LoI in Europe 2024

[RealJohn91]

What an embarrassing result that is

[ger121]

A delusional attitude extends from supporter's of the Irish international team to LOI fans of clubs who haven't troubled the scorers in Europe since christ was a carpenter.

Is it delusional to be expecting Derry to not get beaten 2 nil away to a club from Gibraltar?

[total hoofball]

Ah fkuc Gibraltar teams are not pub league fodder afterall mumble the coefficient fans

At least with this early Derry loss from a Shels point of view any complacency that may have existed towards these teams should be wiped out before kick off

[pineapple stu]

Ah fkuc Gibraltar teams are not pub league fodder afterall mumble the coefficient fans


A delusional attitude extends from supporter's of the Irish international team to LOI fans of clubs who haven't troubled the scorers in Europe since christ was a carpenter.

Have to say, I don't understand either of these comments?

[Buckett]

I didn't know Jesus was a carpenter. His gullible step dad was.
Shelbourne have to win tonight otherwise it's a completely shameful week for Irish football

[sbgawa]

is there anywhere to watch the Shels match? besides Tolka :) thought it might have been on loitv

[pineapple stu]

is there anywhere to watch the Shels match? besides Tolka :) thought it might have been on loitv


We're on here officially:
https://solidsport.com/shelbourefc/games/g/5pbfepyx

Costs about a tenner

[ger121]

is there anywhere to watch the Shels match? besides Tolka :) thought it might have been on loitv

Probably behind the couch at this stage.

[pineapple stu]

Shels score in the first minute

That's more like it!

[sbgawa]

Thanks Stu. Turned on just in time to see Shels score :)

[ger121]

I didn't know Jesus was a carpenter. His gullible step dad was.
Shelbourne have to win tonight otherwise it's a completely shameful week for Irish football

He was no fan of nails.

[Mr A]

He was no fan of nails.

They made him cross yeah

[joey B]

Tidy strike from Coyle for the goal..

[CorribsideSteve]

1-1 now

[ger121]

Jesus Christ. Yeah him again.

[pineapple stu]

Ah here.

If both of them go out to Gibraltar opposition, we may as well wind up the LoI...

[joey B]

I knew as soon as Stuey Byrne said that St Joseph’s reminded him of a LOI team from 20 years ago what was going to happen,Shels have had plenty of possession but haven’t made many chances…

[BonnieShels]

The giddy tension in Tolka was the weirdest 25min I've ever had here or indee at any game of soccer in my leave. Bizarre altogether.

Regardless of their goal we should have the beating of them.

Boydie coming on now for Smith.

Come on SHELS!

[Buckett]

Ah here.

If both of them go out to Gibraltar opposition, we may as well wind up the LoI...

Or rename it the LOL

[sbgawa]

Shels need to score a couple they are better than these

[sbgawa]

Good start , great peno

[BonnieShels]

Phew.

[pineapple stu]

Breidablik (Rovers' conquerors and group stage competitors last year) after throwing a 2-0 lead away in the of ten minutes in North Macedonia, against European debutants and domestic cup winners Tikves.

[ger121]

You can’t beat the early rounds for excitement and some bonkers results.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Shels have been awful

[ger121]

Breidablik (Rovers' conquerors and group stage competitors last year) after throwing a 2-0 lead away in the of ten minutes in North Macedonia, against European debutants and domestic cup winners Tikves.

3-2! Some turnaround.

[TonyD]

I didn't know Jesus was a carpenter.

He was ? I’m pretty sure he didn’t sing on any of their records.

[DCSIL]

Grim result for Derry.

The Northern sides not doing much better, watched Caernafon beat Crusaders and Linfield 2-0 down to Starjnan(sp)

Hopefully Shels hold on

[Acornvilla]

3 wins for Welsh sides so far, seem to always be ranked incredibly lowly but have someone pull out results or go on a run.

[pineapple stu]

Grim result for Derry.

The Northern sides not doing much better, watched Caernafon beat Crusaders and Linfield 2-0 down to Starjnan(sp)

Hopefully Shels hold on

Think they need to be pushing for a third rather than holding on tbh

2-1 will make for a very tricky second leg

[ger121]

Grim result for Derry.

The other Northern sides not doing much better, watched Caernafon beat Crusaders and Linfield 2-0 down to Starjnan(sp)

Hopefully Shels hold on

Corrected that there for you ;-)

[joey B]

Shels settled for the 2-1 from early out and tbf weren’t really troubled,they’ll be happy enough with the win but I suppose it’ll only be known after next week weather it’s a a good result….

[SkStu]

local derby that? Shels (Drumcondra) v Joeys (Fairview)

[Nesta99]

How can Higgins stay on, they are in a title race as much on squad ability as how they are coached and youd have no confidence of them not blowing a gift wrapped league again. Results can go against you in Europe and it may be harsh but it would be the excuse an owner needed to change management. If that sme Derry squad were managed by SK in Europe and many were, would we be looking at the same outcome? I dont think so myself!

Any thinking on LoI fans being deluded on standards just have to look t our ranking relative to teams we are playing, if they are ranked below then they are bad results, if above then it is par for the course and didnt play above our level. We will be dropping to our level over a few years anyway if early round points continue not to be taken.

[ger121]

local derby that? Shels (Drumcondra) v Joeys (Fairview)

Joey 2 - Joeys 1

[Buckett]

Galway Utd will raise the coefficient next year

[pineapple stu]

Bert Kassies has already pushed the button to update the aul coefficients...

We ended last year in 35th, and started this year 33rd (because 2019/20 was a poor year - Cork lost to Niederkorn, Dundalk beat Riga on penalties but were easily beaten by Slovan and Qarabag, Pat's lost to Norrkoping and Rovers had Bradley's only good European result in beating Brann, but they lost to Apollon after extra time then).

We're still 33rd at present - though Kosovo in 32nd have extended the gap out to 0.541 and to be honest I don't see us increasing any this year. This was the year the FAI were targetting the LoI to be 30th in Europe, but with results like this week's, we'll be falling a few places by the end of the summer.

0.375 is our score so far - bettered by eight leagues below us. Still too early to read too much into that though. The second legs will tell more - we'll see if we even get a second round, and the Champions League teams are important as they get multiple rounds (and a much bigger chance at group stage games).

Looking only at this year and last year, we're 41st in the rankings - feels like we should be much worse than that to be honest, but again this year has only just begun.

Belarus are second last in the rankings, amazingly - it's only nine years since BATE Borisov got five points in a Champions League group including Roma, Barcelona and Leverkusen. Today's results see Gibraltar jump ahead of them.

[Acornvilla]

Bert Kassies has already pushed the button to update the aul coefficients...

We ended last year in 35th, and started this year 33rd (because 2019/20 was a poor year - Cork lost to Niederkorn, Dundalk beat Riga on penalties but were easily beaten by Slovan and Qarabag, Pat's lost to Norrkoping and Rovers had Bradley's only good European result in beating Brann, but they lost to Apollon after extra time then).

We're still 33rd at present - though Kosovo in 32nd have extended the gap out to 0.541 and to be honest I don't see us increasing any this year. This was the year the FAI were targetting the LoI to be 30th in Europe, but with results like this week's, we'll be falling a few places by the end of the summer.

0.375 is our score so far - bettered by eight leagues below us. Still too early to read too much into that though. The second legs will tell more - we'll see if we even get a second round, and the Champions League teams are important as they get multiple rounds (and a much bigger chance at group stage games).

Looking only at this year and last year, we're 41st in the rankings - feels like we should be much worse than that to be honest, but again this year has only just begun.

Belarus are second last in the rankings, amazingly - it's only nine years since BATE Borisov got five points in a Champions League group including Roma, Barcelona and Leverkusen. Today's results see Gibraltar jump ahead of them.
2 wins and a draw or 1 win and 2 draws is not beyond the realms of possibility next week tbf, however many teams we get through is another question :D

[pineapple stu]

And even if they get through, how will Derry do against Copenhagen having lost 2-0 in Gibraltar!

There's still Pat's there too of course; no idea how they'll do.

Hypothetically if every country got the same score as last year - and we're already going to be doing well to get that I think - we'd drop to 37th. I'll put that out as an early random prediction as to where we'll end up.

One other result of note tonight was Borac Banja Luka getting a 96th minute winner at home against Egnatia of Albania - losers play the losers of Vikingur/Rovers. The winners play Jagellonia of Poland.

[Jolly Red Giant]

Despite Shelbourne's win - that was two damned poor results against the opposition - these teams are equivalent to tier 8/9 of the English pyramid (that is where some of the better players have played).

[Acornvilla]

And even if they get through, how will Derry do against Copenhagen having lost 2-0 in Gibraltar!

There's still Pat's there too of course; no idea how they'll do.

Hypothetically if every country got the same score as last year - and we're already going to be doing well to get that I think - we'd drop to 37th. I'll put that out as an early random prediction as to where we'll end up.

One other result of note tonight was Borac Banja Luka getting a 96th minute winner at home against Egnatia of Albania - losers play the losers of Vikingur/Rovers. The winners play Jagellonia of Poland.
Oh yeah, I don't expect anyone to get through Round two if they make it except for giving Pat's a shot v Vaduz, aside from Rovers of course, they could be bombed out by round 3 or make the groups, so much comes down to next week and of course the draws once they drop down.

I do think any flavour of Shels win is good, first time back in Europe in forever, and against what I assumed would be by far the better of the two Gibraltar clubs. Absolutely no idea what went on with Derry, I decided to save my tenners this week :D I definitely wouldn't count them out of a home win, couldn't say if they could do enough to bring it to ET thou, maybe Bruno's have improved a lot now that they've been in Europe a few years in a row.

Given what happened last year, I also think the Rovers result should be considered positive conditionally, I think they'll do it at home, but I know understandably many others are not so confident.

[joey B]

What is the potential difference in prize money for Rovers next week between winning and losing if anybody has an idea?

[D24Saint]

And even if they get through, how will Derry do against Copenhagen having lost 2-0 in Gibraltar!

There's still Pat's there too of course; no idea how they'll do.

Hypothetically if every country got the same score as last year - and we're already going to be doing well to get that I think - we'd drop to 37th. I'll put that out as an early random prediction as to where we'll end up.

One other result of note tonight was Borac Banja Luka getting a 96th minute winner at home against Egnatia of Albania - losers play the losers of Vikingur/Rovers. The winners play Jagellonia of Poland.

With our form this season I’d be happy to travel being one goal down in the tie. Hopefully we can be competitive but I don’t expect much.

[BonnieShels]

That was an infuriating game against a horrible team full of gowls.

Absolutely hateful bunch. The antics with the "stolen" throw-in from a fake injury in the second half nearly sent the whole of the stadium into the river.

We were much the better side and Coote and Wood made such a difference late on.

Gannon was completely off the boil for whatever reason and hopefully he'll be back to his usual self next week.

Anyway, we won. That's all we can ask for right now.

[geysir]

3-2! Some turnaround.

Heat - 35C,
the Macedonians were dreadful, but more heat tolerant.

I also watched Linfield v Stjarnan (perhaps I have flagellation tendencies) Linfield were dreadful, the Rory Gallagher song came to mind, "Brute Force and Ignorance". No consolation considering the travails in the LOI, but the Nordie league is stone age.

[Buller]

What is the potential difference in prize money for Rovers next week between winning and losing if anybody has an idea?

Difference of €790,000

[2 Year Contract]

With our form this season I’d be happy to travel being one goal down in the tie. Hopefully we can be competitive but I don’t expect much.

Id tend to agree, I’d take a 1 goal defeat in the first leg to keep the tie alive when travelling over. Having said that, with 1 away win all year it’s an even more unlikely task to overcome

[nr637]

Attendance: 3655 Seating in Richmond Road and Riverside stands only.
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[2 Year Contract]

LOI Clubs in Europe 2024

Stadium Seating Capacity

Shels, Tolka Park 4,300
St. Pats, Richmond Park 2,800
Derry, Brandywell Stadium 3,300
Shamrocks, Tallaght Stadium 10,000

:)


Tolka having 4,300 seats minus the terracing sounds wrong


Hi 2 Year Contract,

The The Richmond Road Stand or Main Stand has a capacity of over 1,800 seats while the opposite Riverside Stand has approximately 2,500 seating capacity since damaged seating has been repaired.
Total seating capacity so is approximately 4,300 at present.

Hope this helps and explains. :rolleyes:


Attendance: 3655 Seating in Richmond Road and Riverside stands only.
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Thanks to extratime.com for helping and explaining my point to you ":rolleyes:"

[Real ale Madrid]

That was an infuriating game against a horrible team full of gowls.

Absolutely hateful bunch. The antics with the "stolen" throw-in from a fake injury in the second half nearly sent the whole of the stadium into the river.

We were much the better side and Coote and Wood made such a difference late on.

Gannon was completely off the boil for whatever reason and hopefully he'll be back to his usual self next week.

Anyway, we won. That's all we can ask for right now.

Good to see you posting Bonnie - hope you are well!