FAI Junior Cup 2009/10

[green&white]

can anyone tel me how many clubs have been found guilty by obj in FAI Junior cup during last dozen years or so

[twohalves]

Locally, 2 I think,Geraldines for that famous time Finnan got the measuring tape out and Carew park were the others with the Newport objetion...

[serpico]

Very sorry to dissapoint Tipperary lads but pike are above board.ye will soon find out.ye obviously haven't checked the rule book.:p

[BigfeetBigsocks]

Locally, 2 I think,Geraldines for that famous time Finnan got the measuring tape out and Carew park were the others with the Newport objetion...

The best appeal of all-time will never be beaten LOL :D :D and you forgot Park-Regional appeal and Boro-Kilmallock (noone was actually guilty of anything just one big muckup) this year

[serpico]

Locally, 2 I think,Geraldines for that famous time Finnan got the measuring tape out and Carew park were the others with the Newport objetion...

Geraldines wasn't found guilty of anything it was fairview that was fined not geraldines.

[Quietman]

Correct me if I'm wrong here guys, but wasn't it Pike who objected against Clonmel Town 2 or 3 years ago for the same reason, i.e: playing an ineligable player. Town were then disqualified from the Competition. If this is true and it may not be, but if it is and Pike have made the same mistake as Town did..............then there can be only one outcome and Pike can have only themselves to blame..................Karma eh!!

[barryk]

Very sorry to dissapoint Tipperary lads but pike are above board.ye will soon find out.ye obviously haven't checked the rule book.:p

Serpico,
I hope Pike survive but I spoke with your lads this morning and I can tell you they fear the worst. Colm Carroll has not been regraded. Thier only hope is that the objections are not completed properly. However with certain St Michaels people involved with the FAI I imagine it's curtains for Pike.

[leather]

You can always count on the fai to make sure their competitions are a farce.....

[serpico]

You can always count on the fai to make sure their competitions are a farce.....

As you said in one of your posts the other day if you havnt played loi for 12 months you are automatically regraded .

[widow]

May bank-holiday weekend.

This for sure lads? Wife wants to go away that weekend with the small ones, will have to rearrange a few things in case its an all limerick final

[bridgeceltic]

lads i hope these clubs looked at the fai rule book,just to clarify danaher is safe he was regraded by ldmc(before january 31and according to the fai is safe) davy ryan was out of loi for more than thirty days and was regraded as amature by ldmc which is right according to the fai rule book,colm carroll was released last year and was out of football and is entitled to play automatically in junior football according to the fai rule book,all these rules were changed last year on the 19th of june 2009 due to pro players going back into junior soccer cos the fai had objections coming in every where,otherwise alot of clubs would of been thrown out this year here is the website www.fai.ie (http://www.fai.ie) policies and regulations check it out rule 44

Red Card.... You seem to know alot about the Rule book having one in your pocket. Would your Buddy Paddy Collins be happy if he found out you were on this website now talking about games you have Refereed in asking fellas to go half with you on a Pizza the other night whiel you only have 15mins of a break...... Ask Big Feet Big Socks what paddy told him to do when found out who JockMob was.....

Have a good weekend lads im out of the Country hopefully when im back there will be no Objections put in against teams in the City give us a break....

[twohalves]

Incorrect..Fairview initially refused to play therefore giving Dines a walkover but the pitch dimensions were incorrect by a couple of metres,Fairview objected to the FAI and won. Geraldines were stuffed in the re-arranged fixture.

[blinkx]

Red Card.... You seem to know alot about the Rule book having one in your pocket

Check out www.fai.ie, the rulebook is online.

Loving how every few days someone posts up here trying to start something from nothing again. Give it a break lads.

[serpico]

Check out www.fai.ie, the rulebook is online.

Loving how every few days someone posts up here trying to start something from nothing again. Give it a break lads.

There is an objection gone in blinx.

[serpico]

lads the view beat us fair and square there is no objection gone in from us best of luck to them in the semi

Ye have an objection gone in balbec.

[trueview6]

Red Card.... You seem to know alot about the Rule book having one in your pocket. Would your Buddy Paddy Collins be happy if he found out you were on this website now talking about games you have Refereed in asking fellas to go half with you on a Pizza the other night whiel you only have 15mins of a break...... Ask Big Feet Big Socks what paddy told him to do when found out who JockMob was.....

Have a good weekend lads im out of the Country hopefully when im back there will be no Objections put in against teams in the City give us a break....
why dont u mind your on business, why are you bothered whos on the site and whos not.

[js79]

lads all this talk of objections is total rubbish,why cant football be decieded on the field,as some one who was involved with a team that was screwed out of an fai final,it makes me sick,ye were beaten by better teams,get over it

[mulla]

Incorrect..Fairview initially refused to play therefore giving Dines a walkover but the pitch dimensions were incorrect by a couple of metres,Fairview objected to the FAI and won. Geraldines were stuffed in the re-arranged fixture.

ya but in fairness ye shouldn't have nothin to fear in the first place in that game,was just poor sportsmanship by finnan as the fairview lads were in the warm up and not too happy it was called off either.

[mulla]

lads all this talk of objections is total rubbish,why cant football be decieded on the field,as some one who was involved with a team that was screwed out of an fai final,it makes me sick,ye were beaten by better teams,get over it

listen its never the players fault when stuff like that happens but they are the ones who are hard done by,if rules are clear and then followed there will never be objections,but history shows thats not the case

[pile driver]

ya but in fairness ye shouldn't have nothin to fear in the first place in that game,was just poor sportsmanship by finnan as the fairview lads were in the warm up and not too happy it was called off either.

the team went on strike after that crap and he lost his job soon after

[ponyobrien]

cooke park is cahir park, lovely suface and should make for a cracking game.


No it's not. Cooke park is St. Michaels ground in Tipperary town

[mulla]

the team went on strike after that crap and he lost his job soon after

ya i thought i remembered that alright but didn't want to say in case it wasn't through,i'd be havin lads on my back:)

[hooper74]

I dont think people realise how serious this situation with Pike Rovers is....my understanding is that they havent got a leg to stand on and will be thrown out and there isnt even grounds for an appeal

[mulla]

I dont think people realise how serious this situation with Pike Rovers is....my understanding is that they havent got a leg to stand on and will be thrown out and there isnt even grounds for an appeal

your saying they haven't a leg to stand on and others are saying there is no case to answer,quicker we find out the better because its dragging on a bit already

[allab]

just on the 6 o clock news that st michaels and kilmallock have objections in

[mulla]

if its true ldmc should be the ones answerable to fai cos they are the ones who regraded these players and registered them and is the governing body in limerick football and for them to make this mistake is unbelieveable cos they write off to the fai to see if they can regrade these players can see this going all the way to arbitration

whats made you change your tune?you have been posting about rules and quoting rules to say they have nothing to worry about and now you are saying the ldmc are to blame!

[barryk]

Does anyone know of a case where a team was illegal in the FAI but escaped becuase objection was not in order?

[Goals4fun]

if its true ldmc should be the ones answerable to fai cos they are the ones who regraded these players and registered them and is the governing body in limerick football and for them to make this mistake is unbelieveable cos they write off to the fai to see if they can regrade these players can see this going all the way to arbitration

it would be both clubs responsibility to have ther papers from the ldmc to prove the lads were regraded. If they didn't they may be in a sticky situation...

this is getting boring now. I am sure both clubs will hear by early next week if there are objections and the reasons. Would be great to post on here and info....

[green&white]

it all boils down to two teams not able to take a beaten and getting on with their lives cluthing at straws what a joke

seems almost all (if not all) disputes , objs , etc involve Lim clubs. Is this possibly down to local
grievience , competitiveness ,club secretary`s naievety or plain old greed. Rumours abound in regard to how strong certain Lim clubs are each season , signing players from far and wide .
It was always a joy to be involved in Junior cup but this win at all costs is doing huge damage to
a great competition.
What next? junior clubs paying players!!!!!

[carrick hoops]

they know already talking to a ldmc member tonight in jackman park there is something and ldmc needs to back the clubs cos it was there fault not the clubs,its up to the leagues to make sure players are regraded not the clubs seriously the league cos they are the governing bodies and plus this is getting boring clus should just get on with their lifes after defeat:yawn: think you might have had a" few " before this post ,ref ,your opinions seem to be going to the side of something being incorrect ??? what do you know,,,,!!!!

[serpico]

I hope st michaels have plenty of money.!!!this is goin to cost them big time.

[allab]

[QUOTE=Goals4fun;1336231 I am sure both clubs will hear by early next week if there are objections and the reasons.

it was on the news saying the semi finals are in disarray because there are two objections in regarding degrading players

[tedd11]

[QUOTE=Goals4fun;1336231 I am sure both clubs will hear by early next week if there are objections and the reasons.

it was on the news saying the semi finals are in disarray because there are two objections in regarding degrading players

regional must be quietly rubbing there hands with glee at all this nonsense.at least to my knowledge all there players have been "junior" players for a number of years and they wont be running into the player being league of ireland.its a shame that teams spend time looking for objections than taking there beating.its therefor all to see that pike have a strong squad this year with afew ex league of ireland players,like fairview also.i find it hard to believe that we are at the semi final stage and people are objecting to pike playing these players.have they not been playing the same players for the last 6 rounds without any grievances?how come its taken to the semi final stage before an objection is made?pike are long enough in the game and have enough experience within the club to have ther house in order paperwork wise.if its a case of the LDMC making a mistake in the registration of these players then they should all be forced to resign.it will be an absolute disgrace and to make it worse in a year when 3 limerick clubs have reached the semi final stage.the sooner it is sorted out tho the better for all involved

[Bonovox]

ya but in fairness ye shouldn't have nothin to fear in the first place in that game,was just poor sportsmanship by finnan as the fairview lads were in the warm up and not too happy it was called off either.

I would like to object to a spelling mistake - Its Finnin not Finnan. Rule 23 section 5A clearly states that the match card must be filled out correctly. Spelling mistakes will not be tolerated. What club are you involved with mulla? I will have to deduct you 6 league points for that.

[thomas72]

lads there is so much diff reports.

whats the facts is there an objection gone in against pike??

if so what are micheals objecting over??

[kev08]

St. Michaels have I believe 5 objections they only need one to stick. It is making the competition into a joke. Teams knocked out getting through because of wrong paperwork is hard to swallow. Hopefully commonsense prevails and justice is seen to be done.

they got a lot of help did saints from delaneys buddys:mad2:

[ronburgundy]

its makin a total shambles of the competition, would be great to see a tipp team win it but a clonmel v regional final would be a huge anti climax to the cup

[thomas72]

St. Michaels have I believe 5 objections they only need one to stick. It is making the competition into a joke. Teams knocked out getting through because of wrong paperwork is hard to swallow. Hopefully commonsense prevails and justice is seen to be done.


5 objections :eek: surely this cant be right a club as well run club as pike broke the rules in 5 areas i just cant see it.

what are they 5 objections???
and more importantly for pike i susppose do they have a leg to stand on????

[blinkx]

Odd that they've lodged 5 different complaints instead of just the 1, it appears that they're trying every foreseeable avenue to bring Pike down. Whatever happens they're will be plenty of questions to be asked.

[the dazzler]

Odd that they've lodged 5 different complaints instead of just the 1, it appears that they're trying every foreseeable avenue to bring Pike down. Whatever happens they're will be plenty of questions to be asked.

shame really ye ok?

[francesco_1]

If the objection is about the regrading of players then the clubs involved should know before they play the players, how many Limerick teams have LOI players maybe 2 or 3, thats not a lot and surely the LDMC (who would know these things) and the said 2/3 teams would be on top of things its not like the EX players are with loads of different clubs.

[barryk]

Blaming the LDMC is rubbish. Any club with serious hopes of winning the FAI should have checked their own paperwork. Any organisation can make mistakes including the FAI so it's up to every club to have copies of all the required paperwork.
I feel St Michales are getting a lot of help from people in the FAI leading me to believe the FAI will see Pike out of the competition whether Saints objection holds up or not.

[blinkx]

Blaming the LDMC is rubbish. Any club with serious hopes of winning the FAI should have checked their own paperwork. Any organisation can make mistakes including the FAI so it's up to every club to have copies of all the required paperwork.
I feel St Michales are getting a lot of help from people in the FAI leading me to believe the FAI will see Pike out of the competition whether Saints objection holds up or not.

Fairview are in the same boat don't forget.

[blinkx]

So the FAI Cup will be concluded about June, 2012 then? :P And what happens with the FAI Senior cup? I'd assume the teams Pike/Fairview were due to play will get automatic walkovers?

[blinkx]

One look at their setup in Cooke tells you they have in bucket loads..

[green&white]

St. Michaels have I believe 5 objections they only need one to stick. It is making the competition into a joke. Teams knocked out getting through because of wrong paperwork is hard to swallow. Hopefully commonsense prevails and justice is seen to be done.

IMO if any club enter a competition with an illegal team , and then are allowed to progress unchecked ,it degrades that competition.
One of two things will happen here ,1, Pike and/or Fairview will be cleared of wrongdoing and thus upholding their reputation
2, any of the clubs found guilty will be in disgrace for attempting to to win competition by cheating.
Any objection and due enquiry surely upholds the good name of the competition by ensuring that cheating cannot flourish.
All clubs must be assured they can enter cup in good faith.

[blinkx]

IMO if any club enter a competition with an illegal team , and then are allowed to progress unchecked ,it degrades that competition.
One of two things will happen here ,1, Pike and/or Fairview will be cleared of wrongdoing and thus upholding their reputation
2, any of the clubs found guilty will be in disgrace for attempting to to win competition by cheating.
Any objection and due enquiry surely upholds the good name of the competition by ensuring that cheating cannot flourish.
All clubs must be assured they can enter cup in good faith.

I'd hardly call it cheating on either teams part in all fairness.

[Redman028]

it does nt matter they will need more then delaneys buddys to help them what a way to waste money hope they hv it to waste it:call:

Dont worry about Saints........They have plenty of it to waste!

[francesco_1]

Blaming the LDMC is rubbish. Any club with serious hopes of winning the FAI should have checked their own paperwork. Any organisation can make mistakes including the FAI so it's up to every club to have copies of all the required paperwork.
I feel St Michales are getting a lot of help from people in the FAI leading me to believe the FAI will see Pike out of the competition whether Saints objection holds up or not.

Im not blaming the LDMC if thats what you mean. I am saying the LDMC would be the people in the know about these things so the 2/3 clubs (from Limerick ) who have these players should of sough the advice before they played the players.

Its still an amateur competition and teams will make the mistakes. I dont think Pike tried to seek an unfair advantage by playing these players as they would of though they were fine. Getting knocked out because of paperwork from an amateur competition will be hard to take.

[Redman028]

thats all they have couldn't win a match with out objection losing a two goal lead like that and losing 4-2:waving:

Didnt Pike do the same to Clonmel Town a few yrs ago for same reason?????