LOI in Europe 2022

[WeAreRovers]

If i had to guess id say its cheaper for them to show the Pats away game as they are probably paying buttons for a feed.
RTE doing an outside broadcast costs a fortune due to the civil service type costs , contracts and work patterns.

To be fair to RTE on the other hand, Virgin are the holders of the rights for the Europa League so they should be answering the question here.

OB costs are very high but are nothing to do with 'civil service type costs' (insert massive eyeroll). Each OB is tendered out and done by the private contractor with the most competitive tender. OB costs are the same for similar productions across all broadcasters.

The real reasons will be to do with rights - cost and availability, ability to get into the schedule on a linear channel in prime time, staffing availability (RTÉ has two weeks of full days of European Athletics Champions coverage coming up almost straight after the Women's Euros both of which are staffing intensive), and yes, the OB cost for a game in Ireland.

[EatYerGreens]

Virgin are probably praying that no Irish team makes the group stages or they'll be forced to show the games.

Defintely. Virgin actually angers me - as with all the crap they show they don't even pretend to be an Irish TV channel. It's all shows they've shipped in about English police forces, the Royal Family etc etc.

Don't get me started on Sky News ignoring the fact that it also serves subscribers in Ireland either (even if they did run a specific Irish news programe very briefly about 10yrs ago).

[Shinkicker]

Defintely. Virgin actually angers me - as with all the crap they show they don't even pretend to be an Irish TV channel. It's all shows they've shipped in about English police forces, the Royal Family etc etc.

Don't get me started on Sky News ignoring the fact that it also serves subscribers in Ireland either (even if they did run a specific Irish news programe very briefly about 10yrs ago).
Don't get me started. I've seen today BBC NIare showing an Irish league game each wee for 5 weeks on the trot. There may even be more and we battle to get 5 a season unkess someone gets into Europe. Yet RTE will show GAA Club games. Its a total farce. Hang your head RTE.

[legendz]

If i had to guess id say its cheaper for them to show the Pats away game as they are probably paying buttons for a feed.
RTE doing an outside broadcast costs a fortune due to the civil service type costs , contracts and work patterns.

To be fair to RTE on the other hand, Virgin are the holders of the rights for the Europa League so they should be answering the question here.Agreed, Virgin Media should be coming under scrutiny for not supporting Irish football. They have the rights to the Europa League and Europa Conference League. Virgin Media are ignoring the League of Ireland progress.

[CuanaD]

I'm sure this has been discussed in previous seasons and the packaged TV rights only start at the group stages, so these qualifiers are sold separately.

[WeAreRovers]

I'm sure this has been discussed in previous seasons and the packaged TV rights only start at the group stages, so these qualifiers are sold separately.

They actually start with the play-off round hence RTÉ being contractually obliged to show a CL play-off tie. Same presumably would apply to VM with EL & ECL play-off rounds.

[legendz]

I'm sure this has been discussed in previous seasons and the packaged TV rights only start at the group stages, so these qualifiers are sold separately.We know the qualifiers are sold separately. It's just unfair to be criticising RTÉ on the Europa and Conference qualifiers when Virgin Media hold the rights to the main event. Virgin Media are communicating that they do not care about Irish football?

[paul_oshea]

Both teams chartered out of knock yesterday. Did pat's have to bus it to knock ? Must be so much cheaper as mura did the same

[A N Mouse]

They actually start with the play-off round hence RTÉ being contractually obliged to show a CL play-off tie. Same presumably would apply to VM with EL & ECL play-off rounds.

That's interesting, I half remember they were changing the rights packages to include the qualifiers, but there was some resistance.

Is it just an extension of the old obligation to broadcast domestic teams (before foreign) in the group stages?

[pineapple stu]

Just seeing there that Shkupi were formed out of a merger between Sloga Jugomagnat and another club - Sloga are the side Shels beat in 2000; retro highlights below. Shels nearly ballsed up the return leg; they were 1-0 up, but in the last ten minutes they conceded an equaliser and then had to clear off the line (which would have seen them out on away goals).

It's the only other time we've played North Macedonian opposition, and was the first time since 1994 that any LoI club had won a round in Europe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0I-E0-o0yQ

[Asterix]

Both teams chartered out of knock yesterday. Did pat's have to bus it to knock ? Must be so much cheaper as mura did the same

Just difficult to get a spot in Dublin. Shkupi had to land in Shannon yesterday.

[WeAreRovers]

That's interesting, I half remember they were changing the rights packages to include the qualifiers, but there was some resistance.

Is it just an extension of the old obligation to broadcast domestic teams (before foreign) in the group stages?

No, it's for the actual play-off rounds regardless of teams involved.

[Asterix]

Just difficult to get a spot in Dublin. Shkupi had to land in Shannon yesterday.

They aren't happy about it...

http://fcshkupi.com/a-huge-shame-on-our-team-in-ireland/?lang=en

[sbgawa]

They aren't happy about it...

http://fcshkupi.com/a-huge-shame-on-our-team-in-ireland/?lang=en


Jeez i hate to say it but Bohs have lost there title as most self obsessed whingers.

The DAA writing the Managers team talk is a brand new way for the Government to **** on the LOI :eek:

[joey B]

If only the Irish government actually cared enough to do that!

Should send all the rest of the teams to Carrickfinn,do it properly!!

[nigel-harps1954]

They aren't happy about it...

http://fcshkupi.com/a-huge-shame-on-our-team-in-ireland/?lang=en

This is properly hilarious.

[Burnsie]

Didn't Rovers have to drive to Shannon in order to get to Bulgaria, or was it Malta?

[joey B]

Malta I think,Pats had to fly out of Knock yesterday aswell…

[Burnsie]

shower of crybabies. Hope Rovers pump them

[Asterix]

Shannon to get to Malta and split up and went three different ways to get to Bulgaria. I think they have a charter from Dublin for this round.

[nigel-harps1954]

They're crying on social media that Shamrock Rovers "has decided not to sell its broadcasting rights in our country or Albania!" and that it's costing €10 to stream the game via LOITV.

Supporters on FC Shkupi Facebook page, hundreds of comments stating how they'll get their revenge next week. I'm assuming some poor translation is happening from Facebooks own translation of the home fans languages, but there's some lovely remarks on there about Irish and such things.

[Longfordian]

Might watch now to see what kind of evil they plan to inflict on Rovers.

[paul_oshea]

Well it's hardly the club's fault but you can't blame them really. I'm on the border currently between north Macedonia and Albania and there's no interest in euro round football of any kind here on TV as I'd asked around in the hope of watching and no one knows about it in the bars! But playing some obscure teams on the TV all the same.

Someone does need to tell them mura had to do the same though. It is a bit of an ingenious plan, disrupt all teams including Ireland's own :D

[placid casual]

The state of that statement..😁
Macedonians going round with a bit of a chip on their shoulder methinks. Getting their excuses in early maybe. They should re-route them through the jack lynch tunnel in Cork on the way back, and maybe have their
bus run out of juice in a moyross estate in Limerick.

[sbgawa]

They're crying on social media that Shamrock Rovers "has decided not to sell its broadcasting rights in our country or Albania!" and that it's costing €10 to stream the game via LOITV.

Supporters on FC Shkupi Facebook page, hundreds of comments stating how they'll get their revenge next week. I'm assuming some poor translation is happening from Facebooks own translation of the home fans languages, but there's some lovely remarks on there about Irish and such things.

yeah cos thats what LOI clubs do, refuse to take money off TV companies ;)
Might be a hot reception for Rovers fans when they get there next week as a result of this nonsense

[Calcio Jack]

Jeez i hate to say it but Bohs have lost there title as most self obsessed whingers.

The DAA writing the Managers team talk is a brand new way for the Government to **** on the LOI :eek:

No doubt Madame President will issue a statement on her website correction on the Presidents website

[EatYerGreens]

Poor man's mind games from Shkupi there. Do they even have that many fans to want to watch it ? God knows why they should be worried about whether or not the rights have bene sold to Albania or not. Sound like a serious bunch of whingers.

[kksaints]

Poor man's mind games from Shkupi there. Do they even have that many fans to want to watch it ? God knows why they should be worried about whether or not the rights have bene sold to Albania or not. Sound like a serious bunch of whingers.

Their fanbase would be mostly Albanian heritage.

[EatYerGreens]

Their fanbase would be mostly Albanian heritage.

Still doesn't explain why they expect the rights to be sold to Albanian TV. North Nacedonia isn't even a proper country sure :p

[pineapple stu]

Of course it's a proper country.

kksaints has explained it quite correctly. Or take a quote from their wiki page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KF_Shkupi) - "Similarly to Shkëndija, FK Shkupi is an Albanian oriented club, with the supporters being Albanian and also part of the Tifozat Kuq e Zi, an ultras group that supports Albania in international football. Nationalist Albanian rhetoric is often a part of the chanting in league games."

Their complaints are...well, let's hope something's been added in translation.

[sbgawa]

Still doesn't explain why they expect the rights to be sold to Albanian TV. North Nacedonia isn't even a proper country sure :p

The Macedonian Republican Army will be waiting for you .

[pineapple stu]

North Macedonian.

It's a proper country, but as countries go, they're trolls - don't feed the trolls. :) So North Macedonia it is.

Also a beautiful spot if any Rovers fans are going (provided there's no reception for them...)

[brendy_éire]

They're crying on social media that Shamrock Rovers "has decided not to sell its broadcasting rights in our country or Albania!" and that it's costing €10 to stream the game via LOITV.

I get why they're annoyed about the price, TBF.

They charged €2.40 for a ticket for the Dinamo Zagreb game. To put that in context, it'd be the same as Derry fans paying £100 for a stream.

Love the statement though. Proper 'Greatest League in the World' vibes off it.

[Nesta99]

They were quick to pick up the whole Shamrock Rovers being evil stuff!

[ger121]

Shkupi loopy indeed.

[EatYerGreens]

The Macedonian Republican Army will be waiting for you .

'Small place in Greece ! You're just a small place in Greece. Small place in Greeee-eeeece !"

[EatYerGreens]

They were quick to pick up the whole Shamrock Rovers being evil stuff!

They're not entirely mad then.

[pineapple stu]

For what it's worth (and you never know!), new Steaua beat Dunajska Streda 1-0 in Slovakia last night. Winners face Sligo/Viking next

Basel v Brondby is a heck of a tie for the third round actually; they'll both be ****ed with that. The winners will have an easier tie next, whether it's Pat's or CSKA Sofia

[pineapple stu]

Sligo 1-0 down already.

Just like in the first round - and that ended alright!

[joey B]

Sligo 2 down….

[Philosophizer]

Don't wanna curse it but Pats v comfortable so far. Cotter is his usual enigmatic self. Just had a beautiful turn and danced away from 2 CSKA lads.

[pineapple stu]

Sligo 2 down….
And forced into an early sub through injury too. Nightmare start all round there

[Philosophizer]

Cotter is his usual enigmatic self. Just had a beautiful turn and danced away from 2 CSKA lads.
A lovely move just got him into a great position and he fell over the ball 😂. Best move of the game so far.

[TonyD]

Pats doing well so far, but signs that CSKA are starting to turn the screw a bit.

[Philosophizer]

Doyle looks old at times. If he has to sprint a bit he's gassed for about it 5 mins.

[Big Ears]

Pat's need to slow the tempo and run the clock where possible.
It's obviously hot over there, and while there is passages of slow play, CSKA have some very pacey players when they get going and it's clearly taking it's toll staying with them.

[joey B]

Pats defenders all playing well,the attacking players struggling to get into the game though…

[joey B]

Buckley went of injured for Sligo aswell,big loss for them that….

[paul_oshea]

Pat's doing alright here. But CSKA look dangerous down the left.

[Martinho II]

Now ye lads mention North Macedonia why did they change the name of their country? Wot was that about?