. Everyone can see the crowds, the figures are immaterial
El-Pietro
12/04/2012, 1:43 PM
I wouldn't say they are immaterial. If the FAI have them then that is something, but its good to be able to chart improvement/disimprovement and try and spot trends. I mean if someone had the time they could go through each of these threads and find out what impact form/league position has on attendances for each club, what impact the time of day, day of the week or even weather has on games. Could look into it further and find out what other events could be affecting crowds.
redarmyfaction
12/04/2012, 2:35 PM
Fair to ltid for putting up those attendances, a bit of work involved. I would say they are in better shape than this time last year, but disappointing starts to the season for cork and Derry will certainly affect the overall average add the year goes on.
I wouldn't say they are immaterial. If the FAI have them then that is something, but its good to be able to chart improvement/disimprovement and try and spot trends. I mean if someone had the time they could go through each of these threads and find out what impact form/league position has on attendances for each club, what impact the time of day, day of the week or even weather has on games. Could look into it further and find out what other events could be affecting crowds.
its immaterial to me though, thats the point. Of course clubs should have the correct info, but it shouldn't matter to fans whether 1,400 or 1,241 attended. For some here its about petty point scoring, but for most fans crowds fit into the brutal/decent/good/great categories. Anything else is just waffle.
Look at the arguments in all of these threads. You might have 15 posts on whether Sligo brought 300 or 400 to an away game. Whats the point in arguing that? Either way its a great travelling support.
Strawberry
12/04/2012, 3:36 PM
Our next two crowds will be down what with them both being on tv
Lim till i die
12/04/2012, 4:21 PM
I was the man that said it. What difference does it make that I was never in the ground before? Fcuking none at all. Looking at the "stand" I would have said that it holds around 250 maybe? And that wasn't even full. There was about 50 to the right of the stand as you look at it, I know I was there. So lets say that was 300. I didn't think there was another 1000 (att 1270) around the rest of the pitch. Anyway, I don't give a flying... we won.
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Looking at those attendances they look reasonably healthy with most crowds going up. Is this usually the case for this time of year or do they start dropping off as the season progresses?
They'll fall away in most cases. A few averages boosted by Good Friday there aswell. (Limerick going 820, 680, 1270 for example)
Like only speaking on the First Division.
Athlone will stabilise between two to three hundred unless Magic Mike leads them on a playoff push. (could happen)
Harps will drop away a good bit when people realise they're probably not going to win anything.
There isn't a hope we'll finish on anywhere near 924. 550-600 is more realistic.
Longford will probably jump another hundred or so as the season goes on.
Mervue and SD Galway, meh.
Waterford looks about right and dangerously stable from there point of view. Can't see much in the way of improvement until they get a new boss/players.
Wexfords crowds will drop off when their players realise they're terrible. (Hopefully starting this Friday!!)
Sam_Heggy
12/04/2012, 4:32 PM
Harps will drop away a good bit when people realise they're probably not going to win anything.
Ha, you're completely deluded. Sure we barely expected to win a game this season never mind silverware. For us to be getting any sort of crowd is a miracle considering we haven't had a penny/decent side since 2007.
Lim till i die
12/04/2012, 4:34 PM
*yawns*
I've already talked with nige about what I think of Harps "crowds", not getting into it again.
Tell you what, if there's anything like 600 there in two weeks I'll buy you a coke, can't say fairer than that. :ball:
L.T.F.C.
12/04/2012, 9:05 PM
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They'll fall away in most cases. A few averages boosted by Good Friday there aswell. (Limerick going 820, 680, 1270 for example)
Like only speaking on the First Division.
Athlone will stabilise between two to three hundred unless Magic Mike leads them on a playoff push. (could happen)
Harps will drop away a good bit when people realise they're probably not going to win anything.
There isn't a hope we'll finish on anywhere near 924. 550-600 is more realistic.
Longford will probably jump another hundred or so as the season goes on.
Mervue and SD Galway, meh.
Waterford looks about right and dangerously stable from there point of view. Can't see much in the way of improvement until they get a new boss/players.
Wexfords crowds will drop off when their players realise they're terrible. (Hopefully starting this Friday!!)
You're an idiot.
oriel
12/04/2012, 10:49 PM
Are all premier division sides now giving official attendances?
Could never understand why clubs do not, what is there is to hide? Not like crowds are massive all over the league. We occasionally do which makes it even more frustrating. We did for the last home game, 1,362 v Shels.
Could never understand why clubs do not, what is there is to hide?
To quote Ollie Byrne when asked about it 10-15 years ago "what good will it do?"
In fairness he, and others who feel/felt the same way, have a point. Estimates are nearly always 10-20% higher than the real figure. if people want to think there's 1,500 at a game when there's only 1,300 at it, what harm?
As I said earlier, as long as the clubs and FAI know whats coming in.
Sean South
13/04/2012, 8:39 AM
I thought they had to now as per licencing no? If not then it should be a requirement to renewing a licence. We still give the figures out anyway, announced at each game.
With all the problems in the league announcing the attendance isn't one.
sullanefc
13/04/2012, 8:33 PM
2402 at Turner's Cross
2431 according to a post on ccfcforum and the official updates.
Trainee
13/04/2012, 8:35 PM
Quote from to extra time about attendance in terryland
"Tonight's official attendance from MC Pete Kelly is 447".
Stevo Da Gull
13/04/2012, 8:41 PM
Extratime also puts the Shels - Bray game at 1008.
Terry-Lander
13/04/2012, 8:46 PM
Quote from to extra time about attendance in terryland
"Tonight's official attendance from MC Pete Kelly is 447".
As game started the reporter on GBFM said there were 'about 200'. Must have been a hell of a lot in late.
gufct
13/04/2012, 10:13 PM
As game started the reporter on GBFM said there were 'about 200'. Must have been a hell of a lot in late.
We passed by at 7.45pm heading home from thr removal and there was no one on the Dyke Road and not a soul going into the ground.
Dunny
13/04/2012, 10:15 PM
Rovers v Dundalk - 3200
Cuyahoga
13/04/2012, 10:27 PM
Sligo v Derry 2,488 . Cork v Monaghan 2,402 ( Both according to extratime.ie)
sadloserkid
13/04/2012, 10:56 PM
I'd guess 350ish at Wexford-Limerick. Somebody else may have a more accurate figure.
**** crowd for a game v Derry.
cornflakes
14/04/2012, 10:53 AM
I'd guess 350ish at Wexford-Limerick. Somebody else may have a more accurate figure.
ForzaForth (http://foot.ie/threads/165132-Limerick?p=1587999&viewfull=1#post1587999) reckons 480, I'd usually agree with his estimates but I'l go for around 420. It was definitely more than the 300 estimate on Extratime tho
ger121
14/04/2012, 2:37 PM
**** crowd for a game v Derry.
I suppose on the plus side, your crowds are very solid. Over the course of the season that has to be a good sign.
adamd164
14/04/2012, 7:59 PM
Quite pleased with our crowd this weekend, 2400-odd considering we had a terrible start and Monaghan had no fans there ain't bad. If we can up it by a few hundred against Sligo next week and keep playing a bit of decent football we should be ok.
Lim till i die
15/04/2012, 12:38 AM
Cork v Mons - 2431 (Official)
Drogs v Pats - 1282 (Official)
Shamrock v Dundalk - 3200 (on here)
Shels v Bray - 1008 (Official)
Sligo v Derry - 2488 (Official)
UCD v Bohs - 772 (Official)
SD Galway v Mervue - 447 (Official)
Wexford v Limerick - 420 (Fairest estimate)
Any Athlone, Waterford, Harps or Longford fans want to estimate/confirm crowds??
Gorm agus Bán
15/04/2012, 12:46 AM
I would say roughly 300-350 at Flancare Park. About 25 Harps fans.
Cork v Mons - 2431 (Official)
Drogs v Pats - 1282 (Official)
Shamrock v Dundalk - 3200 (on here)
Shels v Bray - 1008 (Official)
Sligo v Derry - 2488 (Official)
UCD v Bohs - 772 (Official)
SD Galway v Mervue - 447 (Official)
Wexford v Limerick - 420 (Fairest estimate)
Any Athlone, Waterford, Harps or Longford fans want to estimate/confirm crowds??
Galway BayFM estimated 200, I counted around 310-320. I know, all over the shop, but who cares anymore?
bluemovie
15/04/2012, 10:23 AM
Any Athlone, Waterford, Harps or Longford fans want to estimate/confirm crowds??
Not much more than 300 at Blues v Athlone
sadloserkid
15/04/2012, 10:40 AM
Not much more than 300 at Blues v Athlone
Think I saw 324 in The Star for what little that's worth?
De Town
15/04/2012, 11:23 AM
I would say roughly 300-350 at Flancare Park. About 25 Harps fans.
About right that. Disgraceful turnout from us.
nigel-harps1954
15/04/2012, 4:41 PM
Harps will drop away a good bit when people realise they're probably not going to win anything.
Lol, you again? ;P Wait till we see what happens next week.
About right that. Disgraceful turnout from us.
Disappointing for a team top of the league alright, I really like Flancare, but it looks awful when theres 300 people in the ground.
Town Legend
15/04/2012, 4:49 PM
Unfortunately with summer soccer we're battling with the GAA for numbers as I know quite a few who'd like to attend both, but if they clash the GAA will win out in the end.
gael353
15/04/2012, 7:16 PM
Lol, you again? ;P Wait till we see what happens next week.
in fairness if ye cant get over 700 next week ye can forget about it. Your after beating the league leaders and "big spending" :rolleyes: Limerick are comming to town and we should be bringing a few next week too
corkharps
15/04/2012, 10:43 PM
in fairness if ye cant get over 700 next week ye can forget about it. Your after beating the league leaders and "big spending" :rolleyes: Limerick are comming to town and we should be bringing a few next week too
FGS,please don't let someone from Limerick be lecturing about LOI crowds????
nigel-harps1954
15/04/2012, 10:43 PM
No idea why big spending had to be inside inverted commas there. All the same, I couldn't care less if there was 50 people in the ground next week long as we beat the big spenders.
Lim till i die
15/04/2012, 11:57 PM
It depends how you define "big spending" like.
People in Lissywoolen screaming we'd three players on 2 grand a week each a few weeks back. :bulgy:
On the Harps thing, all I ever suggested was crowds would drop off a bit if and when they fell away.
I'm scratching my head as to how this is controversial??
Expect a BIG crowd Saturday mind :gulps:
Anyways....
Week 7:
Cork v Mons - 2431 (Official)
Drogs v Pats - 1282 (Official)
Shamrock v Dundalk - 3200 (extratime)
Shels v Bray - 1008 (Official)
Sligo v Derry - 2488 (Official)
UCD v Bohs - 772 (Official)
Longford v Harps - 325 (Middle of the estimate)
SD Galway v Mervue - 315 (Terry counted, fairplay)
Waterford v Athlone - 324 (The Star)
Wexford v Limerick - 420 (Fairest estimate)
Week 7 Averages:
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 1874 (2011 - 1,488; 2010- 1,835; 2009 - 2,366; 2008 - 1,993; 2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976)
Bray - 850 (1,121; 952; 1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Cork - 3389 (2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681; 3,142; 2,897; 2,941; 3,644)
Derry - 2500 (2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436; 3,363; 2,614; 3,229; 2,698)
Drogheda - 1231 (811; 859; 1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 1262 (1,355; 1,877; 2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Monaghan - 1125 (372 FD; 410 FD; 183 FD; 177 FD; 292 FD; 204 FD; 183 FD)
Pat's - 1976 (1,346; 1,756; 1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 4075 (3,779; 3,794; 3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539)
Shels - 1500 (781 FD; 737 FD; 972 FD; 986 FD; 888 FD; 1,690; 1,949)
Sligo - 2436 (2,103; 1,807; 1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
UCD - 523 (558; 610; 272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 346 (200; 354; 462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Harps - 613 (433; 644; 480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106)
Limerick - 924 (569; 598; 429; 517; 670; 364; 669)
Longford - 408 (315; 230; 260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD)
Mervue - 200 (349; 123; 166)
SD Galway - 221 (125; 122 - As Salthill Devon FC)
Waterford - 333 (466; 619; 434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 399 (216; 343; 494; 767; 810)
PREMIER DIVISION AVERAGE: 1895
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 430
Dunny
16/04/2012, 12:15 AM
The Rovers - Dundalk figure was taken from extratime
Not so sure we'll see out crowd jump for the Limerick game. The last game was on Good Friday- probably the easiest day to get a crowd and that wasn't great. Plus getting hammered by Derry's reserves probably impacts the consciousness more than winning away in Longford.
Hope I'm massively wrong obviously.
sadloserkid
16/04/2012, 9:05 AM
No idea why big spending had to be inside inverted commas there.
That in itself kinda explains it actually. :)
nigel-harps1954
16/04/2012, 2:47 PM
To be honest, if Harps averaged out at 600-700 for the rest of the season I'd consider that relatively successful. If we're pushing promotion toward the end of the season it might see a rise, but at the minute, maintaining the crowds we have would be a success compared to how many fans we've lost over the past few years for various reasons.
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