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Acornvilla
01/08/2024, 6:10 PM
Only one winner in that time :p

That should settle them. Elbouzedi with it - on his debut?
He started the 1st leg as well. Possibly came on v Derry if I'm not mistaken.

pineapple stu
01/08/2024, 6:16 PM
They do. Think there will be only winner in this tie now.
And Sabah score. 6-5 up now

Acornvilla
01/08/2024, 6:18 PM
From a Pat's perspective, very promising that both teams are capable of throwing goals away, and the extra time won't be any harm :D

ger121
01/08/2024, 6:27 PM
From a Pat's perspective, very promising that both teams are capable of throwing goals away, and the extra time won't be any harm :D

Pat’s ain’t home and hosed yet but I get your point.
I actually watched a 12 minute highlight package of the 1st leg. Not sure how it finished. 0-3 to Sabah. Was nil all till 60 odd minute.
Are the Israeli sides playing home games in neutral venues, because it was a very small ground and nobody at it.

pineapple stu
01/08/2024, 6:31 PM
Yeah, it was in Budapest. They wouldn't be in extra time if they'd had a home leg in Israel I think. (And they shouldn't be in the competition to begin with of course, but that's a different matter)

You could argue a 6-5 means both sides know where the net is, which could be trouble for dodgy LoI defences in Europe :p Though broadly speaking I do agree neither side looks terrifying. Weaker than Zurich and Copenhagen I'd say.

6-6 now actually - penalties looming it seems. Though still 7 minutes to go.

Acornvilla
01/08/2024, 6:32 PM
Pat’s ain’t home and hosed yet but I get your point.
I actually watched a 12 minute highlight package of the 1st leg. Not sure how it finished. 0-3 to Sabah. Was nil all till 60 odd minute.
Are the Israeli sides playing home games in neutral venues, because it was a very small ground and nobody at it.

I've been saying Pat's would win this tie for weeks, I can't back down now :D

ger121
01/08/2024, 6:36 PM
Yeah, it was in Budapest. They wouldn't be in extra time if they'd had a home leg in Israel I think. (And they shouldn't be in the competition to begin with of course, but that's a different matter)

You could argue a 6-5 means both sides know where the net is, which could be trouble for dodgy LoI defences in Europe :p Though broadly speaking I do agree neither side looks terrifying. Weaker than Zurich and Copenhagen I'd say.

6-6 now actually - penalties looming it seems. Though still 7 minutes to go.

Sabah are not that great I think. The 1st leg could have finished anything. Maccabi so wasteful.

Philosophizer
01/08/2024, 6:39 PM
Anang really showed his quality there. Catches a decent drive from 20 yards like it’s nothing, then plays a 70 yard ball to put Mulroney through for a shot that Vaduz saved. Quality keeper.

joey B
01/08/2024, 6:40 PM
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Got to respect it!!!

pineapple stu
01/08/2024, 6:54 PM
Just the 11-0 over the two legs...

Sabah miss first in the shoot-out in Azerbaijan. 2-1 Maccabi after two kicks each.

Edit - Maccabi miss back; 2-2 after three kicks each now

Sabah through 3-2 on penalties. Maccabi missed their last three kicks, with Pierrot - who scored twice in the game - missing the last one.

Not sure which side would have been better tbh. I think Sabah are weaker but the trip to Azerbaijan is awkward whereas playing Maccabi in a neutral venue would have been a help.

Still, it is what it is. Pat's not through yet of course.

sbgawa
01/08/2024, 6:58 PM
Hard luck on maccabi considering they couldn't l
Play there home leg at home

Acornvilla
01/08/2024, 6:59 PM
I was a bit worried Sabah were unexpectedly very good given the first leg, so a bit of a relief that they can get hammered at home, still wouldn't make Pat's favourites but if they get there they have a chance, as 3rd round draws go it's decent, like Derry getting Tobol last year I suppose.

Acornvilla
01/08/2024, 7:05 PM
2-1 Vaduz, I appreciate their stadium announcer giving it socks and encouraging the crowd to boo Pat's :D

Philosophizer
01/08/2024, 7:06 PM
Goal for Vaduz and it sets up a very nervy last 15. Wtf were Pats at there? They were in no trouble at all for ages then just allow a lad to stroll across the box and roll one in. Did it get a deflection or did Anang just fall in the wrong direction? I probably cursed him with my earlier praise…

Philosophizer
01/08/2024, 7:07 PM
2-1 Vaduz, I appreciate their stadium announcer giving it socks and encouraging the crowd to boo Pat's :D
Fairly sure I heard him saying “St Pats, danke”.

Philosophizer
01/08/2024, 7:10 PM
2-2 now. Great quick reaction by Romal Palmer to put that in.

Philosophizer
01/08/2024, 7:13 PM
Vaduz are very annoyed now. You can just tell they really think they’re better than LOI standard.

Philosophizer
01/08/2024, 7:14 PM
Would absolutely love it if pats got a 3rd to nick the win.

Acornvilla
01/08/2024, 7:16 PM
Fairly sure I heard him saying “St Pats, danke”.
Might be, he's definitely said St. Pats and gotten a wee boo after both Vaduz goals, I assume it's just their tradition

ger121
01/08/2024, 7:16 PM
Just the 11-0 over the two legs...

Sabah miss first in the shoot-out in Azerbaijan. 2-1 Maccabi after two kicks each.

Edit - Maccabi miss back; 2-2 after three kicks each now

Sabah through 3-2 on penalties. Maccabi missed their last three kicks, with Pierrot - who scored twice in the game - missing the last one.

Not sure which side would have been better tbh. I think Sabah are weaker but the trip to Azerbaijan is awkward whereas playing Maccabi in a neutral venue would have been a help.

Still, it is what it is. Pat's not through yet of course.

Trust me PS. Sabah definitely the weaker of the two sides. They are efficient. Seemed to score with more of their chances in both legs from what I seen. As I said Maccabi incredibly wasteful. Reminded me of Partizan against Rovers.

pineapple stu
01/08/2024, 7:17 PM
Rapid Vienna 5-0 up on Wisla Krakow at halftime, and they've missed a penalty. Unexpected!

Magpies lost 5-1 in the end; 8-1 on aggregate. A respectable enough showing I guess

pateen
01/08/2024, 7:22 PM
How's the ol' Shels doing ?

ger121
01/08/2024, 7:24 PM
Well done Pat’s

pateen
01/08/2024, 7:25 PM
Well done Pat’s
For sure. Another round to look forward to.

Philosophizer
01/08/2024, 7:25 PM
2-2 FT and pats are through.

Vaduz threw the kitchen sink at it in the end. Hit the bar and had a few shots blocked but Pats fully deserved to go through.

CorribsideSteve
01/08/2024, 7:26 PM
Any stream for the Shels game?

CorribsideSteve
01/08/2024, 7:29 PM
Congrats to Pats. Looked a bit wobbly at times but some good attacking forays also. Palmer and Leavy stood out for me.

texidub
01/08/2024, 7:30 PM
https://livetv.sx/enx/eventinfo/216307582_shelbourne_zurich/

kksaints
01/08/2024, 7:37 PM
Rapid Vienna 5-0 up on Wisla Krakow at halftime, and they've missed a penalty. Unexpected!

Magpies lost 5-1 in the end; 8-1 on aggregate. A respectable enough showing I guess

Wisla are a 2nd division side after they got relegated a few seasons ago, so it's not that much of a surprise that a fairly strong Rapid side are cruising.

kksaints
01/08/2024, 7:38 PM
Job done and through to the next round. Was a bit nervous when they took the lead twice but we equalized quickly both times which was a huge relief. Sabah in next round now, would have said they'd be far too good for us but after their near total collapse today I'm not so sure.

pineapple stu
01/08/2024, 7:39 PM
Wisla are a 2nd division side after they got relegated a few seasons ago, so it's not that much of a surprise that a fairly strong Rapid side are cruising.
Cheers - I missed that. Qualified as Cup winners it seems. First European campaign in almost 15 years.

ger121
01/08/2024, 7:44 PM
Nice boost for the co-efficient too! Now if Little Old Shels can do something

ger121
01/08/2024, 7:45 PM
Job done and through to the next round. Was a bit nervous when they took the lead twice but we equalized quickly both times which was a huge relief. Sabah in next round now, would have said they'd be far too good for us but after their near total collapse today I'm not so sure.

It’s a decent draw at this stage of the qualifying competition. Some much bigger fish that have been avoided.

placid casual
01/08/2024, 7:52 PM
Huge pressure on Pat's to get through tonight. Basically need Pat's to go through here and Rovers to get into the group stage for LOI in Europe 24 to not be considered a failure.

We really could do with not losing both games today too for the co-efficient. We are right in the mix for having a Europa League spot in 25/26 but we need to get another 2/3 wins (4-6 draws) to secure that.
Spoken like a fan of a LOI team who hasn't been in Europe for a generation or two. These fans are similar to english football fans of lower league clubs who arrogantly assume their country has a god given right to walk over any opposition.
Fans of dundalk,Rovers,pats,bohs et al will always be more guarded in their optimism of European football,for very good reason.

pineapple stu
01/08/2024, 8:09 PM
Seems a very quiet game in Tolka?

Zurich's twitter had nothing for the first half. Shels noted two or three changes. Livescore says one shot on target all game, for Zurich

Meanwhile Zira - who finished level on points with Sabah in Azerbaijan last year - are 6-1 up on Dunajska Streda of Slovakia. So for all that Sabah mightn't have impressed today, the league is dangerous still, and Pat's aren't Maccabi

CorribsideSteve
01/08/2024, 8:12 PM
Shels seem to be holding their own but Zurich are in 2nd gear also.

holidaysong
01/08/2024, 8:17 PM
A draw wouldn't be too bad here and add 0.125 to the coefficient. Keep it tight Duffer.

CorribsideSteve
01/08/2024, 8:18 PM
Zurich player just pushed over a Shels coach on the sideline trying to claim a throw in (it was clearly a Shels throw in). A bit of a scrum on the sidelines ensued and the player got booked. Stupid on his part. Edit: hooked off by the boss moments later

Acornvilla
01/08/2024, 8:30 PM
Zurich player just pushed over a Shels coach on the sideline trying to claim a throw in (it was clearly a Shels throw in). A bit of a scrum on the sidelines ensued and the player got booked. Stupid on his part. Edit: hooked off by the boss moments later
Pretty ****ty behavior and totally unnecessary.

Wild to see Armstrong Okoflex come on against Shels in Europe!

ger121
01/08/2024, 8:41 PM
But of pride restored for Shels and that undefeated record at home continues for another year.

pineapple stu
01/08/2024, 8:51 PM
that undefeated record at home continues for another year.
Mad achievement that. 10 games unbeaten now.

We've matched our results last year already - four wins and four draws - and Rovers/Pat's are still in. Celje and Sabah next - I'd be disappointed with two defeats in either of those games tbh, though that may be over-optimistic.

Then on to Rovers' next draw on Monday, which will give an indication of how likely group stage football is.

There's still question marks over the performances really - Rovers a penalty kick away from facing extra time with ten men against Viking, and Derry losing to a Gibraltar side (albeit with a dodgy disallowed goal and a red card) the stand-outs. But Shels didn't have it all their own way against the Gibraltar side either (who hit the woodwork a number of times out there), Pat's got a nice draw against second tier opposition (they could have had Brondby or Gent - but I suppose it makes up for Zurich/Copenhagen), and even Shels picked up a (good) draw against a side who already had the tie won.

But it's respectable enough so far. Derry have blown a huge chance to really improve their coefficient, which would be the main downside I think.

pateen
01/08/2024, 8:54 PM
But of pride restored for Shels and that undefeated record at home continues for another year.

Ok, fair play Shels

nigel-harps1954
01/08/2024, 8:56 PM
Two very respectable results tonight really.

joey B
01/08/2024, 9:05 PM
Are Pats still playing in Richmond Park for the next round?

kksaints
01/08/2024, 9:06 PM
Are Pats still playing in Richmond Park for the next round?

No, we've to move to Tallaght.

ger121
01/08/2024, 9:47 PM
No, we've to move to Tallaght.

The Pat’s Tallaght curse. Have you ever won a European game there? Mind you it has been lucky for Dundalk.

pineapple stu
01/08/2024, 10:03 PM
Not much change in the coefficients after tonight's games. Still 33rd, though Kosovo have pulled a little bit clearer and are 0.419 ahead. Iceland are 34th, 0.542 behind. But the next round - and any group stage qualifications - will tell a lot about where we're going to end the year. RFS of Latvia have to beat Andorran opposition to reach the groups for example, while either Bosnia or the Faroes will be there too (and possibly both), as will Belarus or Gibraltar, though they're too far behind us to worry about for now.

We're 41st across this year and last year - four countries below us have a higher coefficient this year - so be good to add another couple of results this year.

Elsewhere, Serbia are ranked the worst league this year at the moment, with 1 win and 5 defeats from 6 games, while Finland are also going steadily backwards - 3.7 to 2.7 to 1.7 to 0.7 in successive years.

kksaints
01/08/2024, 10:09 PM
The Pat’s Tallaght curse. Have you ever won a European game there? Mind you it has been lucky for Dundalk.

None that I can think of. Think we've lost all of them.

joey B
01/08/2024, 11:43 PM
Rovers opponents in the Conference League draw IF they lose to Celje from those teams .

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sbgawa
02/08/2024, 7:28 AM
There are also the teams that lose in the champions path in europa league round 3 like us in this scenerio