Player eligibility row

[ArdeeBhoy]

Obviously you didn't read the phrase, 'warts and all'. One thing you'll always outdo us on, is Paranoia! ;)

And don't wish especially to refute your view, but just in case it's not understood, should you have the time and inclination you can explain to OWB directly your exact logic and reasoning. Though I fear it may be a thankless task.
If you read their posts, like the 'illustrious' EG, the 'b' word and worse is scattered about, though to be fair, not by yourself.

[Not Brazil]

And don't wish especially to refute your view, but just in case it's not understood, should you have the time and inclination you can explain to OWB directly your exact logic and reasoning. Though I fear it may be a thankless task.


I have expressed my views on the (numerous) eligibility threads on OWC at length, explaining both my logic and reasoning.

Are you now accepting of the fact that the majority of posters on OWC do not dispute that Duffy is eligible for the Republic Of Ireland?

[ArdeeBhoy]

Yeah, you have! Which are mainly fine. And would accept a minority of the North's fans accept Duffy's eligibility. So what?

[dantheman]

The issue is clearly not whether Duffy is eligible or not, its a case of HOW he is eligible. The majority of the OWC fans seem to think its because of his Donegal parent, which is of course true.
But the reality is that he is eligible due to being born in NI. Just like David Healy, Ian Paisley, George Seawright and Ealing Green (in order of increasing bigotry...) Once the OWC fans take the red pill instead of the blue pill (and not the red, whit & blue pill), they can approach the FAI directly to attempt to negotiate with the honest & trustworthy John Delaney to see how any remaining minor issues can be resolved.

On another note, here is a proposed map of a few FAI training camps that could be set up in the North, once this nasty CAS business is sorted out.

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4679/trainingcamps.jpg


The proposed locations are:

Derry
Omagh
Enniskillen
Armagh
Newcastle/Downpatrick
Cookstown/Magherafelt
Ballycastle
West Belfast

This would allow a solid network of poachers to kidnap children, in a sectarian manner of course.

I edging towards Downpatrick over Newcastle as there is a maternity hospital there so we can start poaching from birth.
No point waiting until primary school if Nigel's about, he'll have them playing in the U21's by that stage!

[ArdeeBhoy]

But wouldn't they then refer to us as travellers, gypsies or even the 'k' word, if we went round setting up training encampments everywhere??

[dantheman]

But wouldn't they then refer to us as travellers, gypsies or even the 'k' word, if we went round setting up training encampments everywhere??

Oul Nige will be capping Catholic sperm next!

[Not Brazil]

And would accept a minority of the North's fans accept Duffy's eligibility. So what?

So, you maintain that a majority of Northern Ireland fans think that Duffy is not eligible to play for the Republic Of Ireland, under current Statutes?

Is this based on fact, or a trait of paranoia on your part?:D

I have spoken with many, many Northern Ireland fans on the issue of eligibility - I have yet to meet one who doesn't accept that Duffy is eligible, as Statutes stand, to represent the Republic Of Ireland.

That is not to confuse the diappointment/anger of many that he switched - but that's a different discussion.

[co. down green]

The issue is clearly not whether Duffy is eligible or not, its a case of HOW he is eligible. The majority of the OWC fans seem to think its because of his Donegal parent, which is of course true.
But the reality is that he is eligible due to being born in NI. Just like David Healy, Ian Paisley, George Seawright and Ealing Green (in order of increasing bigotry...) Once the OWC fans take the red pill instead of the blue pill (and not the red, whit & blue pill), they can approach the FAI directly to attempt to negotiate with the honest & trustworthy John Delaney to see how any remaining minor issues can be resolved.

On another note, here is a proposed map of a few FAI training camps that could be set up in the North, once this nasty CAS business is sorted out.

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4679/trainingcamps.jpg


The proposed locations are:

Derry
Omagh
Enniskillen
Armagh
Newcastle/Downpatrick
Cookstown/Magherafelt
Ballycastle
West Belfast

This would allow a solid network of poachers to kidnap children, in a sectarian manner of course.

I edging towards Downpatrick over Newcastle as there is a maternity hospital there so we can start poaching from birth.
No point waiting until primary school if Nigel's about, he'll have them playing in the U21's by that stage!

:) lol

[seanfhear]

If either or both teams had qualified for the world cup do you think this topic would be so busy at this time. I blame somebody ! ! !

[Sullivinho]

But the reality is that he is eligible due to being born in NI.

Crux of the matter right there.

The entitlement that exists for people born in 'Northern Ireland' to Irish citizenship and players born there to represent Ireland is a validation of the fact that despite being born within the confines of a British border and living within British occupied territory, these people have every right to dispute and reject those impositions. In the case of football players, neglecting to play for the representative team of the territory is one, very visible way that rejection is manifested. A team so rich in British trappings, even the customary nod to her majesty's welfare is included before a ball is kicked. Fortunately, there exists another team on the island that further validates their position. One which in theory, could feature one representative from every region of the island in a 32 man squad. This team would obviously be the first choice of an Irish citizen, be they players or supporters. All of which leads to a perceived imbalance and great angst for the IFA and their supporters. But it isn't the FAI who are the architects of their ire, rather the means that exist to alleviate and/or accomodate a historical injustice that continues to intrude upon the identities of a large group of people. Challenging those means is disingenuous at best.

Every time I see the title of this thread, I'm reminded how much of a misnomer it is. It may as well be titled 'Should we stop recruiting Irish players'.

[Charlie Darwin]

I still think it's odd that Duffy's registration is being held up by this case. I know it's a moot point since he got injured, but I don't really get why since there was never any question over his entitlement to switch his registration. Perhaps the FAI/Duffy just left it too late to initiate the switch?

[geysir]

Anyone who trusts Bl*tter, FIFA or the other dubious characters involved are more naive than a class of infants if they reckon that's an end to it.
Who said anything about trusting Blatter, I am merely quoting the man and what he said is supported by FIFA actions on the issue.
If you can find one dubious eligibility case after 2004 to support your views, then please present it.
Otherwise - wise up. :)

[Gather round]

But the reality is that he is eligible due to being born in NI. Just like David Healy, Ian Paisley, George Seawright and Ealing Green

Wasn't George a Glaswegian? He certainly sounded like one.


living within British occupied territory...A team so rich in British trappings...there exists another team on the island that further validates their position. One which in theory, could feature one representative from every region of the island in a 32 man squad...It may as well be titled 'Should we stop recruiting Irish players'

Where did you get all that from, the Ladybird book of cartoon Provo cliches? If Trap named a 32 man squad there'd probably be players from Scotland, Wales, NI, England and maybe even Germany in it.

[Sullivinho]

Where did you get all that from, the Ladybird book of cartoon Provo cliches?

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/1381/jesuswept.jpg


If Trap named a 32 man squad there'd probably be players from Scotland, Wales, NI, England and maybe even Germany in it.


One which in theory, could feature one representative from every region of the island in a 32 man squad.

'In theory, Lady Gaga could walk on the moon'
'In theory, OJ was innocent.'
'In theory, Norn Iron could qualify for another World Cup'.

etc.

Possibility never submitting to likelihood of course ;)

[EalingGreen]

Agree the banner is a joke btwHaven't got time to post much at present*, but I thought I'd take a moment to congratulate you on getting at least one thing right - the banner was most definitely a joke. Which is why so many people thought it funny. And speaking of "funny", I'll just share this little gem which someone brought to my attention earlier today:

"11 - The Republic of Ireland were penalised more often for handball than any other team in the European WorldCup qualifiers"
http://twitter.com/optajoe


* - But like Arnie: "I'll Be Back"

[ArdeeBhoy]

So, you maintain that a majority of Northern Ireland fans think that Duffy is not eligible to play for the Republic Of Ireland, under current Statutes?

Is this based on fact, or a trait of paranoia on your part?

I have spoken with many, many Northern Ireland fans on the issue of eligibility - I have yet to meet one who doesn't accept that Duffy is eligible, as Statutes stand, to represent the Republic Of Ireland.

You can speak for a majority better than me, but frankly not really bothered anymore what they think 'per se', based on the 'facts' in their collective hostile and paranoid ramblings on OWB towards Duffy and any other nationalist who wants to play for their country....of which various don't seem to have your more reasoned approach??

Personally have no paranoia towards the North, except with certain embittered 'blow-in' locals to largely refuse to accept the indigenous population's right to assert their own culture! Which maybe you'd also like to deny??


Who said anything about trusting Blatter, I am merely quoting the man and what he said is supported by FIFA actions on the issue.
If you can find one dubious eligibility case after 2004 to support your views, then please present it.

There are various examples, largely involving Africans and South Americans playing for various Europeans teams (& articles on how 'easy' it is to switch nationality!!); just search via Google!
Bl*tter is a **** and he couldn't run the proverbial drink-up in a brewery.


If Trap named a 32 man squad there'd probably be players from Scotland, Wales, NI, England and maybe even Germany in it.
No he'd probably find 32 Irish citizens, unlike a certain British colony who seem to be unsustainably relying on passing Germans?
Anyway, WD besides, don't you have more pressing arrangements of a monetary nature to deal with........


Haven't got time to post much at present, but I thought I'd take a moment to congratulate you on getting at least one thing right - the banner was most definitely a joke.
"11 - The Republic of Ireland were penalised more often for handball than any other team in the European WorldCup qualifiers"
http://twitter.com/optajoe
May we be grateful for that. ;) The banner was indeed a joke, albeit a poor one outside France ! :rolleyes:

As for Opta, having visited their offices and known their staff would hardly say they were the most reliable judges, but perhaps it's our natural GAA inclination?? ;)
What was the other fella's excuse anyway?? Still karma will arrive shortly.

[geysir]

Hurry back, can't wait to read the next installment of what is appreciated as intelligent thought amongst the owc. Though I suspect that there are a few in the OWC who have copped on and regard you as little more valuable that an overinflated buffoon.

For years this Ealing Green has been presenting toilet rolls of garbage on FIFA eligibility. This lad has presented the most moronic posts on the eligibility issues, day after day, week after week, month after month. Not once has this lad ever got it, even when it was explained in excruciatingly minute detail - he would bounce back the next day as ignorant as he was the day before.
I thought it was miraculous that one could be so intelligently pigheaded and avoid the rational thought process with such determination. It is indeed a difficult achievement.
But here he is again, fully replete with a memory wipe out of any previous discussion, a wipe out of any written FIFA statue, here he is inventing the premise as if he was Moses coming down from the mountain.
Please note that this merry trickster will avoid the core issue and deflect at will. He stands alone as the most dishonest poster in a debate as ever I have experienced on Footie.
I have debated with many here and disagreed with some but I can't recall any poster actually being purposely contrary, purposely avoiding the core issue, purposely ignoring established accepted facts and instead creating an argument based on an invention and presenting it as fact.
Quite simply this Ealing Green is an utter fraud and has not got an ounce of sincerity in learning.

Imagine the absolute sheer deluded arrogance of the man to come here after all these years of and think he has a morsel of sense to offer on the eligibility issue.

[Sullivinho]

Not once has this lad ever got it, even when it was explained in excruciatingly minute detail - he would bounce back the next day as ignorant as he was the day before.

Roll on July 19th.

Hopefully it won't be just the IFA who are enlightened.

[ifk101]

Haven't got time to post much at present*, but I thought I'd take a moment to congratulate you on getting at least one thing right - the banner was most definitely a joke. Which is why so many people thought it funny. And speaking of "funny", I'll just share this little gem which someone brought to my attention earlier today:

"11 - The Republic of Ireland were penalised more often for handball than any other team in the European WorldCup qualifiers"
http://twitter.com/optajoe


* - But like Arnie: "I'll Be Back"

Arnie??? While foot.ie awaits your next wave of denial and rebuttal, I would suggest that Comcial Ali is a far more apt persona for you to take EalingGreen.

http://theliberati.net/quaequamblog/wp-content/comical_ali.jpg

[Not Brazil]

Personally have no paranoia towards the North, except with certain embittered 'blow-in' locals to largely refuse to accept the indigenous population's right to assert their own culture! Which maybe you'd also like to deny??


Should Nick Griffin ever step down, get an application in.

You know all the right words.

[dantheman]

Wasn't George a Glaswegian? He certainly sounded like one.

That he was!


Haven't got time to post much at present*, but I thought I'd take a moment to congratulate you on getting at least one thing right - the banner was most definitely a joke. Which is why so many people thought it funny. And speaking of "funny", I'll just share this little gem which someone brought to my attention earlier today:

"11 - The Republic of Ireland were penalised more often for handball than any other team in the European WorldCup qualifiers"
http://twitter.com/optajoe


* - But like Arnie: "I'll Be Back"

Ah but sure, all I said was true.
No rush getting back. When you do respond, just as now, nothing will have changed. :D
All NI-born players will be eligible to play for the Republic, should they wish.

[Gather round]

More FAI training camps:

http://s827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/outline.jpg

Unfortunately, I don't have data for every English, Scottish and Welsh local government area breaking down the number of Irish Republic passport holders/ grandsons of de aspora/ owners of Riverdance downloads, but you can keep the map for your kids to use as an advent calendar at Xmas.

[Junior]

A Misrepresentation of the facts. Kevin Kilbane is not from London............

[gspain]

More FAI training camps:

http://s827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/outline.jpg

Unfortunately, I don't have data for every English, Scottish and Welsh local government area breaking down the number of Irish Republic passport holders/ grandsons of de aspora/ owners of Riverdance downloads, but you can keep the map for your kids to use as an advent calendar at Xmas.

The words pot kettle and black come to mind.

I believe the FAI are setting up camps in Zambia, Norway, Canada and Germany among others to poach your players.

[dantheman]

Here's the IFA Zambian training camp:

http://www.ulster.ac.uk/news/images/africas-orange-order.jpg

[ArdeeBhoy]

Unfortunately, I don't have data for every English, Scottish and Welsh local government area breaking down the number of Irish Republic passport holders/ grandsons of de aspora/ owners of Riverdance downloads, but you can keep the map for your kids to use as an advent calendar at Xmas.
Could you contact the major news agencies next time you post, just in case you ever mention something either accurate or amusing?? ;)
Obviously the word 'diaspora' :rolleyes: has escaped you in both its spelling and meaning and if you can ever find an 'Irish Republic' passport, let the rest of the world know!
And there are now only 7 days in December?? Still in the unionist 'revisionist' calendar, the month of March does tend to rather go on.....

Like said upthread there are more pressing matters, financial and medical, for you to attend to....

[Den Perry]

Haven't got time to post much at present*, but I thought I'd take a moment to congratulate you on getting at least one thing right - the banner was most definitely a joke. Which is why so many people thought it funny. And speaking of "funny", I'll just share this little gem which someone brought to my attention earlier today:

"11 - The Republic of Ireland were penalised more often for handball than any other team in the European WorldCup qualifiers"
http://twitter.com/optajoe


* - But like Arnie: "I'll Be Back"

Don't bother, you're a nuisance

[Drumcondra 69er]

Here's the IFA Zambian training camp:

http://www.ulster.ac.uk/news/images/africas-orange-order.jpg

:D:good:

Post of the thread so far!

[TrapAPony]

Here's the IFA Zambian training camp:

http://www.ulster.ac.uk/news/images/africas-orange-order.jpg




The next Jeff & Jim Whitley are in there somewhere. ;)

[Junior]

More FAI training camps:

http://s827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/outline.jpg

Unfortunately, I don't have data for every English, Scottish and Welsh local government area breaking down the number of Irish Republic passport holders/ grandsons of de aspora/ owners of Riverdance downloads, but you can keep the map for your kids to use as an advent calendar at Xmas.

Eh? Where did Kevin go? The little Knacker must have upped sticks and headed North from London.........

[Sullivinho]

More FAI training camps:

....

It's been done. (http://foot.ie/threads/132063-Should-we-stop-recruiting-NI-players?p=1366845&viewfull=1#post1366845) But good effort.

[dantheman]

It's been done. (http://foot.ie/threads/132063-Should-we-stop-recruiting-NI-players?p=1366845&viewfull=1#post1366845) But good effort.

Here's another (http://maps.google.ie/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=110542801623258514037.000488ac24e11a5d4d80f&ll=27.994401,-18.984375&spn=120.285455,226.054688&z=2) map of the dias-prod-a:

[co. down green]

I always find it amusing when the North’s supporters go on about the number players born outside the island who play for Ireland.

Its almost as though they get amnesia when reading through their own underage squads.

Seeing as maps are the popular medium at the moment, here’s one showing some of the Birthplace’s of the north’s current u17 to u21 squads, i'm sure their are more English born players in the current squads, maybe even a few Zambians or Germans.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/444/map6.jpg

[Sullivinho]

Its almost as though they get amnesia when reading through their own underage squads.

Such an ability takes years of practice.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7227/headinsand.jpg

[kingdomkerry]

As we are on the subject of maps..........see below

[kingdomkerry]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_X3qgX1zX2Hs/S444swkQdxI/AAAAAAAAAoU/Mz7Xs9_yHac/s400/NI+0+to+4.JPG

Map 4: those between 0 and 4 years of age at the time of the 2001 census:

http://nireland2001.webs.com/

This was at the time of the 2001 census so this is where all the 13 year olds an younger are situated now if sombody wants to draw training camps on it.

[kingdomkerry]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_X3qgX1zX2Hs/S444sgp9O0I/AAAAAAAAAoM/P3FUGSWsicI/s400/NI+over+75.JPG

Map 3: those over 75 years of age at the time of the 2001 census:

If we ever want to do an over 75 Ireland team (aka father ted) this map is better to allow us to set up training camps.

[ifk101]

I always find it amusing when the North’s supporters go on about the number players born outside the island who play for Ireland.

Yes that criticism always brings a smile considering there's a long list of players the IFA has approached only to be turned down. We currently have a number of senior internationals that will attest to that. Nigel's planned recruitment drive of established professionals has failed so the focus is now on recruiting kids that don't know better.

[dantheman]

http://picasion.com/pic24/fdef0c95178f155b582c17fb19cacb91.gif (http://picasion.com/pic24/fdef0c95178f155b582c17fb19cacb91.gif)

Animated GIFs are great. Shows the tide going out.

What I cannot understand is what is going on in parts of West Tyrone. There seem to be a few house swaps going on!!

[co. down green]

I forgot about our own former Ireland u16 international John (Johnny) Gorman who is playing for the North, now added.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1121/image001vti.jpg

[Predator]

* - But like Arnie: "I'll Be Back"You must be referring to the Arnie of Hercules in New York.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzjZfAGgE2M

[Gather round]

I always find it amusing when the North’s supporters go on about the number players born outside the island who play for Ireland

Fair point, and thanks for the map/ list- I've never heard of most of them, although I do watch a lot of our U-21 games.

I think one reason we mention it (apart from on this thread, replying to Dan's map gag) is that although your fans are stressing, reasonably enough, that this dispute is about giving all Irishmen the chance to play for the Republic, there's a wider issue. Neither Irish team can produce enough high-standard players so, like the Scots and Welsh, we'll both continue to recruit the shortfall mainly from England. In practice, all four of us will take people whose connection to their new country is pretty superficial. That said, of the 24 players from NI's recent qualifiers only two (Paterson and Taylor) were from outside.

I see the predictable 'united Ireland inevitabvle at next census/ election/ opinion poll/ Tuesday' has revived again, so I'll leave you to it. Let us know after the referendum result, ta.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Fair point, and thanks for the map/ list- I've never heard of most of them, although I do watch a lot of our U-21 games.

Even If this was true, you never pay much attention to any game yer ever at....


I see the predictable 'united Ireland inevitabvle at next census/ election/ opinion poll/ Tuesday' has revived again, so I'll leave you to it. Let us know after the referendum result, ta.
Huh?

More paranoid ramblings....who mentioned a vote!!

[ifk101]

I think one reason we mention it (apart from on this thread, replying to Dan's map gag) is that although your fans are stressing, reasonably enough, that this dispute is about giving all Irishmen the chance to play for the Republic there's a wider issue. Neither Irish team can produce enough high-standard players so, like the Scots and Welsh, we'll both continue to recruit the shortfall mainly from England.

What we have here is a football association seeking to stop nationals by birth the right to represent their country. The football association in question has a very unique interpretation of FIFA's eligibility statutes and, despite receiving clarification from FIFA on this matter, believes it's interpretation is correct and wants FIFA to apply and uphold its eligibility statutes according to how it interprets the statutes. That said football association is also very critical of the selection policies of other football associations, is qualified by the knowledge that one of the most capped players for said football association has zero eligibility linkage to the said football association.


That said, of the 24 players from NI's recent qualifiers only two (Paterson and Taylor) were from outside.

Once you cap a player with what you term "superficial" connections, it's laughable to come along and assume a moral high ground in moaning about other football associations doing likewise.

[dantheman]

Fair point, and thanks for the map/ list- I've never heard of most of them, although I do watch a lot of our U-21 games.
Tis a fair point, the maps of hypocrisy never lie! I suggest you do more research and spread the word amoungs your OWC brethren, they seem unaware they live in glass houses.


I think one reason we mention it (apart from on this thread, replying to Dan's map gag) is that although your fans are stressing, reasonably enough, that this dispute is about giving all Irishmen the chance to play for the Republic, there's a wider issue. Neither Irish team can produce enough high-standard players so, like the Scots and Welsh, we'll both continue to recruit the shortfall mainly from England. In practice, all four of us will take people whose connection to their new country is pretty superficial. That said, of the 24 players from NI's recent qualifiers only two (Paterson and Taylor) were from outside.
A wider issue indeed, and connected to the above. You are indeed correct that England, due to proximity and huge population, will provide some of its born and bred citizens to NI/ROI/Wales/Scotland.
That being said, only one set of fans are pointing out than one particular individual other association is involved in this. Your own. Which is sad, as we're all at it. Furthermore the OWC rabble have their own, self concluded interpretation, that they wish to have imposed.

Because they're "special" :D


I see the predictable 'united Ireland inevitabvle at next census/ election/ opinion poll/ Tuesday' has revived again, so I'll leave you to it. Let us know after the referendum result, ta.
Oh but nobody wrote anything about that! We are just examining more options for the FAI training camps for when they take their rightful and noble place in the wee six!:D

[co. down green]

Fair point, and thanks for the map/ list- I've never heard of most of them, although I do watch a lot of our U-21 games..


Unfortunately, I don't have data for every English, Scottish and Welsh local government area breaking down the number of Irish Republic passport holders/ grandsons of de aspora/ owners of Riverdance downloads,.

The point in creating the map was to show the scale of English born players being brought into the North’s youth set-up by Beagleshole & also to show how your own little map was a bit daft as its the IFA management team who seem to be the busiest in the player acquisition field.

In a recent interview the north’s u21 international Lee Hodson said that he, and the Watford youth teams attending the Milk Cup, were approached to try and find out if anyone had a 6 county born granny & to persuade them to play for the north.

Nothing wrong with that I suppose, if its not breaking FIFA rules, but its worth noting that England are looking Hodson back and are probably not best pleased at the almost ‘blanket poaching’ of kids by the North’s management team.

Its probably no surprise that IFA underage teams now have five English born Watford players in their ranks - Dominic ball u16, Adam Thompson u17, Jack Warburton u17 , Michael Bryan (senior debut recently) & Lee Hodson u21.

Its absolutely laughable for the north’s fans to criticise Irish selection procedures when Beaglehole seems to be running his youth selection process like a cattle market.

Ni u16 internationals - Watford born Dominic Ball and London born Joe Jones added to map.

Perhaps you should post the map on owc under the thread title – Who are the Beggars?
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9001/map6j.jpg

[Predator]

What we have here is a football association seeking to stop nationals by birth the right to represent their country. The football association in question has a very unique interpretation of FIFA's eligibility statutes and, despite receiving clarification from FIFA on this matter, believes it's interpretation is correct and wants FIFA to apply and uphold its eligibility statutes according to how it interprets the statutes.Indeed. At first I was a bit baffled by the IFA's persistence that they were right and the FAI, FIFA and the rest of the world were wrong and I couldn't believe it, but now I'm believing it. Thankfully, quite a few NI supporters are more than aware of the misguided nature of the IFA's approach. However, taking into consideration the likelihood that the IFA's case at the CAS (presumably to get FIFA to uphold its statutes - but is this the case at all?) will fail, I don't think this will be the end of the issue and the IFA, if their misplaced sense of entitlement is anything to go by, will continue to make an issue out of it until they get what they want.

[Predator]

Have to say Co. Down Green, kudos on the map. I was always aware of the vast number of 'foreign' players within the IFA's ranks, but the map of the youth players alone gives a fantastic image.

[Sullivinho]

Its worth noting that England are looking Hodson back and are probably not best pleased at the almost ‘blanket poaching’ of kids by the North’s management team.

I wonder, is there any chance some of these kids are availing of the NI experience whilst keeping their international options open in the event ability should prove too much for ambition to ignore?

[ArdeeBhoy]

Lol.



Perhaps you should post the map on owc under the thread title – Who are the Beggars?
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9001/map6j.jpg

Will anyone dare?? It would be worth it, even to get banned by their Paranoia Police on OWB.
Though if anyone does, I for one would make a modest donation to charity.