2018 Transfers

[Ezeikial]

Didn't Mannus leave right as Shamrock Rovers played in the Europa League? Bad timing. Obviously there was better money etc, but still.Hopefully, his return will be better timed, given the recent mishaps between the sticks at the club.

He left Rovers after helping them through to the next round of the Europa league by invoking a clause in his contract that allowed him to leave to a UK club

He should be a good addition to them even if he will be available for only the last 12 league games

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/14231886

[mcgonigle]

They may stay up yet....

[Longfordian]

He must be about 37 now he’s not guaranteed to be as good as he was. Admittedly I haven’t seen him play lately though so maybe he is.

[Asterix]

35 and still st johnstone's number 1. Doesn't look like they want him to leave either, their fans seem upset too based on twitter.

[Charlie Darwin]

Didn't Mannus leave right as Shamrock Rovers played in the Europa League? Bad timing. Obviously there was better money etc, but still.Hopefully, his return will be better timed, given the recent mishaps between the sticks at the club.
He got to spend seven years in Scotland earning multiples of what he ever could have earned here. It was crap for us but clearly a career move he couldn't turn down, and at the time i doubt anyone predicted we'd make the groups.

[Ezeikial]

He must be about 37 now he’s not guaranteed to be as good as he was. Admittedly I haven’t seen him play lately though so maybe he is.

According to his Wiki entry he will be 36 in May and appears to have been first choice for St Johnstone in recent matches.
I think that this he is likely to solve the goalkeeping catastrophe when he eventually plays.

Hopefully this ray of optimism shining in the distance will be enough to encourage the Rovers decision makers to keep their powder dry on managerial changes.

#4moreyears

[Charlie Darwin]

You know he has a twitter account Ezekiel? So even if he is sacked you'll still have a place to find his unfiltered thoughts 24/7.

[Ezeikial]

You know he has a twitter account Ezekiel? So even if he is sacked you'll still have a place to find his unfiltered thoughts 24/7.

That is a thought too terrible to contemplate.

[Nesta99]

Would it have been wiser not to announce this signing until closer to July? There are 2 keepers at the club that have to be kept motivated for the 12 matches or so and this will hardly help their battered confidence. Maybe professional pride might even have them up their game but its hardly man management at its best. If its partly PR to calm the restless in Tallaght its not just a manager feeling under pressure but a board too as surely they could have kept it under wraps knowing a problem area was being sorted by the manager.

As for why Mannus would opt to leave leave a likely lucrative contract extension from an SPL club where he is highly regarded by the supporters....well kitchen sink and all that!! It's made for Mannus to scuff a backpass in to his own net on his return debut lol :eek:

[Charlie Darwin]

Would it have been wiser not to announce this signing until closer to July? There are 2 keepers at the club that have to be kept motivated for the 12 matches or so and this will hardly help their battered confidence. Maybe professional pride might even have them up their game but its hardly man management at its best. If its partly PR to calm the restless in Tallaght its not just a manager feeling under pressure but a board too as surely they could have kept it under wraps knowing a problem area was being sorted by the manager.

As for why Mannus would opt to leave leave a likely lucrative contract extension from an SPL club where he is highly regarded by the supporters....well kitchen sink and all that!! It's made for Mannus to scuff a backpass in to his own net on his return debut lol :eek:
The papers had already basically announced it. Plus the club needs a bit of positive news to put out given the results of the past week and a bit.

[Nesta99]

Papers wouldnt have known if it wasnt about PR, sure look how Dundalk kept things quiet in the past.

On my travels home so today's musings on the Shamrock Rovers soap opera.....

Naw I think its an own goal, pardon the pun, as even Mannus will be under pressure from the getgo. Fans will expect things to be 2011 in one signing and there isnt fantastic quality across the back four that will be in front of Mannus as things stand. He will have to build up a rapport with the players very quickly to meet expectation of a quick fix. A better PR tactic from the board would be to back a young manager by reaffirming that this is a longer term building process with vagueries of key signings to come in. Have the manager consider better what is said to the media that can come back and bite - maybe a bit late but keeping expectations (officially) lower than privately wanted and when things do click like with a run to the cup final highight that progress.

Its all mixed messages at the moment eg giving a young manager a long term contract, focusing on bringing through young players, constant talk about an academy and youth (while not necessarily directly meant in relation to the 1st team now it is giving that impression outside the Rovers fold), then there was the talk about challenging followed by 'never said that' type stuff. Comments like 'their cup final' about a side that already have beaten you; I'm sure Ezeikial could give far better examples!
If it had been 'the young lads lost concentration and they will learn that you cant' after the 1st Bohs game, stick to that and not do the 'their cup final' stuff, We drew with Dundalk and could have beaten them 2nd game against them and were definitely worth a point after hitting the crossbar followed by a cliché like cutting out individual errors and things will improve rather than seeming to single out areas by dropping players and undermine confidence. Such clichéd waffle is used by managers the world over for a reason and Bradly should stick to script which is easier than trying some mind game stuff (same could apply to SK on an occasion).
Waterford was a 10 man display for 80 odd minutes, a debatable red card too and could have gotten something. SK was saying that the recent Bray match was possibly the toughest so far and that general thinking was expressed on Orielweb prior to the game and we were delighted to get the 3 points - Bradley should have been quicker noting that and saying as much beforehand and emphasising the boost signing a new manager can have.

I think Bradly can reasonably feel that lady luck has deserted him and he could be about 5pts better off as there isnt a whole lot a manager could do about Finn's pass, or a 99th minute winner (I dont know who caused the trouble that caused the game to be stopped but if it was home support Bradley should be well annoyed as at least a point looked safe), injuries to Clarke etc. Gilchrist was rash for the first card in the RSC but the second at normal speed it just looked like he lost his footing and was falling over not pulling the player back, he wasnt last man either but it was 50/50 that went against. Bradley was quite low key prior to the game in Oriel, much calmer on the sideline and it was the most composed and confident Rovers performance in a while. A deserved result in that game and Rovers would have been less brittle in subsequent games imo.

Its like the board(+fans) thought that the team was strengthened which is true really but didnt consider that Cork, Dundalk, Derry will have pushed on again and Waterford starting off like a top 4 side so 'the gap' stays roughly the same and its then a mix of back tracking and binning the longer term strategy with pointing the finger at the inexperienced manager for not addressing areas like getting a keeper in. Rovers tendency to be a retirement home for some crocked high profile players is all PR but has it been much advantage to the club? In terms of having such high profile former players on the coaching staff is certainly positive PR with parents having their heads turned but player budget going on the Joey O'Briens would be better spent throwing the kitchen sink and signing a Dan Cleary. Im still baffled by the way Simon Madden was let go, was there any falling out, did Rovers fans have issue at the time with the decision or is it retrospective now? Bradley obviously thought the keepers he had were good enough, Horgan has shown that he can do ok as if the pressure is off him, certainly as an attacking force the squad isnt miles behind anyone. Mannus would improve most if not all squads if he is still the clibre of keeper he was last time round. Its a bit of a panic signing unless it was a case of biding until he was available and hoping a young lad like Horgan will step up sufficiently. If its a hefty outlay in wages it would make Rovers the 6th highest wage bill in the league then....For Rovers fans, assuming this wasnt the planned for signing all along as part of overall squad development it would have to be considered that its a shift away from the rigid wage structure considering players released, players not signed even though seemingly wanted pre season. Fans would hardly believe the line that the manager had room in his budget rather than funds being freed for unforeseen circumstances, if any line is being pushed. Maybe Rovers fans dont care just at the moment as long as something was done? The wage structure is a particular point of pride though!?

Sure as a Rovers obsessed Dundalk fan give me both the CEO and managers jobs as I have all the answers!!:D I promise i'd handle with care!!! :)

Its so much easier to be nice and fair minded when a team are not a threat...watch out Derry City! How quiet has Kenny Sheils been sneaking up under the radar, lose Friday night and the dugouts in Oriel are in for it

[Ezeikial]

You shouldn't go travelling

[Nesta99]

You shouldn't go travelling

Ah it killed some time hanging around an airport though using a phone if it even resembles english its an achievement! lol

[colonelwest]

Papers wouldnt have known if it wasnt about PR, sure look how Dundalk kept things quiet in the past.

On my travels home so today's musings on the Shamrock Rovers soap opera.....

Naw I think its an own goal, pardon the pun, as even Mannus will be under pressure from the getgo. Fans will expect things to be 2011 in one signing and there isnt fantastic quality across the back four that will be in front of Mannus as things stand. He will have to build up a rapport with the players very quickly to meet expectation of a quick fix. A better PR tactic from the board would be to back a young manager by reaffirming that this is a longer term building process with vagueries of key signings to come in. Have the manager consider better what is said to the media that can come back and bite - maybe a bit late but keeping expectations (officially) lower than privately wanted and when things do click like with a run to the cup final highight that progress.

Its all mixed messages at the moment eg giving a young manager a long term contract, focusing on bringing through young players, constant talk about an academy and youth (while not necessarily directly meant in relation to the 1st team now it is giving that impression outside the Rovers fold), then there was the talk about challenging followed by 'never said that' type stuff. Comments like 'their cup final' about a side that already have beaten you; I'm sure Ezeikial could give far better examples!
If it had been 'the young lads lost concentration and they will learn that you cant' after the 1st Bohs game, stick to that and not do the 'their cup final' stuff, We drew with Dundalk and could have beaten them 2nd game against them and were definitely worth a point after hitting the crossbar followed by a cliché like cutting out individual errors and things will improve rather than seeming to single out areas by dropping players and undermine confidence. Such clichéd waffle is used by managers the world over for a reason and Bradly should stick to script which is easier than trying some mind game stuff (same could apply to SK on an occasion).
Waterford was a 10 man display for 80 odd minutes, a debatable red card too and could have gotten something. SK was saying that the recent Bray match was possibly the toughest so far and that general thinking was expressed on Orielweb prior to the game and we were delighted to get the 3 points - Bradley should have been quicker noting that and saying as much beforehand and emphasising the boost signing a new manager can have.

I think Bradly can reasonably feel that lady luck has deserted him and he could be about 5pts better off as there isnt a whole lot a manager could do about Finn's pass, or a 99th minute winner (I dont know who caused the trouble that caused the game to be stopped but if it was home support Bradley should be well annoyed as at least a point looked safe), injuries to Clarke etc. Gilchrist was rash for the first card in the RSC but the second at normal speed it just looked like he lost his footing and was falling over not pulling the player back, he wasnt last man either but it was 50/50 that went against. Bradley was quite low key prior to the game in Oriel, much calmer on the sideline and it was the most composed and confident Rovers performance in a while. A deserved result in that game and Rovers would have been less brittle in subsequent games imo.

Its like the board(+fans) thought that the team was strengthened which is true really but didnt consider that Cork, Dundalk, Derry will have pushed on again and Waterford starting off like a top 4 side so 'the gap' stays roughly the same and its then a mix of back tracking and binning the longer term strategy with pointing the finger at the inexperienced manager for not addressing areas like getting a keeper in. Rovers tendency to be a retirement home for some crocked high profile players is all PR but has it been much advantage to the club? In terms of having such high profile former players on the coaching staff is certainly positive PR with parents having their heads turned but player budget going on the Joey O'Briens would be better spent throwing the kitchen sink and signing a Dan Cleary. Im still baffled by the way Simon Madden was let go, was there any falling out, did Rovers fans have issue at the time with the decision or is it retrospective now? Bradley obviously thought the keepers he had were good enough, Horgan has shown that he can do ok as if the pressure is off him, certainly as an attacking force the squad isnt miles behind anyone. Mannus would improve most if not all squads if he is still the clibre of keeper he was last time round. Its a bit of a panic signing unless it was a case of biding until he was available and hoping a young lad like Horgan will step up sufficiently. If its a hefty outlay in wages it would make Rovers the 6th highest wage bill in the league then....For Rovers fans, assuming this wasnt the planned for signing all along as part of overall squad development it would have to be considered that its a shift away from the rigid wage structure considering players released, players not signed even though seemingly wanted pre season. Fans would hardly believe the line that the manager had room in his budget rather than funds being freed for unforeseen circumstances, if any line is being pushed. Maybe Rovers fans dont care just at the moment as long as something was done? The wage structure is a particular point of pride though!?

Sure as a Rovers obsessed Dundalk fan give me both the CEO and managers jobs as I have all the answers!! I promise i'd handle with care!!!

Its so much easier to be nice and fair minded when a team are not a threat...watch out Derry City! How quiet has Kenny Sheils been sneaking up under the radar, lose Friday night and the dugouts in Oriel are in for it


PARKLIFE

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(Sorry Nesta, had to be done! :D)

[Nesta99]

Fair cop1 lol

[GC13]

This should really restore the confidence of Horgan and Chencinski over the next 10 weeks before Mannus arrives

Too true, isn't he doing his Pro licence at the moment? the A licence and his precursor to the Pro has tasks and assessments based on competencies in the areas of Football Knowledge; Management; Use of Technology; Psychology; Personal Presentation & Media Skills, hard to understand why some of these area's were not introduced into play, bit of an own goal! There is learning to be had for someone who reflects on their planning; timing and having good people to discuss with, the reality is its a PR disaster and very unfair on Horgan and Chencinski.
Interesting to see what outcome it has on the squad, so anyone any thoughts on who's out next as the transfer window looms in the distance?

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Too true, isn't he doing his Pro licence at the moment? the A licence and his precursor to the Pro has tasks and assessments based on competencies in the areas of Football Knowledge; Management; Use of Technology; Psychology; Personal Presentation & Media Skills, hard to understand why some of these area's were not introduced into play, bit of an own goal! There is learning to be had for someone who reflects on their planning; timing and having good people to discuss with, the reality is its a PR disaster and very unfair on Horgan and Chencinski.
Interesting to see what outcome it has on the squad, so anyone any thoughts on who's out next as the transfer window looms in the distance?





Youd assume the two keepers were told before it was made public and you'd hope Alan coming in would encourage them to work harder rather than dent their confidence. Also I'd say Rovers had to move quickly to get him and once the deals done it's probably better to publicise it yourself than have it leak out when it comes to player management

[brendy_éire]

Ronan Curtis confirmed for Portsmouth, come the mid-season break. No mention of how much for, but we hear £100k to add-ons.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44208821

[El-Pietro]

Ronan Curtis confirmed for Portsmouth, come the mid-season break. No mention of how much for, but we hear £100k to add-ons.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44208821

Will he play for you before his transfer or is he effectively gone now?

[brendy_éire]

Will he play for you before his transfer or is he effectively gone now?

He signed it before last night's game, so hopefully will continue to play. Nothing official though.

[sbgawa]

He signed it before last night's game, so hopefully will continue to play. Nothing official though.

It said 9th of June in one of the papers which seemed a bit random unless Portsmouth want him to have a break..

[ArFella]

It said 9th of June in one of the papers which seemed a bit random unless Portsmouth want him to have a break..

June 9th is the date the international transfer window opens in England, so he doesn't officially become a Portsmouth player until then. He is a Derry player until that transfer goes through and as such he is obliged to play for them, Portsmouth could delay his official transfer to them for another month, as Preston did with Sean Maguire, but it seems unlikely at this point.

[nigel-harps1954]

Under the radar slightly, but Harps signed Mikey Place, formerly of Sligo and Derry.

[Olé Olé]

Stephen Dooley has signed for Rochdale.

[nigel-harps1954]

Waterford confirm the signing of Noel Hunt as player/assistant manager

[Mr A]

That's like a classic football manager signing where you use the coaching role to get a player you wouldn't otherwise :)

[Ezeikial]

That's like a classic football manager signing where you use the coaching role to get a player you wouldnb't otherwise :)

Moving to his home town club probably a factor, although at 35 unlikely to have been inundated with lucrative playing only contracts.

[marinobohs]

Moving to his home town club probably a factor, although at 35 unlikely to have been inundated with lucrative playing only contracts.

chance for him to pass on his experience, get his badges and maybe chip in a few goals at the business end of the season. seems like a win / win to me.

[Ezeikial]

chance for him to pass on his experience, get his badges and maybe chip in a few goals at the business end of the season. seems like a win / win to me.

All new signings tend to seem like a win/win to both parties at the outset. Time will tell how much impact he will have on the playing side

[nigel-harps1954]

Time will tell how much impact he will have on the playing side

One start for Wigan in the season just past. 12 sub appearances, and only one goal. That one start and one goal was in the Checkatrade trophy.

It's hard to see him having a huge impact in a playing capacity. With only 9 goals in the past six seasons in all competitions he's hardly going to be the goalscorer they'll need if Duffus goes back to England.

Nevertheless, he should have a decent impact on the dressing room and should get a few bums on seats for his first game or two.

[brendy_éire]

Dean Shiels has signed for one and a half years for ourselves from Dunfermline.
Older, bigger (than what we have) players are exactly what we need.

[Ezeikial]

Dean Shiels has signed for one and a half years for ourselves from Dunfermline.
Older, bigger (than what we have) players are exactly what we need.

Older for sure, but he is far from physically imposing. Should be a good addition

[White Horse]

I thought Shiels did well in his limited game time at Dundalk in 2016. He didn't look out of place in a very good good team.

[Nesta99]

It's exatly the sort of signing Derry need. Good player, experienced head and Derry will be that bit less brittle when going a goal down as he doesnt shy away in adversity!

[colonelwest]

Garvan's left Pats according to their Facebook there now, bit of a strange one unless he's moving back across the water/ fell out with Bucko or something?

[TonyD]

Garvan's left Pats according to their Facebook there now, bit of a strange one unless he's moving back across the water/ fell out with Bucko or something?

There were rumours of a falling out on our forum a while back, not sure how true they were. Pity he's gone, will be a loss I feel.

[desaintsno.12]

will be a loss I feel.

find this part a bit strange but think i am in the minority..... his game time since he joined has been poor to say the least. He is also one of the most immobile players I have seen in the centre of the park. My only concern with him leaving is how much we wasted this year and if we had to pay him off at all.

[TonyD]

find this part a bit strange but think i am in the minority..... his game time since he joined has been poor to say the least. He is also one of the most immobile players I have seen in the centre of the park. My only concern with him leaving is how much we wasted this year and if we had to pay him off at all.

I think you are in the minority. He was excellent on the ball, didn't give away possession. Also, I don't think he was as immobile as he looked. He has a very gammy looking run I'll grant you, but he mostly got where he needed to be.

[desaintsno.12]

I think you are in the minority. He was excellent on the ball, didn't give away possession. Also, I don't think he was as immobile as he looked. He has a very gammy looking run I'll grant you, but he mostly got where he needed to be.

absolutely top talent, especially in this league. I just mean due to him being croked/refusing to play, his contribution , especially this year has been minimal and therefor not a massive loss.

[nr637]

Micheal Schlingermann is now available after leaving Sligo Rovers, decent keeper and highly rated, heard Cork City were interested early on in the close season.

[micls]

Micheal Schlingermann is now available after leaving Sligo Rovers, decent keeper and highly rated, heard Cork City were interested early on in the close season.

We took Cherrie instead though. Unless Cherrie was moving on, it wouldn't happen. Not sure schlingermann is much of an upgrade.

[colonelwest]

Damien Delaney signs for Cork!

[osarusan]

Has anybody else seen the AS Roma English twitter feed announce the Delaney signing? If you scroll down, there is mention of him saving the son of a Roma directer from a serious accident in London some time. The same account also tweeted Grazie Damien when he left Crystal Palace.

No idea if it is a genuine twitter account, although it does have the 'verified' tick beside it.

https://twitter.com/ASRomaEN/status/1005095204389642240

[El-Pietro]

Has anybody else seen the AS Roma English twitter feed announce the Delaney signing? If you scroll down, there is mention of him saving the son of a Roma directer from a serious accident in London some time. The same account also tweeted Grazie Damien when he left Crystal Palace.

No idea if it is a genuine twitter account, although it does have the 'verified' tick beside it.

https://twitter.com/ASRomaEN/status/1005095204389642240

Its genuine alright. 227k followers along with that tick. I've heard that story before, it popped up on our forum at the time as Delaney is an ex (and now current) City player.

[El-Pietro]

We now have the option to field the youngest (McCarthy and McLoughlin; combined age of 41) and the oldest (Bennett and Delaney; combined age of 73 as of July 20th) centre half pairing in the league.

[sulywaterfordfc]

Akinade and Hery sign contract extensions till the end of 2019. Hery is signing a new deal is huge for the club fantastic player.

[Pablo Escobar]

Damien Delaney press conference

https://youtu.be/RTBJnHQmCJk

[ToberonaTornado]

https://www.pnefc.net/news/2018/june/preston-north-end-complete-signing-of-shamrock-rovers-graham-burke/


Preston North End Complete Signing Of Shamrock Rovers’ Graham Burke

[ToberonaTornado]

....and Mikey Drennan signs for Sligo Rovers.......welcome back lad.

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Been too busy to post here recently but couldn't help myself from coming to say I'm delighted for Mikey, loved him at rovers and it's great to see him back in the game no matter the club