View Full Version : The Derry City thread - Derry sign first four players
Terry-Lander
07/11/2009, 6:01 PM
Derry City = The BEST fans in the country imo.
Agree with others who remember the sudden blast of sound and colour that the loi got when Derry first joined, it made the league special at the time.
Best of luck to all DCFC fans.
1st time post
07/11/2009, 6:02 PM
Sorry for my Ignorance!
What Derry City Football Club have done "IS this not Cheating"?
Ya ours was a different situation but we were stiil in the sh it, Everyone grasps that they have done wrong but coming on here to gloat when its obviously only genuine Derry fans on this site who at the minute are in the total limbo about where their club from here is hardly helpful
higgins
07/11/2009, 6:03 PM
There's no way Derry can play in the First Division next year. A new company will now have to apply for a licence, I guess they will do that but it will take a lot of time to set this up and organise themselves.
Unless the FAI change the structure of the league or the licence process then a year out of football and life in the A Championship in 2011 looks most likely.
They should really clear up Kildares position too. Do they or do they not have to play the playoff?? If they stick with 12 teams in First Division then it looks like Kildare are safe yet again.
Why are you still here, I thought you didn't care.
Feel very sorry for the fans of Derry City, but delighted the cheats running the club have been caught out and if the players and management knew what was going on, they should also be banned from playing football at any level for a certain period of time.
Hope to God Derry comes back in some form, and comes back soon.
On a selfish note, a disaster for Galway United if Salthill Devon join the league - 3 teams from Galway, and the possibility (small or otherwise) that there may not be a single team from Cork in the league next season. It would be laughable if it was not so serious
Still obsessed with me after all these years, jesus leave it go man :rolleyes:
Ya ours was a different situation but we were stiil in the sh it, Everyone grasps that they have done wrong but coming on here to gloat when its obviously only genuine Derry fans on this site who at the minute are in the total limbo about where their club from here is hardly helpful
Wasnt gloating just said iut as I seen it as was done to us when we where in the same boat! Reality is harsh face it
davidatrb
07/11/2009, 6:08 PM
They should really clear up Kildares position too. Do they or do they not have to play the playoff?? If they stick with 12 teams in First Division then it looks like Kildare are safe yet again.
Derry City news has obviously grabbed the headlines. You may have missed this post: http://foot.ie/forums/showpost.php?p=1267077&postcount=21.
It doesn't look like Kildare will be saved.
soccerc
07/11/2009, 6:10 PM
If Kildare do go .
Kildare will fulfil tonight's fixture and that'll be it for them. Operating entity will be liquidated
Dillonman
07/11/2009, 6:16 PM
So what exactly is guna happen, are Derry gone for good and a new team is to be set up and start in the a division or is a new team been set up and maybe under an appeal they may be allowed play in the first division next season
higgins
07/11/2009, 6:17 PM
I've read the Kildare rumours.... and the Cork ones... I'll wait until it's official.
If it happens I hope the FAI move to two divisions of 10 teams.
christo
07/11/2009, 6:22 PM
I've read the Kildare rumours.... and the Cork ones... I'll wait until it's official.
If it happens I hope the FAI move to two divisions of 10 teams.
In fairness on Corks side, if they are let in the league will be regarded as a joke for all eternity, it was stupid that they were let in this time around. Kildare I am not too sure about it's all very misterious at such small clubs. There is the thing of Mervue talking of pulling out as well still (or is there) and would Salthill or any of the "a" championship sides want into this shambles either with so much money they can lose
Shiba shame on you for your comments i can think of any other Sligo Rovers fan that would share your view.
Hope to see DCFC in a year or two.
What comments ? That bascially Derry have gone punished for Cheating!
Its tough on the fans I admitt but facts are facts.
Im actually more gutted for the league as its not looking good from one season to the next.
A sad day alright. Great fans and brought something to the league I felt.
As was said, it could have been us last year and there aren't many fans who can say something like this could never happen at their club.
Apart from UCD. Those guys freak me out.
John83
07/11/2009, 6:45 PM
As was said, it could have been us last year and there aren't many fans who can say something like this could never happen at their club.
Apart from UCD. Those guys freak me out.
We're extremely lucky in that we seem to have a structure and mentality at the club that allows us to cut back when we have to. A couple of personnel changes or some terrible luck, and who knows? All I can say is that I like to think we'd be the first people to criticise mismanagement at our own club, but I don't doubt we'd have the same blind spots as everyone else.
Very sad day for Derry City fans and all fans of the league of Ireland if we do not see them back next year.
I cannot see any logic in Derry playing in the A championship - with such a large fan base, good facilities they would be of huge benefit in the 1st division. They would definately challenge for the title and the crowds they bring to away games would add plenty of colour.
cestlavie
07/11/2009, 6:55 PM
Stephen Kenny and some of current board have eventually brought the club to its knees. Shame on them! I really feel sorry for all those DCFC supporters who have backed the club thick and thin through the years, the colour and atmosphere will be missed throughout the league.
From posts on this forum a while back it seems like this kind of practice was common, or at least not unknown. City got caught, that's the difference. People in glasshouses and all that. Gutted, but probably deserved. The league needs tougher regulation as a whole.
Shiba ur an idiot, wait till fai checks over your accounts and sees how cook is able to afford the englisgh players on your books because bet they have 2nd contracts too
A bit childish! Bet they have 2nd contracts to.If they have I think we should be punished accordly too.Dont believe in cheating !
Simple as that! Ye cheated! Has your team taken points for say Shams that may have won them a league title. Or any other team that may have cost them money.For each place in the league the prize money goes up.
Look I sympathy for the fans as they always added somthing to a game but have none what so ever for the club.
galwayjames
07/11/2009, 7:09 PM
johnno get your gun
ArdeeBhoy
07/11/2009, 7:14 PM
Good Luck Derry.
Hope they partially win an appeal and get back into Division One.
And they and all the EL/IL clubs try to learn to live within their means.....even if it means aiming lower.
A bit childish! Bet they have 2nd contracts to.If they have I think we should be punished accordly too.Dont believe in cheating !
Simple as that! Ye cheated! Has your team taken points for say Shams that may have won them a league title. Or any other team that may have cost them money.For each place in the league the prize money goes up.
Look I sympathy for the fans as they always added somthing to a game but have none what so ever for the club.
Shiba not childish as I said earlier this is gona open a WHOLE CAN OF WORMS WITH the Licencin. Derry arent the only club who have broken the rules with having 2nd contracts for their players, but for you to come on here and say Sligo are innocent is an insult, other managers players directors will be biting their finger nails tonight worried that they will now be caught up in this and I can tell you Sligo are one of the teams that some players have 2nd contracts. It was an ex DCFC player who has blowen the whistle on the 2nd contracts for the Club showed evidence to the FAI and Derry were hawled forward on thursday to xplain themselves, with the final decision today, so it wont be the last you hear of it. I condone these 2nd contracts and think the players are well over paid they have to take some responsibility in this as well
From posts on this forum a while back it seems like this kind of practice was common, or at least not unknown. City got caught, that's the difference. People in glasshouses and all that. Gutted, but probably deserved. The league needs tougher regulation as a whole.
I know Ive upset some of ur counterparts but your exactly right! I feel the league are letting things go to far before they decide to act.Like any good organisation memebers need to be Audited regulary!
lowroadrover
07/11/2009, 7:17 PM
Derry City have been thrown out of the league
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1107/derrycity.html
galwayjames
07/11/2009, 7:24 PM
yeah...
brianw82
07/11/2009, 7:26 PM
It was coming, but it's still crap.
I feel sorry for the fans and employees of the club. Those board members should be hounded out off the island.
christo
07/11/2009, 7:28 PM
Can anyone explain exactly what those unofficial contracts entailed or what it was about and why they were offered?
Shiba not childish as I said earlier this is gona open a WHOLE CAN OF WORMS WITH the Licencin. Derry arent the only club who have broken the rules with having 2nd contracts for their players, but for you to come on here and say Sligo are innocent is an insult, other managers players directors will be biting their finger nails tonight worried that they will now be caught up in this and I can tell you Sligo are one of the teams that some players have 2nd contracts. It was an ex DCFC player who has blowen the whistle on the 2nd contracts for the Club showed evidence to the FAI and Derry were hawled forward on thursday to xplain themselves, with the final decision today, so it wont be the last you hear of it. I condone these 2nd contracts and think the players are well over paid they have to take some responsibility in this as well
I have never once said Sligo are innocent.I said that people in Glasshouse's shouldn't throw stone.As I said when we had our problems when were told not punch above our weight and that when begged Cook to come back we were laughed at .Alot of derry fans came on stating these messages.As I said if we are guilty of cheating then we should be punished accordly.I really hope we are and that no other team is found to be doing this as then the league is finished.Im in no doubt that this is a serious Issue and the fallout is going to be serious beyond anything that has gone on before.Look I really hope derry are back playing football sooner rather than later.It does'nt matter who blew the whistle on the club.I also agree bout other teams sh*tn themselves so its going to be a winter of discontent "AGAIN".
galwayjames
07/11/2009, 7:30 PM
Can anyone explain exactly what those unofficial contracts entailed or what it was about and why they were offered?
Not completely sure but I think they were being paid contracts while paying no tax or something
Post from Derry forum:
With a heavy notebook and and even heavier heart Pat McDaid stood in front the reception of the FAI HQ in abbotstown this evening still obviously reeling from the news which he had just received from John Delaney.
Mr McDaid outlined his feelings on what he described as the unfair and unjust way that Derry City Football Club had been treated by the powers that be in the Capital. In what he called a "Kangaroo court" he outlined that he was taken outside at one stage by Fran Gavin and asked to do an under the table deal with him, a deal which Mr McDaid refused to take any part in.
In his statement to the press John Delaney claimed that at a meeting Between the FAI and Derry City fc on Wednesday evening the representatives from Derry City had admitted that there were dual contracts for over 20 players at the club a claim that Derry City Chairman McDaid completely refuted. He claimed that he was present at that meeting and that no such admission ever happened and in fact the only contract that the FAI could bring forward was that of a player who signed for the club in January 2008 but his official contract was signed two weeks later.
Derry City Solicitor Mr Des Doherty then confirmed that he had requested that the FAI produce the minutes from this meeting in Derry to which he was told there were none taken.
When he asked to see the Contract which was the FAI's main piece of evidence he had to wait two hours for the FAI to produce it and when it did arrive it was handed to Mr Doherty along with their ruling. When Mr Doherty produced a copy of an FAI official players contract he showed the FAI representatives section 27 and 28 on the back which stated that this contract over rules any other contact that the player has with the club.
Mr Doherty stated that he along with his clients will be looking into a form of appeal through the courts in this matter as the FAI had claimed that there is no form of appeal of their judgement.
When asked what this step would mean to the clubs now involved in the Playoff games on tuesday night Mr McDaid asked for the clubs involved to look into their conscience before they take to the pitch.
CuanaD
07/11/2009, 7:31 PM
From extratime.ie:
Speaking with a Derry City official after the press conference, he claimed that only one player had been the subject of a second contract, whilst the FAI claimed 20. He also stated that the FAI were "out to get them and had an agenda against Derry City FC". Full interview with the parties involved will be available on the site later.
John83
07/11/2009, 7:33 PM
Post from Derry forum:
What. The. ****. :eek:
It's been a long time since I posted so consider that please...
I think that as a community, League of Ireland fans have to shoulder the fact that there was no real realism in regard to what was going on. I know that as Longford Town supporters the questions started to flow when we hit the fan... That is to say that the majority of supporters asked how this could happen as opposed to where is the money coming from. I suggest it's something which came from all other areas of life.
I feel sorry for Derry City fans today because they got caught out. In one manner or another every club had an opportunity to cheat the system in order to remain competitive. Some in small ways, others in deceitful ways.
As a Town supporter, I maybe obvious but I always hated the way supporters of other clubs who spent time in European competition chastised us for letting the league down. All some cared about was co-efficients. Something tangible to support the pie in the sky notions that this league offered something superior to what it actually is.
What. The. ****. :eek:
TOLD YOU GUYS THIS IS GOIONG TO GET MESSY go on DESSEY DO THE FAI IN AND THE CLOWN DELANEY
lowroadrover
07/11/2009, 7:38 PM
Derry are a huge loss to the league , Big team and great support but its about time the FAI has enforced the rules. Feel sorry for the fans
TOLD YOU GUYS THIS IS GOIONG TO GET MESSY go on DESSEY DO THE FAI IN AND THE CLOWN DELANEY
It Will get dirty ! I think.............the future not so bright for the league Im afraid!
ccfcgirl
07/11/2009, 7:41 PM
This is very harsh indeed on Derry City fans, the league of Ireland wont be the same without them..
Mr_Parker
07/11/2009, 7:42 PM
Derry City have been thrown out of the league
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1107/derrycity.html
Really? :rolleyes:
http://foot.ie/forums/showthread.php?p=1267387#post1267387
Do keep up. :)
There's a 50 odd page thread on this at the very top of this forum
It Will get dirty ! I think.............the future not so bright for the league Im afraid!
Shiba apologise for earlier no offence was meant at you, just annoyed the way our club is run but now also the way the league works. Delaney should go now before he is humiliated even more in the courts by DCFC. Good luck Sligo in the cup final do the North West Proud
Shiba apologise for earlier no offence was meant at you, just annoyed the way our club is run but now also the way the league works. Delaney should go now before he is humiliated even more in the courts by DCFC. Good luck Sligo in the cup final do the North West Proud
No offence taken even do it does seem I was gloating was meant rally upset for the fans of what was a great club but the rest is what I see.
Agree Delaney is a joke! Dont think the fai think anything out.From the cup final been held in 6000 seater stadium,( cant figure out for the life of me who they hoped was in the final,to the running of the league. Other clubs are in a mess and been let roam free.;They have no real interest in the league imo!
Thaks for the good wishes and hope we bring it home too be good for the Northwest!
culloty82
07/11/2009, 8:01 PM
With Kildare reportedly gone and Derry probably heading for the A Championship, will this year's A clubs be up for election to fill the last slot? Salthill-Kildare is probably off at any rate.
With Kildare reportedly gone and Derry probably heading for the A Championship, will this year's A clubs be up for election to fill the last slot? Salthill-Kildare is probably off at any rate.
Can Galway survive another team coming in.Mervue are thinking pulling out.Be great to see a club from a county that doesn't have a team play loi getting a chance.
EAFC_rdfl
07/11/2009, 8:13 PM
some mighty tags on this thread ...
I think the FAI are safe from legal action no matter whether they have a case or not. Wellvan will most likely be liquidated before they ever get near court.
holidaysong
07/11/2009, 8:18 PM
Can Galway survive another team coming in.Mervue are thinking pulling out.Be great to see a club from a county that doesn't have a team play loi getting a chance.
I'm sure Tralee Dynamos would jump at the opportunity to take a First Division spot.
I think the FAI are safe from legal action no matter whether they have a case or not. Wellvan will most likely be liquidated before they ever get near court.
Mr A why would they ask to do an underhand deal ( deal to keep hush about other clubs doing the same ) in exchange for keeping a first division place. I would say it could be Dave Rodgers the player in question whos gone to the FAI having his final say. He left Derry in bad animosity for being accused of thieving, and only played a few ganes for us
Because they really want a Derry team in the league?
Monkey
07/11/2009, 8:30 PM
Shame a big blow for Football in the Northwest here hope to God they back into the LOI or even IL as soon as possible
Dillonman
07/11/2009, 8:32 PM
In all fairness how much longer can the powers at be in the FAI put up with the shambolic work that is coming from Gavin and Delaney, surely there are 2 more competent individuals who could do a better job and not cause so much bloody trouble and not make this country's professional league look like a bloody soap opera!
sligoman
07/11/2009, 8:37 PM
best one is "take yer oil!".That's my one:cool:.
Can Galway survive another team coming in.Mervue are thinking pulling out.Be great to see a club from a county that doesn't have a team play loi getting a chance.
Mervue said 2 weeks ago that they will be playing first division football next season
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