Clare Junior Soccer [Archive] - Page 45

old boy

16/01/2006, 3:58 PM

:D
Foe sheers class, skill and guts theres only one Sean Lyndsay,next Tommy Mcdade a very cute centrfoward,also played cetre half and won Newtowns first league as a midfield general.Dont forget Rocksy for great guts and energy and he did it up till he was about 50!!!Donal Magee Snr was also rock solid and great in the air at centre half even though he wasnt a big man.What a bout Alan Meehan??

would only disagree on one of above ... alan meehan good player
but did not play long enough to mentioned with players above ..

how about steve russell tought tackling full back .. i stiil have a few bruises left even now :D

papa-j

16/01/2006, 4:00 PM

All clubs with players involved were contacted and asked if they wanted to play next Sunday or not. Rineanna were the only team to say they would prefer not to play. All other teams asked to play....

Good call from the Lg to give clubs the choice. Lets give them some credit when its due...

ya fair play. Some teams have munster games on 28th & wont have played
in the last 4 weeks so all league games are welcome.

Prem Rep!

16/01/2006, 4:27 PM

Also good to see that if the weather picks up a bit we may be finished leagues by March instead having to play three times a week in April and May.

Prem Rep!

16/01/2006, 5:16 PM

We weren't contacted either but we are in favour ofplaying Sunday so it wouldn't have mattered.

shelbourne1904

16/01/2006, 5:29 PM

:D

would only disagree on one of above ... alan meehan good player
but did not play long enough to mentioned with players above ..

how about steve russell tought tackling full back .. i stiil have a few bruises left even now :D

Agreed,I tossed for Steve or Alan but Alan played for Munster but you are right Steve was there along time at full back or midfield.One mistake ...how could I forget Brendan(Oscar) Mackell.. the vulture.A gem..........pity we have to look back abit for the best though!!!!!

shelbourne1904

16/01/2006, 5:34 PM

Cousinsyl,
Have you any influence to get the league to publish the Youths and u-17 league table????????????????????

papa-j

16/01/2006, 5:40 PM

Agreed,I tossed for Steve or Alan but Alan played for Munster but you are right Steve was there along time at full back or midfield.One mistake ...how could I forget Brendan(Oscar) Mackell.. the vulture.A gem..........pity we have to look back abit for the best though!!!!!

ah the good old days, when men were men. Before shinguards & when you could pass back to the keeper, when shorts were so tight your legs went numb from the lack of circulation.The old rose tinted glasses, it always happens to those in the twilight of their years:D

CousinSylDolan

17/01/2006, 8:19 AM

Cousinsyl,
Have you any influence to get the league to publish the Youths and u-17 league table????????????????????

It would be done no problem to do it if the results were given to us every week. Also all results so far to date would be needed to catch up to date and get the current lg table....

Is there any way we could get this info.

Prem,
I wonder could Ml. Ly help us out here to get this sorted.... Poor old Shels has been looking for this for ages... It needs to be done though to be fair.

Prem Rep!

17/01/2006, 8:49 AM

[QUOTE=Prem,
I wonder could Ml. Ly help us out here to get this sorted.... Poor old Shels has been looking for this for ages... It needs to be done though to be fair.[/QUOTE]

I'll have a look today, go through all the old reports. Shel's let me know the teams involved in both and I'll set up with the info I have received. Ye can fill the gaps after that.

old boy

17/01/2006, 9:00 AM

Agreed,I tossed for Steve or Alan but Alan played for Munster but you are right Steve was there along time at full back or midfield.One mistake ...how could I forget Brendan(Oscar) Mackell.. the vulture.A gem..........pity we have to look back abit for the best though!!!!!

yes a lot of good players mentioned there a pity as you said have to go back a few years for these players...

of current team probally only davy wall could be added to list above what u think ..:eek:

Spudd

17/01/2006, 9:24 AM

The current newtown teams very young,impossible to pick one or two out of it unless you have supernatural powers and can predict the future.

OpenGoal

17/01/2006, 9:26 AM

old boy

17/01/2006, 9:53 AM

Hacker, Glad to hear it. About time too. Club football should be more important in any case, its what we are playing and training for week in, week out.

tommy, I didnt realise it was in skibereen. Could they not find a neutral ground and play it midweek? I'm all for lads representing their counties but if its going to ruin the league then something has to be done.

CousinSyl, yes, they deserve credit if indeed they did contact the clubs involved for their input, but if they didnt contact ALL clubs involved(see Hackers comment) then it was just a token effort. Its the thought that counts I suppose, lets hope they get it right the next time.

For the Newtown lads, must agree, Sean lindsay is a legend. Tough as nails and a class footballer to boot. As for Rocksy, he was a character alright!! Not sure he was a footballing legend, but I only caught the end of his "career" (35+) . How was he in his younger days??? Never saw Tommy Mc play.

crazy that clubs are expected to release players for oscar traynor the day before league matches... would agree club football would be more important.... cannot understand either why all clubs involved in oscar traynor were not contacted either.. was it a case of only telling the chosen few clubs...
rocksy was apparently a class full back in his really younger days
palyed a copuple of seasons in limerick ( with a good mungret team )
and i may be wrong here he even won a clare sports award ?:confused: :confused:

CousinSylDolan

17/01/2006, 10:05 AM

I'm not arguing that some clubs were asked and some were not. I know Bunratty were asked and said we would play and Rineanna were asked and said they would prefer not to...as they are entitled to.

However I think withdrawing players from the OT team cos of a club game on Sunday will not solve things.... ie. its not going to happen.
If players are withdrawn from OT team the clubs game on Sunday will be called off. You can be sure of that much.

Best of luck to HK and his team Saturday by the way. Not sure where all these negative vibes come from when it comes to OT. I think we should all get behind the team anyway and support them.

old boy

17/01/2006, 10:33 AM

The current newtown teams very young,impossible to pick one or two out of it unless you have supernatural powers and can predict the future.

fair point... but would not agree with very young newtown team

the games i have seen newtown play in a lot of good older players
lindsay / stretton / donnelan / coyle / alford

out of the younger player s .. butler looks a good prospect

hopefully newtown can keep them all for the next few years and start getting more consistent week in week out on the pitch and get back up to contesting the league title ..:p :o

shelbourne1904

17/01/2006, 11:41 AM

I'll have a look today, go through all the old reports. Shel's let me know the teams involved in both and I'll set up with the info I have received. Ye can fill the gaps after that.

I dont have the info thats why Im asking.Michael Lydon has to have all this.All thats missing is to publish it.Every other league table including the 9 schoolboy divisions is in the paper on a regular basis.Why are the 17s and youths ommitted??Baffling!!!!

shelbourne1904

17/01/2006, 11:52 AM

yes a lot of good players mentioned there a pity as you said have to go back a few years for these players...

of current team probally only davy wall could be added to list above what u think ..:eek:

Well I have to say that Jay Stretton was my all time favourite....but at left back!!!And thats hard to say with Glenn Coyle having stared in that position for so long.

And the fact that all of the old boys I mentioned played Oscar Traynor for so long has to stand up as a real measure and not a mist covered glimpse of the past.Someone else thought they were good also.The Oscar Traynor managers who picked them???

old boy

17/01/2006, 12:00 PM

I think yer all forgeting the 1 and only ..............ALEX...wHAT A PLAYER

did not forget just did not even consider alex .. ( what a player is being very kind to him ) but he is the 1 & only :D

OpenGoal

17/01/2006, 12:11 PM

While we are being silly, why not include the one and only Andy O'mahoney too :-)

shelbourne1904

17/01/2006, 12:18 PM

What about Shamey Bracken.He was so bad ,one time the manager, Red Austin, had only 11 players and picked him as 12th man.This is a fact!!!!!

old boy

17/01/2006, 12:33 PM

What about Shamey Bracken.He was so bad ,one time the manager, Red Austin, had only 11 players and picked him as 12th man.This is a fact!!!!!

jesus he must have been bad...

anybody else got any stories of bad signings / players
i'd say every club must have signed this one the player who arrives in town & comes to training telling everybody he played senior league in roscomon / offaly / aul dublin and shows his lack of talent on pitch .. :D

Prem Rep!

17/01/2006, 1:37 PM

I dont have the info thats why Im asking.Michael Lydon has to have all this.All thats missing is to publish it.Every other league table including the 9 schoolboy divisions is in the paper on a regular basis.Why are the 17s and youths ommitted??Baffling!!!!

Not too baffling Shel, I'm guessing that these details are taken directly from a2z, youths and 17's only leagues not updated there so that would make sense. As I said earlier I will try to get updated as soon as possible. Just haven't had a chance to do it.

loose cannon

17/01/2006, 2:01 PM

Yeah i remember a player coming down to olympic, having told a co-worker that he had played for luton youths team only to be let go after he turned eighteen. This guy turned out to be the second worst player i ever saw. That was the year Olympic got one point in the premier.

OpenGoal

17/01/2006, 2:09 PM

And the worst???? :-)

First

17/01/2006, 3:03 PM

old boy

17/01/2006, 3:09 PM

Should there not be a new thread set up just for the Newtown boys.;)

c'mon so first change the subject then give everbody something else to talk about :confused: :eek:

shelbourne1904

17/01/2006, 3:36 PM

jesus he must have been bad...

anybody else got any stories of bad signings / players
i'd say every club must have signed this one the player who arrives in town & comes to training telling everybody he played senior league in roscomon / offaly / aul dublin and shows his lack of talent on pitch .. :D

20 years ago there was a bar man in the Knights who said he could play and had played for Crystal Palace youths.He played half a match for Newtown but said he had to come off at half time saying he wasnt feeling well.He went away there and then but we found out afterwards he had a mild heart attack!!No one can remember his name but he is forever remembered as Crystal Palace!

Another beaut was Lenny the Lion from Laoise.Looked magic in training and nutmegged afew guys.When he finally got a game he was taken off before half because he was so bad and was never seen again.

papa-j

17/01/2006, 3:37 PM

Newtown Had A Fella Playing For Them About 4 Or 5 Years Back...
Same Year That Newtown Got Relegated...he Couldn't Get On The Newtown B Team But Somehow He Got To Play For The A Team...maybe Tom Mcdade Would Remember His Name As He Gave Him A Jersey To Play Or Even Papa-j Would Know Him As I Think He Tried To Do A Cantona Kung Fu Kick On Him even tough they were on the same team....he Was Probably The Worst Player I Have Ever Seen In A Newtown Jersey

Trying to forget that season...Stephen Lynch you are talking about. Hes since went on to represent Ireland in the biathlon or triathalon. He was not related to a footballer...the best kick he had that year was the one he tried on me! But I've seen worse, Newtown have had some wonderfully talentless goalkeepers over the years.......

shelbourne1904

17/01/2006, 3:39 PM

Not too baffling Shel, I'm guessing that these details are taken directly from a2z, youths and 17's only leagues not updated there so that would make sense. As I said earlier I will try to get updated as soon as possible. Just haven't had a chance to do it.

I didnt mean to criticise this site what I meant was why hadnt the league published the tables!!:ball:

allrounder

17/01/2006, 4:00 PM

I didnt mean to criticise this site what I meant was why hadnt the league published the tables!!:ball:

if any of yee have u-17 or youths results so far put them in so league tables can be updated.

Cratloe youths results so far

St Pats (h) won 2-1
Bridge Utd (a) won 1-0
St Pats (a) won 2-1
Moher (a) drew 1-1

CousinSylDolan

17/01/2006, 5:34 PM

[QUOTE=CousinSylDolan] have u inside information that the games will be called off if players dont travel..

I have no inside information... I was making the point that if players are withdrawn from the county panel by clubs then HK and the Clare Lg will not sit back and accept it.
CL chairman has stated before that any player that refuses to play for the county team will be at risk of being suspended by the lg and not eligible to play for his club games...

I was told Sunday by the Lg that every club with players on the panel was contacted and asked if they wanted to play or not... How true this is I dont know.

I can totally see the point of any club not wanting to play the day after an 8 hour round trip and a game + a session if they win I presume.

We at Bunratty were asked would we like a game and said yes.... We have 1 player on the panel who it looks like will not start. We have had no game since mid December so why not. Rineanna said no game which they are totally entitled to say... 2 players involved who will play 90 mins.

Whats the opinion of Oly, Newmarket, Bridge Utd, Newtown????
Do ye intend withdrawing players or asking for the Sunday game off????

Spudd

17/01/2006, 6:25 PM

Heard today that bridge utd are going to use the death of some bridge native that got killed in the states a day or two ago as an excuse to call it off??
i dont know how true that is or not...

papa-j

18/01/2006, 9:34 AM

Whats the opinion of Oly, Newmarket, Bridge Utd, Newtown????
Do ye intend withdrawing players or asking for the Sunday game off????[/QUOTE]

At Newtown its catch 22. We'll have Davy Wall playing Sat who we obviously want in our team Sunday & normally we would object to this scenario but on the other hand we are away in Nenagh the following Sunday in the MJC & need a game for the benefit of the other players.
If pitches are playable we will want to play.

Prem Rep!

18/01/2006, 9:53 AM

Heard today that bridge utd are going to use the death of some bridge native that got killed in the states a day or two ago as an excuse to call it off??
i dont know how true that is or not...

Hey Spudd, have a bit of respect would you? The deceased man you speak of was a Bridge player for 10 years before he left for the states plus the Kelly and Murphy families have had much involvement in the club through the years. I don't know what you do at your club but in the Bridge we like to honour past members with a guard of honour. Funeral will not be on until the weekend but at the moment we believe this will be Friday and Saturday so it will not interfere with the game on Sunday.

We cannot wait for Sunday and would want to play whether we had OT involvement or not but until funeral arrangements are confirmed we will not know. So no, it's not an excuse and maybe you should get your facts straight before you suggest we would USE somebody's misfortune to get games postponed.

First

18/01/2006, 10:15 AM

Hey Spudd, have a bit of respect would you? The deceased man you speak of was a Bridge player for 10 years before he left for the states plus the Kelly and Murphy families have had much involvement in the club through the years. I don't know what you do at your club but in the Bridge we like to honour past members with a guard of honour. Funeral will not be on until the weekend but at the moment we believe this will be Friday and Saturday so it will not interfere with the game on Sunday.

We cannot wait for Sunday and would want to play whether we had OT involvement or not but until funeral arrangements are confirmed we will not know. So no, it's not an excuse and maybe you should get your facts straight before you suggest we would USE somebody's misfortune to get games postponed.

Well said Prem Rep, Spudd put brain in gear before posting :(

Clifford

18/01/2006, 10:51 AM

OK I stand corrrected,must be alzheimers...but I still remember him leaving the winger to go inside and the ball played out to the winger who scored.Was it the same guy (outside left) who scored the penno also???

i think the wingers name was o'riordian and the guy that scored the pen was no.6 balding fellow with a tash kieran flynn. (9 mins second half)
cherry midfielder chested ball outside in semi circle played it over top. mannix running across tried to deal with it and it bounced over him. winger stole it hit it at jp who got a touch, under his body and dribbled in.

Clifford

18/01/2006, 10:53 AM

would we be talking red & white centre forward (b.C) if so would back up clifford on quote " tried to mark " :ball: :ball:

et tu bruti....
same team different initials. (k.c) different class.

papa-j

18/01/2006, 11:45 AM

Hey Spudd, have a bit of respect would you? The deceased man you speak of was a Bridge player for 10 years before he left for the states plus the Kelly and Murphy families have had much involvement in the club through the years. I don't know what you do at your club but in the Bridge we like to honour past members with a guard of honour. Funeral will not be on until the weekend but at the moment we believe this will be Friday and Saturday so it will not interfere with the game on Sunday.

We cannot wait for Sunday and would want to play whether we had OT involvement or not but until funeral arrangements are confirmed we will not know. So no, it's not an excuse and maybe you should get your facts straight before you suggest we would USE somebody's misfortune to get games postponed.

Prem rep Spudd doesn't speak for our club. His comments are well out of order. Our sympathies go to the families involved.

the 12 th man

18/01/2006, 11:51 AM

. Our sympathies go to the families involved.

That goes for most of us on here.Spudd,show a bit of respect for the Relatives & Friends of the bereaved.

plasticpitch

18/01/2006, 12:11 PM

[QUOTE=CousinSylDolan]
Has nothing to do with the club.These players are refusing to play OT unless games are off sunday.Fair play to them at least they have the balls to do this.No other league in the country would treat their players like this.A joke of a league.Oh nearly forgot i hear bunratty also said they didnt want to play sunday.

Clare league HAHAHA.... can the committee actually be taken seriously after putting matches for lads representing their county the day after a game??
just remember that Anthony Daly threatened to resign from hurling if any club matches were played while clare were still in the all ireland. it just goes to show that they(clare league committee) haven't a clue... and Jim Madden i know you read this thread from time to time... you should resign if games go ahead cause you obviously don't know what you are doing!!!:mad:

CousinSylDolan

18/01/2006, 12:46 PM

Oh nearly forgot i hear bunratty also said they didnt want to play sunday.

Totally incorrect.... Where did you hear this???????? I'd like to know.

State facts please and not made up stuff. You are obviously trying to cause trouble on here...:cool: :cool: :cool:

CousinSylDolan

18/01/2006, 12:49 PM

Clare league HAHAHA.... can the committee actually be taken seriously....and Jim Madden i know you read this thread from time to time... you should resign if games go ahead cause you obviously don't know what you are doing!!!:mad:

Bit below the belt here I feel and out of order....:eek: :eek:

The CL are doing their best and voluntarily.... Could I suggest you withdraw these comments...

So how many will the OT's have training tonight then if a few players are refusing to play Saturday....

Spudd

18/01/2006, 1:14 PM

our club.
That newtown or shannon town your on about then jay?:rolleyes:

Prem Rep!

18/01/2006, 1:48 PM

Prem rep Spudd doesn't speak for our club. His comments are well out of order. Our sympathies go to the families involved.

Enough said, I'm sure Spudd gets the message.

old boy

18/01/2006, 2:22 PM

et tu bruti....
same team different initials. (k.c) different class.

might as well mention the 3 now bernard collins / kieran collins / noel collins all class players .. :D :D

old boy

18/01/2006, 2:27 PM

[QUOTE=hacker]

I have no inside information... I was making the point that if players are withdrawn from the county panel by clubs then HK and the Clare Lg will not sit back and accept it.
CL chairman has stated before that any player that refuses to play for the county team will be at risk of being suspended by the lg and not eligible to play for his club games...

I was told Sunday by the Lg that every club with players on the panel was contacted and asked if they wanted to play or not... How true this is I dont know.

I can totally see the point of any club not wanting to play the day after an 8 hour round trip and a game + a session if they win I presume.

We at Bunratty were asked would we like a game and said yes.... We have 1 player on the panel who it looks like will not start. We have had no game since mid December so why not. Rineanna said no game which they are totally entitled to say... 2 players involved who will play 90 mins.

Whats the opinion of Oly, Newmarket, Bridge Utd, Newtown????
Do ye intend withdrawing players or asking for the Sunday game off????

suppose easy way out for players not wanting to play oscar traynor is to just say unfortunatly they have to work saturday ...
should solve a few problems .. cannot see league suspending anybody for having to go into work on a saturday :p :p

old boy

18/01/2006, 2:42 PM

That newtown or shannon town your on about then jay?:rolleyes:

jesus ,,, spudd do you love annoying everbody :mad: :p

Clifford

18/01/2006, 2:46 PM

[QUOTE=CousinSylDolan]

suppose easy way out for players not wanting to play oscar traynor is to just say unfortunatly they have to work saturday ...
should solve a few problems .. cannot see league suspending anybody for having to go into work on a saturday :p :p

lads do you really think that traynor lads would train all that time etc and not bother turn up please common sense as well lads. we complain when we don't get games we complain when we do. i don't think cl can win with what ever they do. credit when its due, it was a great idea to ask clubs if they wanted a game. i know avenue asked for a game, even with 3 on squad. (thats what your panel is for) your given option. simple yes or no (if a club wasn't contacted then they should have the choice not to play). all it is is a simple phone call and i am sure clare league would sort it out.

papa-j

18/01/2006, 2:59 PM

That newtown or shannon town your on about then jay?:rolleyes:

I'm touched, did you miss me that much then ;)

CousinSylDolan

18/01/2006, 3:35 PM

[QUOTE=old boy]

lads do you really think that traynor lads would train all that time etc and not bother turn up please common sense as well lads. we complain when we don't get games we complain when we do. i don't think cl can win with what ever they do. credit when its due, it was a great idea to ask clubs if they wanted a game. i know avenue asked for a game, even with 3 on squad. (thats what your panel is for) your given option. simple yes or no (if a club wasn't contacted then they should have the choice not to play). all it is is a simple phone call and i am sure clare league would sort it out.

At last.... Great to hear someone talking some sense.... Totally agree....

Its a shame some people want to cut down the Cl/OT at every opportunity. They deserve credit for giving clubs with players involved in the OT a choice this weekend...