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Charlie Darwin
08/04/2010, 1:12 AM
Yeah, I'm not blaming him, he just looked a long way off the pace.
yapster
08/04/2010, 10:59 PM
I can't understand why Ferguson played him at all, an unfit O'Shea is even more a liability than a fit O'Shea.
Razors left peg
08/04/2010, 11:07 PM
I came across a saying recently that I must put into use.... never argue with idiots, they will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience
yapster
09/04/2010, 1:34 AM
O'Shea I'm afraid will never fulfill his potential as a footballer at this stage. I think he doesn't have the hardness that is required in good players.
Predator
09/04/2010, 1:37 AM
O'Shea I'm afraid will never fulfill his potential as a footballer at this stage. I think he doesn't have the hardness that is required in good players.
Well, he's made a good career for himself at one of the world's top clubs and has proven to be an important player for us. Fair play John O'!
DannyInvincible
09/04/2010, 1:52 AM
O'Shea I'm afraid will never fulfill his potential as a footballer at this stage. I think he doesn't have the hardness that is required in good players.

What heights would he have needed to have reached by this point for you to consider him as having fulfilled his potential? I thought last season, with pretty-much a permanent first-team place in the United team and working with Trap on the international stage, was a defining or coming-of-age season for O'Shea. I admit, he was someone I had always doubted previously, maybe somewhat harshly at times, but he proved me wrong last season and now, rather than harbour anxiety and apprehension when I see him lining out for Ireland, I actually feel more secure with him in the starting line-up. Since when did being a hard man make a good player?
Charlie Darwin
09/04/2010, 1:55 AM
John O'Shea isn't a patch on Messi.
yapster
09/04/2010, 2:01 AM
What heights would he have needed to have reached by this point for you to consider him as having fulfilled his potential? I thought last season, with pretty-much a permanent first-team place in the United team and working with Trap on the international stage, was a defining or coming-of-age season for O'Shea. I admit, he was someone I had always doubted previously, maybe somewhat harshly at times, but he proved me wrong last season and now, rather than harbour anxiety and apprehension when I see him lining out for Ireland, I actually feel more secure with him in the starting line-up. Since when did being a hard man make a good player?


I just think he lacks a certain toughness in him thats all. Yes he had his best season last year but he still is a way off the player he should be.
DannyInvincible
09/04/2010, 2:06 AM
I just think he lacks a certain toughness in him thats all. Yes he had his best season last year but he still is a way off the player he should be.

Which is where?
Razors left peg
09/04/2010, 8:04 PM
Which is where?

He should at this stage of his career be a regular for his club, winning leagues and european cups and be a vital player for his national team........ oh wait
yapster
09/04/2010, 8:41 PM
He should at this stage of his career be a regular for his club, winning leagues and european cups and be a vital player for his national team........ oh wait



A vital player in one of the worst Irish squads ever.. A glorified sub at United for years.
SkStu
09/04/2010, 8:49 PM
just not true.
EastTerracer
09/04/2010, 10:04 PM
just not true.

surely that doesn't surprise you. The WUM has a history of playing loose with the truth.
irishfan86
09/04/2010, 11:12 PM
A vital player in one of the worst Irish squads ever.. A glorified sub at United for years.

I'm not sure if it was last year's title winning season, or the season before that, but John O'Shea played more minutes than any other United player during one of those title winning seasons.

You're a joke.
SkStu
09/04/2010, 11:19 PM
surely that doesn't surprise you. The WUM has a history of playing loose with the truth.

whats surprised me really is that he is still allowed to post here despite me reporting the relevant posts.
Acornvilla
09/04/2010, 11:25 PM
i'm sure he has a nice pile of infractions by now.. hopefully he will go away eventually johns a legend
Razors left peg
10/04/2010, 7:02 AM
I'm not sure if it was last year's title winning season, or the season before that, but John O'Shea played more minutes than any other United player during one of those title winning seasons.

You're a joke.

I think it was last season.As far as I know only Ronaldo started more games that season. United have missed him badly this season with Brown,Neville and Rafael all struggling in the right back position
yapster
11/04/2010, 10:41 PM
I just happen to think that O'Shea is not a composed and accomplised player thats all. He had such potential when he first came on the scene but he lacks confidence in himself I think to fullfill his potential.
ShamrockIreland
13/04/2010, 8:52 AM
whats surprised me really is that he is still allowed to post here despite me reporting the relevant posts.

I run an Irish board, and I act upon the posts,pictures myself.I certainly would not look at someones complaint especially if he had a Bohs(1-0) crest beside his name(That was a joke). Yapster has come over here from my board, but he does love his role. When he gets bored here he'll come home to annoy some more folk up over there. I think though he really does believe what he is saying is true.
livehead1
13/04/2010, 11:43 AM
I just happen to think that O'Shea is not a composed and accomplised player thats all. He had such potential when he first came on the scene but he lacks confidence in himself I think to fullfill his potential.

I've seen him live in the Champions League on a number of occasions; he has always been very comfortable on the ball.
yapster
14/04/2010, 9:25 PM
I run an Irish board, and I act upon the posts,pictures myself.I certainly would not look at someones complaint especially if he had a Bohs(1-0) crest beside his name(That was a joke). Yapster has come over here from my board, but he does love his role. When he gets bored here he'll come home to annoy some more folk up over there. I think though he really does believe what he is saying is true.


You at least know that I have been consistent with my opinion on Keane and O´Shea down the years.
Charlie Darwin
14/04/2010, 10:34 PM
My God, you've been at this for years?
Serb
14/04/2010, 10:35 PM
You at least know that I have been consistent with my opinion on Keane and O´Shea down the years.

Consistently wrong.
yapster
15/04/2010, 7:39 PM
Consistently wrong.



no I'm afraid not son...
Razors left peg
15/04/2010, 8:28 PM
Cant imagine what CF1989 got banned for since it seems to be ok to come on here consistantly with the specific intention to p1ss off people
Acornvilla
15/04/2010, 8:32 PM
he posted penises :)
Razors left peg
15/04/2010, 8:34 PM
he posted penises :)

down with that sort of thing :)
Acornvilla
15/04/2010, 8:42 PM
down with that sort of thing :)

careful now :)
Razors left peg
15/04/2010, 9:01 PM
Haha :)
yapster
16/04/2010, 8:47 PM
We got Father Ted finally over here on BBCAmerica and it is a great show. Why didn't RTE make it rather than C4?
bluesfan
16/04/2010, 9:33 PM
We got Father Ted finally over here on BBCAmerica and it is a great show. Why didn't RTE make it rather than C4?

Don't think it was ever offered to RTE. The two creators had already been living and working in England for a number of years when they came up with it.
Acornvilla
17/04/2010, 1:02 AM
it was originally offered to RTE but they didn't like it so C4 stole in and just as well i think if RTE made it, it wouldn't be as good
Colbert Report
17/04/2010, 3:15 AM
It was originally offered to RTE but they were dead scared of offending the religious right in Ireland so they passed on it. This is stated in the DVD commentary.
bluesfan
17/04/2010, 8:28 AM
Surprised at that, I'd always thought it was an urban legend about it being offered to RTE. Did the DVD commentary explain why they were going to come back to Ireland to make Father Ted? Mathews and Linehan were doing well in England at the time and returning here sounds like a backward career move.
geysir
17/04/2010, 11:20 AM
Don't think it was ever offered to RTE. The two creators had already been living and working in England for a number of years when they came up with it.

It was never rejected by RTE because it was never offered to them. Anything else is urban myth.
It was shown on RTE shortly after ch4 screening.
Colbert Report
17/04/2010, 11:56 AM
I'm not sure, I'll re-watch the DVD commentary and post here once I do, probably some time next week.
Colbert Report
17/04/2010, 11:58 AM
Perhaps I'm mistaken:

from wikipedia:

Contrary to frequent rumours, Mathews and Linehan did not originally pitch the series to the Irish network RTÉ, but rather offered it directly to Hat Trick Productions and Channel 4 in the UK.
Serb
17/04/2010, 12:38 PM
You can ask the man himself on Twitter :)

http://twitter.com/Glinner

Also, O'Shea is on the bench for United today, but sounds like Neville is having a nightmare at right back at the moment.
John83
18/04/2010, 3:36 PM
Surprised at that, I'd always thought it was an urban legend about it being offered to RTE. Did the DVD commentary explain why they were going to come back to Ireland to make Father Ted? Mathews and Linehan were doing well in England at the time and returning here sounds like a backward career move.
I've personally heard Linehan deny it was ever offered to RTÉ. He said they just didn't do that sort of thing; there'd have been no point. Now, maybe the official line has changed at some point, so check out that commentary all the same. If it disagrees, that'd be interesting.
rebelmusic
14/09/2010, 7:46 PM
Neville was crap at the weekend, and brown is fouling every 2 mins tonight, i'd say Josh is pretty much sorted for right back for the season. Defo best of the 3 (i am of course ignoring the little one)
rambler14
14/09/2010, 8:13 PM
Rafael is Man United's best "attacking" full-back. But O'Shea is the better of the other two when it comes to the basics.
rebelmusic
14/09/2010, 8:20 PM
Aye but Fergie always seems to have mixed faith in Rafael. We'll see anyway. I'm assuming Josh is on the bench tonight for a rest
elroy
06/11/2010, 2:27 PM
Playing Centre Midfield against Wolves by the looks of it.
tetsujin1979
15/03/2011, 7:23 PM
Just taken off against Marseille with a suspected hamstring problem :(
Closed Account
15/03/2011, 7:23 PM
Pulled up holding his hamstring, hopefully its not too serious.
Noelys Guitar
15/03/2011, 7:23 PM
Just did his hamstring. Thats him doubtful for the Macedonia game.
boovidge
15/03/2011, 7:25 PM
who will replace him if he's out?
CraftyToePoke
15/03/2011, 7:37 PM
who will replace him if he's out?

McShane in the squad I suppose. Not exactly cavalry charging to the rescue now is it.
tetsujin1979
15/03/2011, 7:40 PM
Promote Towell from the U21s, maybe Stephen O'Halloran or Matt Doherty?
With Kelly and Foley in the squad, we are well covered at right full
Sullivinho
15/03/2011, 7:48 PM
who will replace him if he's out?

Wilson has been playing there for Stoke lately. Foley made his name there but hasn't been given much opportunity by Trap. Beyond that you'd be talking about Kelly and McShane.