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sbgawa
07/07/2018, 12:31 PM
Well you can't have everyone ! :)
I did smile at the dream move bit , that will play well on de north side:)

Ezeikial
07/07/2018, 12:48 PM
Its more likely that we'd have to listen to you talk about them.


Agreed....

Thats very likely, but I'd be disappointed if a club manager commented with made-up stuff or in a weird disparaging way on Rovers transfer activety

Ezeikial
07/07/2018, 12:51 PM
Watts and Greene signed.

Two excellent signings that will strengthen Rovers.

Rovers remain defensively vulnerable

disgruntled
07/07/2018, 1:57 PM
Agreed....

Excellent signings by Rovers.
Badly needed after watching last night.
Miele seems to have gone way down the order at Rovers ?

Dalymountrower
07/07/2018, 3:07 PM
Well you can't have everyone ! :)
I did smile at the dream move bit , that will play well on de north side:)
We were lucky to have him play on loan for us for five months on a fraction of his wages, good luck to him.He might even help Rovers increase their one point haul against us this season.
The Aaron Green signing is hilarious though, is that because he also had a short stint with Bohs?

sbgawa
07/07/2018, 3:33 PM
Forgot he played for you boys.

Dalymountrower
07/07/2018, 3:38 PM
Forgot he played for you boys.
He signed for us and a lot of other clubs, whether he played for them all is another matter. Brilliant when he played for Galway though.
Anyway, his dream move, I'm sure.

Jofspring
07/07/2018, 6:55 PM
Sure isn't this Greenes second spell at Shamrock Rovers?

He has played with:

Galway, Bohs, Sligo, Shamrock Rovers X2, St.Pats, Limerick and Bray.

marinobohs
09/07/2018, 9:02 AM
Good signings. Rovers able to compete in the transfer market after all.

Dylan Watts happy with his "dream move". That'll antagonise no one :)

3 Grand a week ? that is a dream move :rolleyes: technically very gifted player but very, very similar to Finn, difficult to see both fit in one team. Lots of potential to develop, especially on physical side. can only hope he proves as big a hit as Lopez and Byrne (4 times the salary for half the player :cool:)
Greene is a typical LOI enigma, has everything needed to be a top class player but goes missing far too often, difficult to see him change at this stage of his career.

sbgawa
09/07/2018, 10:00 AM
3 grand a week! , you are dreaming.
I doubt even McEleney is getting that at Dundalk.
Watts looked good every time I saw him for you boys and I'm sure will improve even more going forward now.
I assume he signed for us rather than Dundalk so he could be more likely to get game time (given the squad Dundalk have now) and hopefully get a decent offer to go back to England, either way he is a great signing that will help next season to hopefully close the gap.
Trevor Clarke coming back next season will feel like a new signing as well, he had started to form a great partnership with Kavanagh on the wing befor ethe injury

marinobohs
09/07/2018, 10:11 AM
3 grand a week! , you are dreaming.
I doubt even McEleney is getting that at Dundalk.
Watts looked good every time I saw him for you boys and I'm sure will improve even more going forward now.
I assume he signed for us rather than Dundalk so he could be more likely to get game time (given the squad Dundalk have now) and hopefully get a decent offer to go back to England, either way he is a great signing that will help next season to hopefully close the gap.
Trevor Clarke coming back next season will feel like a new signing as well, he had started to form a great partnership with Kavanagh on the wing befor ethe injury

3 grand a week is what I reliably heard (and matches what he agent quoted several clubs). Finn is on more than that (including his deal with pepper). Watt is a very good technical player but still needs a lot of development in terms of end product, and physically he has been bullied in some games (most notably Dundalk) he strikes me as very similar to Finn in style and I cant see both playing in the one team but will be interesting to see what Bradley does, don't buy the 'increased profile in UK' nonsense - playing for Bohs would be better than sitting on the bench at Tallaght if that were his priority.

El-Pietro
09/07/2018, 10:15 AM
3 grand a week is what I reliably heard (and matches what he agent quoted several clubs). Finn is on more than that (including his deal with pepper). Watt is a very good technical player but still needs a lot of development in terms of end product, and physically he has been bullied in some games (most notably Dundalk) he strikes me as very similar to Finn in style and I cant see both playing in the one team but will be interesting to see what Bradley does, don't buy the 'increased profile in UK' nonsense - playing for Bohs would be better than sitting on the bench at Tallaght if that were his priority.
I don't for a second believe any player is on close to 3 k a week. Maybe Finn if you factor in his full time job but no one is getting close to that for football alone.

The numbers I heard for Sheppard when he was gonna sign for Dundalk was around 1500, and 1300 at City. No idea how true those are but I'd be surprised if there are many players earning above 1500 a week.

sbgawa
09/07/2018, 10:16 AM
Dreaming not a chance, I've reliably heard , and i've never heard a figure even remotely like that for Finn.

sbgawa
09/07/2018, 10:18 AM
I don't for a second believe any player is on close to 3 k a week. Maybe Finn if you factor in his full time job but no one is getting close to that for football alone.

The numbers I heard for Sheppard when he was gonna sign for Dundalk was around 1500, and 1300 at City. No idea how true those are but I'd be surprised if there are many players earning above 1500 a week.

Very few earning more than that, it just isn't sustainable in the long run for any team, plus you can't have 1 guy on 3k and everyone else ****ed off

White Horse
09/07/2018, 10:32 AM
Dundalk - OUT - Marco Tagbajumi

Ezeikial
09/07/2018, 10:40 AM
Dundalk - OUT - Marco Tagbajumi

Is that a plea?

RathfarnhamHoop
09/07/2018, 10:42 AM
Is that a plea?

He put out a tweet that he's gone

Ezeikial
09/07/2018, 10:42 AM
Marco to Cork would be interesting.

I think he is John Caulfield's type of player

Park_Lane
09/07/2018, 10:45 AM
Two excellent signings that will strengthen Rovers.

Rovers remain defensively vulnerable

We have 4 clean sheets in a row in the league!

Ezeikial
09/07/2018, 10:45 AM
TAGBAJUMI LEAVES CLUB
Dundalk FC can confirm that striker Marco Tagbajumi has left the Club.
Tagbajumi joined the Lilywhites ahead of the 2018 season and played 20 games scoring 3 goals in his time at Oriel Park.
Everyone at Dundalk Football Club wish Marco well in his future career and wish to put on record or thanks to him for all is efforts during his time at the Club.

https://www.dundalkfc.com/tagbajumi-leaves-club/

White Horse
09/07/2018, 10:46 AM
Marco to Cork would be interesting.

I think he is John Caulfield's type of player

He'd have something to prove alright.

Ezeikial
09/07/2018, 11:00 AM
We have 4 clean sheets in a row in the league!

If the limit of Rovers ambitions is to be the perennial 4th place team, then the defense is adequate for that. The 4 consecutive clean sheets and being the team with the 3rd best defensive record in the league is ok.

If you look at the current league table you will see a big gulf in results: the clean sheet and goals conceded record between Rovers to Cork and Dundalk is substantial. The 24 points gap to the top of the table and the goal difference of +17 to + 51 (is that a 300% difference?) illustrates the enormous ground to make up.

Watts, Greene & Mannus will help to bridge this gap for 2019, but a defence that is picking form these guys will continue to suffer
Ethan Boyle
Roberto Lopes
Sam Bone
Joey O’Brien
Ally Gilchrist
Luke Byrne
Lee Grace

The other major obstacle for a 2019 title challenge is obvious and requires no further comment

marinobohs
09/07/2018, 11:08 AM
Dreaming not a chance, I've reliably heard , and i've never heard a figure even remotely like that for Finn.

Fair enough, watt joined shams because he could get more playing time than at Dundalk (and it was his dream) ;) and took a pay cut from the massive amount he was on at Bohs. Finn is actually playing for his 'love' of shams and has no contract with any company sponsoring a LOI club :cool:

.....if thats what you want to believe.

Park_Lane
09/07/2018, 11:11 AM
If the limit of Rovers ambitions is to be the perennial 4th place team, then the defense is adequate for that. The 4 consecutive clean sheets and being the team with the 3rd best defensive record in the league is ok.

If you look at the current league table you will see a big gulf in results: the clean sheet and goals conceded record between Rovers to Cork and Dundalk is substantial. The 24 points gap to the top of the table and the goal difference of +17 to + 51 (is that a 300% difference?) illustrates the enormous ground to make up.

Watts, Greene & Mannus will help to bridge this gap for 2019, but a defence that is picking form these guys will continue to suffer
Ethan Boyle
Roberto Lopes
Sam Bone
Joey O’Brien
Ally Gilchrist
Luke Byrne
Lee Grace

The other major obstacle for a 2019 title challenge is obvious and requires no further comment

Obsessed Much?!

Park_Lane
09/07/2018, 11:13 AM
Fair enough, watt joined shams because he could get more playing time than at Dundalk (and it was his dream) ;) and took a pay cut from the massive amount he was on at Bohs. Finn is actually playing for his 'love' of shams and has no contract with any company sponsoring a LOI club :cool:

.....if thats what you want to believe.

Well Watts is not being paid 156K per year if thats what you believe!!!

Ezeikial
09/07/2018, 11:18 AM
Obsessed Much?!

Just replying to your comment.

If you disagree, by all means offer an alternative opinion, instead of that hackneyed old line

Asterix
09/07/2018, 11:22 AM
Very few earning more than that, it just isn't sustainable in the long run for any team, plus you can't have 1 guy on 3k and everyone else ****ed off

Rumours from opposition fans when finn signed was that he was geting 3k a week, a car, a helicopter and a job at pepper. Although I've never seen that helicopter and he has never worked for pepper.:confused:

pineapple stu
09/07/2018, 11:26 AM
The other major obstacle for a 2019 title challenge is obvious and requires no further comment
Would that that were so...

Asterix
09/07/2018, 11:28 AM
Just replying to your comment.

If you disagree, by all means offer an alternative opinion, instead of that hackneyed old line

We've conceded ten more goals than Dundalk and that with two **** keepers that conceded a lot of ridiculous goals. Defence really isn't much of a problem, iv'e been more impressed with Boyle that I was with Madden he offers a lot more. Grace is one of the best center backs in the league and we will have Clarke at left back again next season.
Main problem was the keepers and thats now fixed.

Ezeikial
09/07/2018, 11:34 AM
Would that that were so...

That's hardly a brilliant addition to the discussion

With nearly 29,000 posts on here you are not exactly adverse to making a comment or two yourself
(even if you are irritated about being called out on some of the bizarre claims you make)

Park_Lane
09/07/2018, 11:38 AM
Just replying to your comment.

If you disagree, by all means offer an alternative opinion, instead of that hackneyed old line

O'Brien has been great for us apart from the sending off at pats. Grace has not been in the best of form but is still a very decent CD. Ally G will be released come end of season. Not convinced on Boyle either but has had a fair few decent games of late. A decent right back is a priority.
A back line of
Manus - Kavanagh - O'Brien - Grace - AN other looks fairly decent for next season.

Rovers like all the other clubs in the league are miles behind the Dundalk and Cork Squads, but its not insurmountable as you are led to believe by your stats.
We have been inconsistent but so have Derry/Pats etc.
I honestly take more joy with seeing the likes of Bazunu, Bolger and Brandon Kavanagh coming through than worrying how far we are off from the top 2, we will eventually rise to the top again. Its just a matter of time.

sbgawa
09/07/2018, 12:09 PM
Fair enough, watt joined shams because he could get more playing time than at Dundalk (and it was his dream) ;) and took a pay cut from the massive amount he was on at Bohs. Finn is actually playing for his 'love' of shams and has no contract with any company sponsoring a LOI club :cool:

.....if thats what you want to believe.

eh that's not what I said at all , just that they weren't on 3k a week which I doubt anyone on the league is on but don't let what I actually said interfere with what you want to say I said :)
How's them lemons ?

sbgawa
09/07/2018, 12:10 PM
That's hardly a brilliant addition to the discussion

With nearly 29,000 posts on here you are not exactly adverse to making a comment or two yourself
(even if you are irritated about being called out on some of the bizarre claims you make)

In fairness to him I doubt his percentage on the one topic is as high as yours

Asterix
09/07/2018, 12:12 PM
Fair enough, watt joined shams because he could get more playing time than at Dundalk (and it was his dream) ;) and took a pay cut from the massive amount he was on at Bohs. Finn is actually playing for his 'love' of shams and has no contract with any company sponsoring a LOI club :cool:

.....if thats what you want to believe.

We probably offered Eoghan Stokes 3k a week as well, but he went to bohs. Wonder what you lot must be paying him.

Ezeikial
09/07/2018, 12:13 PM
O'Brien has been great for us apart from the sending off at pats. Grace has not been in the best of form but is still a very decent CD. Ally G will be released come end of season. Not convinced on Boyle either but has had a fair few decent games of late. A decent right back is a priority.
A back line of
Manus - Kavanagh - O'Brien - Grace - AN other looks fairly decent for next season.

Rovers like all the other clubs in the league are miles behind the Dundalk and Cork Squads, but its not insurmountable as you are led to believe by your stats.
We have been inconsistent but so have Derry/Pats etc.
I honestly take more joy with seeing the likes of Bazunu, Bolger and Brandon Kavanagh coming through than worrying how far we are off from the top 2, we will eventually rise to the top again. Its just a matter of time.

So you have doubts about Grace, Gilchirst and Boyle?

Throw in reservations about Pico Lopes and Luke Byrne and we are almost in complete agreement - Rovers remain defensively vulnerable despite two excellent signing in Watts and Greene

sbgawa
09/07/2018, 12:17 PM
Rovers back line next season

Manus
Boyle.....Grace.....O Brien........Clarke

Clarke coming back will be huge for us. B
oyle had a bad few games at the start and everyone has taken the lazy view that he was bad at the start he is still bad but for those of us going to all the games Boyle has become huge for us.
I genuinely think if he leaves us it will be to England.
Cue lots of disagreement but I think over time people will see this.

Park_Lane
09/07/2018, 12:22 PM
So you have doubts about Grace, Gilchirst and Boyle?

Throw in reservations about Pico Lopes and Luke Byrne and we are almost in complete agreement - Rovers remain defensively vulnerable despite two excellent signing in Watts and Greene

No doubts about Grace, just needs experience beside him. Byrne is a squad player, Pico also a squad player at best.

Our issues this year were goalkeeper related mainly, that has been addressed.

Park_Lane
09/07/2018, 12:24 PM
Agree RE Boyle, not sure he is UK material but has vastly improved since start of season.

Ezeikial
09/07/2018, 12:30 PM
Rovers back line next season

Manus
Boyle.....Grace.....O Brien........Clarke

Clarke coming back will be huge for us. B
oyle had a bad few games at the start and everyone has taken the lazy view that he was bad at the start he is still bad but for those of us going to all the games Boyle has become huge for us.
I genuinely think if he leaves us it will be to England.
Cue lots of disagreement but I think over time people will see this.

I respect our view as you have obviously seen much more of these guys than I have, but I can really only go on what I have seen.

I sincerely hope that the Rovers Head Coach and Sporting Director (and whoever else makes up the transfer delegations) agree with your assessment and make no defensive signings.

White Horse
09/07/2018, 12:42 PM
Sam Byrne has joined Dundalk on an 18 month contract following his release by Everton.

Fans haven't seen much of him in his six month loan spell, but Kenny must see enough in training to offer him a deal.

https://www.dundalkfc.com/byrne-signs-permanent-contract/

oriel
09/07/2018, 1:50 PM
Dundalk also announced Marco Tagbajumi left the club today, he was on a 12 month contract. He was popular as a cult figure amongst the shed side and I`m sure he tried his best, but he was never up to the standard in my view. Although I repeat a previous post, his performance away to Rovers in the earlier season league game offered real hope he would be a very useful addition, that never seemed to be materialise and he was used less and less.

Scored 2 league goals I read earlier, one was a winner 2-0 v Waterford at home.

marinobohs
09/07/2018, 2:13 PM
eh that's not what I said at all , just that they weren't on 3k a week which I doubt anyone on the league is on but don't let what I actually said interfere with what you want to say I said :)
How's them lemons ?

Lemons ? WTF are you on ? (not 3 grand a week ;)) watts was never staying at Dalymount - it was a short term loan arrangement. Why the hell would I care what shams latest money wasting scheme is ? Fourth place never cost so much, I just find it hilarious you spoofing Watts reason for joining shams was anything other than money. One of your fellow deniers isn't even aware of Finns arrangement with Pepper (or pretends it doesn't exist).

Hopefully watts can follow the trend set by Lopez and Byrne - 3 times the wages for half the player :cool:

Mr A
09/07/2018, 2:15 PM
Big shock this one- Stephen Kenny leaves (http://galwayunitedfc.ie/stephen-kenny-departs/) by mutual consent.

Ezeikial
09/07/2018, 2:25 PM
Defence really isn't much of a problem, iv'e been more impressed with Boyle that I was with Madden he offers a lot more. Grace is one of the best center backs in the league

Boyle > Madden is a mad claim

'Tis interesting how 2 Rovers fans see Boyle and Grace in very different ways


Grace has not been in the best of form but is still a very decent CD. Ally G will be released come end of season. Not convinced on Boyle either but has had a fair few decent games of late. A decent right back is a priority.

Asterix
09/07/2018, 2:35 PM
Lemons ? WTF are you on ? (not 3 grand a week ;)) watts was never staying at Dalymount - it was a short term loan arrangement. Why the hell would I care what shams latest money wasting scheme is ? Fourth place never cost so much, I just find it hilarious you spoofing Watts reason for joining shams was anything other than money. One of your fellow deniers isn't even aware of Finns arrangement with Pepper (or pretends it doesn't exist).

Hopefully watts can follow the trend set by Lopez and Byrne - 3 times the wages for half the player :cool:

I know who finn works for, its not Pepper.

RathfarnhamHoop
09/07/2018, 2:38 PM
Lemons ? WTF are you on ? (not 3 grand a week ;)) watts was never staying at Dalymount - it was a short term loan arrangement. Why the hell would I care what shams latest money wasting scheme is ? Fourth place never cost so much, I just find it hilarious you spoofing Watts reason for joining shams was anything other than money. One of your fellow deniers isn't even aware of Finns arrangement with Pepper (or pretends it doesn't exist).

Hopefully watts can follow the trend set by Lopez and Byrne - 3 times the wages for half the player :cool:

Jesus Christ man it's no secret the club helped get finn a job but it's not with pepper.

RathfarnhamHoop
09/07/2018, 2:40 PM
Boyle > Madden is a mad claim

'Tis interesting how 2 Rovers fans see Boyle and Grace in very different ways

How is very decent "very different" to one of the best in the league, its pretty much the same thing.

sbgawa
09/07/2018, 2:48 PM
Lemons ? WTF are you on ? (not 3 grand a week ;)) watts was never staying at Dalymount - it was a short term loan arrangement. Why the hell would I care what shams latest money wasting scheme is ? Fourth place never cost so much, I just find it hilarious you spoofing Watts reason for joining shams was anything other than money. One of your fellow deniers isn't even aware of Finns arrangement with Pepper (or pretends it doesn't exist).

Hopefully watts can follow the trend set by Lopez and Byrne - 3 times the wages for half the player :cool:

This really is hilarious for a man who doesn't care :)
My fellow denier is right by the way Ronan Finn does not have a part time job (or any for that matter) with Pepper.

sbgawa
09/07/2018, 2:50 PM
Boyle > Madden is a mad claim

'Tis interesting how 2 Rovers fans see Boyle and Grace in very different ways

people often disagree on players, I think McEleney is a super player and would have loved to have signed him but I know plenty of people who think he is a luxury flat track bully. its horses for courses

On the Boyle to Madden thing I would have Boyle every day over Madden and ive seen a lot of both.

Park_Lane
09/07/2018, 2:55 PM
Boyle > Madden is a mad claim

'Tis interesting how 2 Rovers fans see Boyle and Grace in very different ways

Grace has bags of potential, he showed it last year after he transferred in. Has been short of form this year but its obvious he has the talent. I suppose not having a regular central defense partner to gel with might explain it somewhat.