FAI Junior Cup 2009/10

[Jofspring]

Balla 5 - KP 0


big shock today, just back from the match. kennedy park beat balla 3-2 a.e.t :eek:

Big difference in those two results.

[leather]

why was there linesmen at the boro this morning? Added to the game i thought.
Janesboro requested them.Would be nice if there could be assistant refs at all premier games..
:)

[leather]

well done to the lads this morning.good result,.and also well done to the lads yesterday for getting the pitch ready..

[Thunderblaster]

Castlebar Celtic P v P Straide & Foxford Utd.
Swinford 3 v 3 Clew Bay Utd. Swinford won 5-3 pens.
Ballina Town P v P Kiltimagh/Knock Utd.
Urlaur Utd. 2 v 3 Ballyheane
Westport Utd. 2 v 4 Manulla :eek::(
Iorras Aontaithe 5 v 0 Ballyglass

[lifegoeson]

you just woke up more like,what about regional ha


would not really call it a shock in any way;) park were very srong today

[Soccer Lover]

Janesboro requested them.Would be nice if there could be assistant refs at all premier games..
:)

fair play to Boro for gettin them, do you really think linesmen in all premier games would make that much of a difference?

[howsheref]

fair play to Boro for gettin them, do you really think linesmen in all premier games would make that much of a difference?
it would make a difference alright but will never happen due to the exorberent prices the refs and linesmen are looking for.alot of clubs dont have the funds and therefore will never happen.

[liamo]

it would make a difference alright but will never happen due to the exorberent prices the refs and linesmen are looking for.alot of clubs dont have the funds and therefore will never happen.
league here in waterford insisted on linesmen in premier games,clubs not very happy as it now costs 114 euro per game. thats if no travel involved.

[Fairkop]

league here in waterford insisted on linesmen in premier games,clubs not very happy as it now costs 114 euro per game. thats if no travel involved.


Referees have too much power and will finish soccer if they keep up this price fixing,clubs are stretched as it is.

[Get a life]

Referees have too much power and will finish soccer if they keep up this price fixing,clubs are stretched as it is.

It will just start to affect the fans as the cost will just be passed on to them

[abbeyvale]

FAI Junior Cup 4th Round

Fairview Rgs v Caherdavin Celtic
Caledonians or Bruff Utd v Ballynanty Rvs
Kilmallock Utd v Janesboro
Pike Rovers v Mungret Regional
Park F.C. v Prospect Priory or Shannon Town

[abbeyvale]

FAI Junior Cup 4th Round

Fairview Rgs v Caherdavin Celtic
Caledonians or Bruff Utd v Ballynanty Rvs
Kilmallock Utd v Janesboro
Pike Rovers v Mungret Regional
Park F.C. v Prospect Priory or Shannon Town



Sunday Nov 29th
Caledonians v Bruff Utd, 10.30, G Clancy
Shannon Town v Prospect Priory, 10.30

[blackjack]

FAI Junior Cup 4th Round

Fairview Rgs v Caherdavin Celtic
Caledonians or Bruff Utd v Ballynanty Rvs
Kilmallock Utd v Janesboro
Pike Rovers v Mungret Regional
Park F.C. v Prospect Priory or Shannon Town
pike are home to ashling

[Final Frontier]

FAI Junior Cup 4th Round

Fairview Rgs v Caherdavin Celtic
Caledonians or Bruff Utd v Ballynanty Rvs
Kilmallock Utd v Janesboro
Pike Rovers v Mungret Regional
Park F.C. v Prospect Priory or Shannon Town

When are these games fixed for?

[lifegoeson]

:eek::eek:Appeal gone in aggainst park.. apparently had an illegal player playing.

complete B.S both teams pictures were in the star paper. I'd say regional grasping at straws if they have put in an objection.......... well matched and beaten on the day.

[Fairkop]

yep heard it tonite from one of the regional lads,objection gone in ,problem with the card by all accounts:confused:really poor defeat for them fair play to park,hope they come through it.

[SeniorBlue]

Well lads any update on this, how do the park lads feel about it, did the willingly know that the supposed player was illegal and for the regional lads do they feel confident that they will win the appeal. I like following the FAI but every year there seems to be some kind of appeals, just wondering if this a complicated one or a straightforward case

[blackwood]

Rock Celtic from Louth are they are serious team, our club played them in a early round and were very impressed. We played Willow park last year but this Rock Celtic seem to be the real deal

[Lev Yashin]

I can tell you this there are some dodgy dealings going on behind the scenes here and everyone knows who are involved re: the draw included

You cant make statements like that and not back them up.....

[abbeyvale]

pike are home to ashling


Apologies BJ I just copied and pasted it from the Limerick soccer webiste and didn't take much notice.

[old git]

You cant make statements like that and not back them up.....

no names were mentioned and comment re : draw i assume meant prospect v shannon town ... so why have prospect not replied to statement :D:D just ignore the bull***t & rumours shannonman let the fai sort it out..

[Lev Yashin]

no names were mentioned and comment re : draw i assume meant prospect v shannon town ... so why have prospect not replied to statement :D:D just ignore the bull***t & rumours shannonman let the fai sort it out..

I'm not implying it's anything to do with our match but it's a question of integrity...to make statements like he made about the top junior football competition...well it diminish's the tournament so far and the current draw.

[Aanother]

From what I heard anyway, sounds like Regional have a good reason to put in an objection. Don't want to go into the ins and outs but Park have only themselves to blame if they get kicked out.

[the real deal]

some mame on the card just sayin sergio as if he was brazilian or something:D

[mogus]

regional should just take there beating. its 11 v 11 no matter who plays

[Aanother]

Its that kind of attitude that got Park in this situation

[old git]

some mame on the card just sayin sergio as if he was brazilian or something:D

maybe he is brazilian :D::D

[da bishop]

if park had an illegal player on the pitch they have broken the rules,however if all parks players are legal but they just made a mistake on thr refs card then regional are grasping at straws and are quite sad.

[KUFCMan]

LIVESCORES COUNTRY EDITION
Please enter your comments?
FAI JUNIOR CUP 3RD ROUND RESULT

ROCK CELTIC 5-2 ALBION ROVERS

A HANDY WIN FOR MEATH AND DISTRICTS FINEST TEAM LAST WEDNESDAY PLAYED UNDER LIGHTS AT ROCKS FINE GROUND.THEY NOW TRAVEL TO TYRELLSTOWN OR KENTSTOWN IN THE 4TH ROUND WHERE THEY SHOULD PROGRESS TO THE OPEN DRAW(5TH ROUND)

[Aanother]

if park had an illegal player on the pitch they have broken the rules,however if all parks players are legal but they just made a mistake on thr refs card then regional are grasping at straws and are quite sad.

A serious doubt has been raised and Regional are well within their rights to have it checked out. Who writes a nickname on a match card? Smells dodgy.

[Lev Yashin]

A serious doubt has been raised and Regional are well within their rights to have it checked out. Who writes a nickname on a match card? Smells dodgy.

The brazilians have been doing it for years... Pelé Full name Edison Arantes do Nascimento


Sócrates Full name Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio
de Souza Vieira de Oliveira

Cant see the big deal really...as long as the player is signed then there is no issue...people who fill out cards are normal guys not lawyers or solicitors.... I'd would say that every week hundreds of names are spelt wrong on cards up and down the country....

[pile driver]

any chance of the remaining 2 fai games in limerick going ahead cant see shannon or prospect field being playable til after xmas

[Roadend]

Cant see the big deal really...as long as the player is signed then there is no issue...people who fill out cards are normal guys not lawyers or solicitors.... I'd would say that every week hundreds of names are spelt wrong on cards up and down the country....

Having been on the receiveng end of a few objections, which turned out to be unfounded in the end, I can tell you that it is a big deal.

[Lev Yashin]

Having been on the receiveng end of a few objections, which turned out to be unfounded in the end, I can tell you that it is a big deal.

Ok maybe my point came across wrong...having an objection put in against you is a big deal...bur the reason(in this situation, if the player was signed) isn't a big deal...I mean surely there isn't a case....

That said we shouldn't really speculate lets hope there is no grounds for objection because it was a fantastic result for park( as much as it pains me to say it) :D

[Aanother]

From what I hear, the card being filled out incorrectly will be enough for Park to be thrown out. It happened in an earlier round and that was the result of the objection.

[balanced view]

ya from what i understand park will be thrown out. the name on the card does not correspond with any player park have signed with any junior team. this has happened so many times before and you wonder why clubs have clowns filling out the match card. feel verry sorry for park players and mgt and as a club but they have broken the rules and you can see why regional have appealed. hopefully a lesson learned to everyone in Limerick league anyway.

[Fairkop]

A serious doubt has been raised and Regional are well within their rights to have it checked out. Who writes a nickname on a match card? Smells dodgy.

For starters even if his full name wasn`t on the card why would shannon hibs try and pull a fast one if they didn`t think he was signed and name or play him in the first place doh! (think about it until it sinks in).
Another valid question is what grounds did regional think they had a case for an objection after the match ie. what prompted them to look for the match card immediately after the game?
And for your info. sergio is his name .
The only serious doubt is where did regional get the go ahead to pursue this as you don`t go fishing for the card after every defeat checking to see is everyone signed up unless you have genuine grounds or in this case there is more going on than we know about.
One last point, if regional think they have a divine right to be in the next round that they can`t beat a div. 1b side anyway they have high opinions about themselves and hopefully the wheel will come around for them.

[Mercurial Vapor]

If the FAI throw Park out of the competition for this, does this give license to all teams that have played Park in Div. 1B league games this season to object on the same issue?

[leather]

No!!! you have 48 hrs to lodge an objection..

[Fairkop]

If the FAI throw Park out of the competition for this, does this give license to all teams that have played Park in Div. 1B league games this season to object on the same issue?


No, you need to have an objection "straight away" after a game to get a hearing, talk to the regional boys they must have been told this last week themselves?

[Truth Meister]

For starters even if his full name wasn`t on the card why would shannon hibs try and pull a fast one if they didn`t think he was signed and name or play him in the first place doh! (think about it until it sinks in).
Another valid question is what grounds did regional think they had a case for an objection after the match ie. what prompted them to look for the match card immediately after the game?
And for your info. sergio is his name .
The only serious doubt is where did regional get the go ahead to pursue this as you don`t go fishing for the card after every defeat checking to see is everyone signed up unless you have genuine grounds or in this case there is more going on than we know about.
One last point, if regional think they have a divine right to be in the next round that they can`t beat a div. 1b side anyway they have high opinions about themselves and hopefully the wheel will come around for them.

This seems like a very honest mistake and is a very grey area when dealing with foreigners who have much different name styles than us paddies. If he was not illegal or suspended then the result should stand. Otherwise you could have appeals based on a simple mispelling of a name. Unless there are other grounds for appeal then Ashling should take their beating and move on, otherwise it reflects very poorly on them

[magicman]

I have to disagree. First off it is a mistake by Park. Whether the person knew how to spell Sergio's surname or not he should of at least made an attempt. If he had no idea what his surname was then surely he had a chance to do it when he had the card. Somebody on the team was bound to know what his name was.

From talking to the Regional crowd the general concensus is they weren't going to appeal if they found a Sergio signed with any of the Park teams but when they looked they didnt find one.

The main defence for Park seems to be that his first name was on the card. Surely that would be no difference to a card filled up with just Michael.....
If a team did that they would be slated for losing to such a stupid mistake. I see no difference here

[Roadend]

For starters even if his full name wasn`t on the card why would shannon hibs try and pull a fast one if they didn`t think he was signed and name or play him in the first place doh! (think about it until it sinks in).
Another valid question is what grounds did regional think they had a case for an objection after the match ie. what prompted them to look for the match card immediately after the game?
And for your info. sergio is his name .
The only serious doubt is where did regional get the go ahead to pursue this as you don`t go fishing for the card after every defeat checking to see is everyone signed up unless you have genuine grounds or in this case there is more going on than we know about.
One last point, if regional think they have a divine right to be in the next round that they can`t beat a div. 1b side anyway they have high opinions about themselves and hopefully the wheel will come around for them.

As Park were due to be the home team, match switched to Regioanl, maybe they just noticed it on the card when they were filling it out second.

[whitestripe]

This seems like a very honest mistake and is a very grey area when dealing with foreigners who have much different name styles than us paddies. If he was not illegal or suspended then the result should stand. Otherwise you could have appeals based on a simple mispelling of a name. Unless there are other grounds for appeal then Ashling should take their beating and move on, otherwise it reflects very poorly on them

You mean Regional? Not Aisling

[whitestripe]

I have to disagree. First off it is a mistake by Park. Whether the person knew how to spell Sergio's surname or not he should of at least made an attempt. If he had no idea what his surname was then surely he had a chance to do it when he had the card. Somebody on the team was bound to know what his name was.

From talking to the Regional crowd the general concensus is they weren't going to appeal if they found a Sergio signed with any of the Park teams but when they looked they didnt find one.

The main defence for Park seems to be that his first name was on the card. Surely that would be no difference to a card filled up with just Michael.....
If a team did that they would be slated for losing to such a stupid mistake. I see no difference here

If Regional have acknowledged that Sergio Doe was on the field of play and there are no other reasons for objection other than the omission of the players surname, then I would like to think Regional would accept defeat with dignity.

[old git]

ya from what i understand park will be thrown out. the name on the card does not correspond with any player park have signed with any junior team. this has happened so many times before and you wonder why clubs have clowns filling out the match card. feel verry sorry for park players and mgt and as a club but they have broken the rules and you can see why regional have appealed. hopefully a lesson learned to everyone in Limerick league anyway.

lads i'm lost here ...

park filled out match card with just sergio on it no surname !!
regional are then claiming no player by this name signed for park afc is this correct..
if park afc have a player called sergio ............ signed will appeal then be rejected or can they still appeal on wrong name on match card .. :confused:

[da bishop]

If Regional have acknowledged that Sergio Doe was on the field of play and there are no other reasons for objection other than the omission of the players surname, then I would like to think Regional would accept defeat with dignity.

good point WS,but unlikely.either way regional will go after their bit of carrot here.if the lad is not a signed player then by all means regional are quite right to go for it as rules are meant to be adhered to,if he is signed and they objected to his name being a problem on the card then its petty,small minded and sad.if they win their objection on those grounds they would want to make sure they themselves never make even a tiny mistake on a card coz what goes around comes.....it should be a lesson to all,fill that card out properly especially MJC ,FAI.

[da bishop]

lads i'm lost here ...

park filled out match card with just sergio on it no surname !!
regional are then claiming no player by this name signed for park afc is this correct..
if park afc have a player called sergio ............ signed will appeal then be rejected or can they still appeal on wrong name on match card .. :confused:

if you have a spelling wrong on the card or you have,n block named team it can be appealed.

[Aanother]

This objection has been raised due to irregularities with the match card. If this had been brought to any other clubs attention in this situation ( The Star Reporter!!! ) , of course they would have to investigate it further. Add to this the fact that there is no Sergio registered for Park - no first , surname or middle name coming close. So to let on that Regional are being ' sad ' is way off the mark. Out of respect for the competition and their own players i'm sure that Regional had little option but to get to the bottom of it. Lastly, if Park have done nothing wrong except make a clerical error then I'm sure a ticking off will be the most they will get.

[Truth Meister]

This objection has been raised due to irregularities with the match card. If this had been brought to any other clubs attention in this situation ( The Star Reporter!!! ) , of course they would have to investigate it further. Add to this the fact that there is no Sergio registered for Park - no first , surname or middle name coming close. So to let on that Regional are being ' sad ' is way off the mark. Out of respect for the competition and their own players i'm sure that Regional had little option but to get to the bottom of it. Lastly, if Park have done nothing wrong except make a clerical error then I'm sure a ticking off will be the most they will get.

In fairness that puts a different perspective on the issue. Mis-spelling is one thing but a totally different name or nickname on the card is a schoolboy error by park. Must be very frustrating for Davy who delegates this to others as he is playing. There is no doubt that Sergio is signed and all is above board in that respect the issue is a technical error on the match card. the ruling on this will be interesting.