European Football 2012

[nigel-harps1954]

So, technically, Rovers are unseeded for round 2, but, they could possibly be seeded for round 3? Am I picking this up right?

Couple of very tough games though to get past first, and unless a goalkeeper is found, I don't see them passing one round unfortunately. Should do all they can to sign Gabriel Sava or someone along those lines in the transfer window.

[Bawnville Hoop]

So, technically, Rovers are unseeded for round 2, but, they could possibly be seeded for round 3? Am I picking this up right?

Couple of very tough games though to get past first, and unless a goalkeeper is found, I don't see them passing one round unfortunately. Should do all they can to sign Gabriel Sava or someone along those lines in the transfer window.

The Draw for round 3 is made during the round 2 tie. So say we are playing Bate Borisov they will use their seeding in the draw.
eg. Bate/Rovers v Flora Tallinn/Ekranas

If a league of Ireland team was to ever get in to the playoffs now it would be by beating Helsingborg/Bate and being seeded in round 3

[JC_GUFC]

If a league of Ireland team was to ever get in to the playoffs now it would be by beating Helsingborg/Bate and being seeded in round 3

Would you not fancy your chances against Partizan again this season?

[bennocelt]

Dont know about Helsinborgs or Bate but the Lithuania and Latvia teams def are beatable

[Dodge]

Dont know about Helsinborgs

Irish teams have beaten Swedish oppenents 4 of the last 6 times. All Rovers need is a keeper and a defence, and who knows?

[DaveyCakes]

So, technically, Rovers are unseeded for round 2, but, they could possibly be seeded for round 3? Am I picking this up right?



The first and second rounds are drawn at the same time and the third round is drawn between the 2 legs of the second round, so the seedings in the 2nd & 3rd rounds are done on the assumption that the seeded teams for the previous round all qualify. Therefore, if an unseeded team beats a seeded team, they take their seeding into the next round, which may (or may not) lead to them being seeded in the subsequent round.

[ger121]

I'd give Rovers a decent shout against most of the lower seeded teams. Though there's some tough ones, even at that end of the seedings... As others have said, the Latvian/Lithuanian teams would be the pick. Maybe even Zestafoni.

Helsingborg IF Swe 12.680
Sheriff Tiraspol Mol 9.849
DVSC Debrecen Hun 7.950
NK Maribor Slo 6.424
FK Ventspils Lat 5.674
Slovan Liberec Cze 5.570
Slask Wroclaw Pol 5.483
HJK Helsinki Fin 5.326
AEL Limassol Cyp 5.099
Ekranas Panevezys Lit 4.875

[bennocelt]

Irish teams have beaten Swedish oppenents 4 of the last 6 times. All Rovers need is a keeper and a defence, and who knows?

I know that Dodge, but this Shamrock rovers team at the moment......:(

[SPXcyan]

I've been watching plenty of Polish football this year and that team Slask Wroclaw would walk over Rovers unfortunately, I fear it's going to be game over for Rovers after just one round, it'll be odd for them after last season.

[sparky12345678]

Zestafoni win appeal, Shamrock Rovers unseeded.

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ka&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgeosports.ge%2Findex.php%3Foption%3 Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D3312%253Aqq-%26catid%3D9%253A2012-03-05-10-17-18&act=url

Overall I think the league has done well to have Pats seeded in the first 2 rounds, Bohs the first.

Rovers could always get Helsingborgs, beating them takes their seeding for round 3. Latvia and Lithuania our hope.

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedcl2011.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_UEFA_Champions_League#Second_quali fying_round

how come on both shams are seeded??

[A N Mouse]

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedcl2011.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_UEFA_Champions_League#Second_quali fying_round

how come on both shams are seeded??

Because chelsea won that first one.

And the wikipedia entry (correct year) makes no claims as to seeding.

try here

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedcl2012.html

[Dodge]

With all the leagues concerned finished, it basically boiled down to Chelsea denying Rovers their seeding.

[Bawnville Hoop]

With all the leagues concerned finished, it basically boiled down to Chelsea denying Rovers their seeding.

Frustrating but that's football. Only hope, very slim is Metalurgi's appeal. No news from it yet.

We could end up getting Latvia as opposed to getting Molde being seeded :)

[Real ale Madrid]

With all the leagues concerned finished, it basically boiled down to Chelsea denying Rovers their seeding.

Didn't Sligo benefit from a similar thing last year i.e Bumped up to Q3 from Q2 due to 2 Portugese teams in the EL final or something. Swings and roundabouts for the league I guess.

[Dodge]

Didn't Sligo benefit from a similar thing last year i.e Bumped up to Q3 from Q2 due to 2 Portugese teams in the EL final or something. Swings and roundabouts for the league I guess.

Kinda. Porto won the Europa in 10/11 but were entered in CL on 11/12 so the 'title holder' spot wasn't used. Ireland ranked 29th got the Cup winners bumped a round

This years champions league didn't see a change in the number of teams, just that Chelsea took a group spot from someone, which saw everyone else bump down a spot

[Colbert Report]

When's the draw, anyone know?

[A N Mouse]

When's the draw, anyone know?

bert has the answers to all your queries (http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/calendar2012.html)

[nigel-harps1954]

Jesus they don't give an awful lot of time to organise flights and such do they?

[Bawnville Hoop]

Jesus they don't give an awful lot of time to organise flights and such do they?

That adds to it :)

[Dublin Red]

When are the European draws?

[gufcfan]

When are the European draws?

Initial Champions League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_UEFA_Champions_League#Round_and_dr aw_dates) and Europa League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_UEFA_Europa_League#Round_and_draw_ dates) draws on Monday 25th June.

[swinfordfc]

Well St. Pats are seeded for the first 2 qualifying rounds ..... with abit of luck.......

[Bawnville Hoop]

Shamrock Rovers potential opponents
Helsingborg, Ventspils, Ekranas, Helsinki

......Basel, Salzburg,

[mypost]

Ekranas at home first.

[bennocelt]

Links please?

[Spudulika]

mypost, is that for sure, maybe it's the wifi here but I can't get the uefa video to stream. Good draw if it's right!

[bennocelt]

Likewise, cant get uefa stream, but has it even started yet?

[Spudulika]

I'm beginning to think no, and I've run out of excuses why I should be hiding from a whining and annoying client who needs a good boot where the sun don't shine. I'll give it a few minutes then just get back to work.

edit" Just saw it pop up on Rovers website. Nowhere else though.

[Dunny]

What time is it due to start?

[Dodge]

Rovers defo got Ekranes.

Europa due to start at 12, but who knows? Everything about UEFA.com has failed today

[bennocelt]

Mariborr - Zeleznichar
Zilina - Ironi Kiryat
BATE - Vardar
AEK(Cyprus) - Linfield/B36
Shamrock Rovers - Erkanas
Flora - Basel
The New Saints - Helsingborg
HJK(Finland) - KR(sweden)
Molde - Ventispils
F91/Tre Penne - Salzburg
Slovan - Shakter (Kazakhstan)
Ludogorec - Dinamo Zagreb
Neftchi - Zestafoni
Ulises - Sheriff Tiraspol
Valetta/Lusitanos - Partizan
Buducnost - Slask Wroclaw

from fbook

[Spudulika]

11am Irish time, but I've just had a text that the draw was right, Rovers go to Lithuania. I just hope the EL draw works or I've just wasted an hour!

[ger121]

That's a very good draw for Rovers considering the other potential opposition

[passinginterest]

Decent draw for Rovers, hopefully the other teams will fare as well in the Europa draw.

[bennocelt]

Repeat of last year

IBV Vestmannyaer v. St. Pat's Athletic, home leg not confirmed

[ger121]

We're off to Iceland too

http://www.bohemians.ie/news/4-club-news/1648-bohemians-to-face-thor-akureyri-in-europa-league-qualifiers.html

[bennocelt]

Bohemians - Þór Akureyri/ Thor AK
icelandic team

[bennocelt]

Great draws for the Irish teams

[legendz]

The process begins to give some teams ease of access to EL group stage:

Under a new format, six teams have been given access straight to the group stage alongside holders Club Atlético de Madrid as the domestic cup winners in the top ranked nations. They are SSC Napoli, Olympique Lyonnais, A. Académica de Coimbra and FC Rubin Kazan plus Tottenham Hotspur FC and Bayer 04 Leverkusen, taking over the places that would have been filled by UEFA Champions League-bound Chelsea FC and Borussia Dortmund. Also in the group stage will be 31 play-off winners and ten sides beaten at that round of the UEFA Champions League.

Hope the draw works out for Irish clubs involved.

[Charlie Darwin]

That could have gone an awful lot worse. Not that it matters the way the team is playing this season.

[adamd164]

we knocked Ekranas out of the UEFA cup in 2005 I think it was. Good draw for rovers.

[ger121]

Rovers got the lowest ranked seeds. It couldn't have gone any better for them really. Some good draws for the Irish Clubs so far...

[legendz]

Yeah, def a good draw for Rovers. Basel and Red Bull Salzburg were the higher seeds they could've gotten.

[DeNiro]

When will Pats and Bohs confirm the fixtures? On Pats website it says subject to confirmation but by the look of the draw both will be at home on 5 July.

[horton]

That could have gone an awful lot worse. Not that it matters the way the team is playing this season.
That'll teach ye's for robbing our manager!:D Has anyone researched the travel logistics yet? How easy are these places to get to?

[Real ale Madrid]

When will Pats and Bohs confirm the fixtures? On Pats website it says subject to confirmation but by the look of the draw both will be at home on 5 July.

Think both games are scheduled to take place on the same ground in Iceland so there may be a change.

Draw's have been a total shambles today - 2nd round draw's ongoing for Sligo, Pats and Bohs and nothing on the website.

[redobit]

Spartak Trnava from Slovakia. Away first.

[Charlie Darwin]

They knocked out Levski Sofia last season and lost respectaby to Lokomotiv in the Europa playoff. Looks like it'll be a tough one for Sligo.

[Spudulika]

Handy one for Sligo fans, Ryanair to Bratislava and a bus trip to Trnava. Lovely club, nice ground, good money behind them with their own brand of sweets. Hope Sligo can keep it tight away and nip it at home.

[Real ale Madrid]

If St. Pats get past IBV, then their "reward" is a 2nd leg tie with Siroki Brijeg of Bosnia.