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pateen
15/08/2024, 4:26 PM
On here for a tenner
Solid sports
Sabah have been on top and then....a St Pats player runs through on goal and the last man for Sabah brings him down illegally and gets sent off.
For the 2nd game in a row Sabah have only 10 men!
Livescore says Sabah had their CB sent off after 27 minutes. Anyone watching the game able to say what happened? Bad tackle or a cynical one?
Pat's in such a commanding position now to qualify for the playoff. I think they'll be the first Irish team to reach that round via the league path.
Hope they actually win the game because the co-efficient could do with the 0.25 points.
D24Saint
15/08/2024, 4:33 PM
Livescore says Sabah had their CB sent off after 27 minutes. Anyone watching the game able to say what happened? Bad tackle or a cynical one?
Pat's in such a commanding position now to qualify for the playoff. I think they'll be the first Irish team to reach that round via the league path.
Hope they actually win the game because the co-efficient could do with the 0.25 points.
Palmer broke free and was taken down. A clear red. The official stream is awful unfortunately.
pineapple stu
15/08/2024, 4:34 PM
Hope they actually win the game because the co-efficient could do with the 0.25 points.
I'd say the benefit of the seeding from getting through three rounds would be of more benefit tbh - would mean they'd avoid the top top teams (like Zurich and Copenhagen) for longer the next couple of seasons
LoI teams can absolutely screw this up still, but certainly makes it interesting
pateen
15/08/2024, 4:44 PM
Palmer broke free and was taken down. A clear red. The official stream is awful unfortunately.
A red card all day long. Pats doing well.
Kiki Balboa
15/08/2024, 4:44 PM
The game is on Youtube if it wasnt shared already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQAwb0h8hcM
ger121
15/08/2024, 4:48 PM
Not watching the match but from UEFA it looks like they have not had a sniff.
Jack B
15/08/2024, 4:58 PM
Think the interval has come at a good time for us, looked like after a fairly even start they were caught up in not knowing how to manage the tie given they're a goal up but also now a man in this game.
geysir
15/08/2024, 4:59 PM
Palmer broke free and was taken down. A clear red. The official stream is awful unfortunately.
The unofficial stream in all probability is not much better. I thought the tackle was a yellow card at most, but I didn't notice that he was clean through. How far out from goal was he when he was taken out?
1 ****ING 0 TO ST PATS!!!!
2-0 on agg!
pineapple stu
15/08/2024, 5:06 PM
1-0 Pat's; that's surely the tie 90% in the bag?
Keep it tight against ten men for 40 minutes.
Their first shot of the game I think
nigel-harps1954
15/08/2024, 5:06 PM
Pats 1-0 up. Definitely needed that one. Great ball by Mulraney
It was an OG by the Sabah defender after being put under pressure by Elbouzedi and Melia!
joey B
15/08/2024, 5:07 PM
Fantastic delivery Mulreanny
sbgawa
15/08/2024, 5:19 PM
Brilliant stuff from Pats. Surely through now.
placid casual
15/08/2024, 5:22 PM
The game is on Youtube if it wasnt shared already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQAwb0h8hcM
Cheers for the link.
That commentator is certainly excitable once the ball is anyone near the pats box...
pineapple stu
15/08/2024, 5:28 PM
Pyunik take the lead against Ordabasy - 2-0 on aggregate notes - so it's looking like Armenia for the winners.
May as well hang around where they are I guess. Lot of miles about to be racked up
ger121
15/08/2024, 5:32 PM
Pyunik take the lead against Ordabasy - 2-0 on aggregate notes - so it's looking like Armenia for the winners.
May as well hang around where they are I guess. Lot of miles about to be racked up
That would be Rovers opponents if they lose to Celje. I nearly mixed them up myself!
pineapple stu
15/08/2024, 5:39 PM
Oops! You're right.
Istanbulspor about to kick off against Iberia 1999 of Georgia, 1-0 from the first leg.
Bit of a crappy Turkish side to get; I think they're the UCD of Turkey in crowd terms. So no mental Turkish atmosphere I'd say
Calcio Jack
15/08/2024, 5:42 PM
That would be Rovers opponents if they lose to Celje. I nearly mixed them up myself!
Correct…. But may be subject to an appeal
pateen
15/08/2024, 5:52 PM
Brilliant. Fanstic from Pats.
Delighted for Stephen Kenny
ger121
15/08/2024, 5:52 PM
That is a great win over 2 legs for a LOI side. Best 2 legged tie result since Rovers beat Brann?
texidub
15/08/2024, 5:56 PM
Great win. The manner of it was really impressive, even accounting for the sending off. Twas no fluke!
patsdad
15/08/2024, 5:57 PM
Great to hear the 12 Pats supporters coming over loud and clear at the end there. Pats were comfortably the better team even before the red card. Certainly were closer to scoring a second than Sabah were to getting one.
Jack B
15/08/2024, 5:59 PM
Combination of great stuff from Pats and hilariously poor from Sabah across both ties, their own fault mind. Absolutely buzzing with that, Elbouzedi signing and Palmer getting up to speed have been game changers in Europe. First time I've ever kept such a keen eye on a game between Turkish and Georgian teams!
pineapple stu
15/08/2024, 6:00 PM
That is a great win over 2 legs for a LOI side. Best 2 legged tie result since Rovers beat Brann?
This Stephen Kenny lad is good. Next Ireland manager maybe? :p
ger121
15/08/2024, 6:01 PM
Vikingur through. Do they play the Andorran side now? Crazy if they make groups and Rovers do not.
The rule to take the higher Co-efficient from the sides in Con Q3 vs. Lower Co-efficient from those sides in the higher competition; EL is a stupid rule from UEFA and penalises sides who win a round in CL.
CorribsideSteve
15/08/2024, 6:03 PM
Fantastic stuff from St Pats. Kenny two games away from guiding two separate LOI teams to European group stage football.
texidub
15/08/2024, 6:04 PM
Happy for him too. Kenny obviously has something - every LOI success in Europe is a psychological giant killing and he seems to have a knack.
sbgawa
15/08/2024, 6:05 PM
Jaysus if Rovers turn it around tonight the co efficient is in for some boost this year
kksaints
15/08/2024, 6:07 PM
A sweet,sweet result!!! Palmer, Mulraney, and Elbouzedi have been immense in Europe.
patsdad
15/08/2024, 6:10 PM
So Pats have 3 wins and a draw. Can any expert clarify what that does for their club coefficient and for the LOI overall one?
D24Saint
15/08/2024, 6:21 PM
Happy for him too. Kenny obviously has something - every LOI success in Europe is a psychological giant killing and he seems to have a knack.
Mulraney commented on his man management. He said he never worked with a coach that put more into his players. I’d say that belief makes a huge difference to a player’s confidence.
pineapple stu
15/08/2024, 6:26 PM
So Pats have 3 wins and a draw. Can any expert clarify what that does for their club coefficient and for the LOI overall one?
For the LoI, it's 3.5 / 4 = 0.875
For Pat's, if they get knocked out next round, they'd get 2.5 points (same as the sides who got knocked out at the same stage last year). The club coefficient is the lower of the national one (currently 2.275 - the average national coefficient over the past five years) or the club one, based on the rounds reached in the past five years - so for Pat's that'd increase to 5.500. This is the stat which decides which teams are seeded in a round and which aren't.
Because seedings are done based on club coefficients, you can have a regular qualifier from a crap country (like Gibraltar) being seeded over a new qualifier from a half-decent country, and so the seedings can look a bit wonky.
patsdad
15/08/2024, 6:27 PM
For the LoI, it's 3.5 / 4 = 0.875
For Pat's, if they get knocked out next round, they'd get 2.5 points (same as the sides who got knocked out at the same stage last year). The club coefficient is the lower of the national one (currently 2.275 - the average national coefficient over the past five years) or the club one, based on the rounds reached in the past five years - so for Pat's that'd increase to 5.500. This is the stat which decides which teams are seeded in a round and which aren't.
Because seedings are done based on club coefficients, you can have a regular qualifier from a crap country (like Gibraltar) being seeded over a new qualifier from a half-decent country, and so the seedings can look a bit wonky.
Great. Thanks
geysir
15/08/2024, 6:31 PM
Vikingur through. Do they play the Andorran side now? Crazy if they make groups and Rovers do not.
The rule to take the higher Co-efficient from the sides in Con Q3 vs. Lower Co-efficient from those sides in the higher competition; EL is a stupid rule from UEFA and penalises sides who win a round in CL.
yes it's the Andorra team next, passers by can hear the sound of the chickens being counted in the Vikingur boardroom. A good time for all the Atlantic Islands.
The Conference seeding is a curious one. On another note I remember one of the reasons given by Uefa for the grouping of teams for the qualifier draws, was to cut out the long journeys :confused:
legendz
15/08/2024, 7:04 PM
Who were the last non-champions to make the playoff round or the equivalent?
ger121
15/08/2024, 7:05 PM
Istanbul it will be. 2 nil on the night and now 3-0 on agg.
ger121
15/08/2024, 7:07 PM
Who were the last non-champions to make the playoff round or the equivalent?
Was it Pat’s in the old format before EL Group stages became a thing?
D24Saint
15/08/2024, 7:10 PM
Was it Pat’s in the old format before EL Group stages became a thing?
We made the 1st round in the uefa cup (arm patches and all) in 2008 & Europa league playoff round in 2009.
pineapple stu
15/08/2024, 7:22 PM
I see Zira of Azerbaijan beat Osijek on penalties this evening. 2-1 the score in the shootout. I don't remember ever seeing that before.
Both sides scored their second; Zira also scored their fifth. All the rest missed (though Zira scored from the spot in the game)
Fantastic Result for Pats
Now go on and make it to the group stages
ger121
15/08/2024, 7:27 PM
I see Zira of Azerbaijan beat Osijek on penalties this evening. 2-1 the score in the shootout. I don't remember ever seeing that before.
Both sides scored their second; Zira also scored their fifth. All the rest missed (though Zira scored from the spot in the game)
I was following it on UEFA. Not so easy to win in Azerbaijan.
pineapple stu
15/08/2024, 7:33 PM
I was following it on UEFA.
I would expect nothing less from you ger! :D
texidub
15/08/2024, 7:37 PM
has to be a peno?
legendz
15/08/2024, 7:37 PM
Istanbul it will be. 2 nil on the night and now 3-0 on agg.
?stanbul Ba?ak?ehir won their Conference group last year ahead of Fiorentina. Tough draw but to be expected in that round.
CorribsideSteve
15/08/2024, 7:40 PM
Good stuff there. A deserved penalty for Rovers. Glad the ref went to look at it, after it initially looked to me like he wanted Greene to get up and get on with the game. Smashed penalty. Back in it now.
ger121
15/08/2024, 7:41 PM
I would expect nothing less from you ger! :D
:shame:
joey B
15/08/2024, 7:41 PM
Greene lucky he didn’t get a bad injury there,keeper absolutely shocking…
And it’s 2 nil now
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