LOI in Europe 2022 [Archive] - Page 4

pineapple stu

16/06/2022, 4:36 PM

A key one for me is transfer fees.

We sell our players to England early for pennies, partly because there isn't really a pro route here. (There's pro players obviously, but how many 19s players would be looking at getting a pro deal?) In most other countries in Europe, players stay domestically until they're 21/22. Means a much bigger transfer fee and that gets reinvested into the league.

Imagine where we'd be with a Bazunu a year.

(Obviously it helps that the same Euro money and transfer fee income will stretch further in eastern Europe, where a player can be full-time on less)

There's other factors of course, but that's a key one we need to address

pineapple stu

16/06/2022, 6:51 PM

Just seen actually that Jurkovskis is with FC Riga now - he was Dundalk last year.

FC Riga are effectively Skonto Riga, who were the dominant side of the 90s and 00s.

CorribsideSteve

16/06/2022, 8:18 PM

Just seen actually that Jurkovskis is with FC Riga now - he was Dundalk last year.

FC Riga are effectively Skonto Riga, who were the dominant side of the 90s and 00s.

I was at a CL qualifier in 1997 in the Nou Camp. Barca vs Skonto, and Barca were pushed all the way.Skonto took the lead twice only for Stoichkov to score a last minute penalty winner. God that was a rubbish Barca team but it was nearly a huge scalp Euro wise too.

sbgawa

17/06/2022, 5:38 AM

You couldn't be to confident Derry would beat that skonto team now.
Fitness might be decisive in the end I guess most of them.are in their 50s now.

Candystripe

17/06/2022, 2:21 PM

You couldn't be to confident Derry would beat that skonto team now.
Fitness might be decisive in the end I guess most of them.are in their 50s now.

🤣🤣

I was at both home and away games v Skonto and it wasn't a brilliant Derry team at the time but Derry were the better team in both games and rightfully went through.

joey B

24/06/2022, 4:41 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/shelsfc/status/1540294382082981889

“Shelbourne will face Pomurje Beltinci (SVN) in our semi-final of Group One in this year's UEFA Women's Champions League “

pateen

30/06/2022, 6:56 PM

Quite quiet on here considering a big week ahead.

What’s the chances of any of the games on TV. Could RTE cause heart attacks and show the Shams game?

joey B

30/06/2022, 7:02 PM

Quite quiet on here considering a big week ahead.

What’s the chances of any of the games on TV. Could RTE cause heart attacks and show the Shams game?

Yeah Rovers game is on RT�….

Martinho II

30/06/2022, 7:08 PM

Yeah Rovers game is on RT�….

What day is that Joey B?

joey B

30/06/2022, 7:12 PM

What day is that Joey B?

First leg on Tuesday…

pateen

30/06/2022, 7:14 PM

No way ...
Shock horror.

sidewayspasser

30/06/2022, 7:52 PM

Will there be any streams for the others? LOITV maybe?

ontheotherhand

30/06/2022, 8:29 PM

No way ...
Shock horror.

They show the champions pateen.....it isn't a conspiracy.

yurt

30/06/2022, 11:35 PM

Listening to the LOI Central pod and there's a wild story where the LOI referee in charge of Hibernians game last year done them in with a few decisions. They went ballistic at full time and now have a considerable amount of players and management suspended for the games against Rovers.

Hilarious that Rovers are getting a massive lift from another controversial Irish refereeing display.

pineapple stu

01/07/2022, 4:53 AM

Presume it was their most recent game - Rob Hennessy was in charge and they conceded in the 96th minute to go to extra time, and conceded twice more there.

They had two players sent off in injury time too

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_UEFA_Europa_Conference_League_qual ifying_phase_and_play-off_round_(Champions_Path)#Q3_4.2

placid casual

01/07/2022, 8:39 AM

sbgawa

01/07/2022, 8:44 AM

I have great sympathy for Hibs that it was Hennessy who reffed the game, but no surprise at his "performance".
He was like a small child the other night in the pats game, running around, completely clueless to the game going on around him - it's an embarrassent that LOI send this level of ref to European competitions.

I said the other night that he had a shocker but in fairness it was a shocker for both teams.

EalingGreen

01/07/2022, 12:55 PM

Although I can't find it now, I briefly scanned an article the other day about IL clubs in Europe and the travel difficulties they are facing this season.

Basically the cost of chartering aircraft to fly to Europe has rocketed, to around three times the normal rate - I seem to recall that while it typically cost �25k to charter a plane to Western Europe this time last year, you could now be looking at �75k. This is because the majority of charter aircraft for this sort of business were/are Russian, and they've now been sanctioned. As a result, even if you can find an available aircraft (not at all easy), clubs simply cannot now afford to charter them, even if they sell spare seats to supporters to offeset the cost, as they often do.

As a result, most clubs will now have to try for scheduled flights, which is hardly ideal. Meanwhile, in typically jammy fashion, Linfield drew a Welsh team, TNS, so instead will get the ferry - I hope the waves are 30 feet high and they all get seasick!

(Thinking about ferries, Sligo have certainly done well, drawing Bala, then Motherwell, should they go through)

outspoken

01/07/2022, 2:08 PM

Nesta99

01/07/2022, 8:00 PM

refjohn

01/07/2022, 9:58 PM

I have great sympathy for Hibs that it was Hennessy who reffed the game, but no surprise at his "performance".
He was like a small child the other night in the pats game, running around, completely clueless to the game going on around him - it's an embarrassent that LOI send this level of ref to European competitions.

To be fair to Hennessy he did get highly commended about that particular game and how he handled it. Just ironic that they then got an Irish team

pateen

02/07/2022, 2:00 PM

Did revers rest a few last night or injuries?

Seem a few missing from the first team

ontheotherhand

02/07/2022, 2:44 PM

Did revers rest a few last night or injuries?

Seem a few missing from the first team

Injuries..heading into Europe again with a few hobbled. Bit different to last year in that it's only one area of the pitch that's struggling but having our 3 most creative players out isn't ideal at all. Gaffney is doing a lot of work on his own at the moment. Any Irish team needs their best 11 performing at their best to do well in Europe and we aren't there unfortunately. Hibernians have a few banned so hopefully we have enough but Jack was supposed to be the difference maker for Europe and even if he does make it back he won't be fully match fit so I'm nervous enough now.

pateen

02/07/2022, 3:08 PM

Who else is out

ontheotherhand

02/07/2022, 3:39 PM

Who else is out

Byrne, Burke and Mandroiu. Just the three you'd be expecting to do the damage! Burke was supposed to be back this week and came on against Pat's but wasn't even in the squad yesterday. Danny should be the sharpest of the 3 as he is only recently out but I'm not sure how long he's gone for. Jack might start training on Monday after a 5 week layoff but he wasn't even really up to speed before he got injured so....

Farrugia is also out but less of a concern. He'd be handy though if we needed pace...and we do look a bit short of it. Towell is just back from an injury as well but he's replaceable.

So again, not as bad as last year when we had to start the game with lads who weren't even able to train...but not great. Still should have enough for Hibernians I think but I'm less confident than I would be with even 2 of the 3 above fully firing.

pateen

02/07/2022, 6:21 PM

Thats some of your biggest names. Its going to be very tight

Martinho II

02/07/2022, 6:33 PM

Have Hibernians any recognisable faces in their squad does anyone know lads?

ontheotherhand

02/07/2022, 6:40 PM

Thats some of your biggest names. Its going to be very tight

Not ideal but we have Watts and Gaffney in reasonable form which will hopefully be enough against Hibernians who are missing some key players as well. I'm encouraged that Grace is fit and playing well so we should be better at the back than we were against Flora....that's a low bar though!

If we can get through this round and get the 3 lads back firing on all cylinders I'll be more confident. Was really hoping Jack and Danny would be ready to go. I think they'd cause any team problems even and maybe especially if we were under the cosh a bit in later stages.

D24Saint

02/07/2022, 6:52 PM

The first leg between our potential opponents Sf�ntul Gheorghe v NS Mura is on next week. I’d be shocked if Mura don’t progress as they featured in the group stages last year. They played Sturm Graz who finished second in the Austrian league recently and lost 3-2. Where Sf�ntul Gheorghe finished forth in the Moldovan league last year and lost six nil to Steau Bucharest in a recent friendly.

https://youtu.be/_2vTnDbjvWc

pineapple stu

03/07/2022, 5:08 AM

All four European teams won at the weekend, which has to be rare going into the Euro games?

Hopefully a good sign

joey B

03/07/2022, 11:11 AM

No Emakhu in the European squad for Rovers,is that a suprise? Is he on the move maybe?

WeAreRovers

03/07/2022, 11:47 AM

No Emakhu in the European squad for Rovers,is that suprise? Is he on the move maybe?

My understanding is that as he�s an academy player he doesn�t have to be registered in that A list but can play anyway.

Stuttgart88

03/07/2022, 12:16 PM

Yeah Rovers game is on RTɅ.
Worldwide on RTE Player in case anyone overseas is interested.

pateen

03/07/2022, 3:26 PM

Worldwide on RTE Player in case anyone overseas is interested.

Nice one

paul_oshea

03/07/2022, 6:22 PM

Is mandrious move immediate or can they work something like last year?

ger121

03/07/2022, 6:28 PM

It does seem as though Mandriou is off to MK Dons, according to a few �sources� on social media. Seen 2 figures quoted. �60,000 and �75,000. Talk of Devoy joining him too.

pineapple stu

03/07/2022, 6:42 PM

Is that all?

Fairly disappointing when the reigning champions' joint-top scorer isn't even worth �100k.

culloty82

03/07/2022, 6:45 PM

It does seem as though Mandriou is off to MK Dons, according to a few ‘sources’ on social media. Seen 2 figures quoted. �60,000 and �75,000. Talk of Devoy joining him too.

Lincoln City, according to Dan McDonnell:

https://twitter.com/McDonnellDan/status/1543633072133922819

sbgawa

03/07/2022, 6:47 PM

Is that all?

Fairly disappointing when the reigning champions' joint-top scorer isn't even worth �100k.

Rovers dont take chump change for transfers so if that figure is true he us either injured, or only stayed at the beginning of the season on the basis he could leave in the summer
Whatever about the money if he is gone we are heading into Europe without Danny/jack or Burkey (unless one of them makes it Tuesday after not playing for weeks).
Bradser has spent all season rotating to try to go into Europe with two teams used to playing together and now we are ****ed right when we need them.
Gutted

joey B

03/07/2022, 6:51 PM

I think he’s only got 4 months left on his contract,probably why the fee is that low….

sbgawa

03/07/2022, 7:05 PM

I think he’s only got 4 months left on his contract,probably why the fee is that low….

Has to be something else if 60k for him when making a round in europe is worth 250k.
I guess we wil find out

D24Saint

03/07/2022, 7:14 PM

Has to be something else if 60k for him when making a round in europe is worth 250k.
I guess we wil find out

Must be on the pints again.

Nah Nah Nah Nah

03/07/2022, 7:32 PM

Burns only has the same and pats are supposed to be getting 180k for him and a sell on clause

placid casual

03/07/2022, 8:24 PM

The contract that Danny negotiated last season to stay was a sell on clause of one seasons wages hence the low figure.

joey B

03/07/2022, 10:32 PM

https://www.balatownfc.net/post/bala-town-sligo-rovers-live-stream-information

Bala Town v Sligo Rovers stream for Thursday,7 quid.........

ger121

03/07/2022, 10:45 PM

The contract that Danny negotiated last season to stay was a sell on clause of one seasons wages hence the low figure.

Would have to be a sell-on clause alright based on the figures doing the rounds. I suppose the flip side is he could leave in November for free so cash in now. If he is injured, then not having him for the European games if he goes is less of an issue. Personally I think you�ll be in the ECL PO at a minimum so will make some good wedge from Europe with or without him.

sbgawa

04/07/2022, 12:11 AM

Would have to be a sell-on clause alright based on the figures doing the rounds. I suppose the flip side is he could leave in November for free so cash in now. If he is injured, then not having him for the European games if he goes is less of an issue. Personally I think you’ll be in the ECL PO at a minimum so will make some good wedge from Europe with or without him.

Win our first round and we are guaranteed PO for conference league but lose first round and we would have to win two more rounds to get there
The first round is everything

Shinkicker

04/07/2022, 4:56 AM

It does seem as though Mandriou is off to MK Dons, according to a few �sources� on social media. Seen 2 figures quoted. �60,000 and �75,000. Talk of Devoy joining him too.
Real bargain bucket stuff. At 24 the sell on fees won't be much so there must be a reason for the low figure. Hopefully if Devoy leaves Bohs they can negotiate a better fee to reflect the talent LOI is currently producing

ger121

04/07/2022, 8:05 AM

Real bargain bucket stuff. At 24 the sell on fees won't be much so there must be a reason for the low figure. Hopefully if Devoy leaves Bohs they can negotiate a better fee to reflect the talent LOI is currently producing

I�m sure Devoy�s agent did likewise with a clause, when he signed on for another season. They seem to be all the rage in the LOI at the moment.