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Longshanks
15/04/2010, 12:22 PM
Can I ask the 'Pike' people if you think you deserve to be still in the competition after fielding an illegible player in it?? I'm not looking for Saints did this or someone tipped them off or we've been screwed by the FAI etc. I know you must be sick over whats happened and its come as a kick in the teeth. But as a straw poll 'Should Pike be still in the FAI Junior Cup after playing an illegible player?' yes or no??
serpico
15/04/2010, 12:35 PM
Can I ask the 'Pike' people if you think you deserve to be still in the competition after fielding an illegible player in it?? I'm not looking for Saints did this or someone tipped them off or we've been screwed by the FAI etc. I know you must be sick over whats happened and its come as a kick in the teeth. But as a straw poll 'Should Pike be still in the FAI Junior Cup after playing an illegible player?' yes or no??

Why not? Pike were 100% legal when they played st michaels.st micks objected with no proof whatsoever that pike were illegal which has been proved.so you tell me why st micks objection was upheld.don't want a big rigmarone, just the facts.Now it's the st micks objection we are talking bout here and nothing else.
Sheik
15/04/2010, 12:36 PM
Can I ask the 'Pike' people if you think you deserve to be still in the competition after fielding an illegible player in it?? I'm not looking for Saints did this or someone tipped them off or we've been screwed by the FAI etc. I know you must be sick over whats happened and its come as a kick in the teeth. But as a straw poll 'Should Pike be still in the FAI Junior Cup after playing an illegible player?' yes or no??


no.....

another club from the same limerick were thrown out earlier so it has to be the same for pike
historynut
15/04/2010, 12:56 PM
I wonder wether part of the problem lies in the overall structure of football in the Republic, in that you have on paper 3 tiers - Senior, Intermediate & Junior though I do wonder exactly what the differance actually is between Intermediate & Junior.
With most countries you would expect that players would move through the tiers as their carreers progressed or declined, however here it may appear players in decline jump tiers . This being partly that a lot of clubs refuse to move through the tiers themselves as in a normal pyramid system. So a number of clubs that compete at an apparent Junior level in reality are probably Intermediate set up.
Taking Munster for example, there is the Munster Senior League (though predominatly a Cork City/East County geographical area). backed up by at Junior Level the various County Leagues.
Evidently junior teams in their County Leagues do not wish due to finance restrictions progress in a pyramid system and thus remain big fish in small ponds. Untill such time a proper pyramid system is instigated that the ongoing problem of registering ex senior players may always continue.
Historically Pike, Clonmel, Tipperayey,Cahir, Janesboro, Limerick Trojans, a number of Waterford teams, Tralee and Killarney have at times partaken in the MSL. Which in theory should be the principle league for the whole Province.
Admittingly to force clubs to move up levels can lead to financial burden. Either make the principle County Divisions Intermediate level, though I would suggest introducing a regional Intermediate level below the Msl - North Munster, best teams from Clare, Limerick, ntdl and some Desmond/Kerry. East Munster - TDSL & Waterford. These regional divisions being fed with promotion/relegation from County divisions.
There has forever been problems of players being ineligble due to registration between moving between levels through out the history of football in Ireland, One way to possibly eradicate this is if clubs played at a correct level due to their ability and facilities.
Mega Tots
15/04/2010, 1:10 PM
Why not? Pike were 100% legal when they played st michaels.st micks objected with no proof whatsoever that pike were illegal which has been proved.so you tell me why st micks objection was upheld.don't want a big rigmarone, just the facts.Now it's the st micks objection we are talking bout here and nothing else.

So you are now telling people Serpico what they can talk about on a public forum? it was a very good post and on that angle and saints aside if Pike played an illegal player in any round then yes they should be gone and saints becomes another matter
barryk
15/04/2010, 1:16 PM
I'm told Pike's Munster Junior game this weekend has been pulled.
Local matches next?
serpico
15/04/2010, 1:25 PM
So you are now telling people Serpico what they can talk about on a public forum? it was a very good post and on that angle and saints aside if Pike played an illegal player in any round then yes they should be gone and saints becomes another matter

You obviously picked me up wrong.what I was saying was that the objection was from st micks and no-one else and pike were found guilty of no wrong doing.hope that clears it up for you.I'm not telling anybody what they can and can't post because they will post anything onhere anyway.
Mega Tots
15/04/2010, 1:30 PM
You obviously picked me up wrong.what I was saying was that the objection was from st micks and no-one else and pike were found guilty of no wrong doing.hope that clears it up for you.I'm not telling anybody what they can and can't post because they will post anything onhere anyway.

ok fair enough but surely if Pike played an illegal player in any round then they should be expelled?? forget saint michaels for a moment
joeSoap
15/04/2010, 1:37 PM
ok fair enough but surely if Pike played an illegal player in any round then they should be expelled?? forget saint michaels for a moment But you can't forget Saint Michaels for any moment because they are gaining from a situation that legally doesn't concern them, whilst clubs it does concern, ie Aisling and Springfield should still be represented in the competition. There is a procedure to be followed regarding the objecting to illegal players with timeframes in place for such objections to be raised. This was not done in this case, and Saint Michaels have no right to still be in the competition.
the dazzler
15/04/2010, 1:38 PM
I'm told Pike's Munster Junior game this weekend has been pulled.
Local matches next?

ya just told by an ldmc member carew park came to them last night asking for the 3points when they played pike christ there 1 classy club talk about supporting your own
Longshanks
15/04/2010, 1:39 PM
Why not? Pike were 100% legal when they played st michaels.st micks objected with no proof whatsoever that pike were illegal which has been proved.so you tell me why st micks objection was upheld.don't want a big rigmarone, just the facts.Now it's the st micks objection we are talking bout here and nothing else.

Serpico,

By your logic Pike were 100% illegal against Aisling Annacotty!! I'll take that as a yes so
the 12 th man
15/04/2010, 1:40 PM
This thread is starting to go round in circles,I can't see any reason to keep it going unless people start posting original material,I think we're all aware of the facts at this stage so I suggest stopping rehashing the same old stuff again and again.
faces
15/04/2010, 2:04 PM
Serpico,

By your logic Pike were 100% illegal against Aisling Annacotty!! I'll take that as a yes so
fact 1=aisling did not object and can not do so.fact 2 =springfield did not object and can not do so.these are facts whether pike were illegal against them or not and the same goes for any other soccer matches pike played in.as there are time scales for all these so called objections they are all expired by now.so lets all sit back and take a chill pill and see what the outcome as i said earlier in about 3 months time.its geting boring.
Quietman
15/04/2010, 2:04 PM
This thread is starting to go round in circles,I can't see any reason to keep it going unless people start posting original material,I think we're all aware of the facts at this stage so I suggest stopping rehashing the same old stuff again and again.

Just close it now!! Do us all a favour!!
Longshanks
15/04/2010, 2:16 PM
fact 1=aisling did not object and can not do so.fact 2 =springfield did not object and can not do so.these are facts whether pike were illegal against them or not and the same goes for any other soccer matches pike played in.as there are time scales for all these so called objections they are all expired by now.so lets all sit back and take a chill pill and see what the outcome as i said earlier in about 3 months time.its geting boring.

Fact 1 - illegal
Fact 2 - illegal
Fact 3 - Out
serpico
15/04/2010, 2:31 PM
fact 1=aisling did not object and can not do so.fact 2 =springfield did not object and can not do so.these are facts whether pike were illegal against them or not and the same goes for any other soccer matches pike played in.as there are time scales for all these so called objections they are all expired by now.so lets all sit back and take a chill pill and see what the outcome as i said earlier in about 3 months time.its geting boring.

Great post.
serpico
15/04/2010, 2:33 PM
Fact 1 - illegal
Fact 2 - illegal
Fact 3 - Out

Can you prove that long.if not shut it.
joeSoap
15/04/2010, 3:05 PM
The Life President of Pike Rovers, Ger Frawley lost his wife Nancy to illness today. Nancy was a lifelong stalwart of the club and will be sorely missed.
Perhaps this silly bickering can stop for a while now as a mark of respect to Nancy and her family.

Ar dheis De go raibh a anam dilis.
neverseenit
15/04/2010, 3:09 PM
by the sound of it they are supporting their own...carew park....i wonder how many other clubs will look for the points especially the clubs going for the league...fairview..regional..boro....watch this space
Longshanks
15/04/2010, 3:12 PM
Can you prove that long.if not shut it.

Is it not true that Pike played an illegal player? intentionally or not? the fact that you got away with it for 1 or 2 rounds doesnt make it acceptable. I know that you must be really hurting about how it has all been handled and that you were so close to the final, but would you seriously be happy to be looking at the 'holy grail' in the trophy cabinet of your fine clubhouse with 'this' hanging over you??

Roll up your selves, get the paper work in order, dot all the i's cross all the t's and make 2011 Pikes year, if you ever needed motivation you have it now
Longshanks
15/04/2010, 3:13 PM
The Life President of Pike Rovers, Ger Frawley lost his wife Nancy to illness today. Nancy was a lifelong stalwart of the club and will be sorely missed.
Perhaps this silly bickering can stop for a while now as a mark of respect to Nancy and her family.

Ar dheis De go raibh a anam dilis.


Agreed.....


RIP
serpico
15/04/2010, 3:32 PM
The Life President of Pike Rovers, Ger Frawley lost his wife Nancy to illness today. Nancy was a lifelong stalwart of the club and will be sorely missed.
Perhaps this silly bickering can stop for a while now as a mark of respect to Nancy and her family.

Ar dheis De go raibh a anam dilis.

Yea great supporter of club especially schoolboys herself and Ger.puts it all into perspective.RIP.Nancy.
blackjack
15/04/2010, 5:14 PM
This thread is starting to go round in circles,I can't see any reason to keep it going unless people start posting original material,I think we're all aware of the facts at this stage so I suggest stopping rehashing the same old stuff again and again.
think it is time this thread is closed down.
Poolman
15/04/2010, 5:40 PM
Seriously...are you trying to test the theory of evolution here??:confused2:

How am I moving attention from myself? What the hell have I got to do with any of this? What I was saying is that the senior council of the FAI are annoyed that there are so many recent ex LOI players in Pikes squad and this could be why they have come down so heavy on them.

Read my post again...you'll see I'm quite supportive of Pike.
No i think you have said enough.
nononsense
15/04/2010, 6:07 PM
I'm told Pike's Munster Junior game this weekend has been pulled.
Local matches next?
Not true. MFA have meeting to-night - may be on the agenda but as far as I know the game still stands as of now.
Fairkop
15/04/2010, 6:08 PM
some of the posts on this thread are now bordering on the ridiculous and while everyone with limerick connections is disappointed at pikes explusion from the competition a theme seems to be emerging where its :not pikes fault:...it was fairviews and regionals first coz they tipped off st.micheals....oops no its actually the ldmc who are to blame......nope wrong again its those micheals fella,s for having the brass neck to object.....hang on its not their fault either its that scout fella who knows a petshop fella who knows a butcher fella,sorry wrong again you forgot the boro lad and that ex saint now with fairview its their fault for sure.....nope afraid not, its the fai their the real culprits......are.n they?......well its certainly not pikes fault.i,i had fingers crossed for pike but now after reading that lot i could,nt give a toss.
nononsense
15/04/2010, 6:09 PM
Just close it now!! Do us all a favour!!

Totally agree.
Mega Tots
15/04/2010, 6:22 PM
some of the posts on this thread are now bordering on the ridiculous and while everyone with limerick connections is disappointed at pikes explusion from the competition a theme seems to be emerging where its :not pikes fault:...it was fairviews and regionals first coz they tipped off st.micheals....oops no its actually the ldmc who are to blame......nope wrong again its those micheals fella,s for having the brass neck to object.....hang on its not their fault either its that scout fella who knows a petshop fella who knows a butcher fella,sorry wrong again you forgot the boro lad and that ex saint now with fairview its their fault for sure.....nope afraid not, its the fai their the real culprits......are.n they?......well its certainly not pikes fault.i,i had fingers crossed for pike but now after reading that lot i could,nt give a toss.

Great post.....everybodys fault except Pikes,someone in Pike messed up with Colm Carrolls papers,simple as
Poolman
15/04/2010, 6:24 PM
some of the posts on this thread are now bordering on the ridiculous and while everyone with limerick connections is disappointed at pikes explusion from the competition a theme seems to be emerging where its :not pikes fault:...it was fairviews and regionals first coz they tipped off st.micheals....oops no its actually the ldmc who are to blame......nope wrong again its those micheals fella,s for having the brass neck to object.....hang on its not their fault either its that scout fella who knows a petshop fella who knows a butcher fella,sorry wrong again you forgot the boro lad and that ex saint now with fairview its their fault for sure.....nope afraid not, its the fai their the real culprits......are.n they?......well its certainly not pikes fault.i,i had fingers crossed for pike but now after reading that lot i could,nt give a toss.
How do you know that everyone that has been posting stuf on this thread are pike rovers.
da bishop
15/04/2010, 6:27 PM
the thread has desended into chaos,any logic on opinionated discussion ended long ago ,we have had posters actually name people allegedly involved in the whole senario without any source or backup ,this is grossly unfair and it beggers belief these posters have,n been banned and the dignity of the thread protected.close it now.
tedd11
15/04/2010, 6:30 PM
some of the posts on this thread are now bordering on the ridiculous and while everyone with limerick connections is disappointed at pikes explusion from the competition a theme seems to be emerging where its :not pikes fault:...it was fairviews and regionals first coz they tipped off st.micheals....oops no its actually the ldmc who are to blame......nope wrong again its those micheals fella,s for having the brass neck to object.....hang on its not their fault either its that scout fella who knows a petshop fella who knows a butcher fella,sorry wrong again you forgot the boro lad and that ex saint now with fairview its their fault for sure.....nope afraid not, its the fai their the real culprits......are.n they?......well its certainly not pikes fault.i,i had fingers crossed for pike but now after reading that lot i could,nt give a toss.

good post fairkop,agree totally ,the whole thing is a shambles.the beauty is gone out of the F.A.I junior cup.if you ask me any team who gets beaten just go looking for a way to get a replay.its a joke.the biggest joke of all is this jumping from senior soccer back to junior soccer and lads being eligeble or not again to play junior etc.I personally think that 2 things should happen.

1-if a player leaves a league of ireland team he should get a dated letter sign by the team secretary dating his release and should have to wait 12 mths before he can again playe junior soccer.

2- a player should have to serve no period in the wilderness and should be allowed to sign juior immediately after receiving a release letter from senior club.

both those points as far as im concerned are fairly crystal clear.time for all this nonsense to stop.its a complete farce.being honest if i was a club manager id stear totally clear of sign ex senior players. seem to cause nothing but technical glitches and hassle for all involved.
Fairkop
15/04/2010, 6:31 PM
How do you know that everyone that has been posting stuf on this thread are pike rovers.

read what i said ,never said that.
Quietman
15/04/2010, 7:35 PM
[QUOTE=tedd11;1347428]good post fairkop,agree totally ,the whole thing is a shambles.the beauty is gone out of the F.A.I junior cup.if you ask me any team who gets beaten just go looking for a way to get a replay.its a joke.[QUOTE]

So are you in agreement with Fairkop? or are you having ago at St Michaels?? :rolleyes:
faces
15/04/2010, 8:25 PM
think it is time this thread is closed down.

exactly and open again when all this rubbish is finished with.i know every one is entitled to opionions but lads only the chosen few have the facts and alot of us are talking crap including myself but as previous post said let it lye as a mark of respect to nancy.RIP NANCY.
daisycutter
15/04/2010, 8:25 PM
we will have to settle for a view-clonmel final now........sometime in 2011....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
daisycutter
15/04/2010, 8:27 PM
exactly and open again when all this rubbish is finished with.i know every one is entitled to opionions but lads only the chosen few have the facts and alot of us are talking crap including myself but as previous post said let it lye as a mark of respect to nancy.RIP NANCY.
well said faces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the bandit
15/04/2010, 8:32 PM
Just give the FAI junior cup to st michaels ,let that muppet john delaney present it to them in lowrys after a game of pool but do be careful not to double tap.TWO SHOTS at it.shut down the thread.
daisycutter
15/04/2010, 8:35 PM
Just give the FAI junior cup to st michaels ,let that muppet john delaney present it to them in lowrys after a game of pool but do be careful not to double tap.TWO SHOTS at it.shut down the thread.
hi bandit relax now, well sort out rocky dennis chalky for you
the bandit
15/04/2010, 8:45 PM
hi bandit relax now, well sort out rocky dennis chalky for you

Saw some of yere game tonite against the boro, Jesus their fair bad.
daisycutter
15/04/2010, 8:47 PM
Saw some of yere game tonite against the boro, Jesus their fair bad.
ahh sure we can only beat whats in front of us,will ye go to court or what?
daisycutter
15/04/2010, 8:51 PM
if ye dont get them thrown out and fairview beat them in the final can they object against fairview for playing danagher in the quater finals?heard paddy power slashed their odds,and reports that delaney has a wager on them [micks)to win it
thomas72
15/04/2010, 9:02 PM
ya just told by an ldmc member carew park came to them last night asking for the 3points when they played pike christ there 1 classy club talk about supporting your own


dazzler what is prob with carew park all serious here you have a serious prob with the club WHY??

lads i can tell you 150% carew did not ask the LDMC for the 3pts back off pike.
its a very sad rumour that people with half a brain tends to makes up.

this fai season has become a joke i understand each supporter backing up there club no prob but dont be making up storys about other clubs that has nothing got to do whats is going on between pike and st micks.
this rumour is laughable to say the least.


pike v carrick off can anyone comfirm???
daisycutter
15/04/2010, 9:07 PM
dazzler what is prob with carew park all serious here you have a serious prob with the club WHY??

lads i can tell you 150% carew did not ask the LDMC for the 3pts back off pike.
its a very sad rumour that people with half a brain tends to makes up.

this fai season has become a joke i understand each supporter backing up there club no prob but dont be making up storys about other clubs that has nothing got to do whats is going on between pike and st micks.
this rumour is laughable to say the least.


pike v carrick off can anyone comfirm???
heard it was off also but not 100% sure
the bandit
15/04/2010, 9:11 PM
Don't know what pike are doing I'm not involved with them but I was told by a mate that they'll go the whole hog,and hopefully they will be successful.fai junior/senior council are a disgrace why did the junior council not remove pike in the original objection?they have proved once again that they are not capable of running junior soccer here.
carrick hoops
15/04/2010, 9:14 PM
heard it was off also but not 100% sure
yeah its off allright !!!!
the bandit
15/04/2010, 9:15 PM
dazzler what is prob with carew park all serious here you have a serious prob with the club WHY??

lads i can tell you 150% carew did not ask the LDMC for the 3pts back off pike.
its a very sad rumour that people with half a brain tends to makes up.

this fai season has become a joke i understand each supporter backing up there club no prob but dont be making up storys about other clubs that has nothing got to do whats is going on between pike and st micks.
this rumour is laughable to say the least.


pike v carrick off can anyone comfirm???

Thomas the chairman of your club did go to junior council enquiring about the points.,so go and ask your chairman .
thomas72
15/04/2010, 9:19 PM
yeah its off allright !!!!


why carrick hoop???
daisycutter
15/04/2010, 9:19 PM
yeah its off allright !!!!
cheers carrick!!!!!!!!
carrick hoops
15/04/2010, 9:57 PM
i think munster council are looking into previous rounds of munster that pike were involved in ,,,
dont know any more , we were told tonight that its off !!!!
pity , i think the players would have liked to play it ....
faces
15/04/2010, 10:13 PM
dazzler what is prob with carew park all serious here you have a serious prob with the club WHY??

lads i can tell you 150% carew did not ask the LDMC for the 3pts back off pike.
its a very sad rumour that people with half a brain tends to makes up.

this fai season has become a joke i understand each supporter backing up there club no prob but dont be making up storys about other clubs that has nothing got to do whats is going on between pike and st micks.
this rumour is laughable to say the least.


pike v carrick off can anyone comfirm???

well lad i would speak to your chairman before you say its not true.and i promise you he will tell you it is true.