View Full Version : The Derry City thread - Derry sign first four players
Magicme
06/09/2009, 1:40 PM
From what i heard only two PREMIER DIVISION clubs have not had the PFAI in this season, Shams and ourselves.
Fixed that wee techincal ommission for you. ;)
SMorgan
06/09/2009, 2:24 PM
Dundalk didn't have them in. They represented Dave Rogers. But he wasn't a Dundalk player at the time.
I was absolutely delighted to read that Dundalk FC and its' players dealt directly with each other without the PFAI haven been called in and no input from them.
Great to see and well done to the players.
Amazing really that the Dundalk players would accept cuts when the club had only just signed players. Crazy situation.
Rovers Maniac
06/09/2009, 4:01 PM
Fixed that wee techincal ommission for you. ;)
Actually yes i should have said that, 'premier division'.
cheech
06/09/2009, 4:32 PM
I've said this before in here and been battered for it but Sligo are paying out massive money and unless the cut the spending, they are headed for big trouble.
Lets see how well you think Sligo are run when you see your 'profit' at the end of this season.
wexfordned
06/09/2009, 4:38 PM
From what i heard only two clubs have not had the PFAI in this season, Shams and ourselves.
Well they haven't been into Bohs this year either.
srfc1928
06/09/2009, 9:11 PM
I've said this before in here and been battered for it but Sligo are paying out massive money and unless the cut the spending, they are headed for big trouble.
Lets see how well you think Sligo are run when you see your 'profit' at the end of this season.
Fair enough cheech, Im not trying to bury my head in the sand here but what information have you got to back up that "Sligo are paying out massive money"
Rovers1
06/09/2009, 9:35 PM
I've said this before in here and been battered for it but Sligo are paying out massive money and unless the cut the spending, they are headed for big trouble.
And your basing this on...?
cheech
06/09/2009, 10:13 PM
And your basing this on...?
Look, if you know the goings on at Sligo, you will know that someone that has been involved with the club for years, previously resigned because of the spending. He is back again now.
It was him that told me.
If you know who I am talking about, ask him. He isn't shy in voicing his concerns about his club.
On the Dungannon forum, the information on today's court case is as follows:
The short version is Derry City have to disclose the full details transfer deal to the court by Monday and a judgement should be made by Wednesday.
If Derry are unable to pay, they will then face a winding up order.
Very odd that Derry wouldn't have the details today, but there you are.
Mr_Parker
23/09/2009, 10:39 PM
On the Dungannon forum, the information on today's court case is as follows:
Very odd that Derry wouldn't have the details today, but there you are.
Not odd when you know the rest of the story. :D
Acornvilla
23/09/2009, 10:52 PM
just what the league needs.......
Mr_Parker
24/09/2009, 7:14 AM
What's the deadline for the submission of the financial aspects of the FAI's domestic/Uefa Licence applications?
Acornvilla
24/09/2009, 7:40 AM
What's the deadline for the submission of the financial aspects of the FAI's domestic/Uefa Licence applications?
The deadline for submission is October 31st with the exception of financial information, which does not have to be submitted until January 31st.
i think
Sam_Heggy
24/09/2009, 8:14 AM
Surely Dungannon would be able to get the info from Celtic if needs be?
Strange situation, in one way it would serve as a warning to other clubs to pay their dues but, on the other hand it would be a huge blow to the league and especially Harps if Derry were to be wound up.
Battery Rover
24/09/2009, 8:21 AM
What's the deadline for the submission of the financial aspects of the FAI's domestic/Uefa Licence applications?
No monies owed to players and transfers (or agreements made) I think by the 15th December
Fully audited accounts by the end of January
Mr_Parker
24/09/2009, 8:33 AM
Surely Dungannon would be able to get the info from Celtic if needs be?
Strange situation, in one way it would serve as a warning to other clubs to pay their dues but, on the other hand it would be a huge blow to the league and especially Harps if Derry were to be wound up.
No obligation on Celtic to get involved as it stands and I am sure they would not want to get directly involved if they can avoid it.
Mr_Parker
24/09/2009, 8:34 AM
The deadline for submission is October 31st with the exception of financial information, which does not have to be submitted until January 31st.
i think
No monies owed to players and transfers (or agreements made) I think by the 15th December
Fully audited accounts by the end of January
So basically if there is not an agreed resolution to this by that date they will not be able to get get their Licience?
So the theory goes. In practice however.....
Mr_Parker
24/09/2009, 8:37 AM
So the theory goes. In practice however.....
Given that this involves teams from 2 national associations "in practice" will be for Uefa to possibly decide not the FAI. ;)
My guess would be that DCFC can get away with it if Dungannon make an agreement with them. Given that denying DCFC a license would mean that they have no hope of seeing their money, I'd imagine an accommodation will be reached. Much depends on DSFC's willingness to really play hardball, but given how badly they've been treated you never know.
MariborKev
24/09/2009, 8:46 AM
Much depends on DSFC's willingness to really play hardball, but given how badly they've been treated you never know.
I'd say they will defo play hardball, given they played the softly softly approach so far and got nowhere.
Mr_Parker
24/09/2009, 12:54 PM
My guess would be that DCFC can get away with it if Dungannon make an agreement with them. Given that denying DCFC a license would mean that they have no hope of seeing their money, I'd imagine an accommodation will be reached. Much depends on DSFC's willingness to really play hardball, but given how badly they've been treated you never know.
Iirc, Derry City's record with such agreements in the past with Dungannon isn't to good. I would guess that Dungannon would want to see the bulk of money prior to any Licence cut-off date.
OneRedArmy
24/09/2009, 1:02 PM
I think if they are seeking a winding up order we can assume its well into hardball territory....
pineapple stu
24/09/2009, 1:07 PM
Maybe they just think it's how things work down here?
John83
24/09/2009, 1:50 PM
That'd be the biggest stretch since Monroe's "warm handshake".
SMorgan
27/09/2009, 4:54 PM
According to today's Newspaper, Derry City have got until tomorrow afternoon to furnish the High Court in Belfast with the details of the transfer agreement relating to McGinn’s move to Celtic. This despite the fact that Derry pointed out that there is a confidentiality clause in the deal that stops them revealing details.
SMorgan
27/09/2009, 6:40 PM
Northern Ireland edition of the Star on Sunday. The article is based on comments made by the chairman of Dungannon. He's not a happy camper!!!
SeanDrog
27/09/2009, 8:01 PM
Maybe they just think it's how things work down here?
:D made me laugh out loud anyhow
fionnsci
27/09/2009, 11:25 PM
IF Derry were to go bust, would we see a re-emergence of DCFC in the loi? I'm sure the IFA would be happier to see a high profile Derr side in their league.
Can't see it coming to that to be honest.
fionnsci
27/09/2009, 11:44 PM
Can't see it coming to that to be honest.
Hence the 'IF'.
Still, it'd be interesting to know.
Flexy
28/09/2009, 11:42 AM
I think Derry must also be due money from Celtic soon as I think when he makes 10 appearances Derry get another £50k, and they I think its in the contract of McGinn as well. " ex players who are performing very well at the moment.
MariborKev
28/09/2009, 3:08 PM
IF Derry were to go bust, would we see a re-emergence of DCFC in the loi? I'm sure the IFA would be happier to see a high profile Derr side in their league.
Personally, I think the option should be on the table for discussion. I'd say it would be overwhelmingly defeated, but it never harms to remind people.
I think Derry must also be due money from Celtic soon as I think when he makes 10 appearances Derry get another £50k, and they I think its in the contract of McGinn as well. " ex players who are performing very well at the moment.
McCourt's goal at the weekend was pure brilliance ! it was worth 50k alone :D reminded me of a goal he got against us a few years ago when he was with Rovers.
SMorgan
28/09/2009, 5:22 PM
Personally, I think the option should be on the table for discussion. I'd say it would be overwhelmingly defeated, but it never harms to remind people.
The point is Kev that if Derry City, as currently constituted, goes out of existence then any new club will not get the option of joining the LOI. The IFA make a big mistake at an Inter-League meeting held in Oriel Park in 1984 and they knew it shortly afterwards. It’s a mistake they are most unlikely to repeat.
Mr_Parker
28/09/2009, 10:11 PM
According to today's Newspaper, Derry City have got until tomorrow afternoon to furnish the High Court in Belfast with the details of the transfer agreement relating to McGinn’s move to Celtic. This despite the fact that Derry pointed out that there is a confidentiality clause in the deal that stops them revealing details.
Did they deliver or was it more stalling tactics....:rolleyes:
MariborKev
28/09/2009, 10:30 PM
Derry stall on a transfer fee? Never........(Insert sutiable sarcastic smiley here)
Gather round
28/09/2009, 10:50 PM
The point is Kev that if Derry City, as currently constituted, goes out of existence then any new club will not get the option of joining the LOI. The IFA make a big mistake at an Inter-League meeting held in Oriel Park in 1984 and they knew it shortly afterwards. It’s a mistake they are most unlikely to repeat
Let's hope it doesn't come to that :( . I for one want to see a strong LoI with Bohs, Cork and Derry all thriving.
I'm sure the IFA would be happier to see a high profile Derry side in their league
There's always Stute...
Acornvilla
28/09/2009, 10:55 PM
has anyone any updates of the situation??
MariborKev
28/09/2009, 11:21 PM
has anyone any updates of the situation??
Acornvilla, below is a picture from the latest DCFC press conference on the issue
http://www.germanblogs.de/pub/germanblogs/politik/comical_ali-240x180.jpg
Unconfirmed reports indicate the same individual is on his way to Muster to "smooth over a few local difficulties"
Acornvilla
28/09/2009, 11:23 PM
haha 'we have crushed the americans' whyle you see american tanks in the backgrund! godda love his spirit!
Mr_Parker
29/09/2009, 8:12 AM
has anyone any updates of the situation??
Last I heard was that Derry had not presented the letter to the Judge. That may have changed by close but I wouldn't bet on it.
belfastred
30/09/2009, 1:43 PM
Apparently the case has been adjourned for 1 week for Derry to provide more information
dcfcsteve
30/09/2009, 2:20 PM
The point is Kev that if Derry City, as currently constituted, goes out of existence then any new club will not get the option of joining the LOI. The IFA make a big mistake at an Inter-League meeting held in Oriel Park in 1984 and they knew it shortly afterwards. It’s a mistake they are most unlikely to repeat.
But EU laws have changed since that time. As a result, so long as the entry rules of a league are followed (e.g. a vote amongst members), then a club form one league is legally entitled to seek and receive assent to join a league in a different jurisdiction.
Ergo - it is not the IFA's right to refuse a northern club access to the LOI if LOI clubs vote to accept them. The IFA would have its ass grilled under EU Competition and Restraint of Trade Rules - just like the Welsh FA did in the 1990's.
I'm soooooo bored at having to explain this every couple of months on here.
dcfcsteve
30/09/2009, 2:22 PM
There's always Stute...
He said 'high profile'..... :D
Mr_Parker
30/09/2009, 8:20 PM
Apparently the case has been adjourned for 1 week for Derry to provide more information
What's the FAI closing date for Domestic Licence applications?
corkharps
30/09/2009, 8:44 PM
What's the FAI closing date for Domestic Licence applications?
April 1st.
From FAI:
31 October FAI Submission Date — Deadline for League of Ireland clubs to submit completed Licence Application to FAI Licensing Manager (see below for extended deadline for Financial Information).
November – February FAI Club Auditors verify Licence Applications.
FAI Club Licensing Department meets and/or visits clubs as necessary.
31 January Extended Deadline for League of Ireland clubs to submit financial documentation if not already received by submission date.
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