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Begrudger
24/05/2009, 1:19 AM
Final Prem table updated above with Dromore & Granville being relegated tonight and also just to note that Mungret were promoted to the Prem from Div 1A tonight as Champions, with second spot either going to go to Geraldines, Shannon Town, Summerville or Star Rvs......................but more than likely the Dines will take that second promotion place.
congratulations to kilmallock on staying up we played them earlier in the season in the munster junior and were a good footballing side who were gratious in defeat and i am delighted to see them stay in premier
the real deal
24/05/2009, 8:57 AM
the two worst teams got relegated and the best team won it:ball:
halo16
24/05/2009, 2:50 PM
congratulations to kilmallock on staying up we played them earlier in the season in the munster junior and were a good footballing side who were gratious in defeat and i am delighted to see them stay in premier
happy to see kilmallock staying up.they have a fabulous set up out there.granville have been teetering with relegation for the last few seasons.they have barely survived in the past but there luck finally ran out.id say they will find it hard to come back up.dromore for me were always going to go down.kilmallock had the ability to get afew wins.for me they just couldnt get it together for a long time but they have had some huge results the last few weeks.Corbally for the second season in a row have survived on the last day.they will need to improve bigtime next season if they are to climb the table.
abbeyvale
24/05/2009, 4:13 PM
happy to see kilmallock staying up.they have a fabulous set up out there.granville have been teetering with relegation for the last few seasons.they have barely survived in the past but there luck finally ran out.id say they will find it hard to come back up.dromore for me were always going to go down.kilmallock had the ability to get afew wins.for me they just couldnt get it together for a long time but they have had some huge results the last few weeks.Corbally for the second season in a row have survived on the last day.they will need to improve bigtime next season if they are to climb the table.
and Corbally will need a new managment team as well.
footie freak
24/05/2009, 8:42 PM
Final Prem table updated above with Dromore & Granville being relegated tonight and also just to note that Mungret were promoted to the Prem from Div 1A tonight as Champions, with second spot either going to go to Geraldines, Shannon Town, Summerville or Star Rvs......................but more than likely the Dines will take that second promotion place.
star out of promtion race and shannon beat summerville this morning. shannon now 4 point behind dines with 3 games to go, while dines have 2 games left and one of those games is mungret. between dines and shannon now, hard to call who will join mungret. will mungret be not too bothered while playing dines as mungrets hard work is done for the season. would be interesting to see....
left back
24/05/2009, 8:46 PM
congrats to kilmallock on staying up think they will give a better account of themselves next season they are a good team well capable of playing ball just a bit to much at times but nice to see them stay up,would like to see the dines join mungret in the prem next year
halo16
24/05/2009, 8:52 PM
and Corbally will need a new managment team as well.
why abbeyvale?have collopy and coll resigned?i know dave was away for a while but i thought he was back?shame really because they have a fine set up,and the lads imo are good managers with an interest.just a pity that they only have 3 or 4 decent players.there just doesnt seem to be the interest out corbally way to have a top junior team.what do you think abbeyvale?would like to hear your comments on the subject?maybe dared can enlighten us a bit further.
Football Alien
25/05/2009, 7:15 AM
corbally were v bad against fairview, view strolled home at 4-1!! coll and collopy more then likely gone, theres more then 3 or 4 decent players out in the corbally squad, they have a good side just need to be more consistent and with a good few of their squad playin their first season in prem football it'll have been a good learning curve for them, but they def need to get a few players in, it'll be interesting to see who takes the managers job next year if christy and dave are gone
well done to kilmallock on stayin up, they got lucky that Balla were understrength and lost home advantage but they did what they had to and fair play to them!
diego10
25/05/2009, 11:23 AM
load of crap about how killkallock deserved to stay up because they played good football, they were shockingly bad most of the season. only reason they stayed up is because balla threw the match. disgraceful.
Centrehalf
25/05/2009, 2:56 PM
load of crap about how killkallock deserved to stay up because they played good football, they were shockingly bad most of the season. only reason they stayed up is because balla threw the match. disgraceful.
Balla didnt throw any match, you can see from the line up they had to use 5 B players and 1 C player, this is due to injuries and lads being away in Edinburgh. Why would Balla throw a match for Kilmallock, to say they did obviously shows you haven't a clue what your talking about.
load of crap about how killkallock deserved to stay up because they played good football, they were shockingly bad most of the season. only reason they stayed up is because balla threw the match. disgraceful.
we didnt stay up by beating balla my dear boy.we had 4 points 6 weeks ago and ended up beating regional,carew,granville and balla and drawing with corbally and dromore thus giving us 18 points.maybe all these teams had there b and c teams playing had they.jealousy is a mighty thing as it makes people talk a lot of **** on here.thanks to the hard graft and not throwing in the towel by our lads is why we stayed up.thanks to all the genuine people that congratulated us on this site and my phone.
slim-jim
25/05/2009, 4:55 PM
corbally were v bad against fairview, view strolled home at 4-1!! coll and collopy more then likely gone, theres more then 3 or 4 decent players out in the corbally squad, they have a good side just need to be more consistent and with a good few of their squad playin their first season in prem football it'll have been a good learning curve for them, but they def need to get a few players in, it'll be interesting to see who takes the managers job next year if christy and dave are gone
well done to kilmallock on stayin up, they got lucky that Balla were understrength and lost home advantage but they did what they had to and fair play to them!
sorry F.A, but ive seen alot of corbally games this year and id be pushed to name any player from that squad who'd make it into any other premier team? they have a good set up but to few people have interest including the players,theres alot of rebuilding needs to be done there.
Football Alien
25/05/2009, 5:04 PM
sorry F.A, but ive seen alot of corbally games this year and id be pushed to name any player from that squad who'd make it into any other premier team? they have a good set up but to few people have interest including the players,theres alot of rebuilding needs to be done there.
your entitled to your opinion pal but i think jj, john bog, dave owens, clarke, fergal, barry and kevin hartnett and chucky are more then good enough to get on for most sides in town.
abbeyvale
25/05/2009, 5:13 PM
star out of promtion race and shannon beat summerville this morning. shannon now 4 point behind dines with 3 games to go, while dines have 2 games left and one of those games is mungret. between dines and shannon now, hard to call who will join mungret. will mungret be not too bothered while playing dines as mungrets hard work is done for the season. would be interesting to see....
I reckon Mungret will put out a strong side when playing The Dines..its only fair to Shannon Town.
abbeyvale
25/05/2009, 5:14 PM
why abbeyvale?have collopy and coll resigned?i know dave was away for a while but i thought he was back?shame really because they have a fine set up,and the lads imo are good managers with an interest.just a pity that they only have 3 or 4 decent players.there just doesnt seem to be the interest out corbally way to have a top junior team.what do you think abbeyvale?would like to hear your comments on the subject?maybe dared can enlighten us a bit further.
From what I heard they have both stepped down.............
abbeyvale
25/05/2009, 5:43 PM
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slim-jim
25/05/2009, 5:59 PM
your entitled to your opinion pal but i think jj, john bog, dave owens, clarke, fergal, barry and kevin hartnett and chucky are more then good enough to get on for most sides in town.
i'll give you chucky
On The Ball
25/05/2009, 7:59 PM
sorry F.A, but ive seen alot of corbally games this year and id be pushed to name any player from that squad who'd make it into any other premier team? they have a good set up but to few people have interest including the players,theres alot of rebuilding needs to be done there.
They've lost alot of players who are now regulars with good premier teams.If they could entice a couple of them back they could do well.getting them back is the problem.Fergal o connell and mark hannon would get on alot of other prem teams too.
They've lost alot of players who are now regulars with good premier teams.If they could entice a couple of them back they could do well.getting them back is the problem.Fergal o connell and mark hannon would get on alot of other prem teams too.
mark hannon is a fine player who did well to come back from a bad injury if im not mistaken?i think that him,david owens,john mc,jj and maguire up front have worked hard to keep that team in the premier the last 2 years.young hartnett has the makings of being a good player.i dont agree with you that fergal would get on alot of other teams.he is dog lazy and you wouldt see him for dust when the going gets tough.ive watched afew games of corbally this year and hes not kicked a ball in hardly any of them.all ive seen is chucky and owens giving there all and carrying around 6 wasters.maybe with a different team o connell might have a better attitude but for me you can be as handy as you want but if the heart and desire aint there you might as well forget it.regarding your post on ex players
1- aido fitz
2-ian dunworth
3-ronan sherlock
4-peter ryan
5-john o dwyer
6-danny hanley
7-dee ryan
8-alan carroll
9-nicky carroll.
all 7 except the 2 carrolls who i think are abroad are playing premier in town with other clubs.corbally would be a different team who would be well up the table if them 7 were with them.i cant see any of them going back though.they all seem to be doing well with there respective clubs.
i think corbally need massive changes to get up the table.wembley,AA and regional have consolidated themselves in premier comfortably over the last few seasons.of the other promtoted teams granville and corbally have struggled bigtime because i feel they cant keep players and cant attract good enough players.
your entitled to your opinion pal but i think jj, john bog, dave owens, clarke, fergal, barry and kevin hartnett and chucky are more then good enough to get on for most sides in town.
have to agree with you about dave owens fine player and a nice lad
On The Ball
25/05/2009, 9:40 PM
mark hannon is a fine player who did well to come back from a bad injury if im not mistaken?i think that him,david owens,john mc,jj and maguire up front have worked hard to keep that team in the premier the last 2 years.young hartnett has the makings of being a good player.i dont agree with you that fergal would get on alot of other teams.he is dog lazy and you wouldt see him for dust when the going gets tough.ive watched afew games of corbally this year and hes not kicked a ball in hardly any of them.all ive seen is chucky and owens giving there all and carrying around 6 wasters.maybe with a different team o connell might have a better attitude but for me you can be as handy as you want but if the heart and desire aint there you might as well forget it.regarding your post on ex players
1- aido fitz
2-ian dunworth
3-ronan sherlock
4-peter ryan
5-john o dwyer
6-danny hanley
7-dee ryan
8-alan carroll
9-nicky carroll.
all 7 except the 2 carrolls who i think are abroad are playing premier in town with other clubs.corbally would be a different team who would be well up the table if them 7 were with them.i cant see any of them going back though.they all seem to be doing well with there respective clubs.
i think corbally need massive changes to get up the table.wembley,AA and regional have consolidated themselves in premier comfortably over the last few seasons.of the other promtoted teams granville and corbally have struggled bigtime because i feel they cant keep players and cant attract good enough players.
that was my point too.Owens is good i suppose.Ive seen o connell destroy players,he is pretty windy though.if they cant get any of them players back they'll be struggling every season.theyve good facilities so you'd wonder why people wouldnt sign,theres a massive catchment in corbally.
abbeyvale
25/05/2009, 10:46 PM
mark hannon is a fine player who did well to come back from a bad injury if im not mistaken?i think that him,david owens,john mc,jj and maguire up front have worked hard to keep that team in the premier the last 2 years.young hartnett has the makings of being a good player.i dont agree with you that fergal would get on alot of other teams.he is dog lazy and you wouldt see him for dust when the going gets tough.ive watched afew games of corbally this year and hes not kicked a ball in hardly any of them.all ive seen is chucky and owens giving there all and carrying around 6 wasters.maybe with a different team o connell might have a better attitude but for me you can be as handy as you want but if the heart and desire aint there you might as well forget it.regarding your post on ex players
1- aido fitz
2-ian dunworth
3-ronan sherlock
4-peter ryan
5-john o dwyer
6-danny hanley
7-dee ryan
8-alan carroll
9-nicky carroll.
all 7 except the 2 carrolls who i think are abroad are playing premier in town with other clubs.corbally would be a different team who would be well up the table if them 7 were with them.i cant see any of them going back though.they all seem to be doing well with there respective clubs.
i think corbally need massive changes to get up the table.wembley,AA and regional have consolidated themselves in premier comfortably over the last few seasons.of the other promtoted teams granville and corbally have struggled bigtime because i feel they cant keep players and cant attract good enough players.
Every club could have the same argument regarding ex players now playing Prem.........the problem is keeping your better players, and only a few clubs in town can do that.
Take Geraldines for instance, if they could have kept the players they lost over the last 10 seasons, added to that the great young players they have now, I have no doubts that they'd be fighting for the Premier Legaue title and maybe even the MJC & FAI.
Fair play to Pike, overall i thought it was a fairly good season with a lot of good games. Cant wait for next season already!:ball:
hoops12
26/05/2009, 1:20 AM
just like they did for corbally last season!:eek:
is it just me or is it every year this thread has something about balla throwing games,thats just the arrogance of balla pointless even talking about it cos it will happen again next year and the year after
gaidin
26/05/2009, 8:05 AM
is it just me or is it every year this thread has something about balla throwing games,thats just the arrogance of balla pointless even talking about it cos it will happen again next year and the year after
Arrogance or just not caring and disrespecting the league because they had nothing to play for?
If you look at the team that played Id say Paul Quinn and the keeper are the only regulars that played against Kilmallock. Where were all the other players? Problem with Balla is they need the players that didnt turn up because they cant attract anyone else to the club.
oscar
26/05/2009, 12:20 PM
we didnt stay up by beating balla my dear boy.we had 4 points 6 weeks ago and ended up beating regional,carew,granville and balla and drawing with corbally and dromore thus giving us 18 points.maybe all these teams had there b and c teams playing had they.jealousy is a mighty thing as it makes people talk a lot of **** on here.thanks to the hard graft and not throwing in the towel by our lads is why we stayed up.thanks to all the genuine people that congratulated us on this site and my phone.
well said and well done ye never gave up
well said and well done ye never gave up
thanks a lot
Football Alien
26/05/2009, 3:06 PM
well said and well done ye never gave up
in fairness would kilmallock have had their last match as easy if balla had a full strength side out?? obviously not and they should have been playin in balla as well, but they can only play under the circumstances and team put before them
over the season i reckon the worst 2 teams went down but in sayin that kilmallock and corbally werent that far ahead of them, i dont think wembley and carew were either. wembley were consistent over the season at gettin the required results while Carew, Corbally, and Kilmallock were only getting them sporadically! it was a long hard season and at least these teams live to fight another day and try and build on the season!
slim-jim
26/05/2009, 3:47 PM
mark hannon is a fine player who did well to come back from a bad injury if im not mistaken?i think that him,david owens,john mc,jj and maguire up front have worked hard to keep that team in the premier the last 2 years.young hartnett has the makings of being a good player.i dont agree with you that fergal would get on alot of other teams.he is dog lazy and you wouldt see him for dust when the going gets tough.ive watched afew games of corbally this year and hes not kicked a ball in hardly any of them.all ive seen is chucky and owens giving there all and carrying around 6 wasters.maybe with a different team o connell might have a better attitude but for me you can be as handy as you want but if the heart and desire aint there you might as well forget it.regarding your post on ex players
1- aido fitz
2-ian dunworth
3-ronan sherlock
4-peter ryan
5-john o dwyer
6-danny hanley
7-dee ryan
8-alan carroll
9-nicky carroll.
all 7 except the 2 carrolls who i think are abroad are playing premier in town with other clubs.corbally would be a different team who would be well up the table if them 7 were with them.i cant see any of them going back though.they all seem to be doing well with there respective clubs.
i think corbally need massive changes to get up the table.wembley,AA and regional have consolidated themselves in premier comfortably over the last few seasons.of the other promtoted teams granville and corbally have struggled bigtime because i feel they cant keep players and cant attract good enough players.
And the question is why have all these players left the club, their pulling players from the b and c teams who are'nt good enough,half the players in the A squad are'nt good enough,they've been in the relagation battle for the last few seasons so its only a matter of time before they go down, i mean it would be a ideal position for a well known manager to come in and shake things up bring in a few players and make a go of it
Roadend
26/05/2009, 4:18 PM
And the question is why have all these players left the club, their pulling players from the b and c teams who are'nt good enough,half the players in the A squad are'nt good enough,they've been in the relagation battle for the last few seasons so its only a matter of time before they go down, i mean it would be a ideal position for a well known manager to come in and shake things up bring in a few players and make a go of it
Like Pa Mull, you shouldn't really comment on what you know absolutely nothing about in fairness.
Goals4fun
26/05/2009, 5:22 PM
And the question is why have all these players left the club, their pulling players from the b and c teams who are'nt good enough,half the players in the A squad are'nt good enough,they've been in the relagation battle for the last few seasons so its only a matter of time before they go down, i mean it would be a ideal position for a well known manager to come in and shake things up bring in a few players and make a go of it
cue d finnan.....
where would a new manager gets a few players....?
On The Ball
26/05/2009, 7:51 PM
And the question is why have all these players left the club, their pulling players from the b and c teams who are'nt good enough,half the players in the A squad are'nt good enough,they've been in the relagation battle for the last few seasons so its only a matter of time before they go down, i mean it would be a ideal position for a well known manager to come in and shake things up bring in a few players and make a go of it
Like Pa Mullally did?
slim-jim
26/05/2009, 8:10 PM
Like Pa Mull, you shouldn't really comment on what you know absolutely nothing about in fairness.
well maybe you should tell us what we're ALLOWED to comment about?????
cue d finnan.....
where would a new manager gets a few players....?
i think mr finnan would be aoutside corballys price range being honest.id be very surprised to see that happen
that was my point too.Owens is good i suppose.Ive seen o connell destroy players,he is pretty windy though.if they cant get any of them players back they'll be struggling every season.theyve good facilities so you'd wonder why people wouldnt sign,theres a massive catchment in corbally.
a massive catchment area with little interest in junior soccer i reckon.you could argue that caherdavin is the same but where are they?1B.also with all the people in shannon you would think they would have a top premier team.again they dont.you would think that a large catchment area would surely get you 15 players.i think it doesnt really matter going on the above examples
Every club could have the same argument regarding ex players now playing Prem.........the problem is keeping your better players, and only a few clubs in town can do that.
Take Geraldines for instance, if they could have kept the players they lost over the last 10 seasons, added to that the great young players they have now, I have no doubts that they'd be fighting for the Premier Legaue title and maybe even the MJC & FAI.
id agree fully with you on this one.
1-paul dillon.2-niall nestor.3-bobby ryan.4-glen houlihan.5-alan morton
6-tommy barrett.7-nollie collopy.8-mark hedderman.9-stephen walsh.
10-brian buckley.11-alan barry.12-derek o neill.13- leonard o grady.
id say every above player is still under 30.pity not more of them stuck with the dines and gave junior a shot.i can only think it was down to bad facilities and not great management to keep them together.
id agree fully with you on this one.
1-paul dillon.2-niall nestor.3-bobby ryan.4-glen houlihan.5-alan morton
6-tommy barrett.7-nollie collopy.8-mark hedderman.9-stephen walsh.
10-brian buckley.11-alan barry.12-derek o neill.13- leonard o grady.
id say every above player is still under 30.pity not more of them stuck with the dines and gave junior a shot.i can only think it was down to bad facilities and not great management to keep them together.
agree with all above except alan morton,he must be in his early 40's:D
that was my point too.Owens is good i suppose.Ive seen o connell destroy players,he is pretty windy though.if they cant get any of them players back they'll be struggling every season.theyve good facilities so you'd wonder why people wouldnt sign,theres a massive catchment in corbally.
so have i.didnt the lad get a hatrick against carrick afew years back?i saw that game and he tore them apart.ive seen them at least 4 times in the last 2 years since that game tho and have just felt he hasnt done a stroke.a pity cause the talent is there.reminds me of young hanrahan up in pike when having a good game.very similar style.for me though he needs a fresh start with a new team if he is to realise the potential he has, cause if he stays where he is he will not change attitude wise and will still tend to go missing in games.
agree with all above except alan morton,he must be in his early 40's:D
he will love that one mulla:D
abbeyvale
26/05/2009, 10:22 PM
id agree fully with you on this one.
1-paul dillon.2-niall nestor.3-bobby ryan.4-glen houlihan.5-alan morton
6-tommy barrett.7-nollie collopy.8-mark hedderman.9-stephen walsh.
10-brian buckley.11-alan barry.12-derek o neill.13- leonard o grady.
id say every above player is still under 30.pity not more of them stuck with the dines and gave junior a shot.i can only think it was down to bad facilities and not great management to keep them together.
Davey Wall, John Collopy, Derek Hannon, Keith McNicholas, Ger Barron, Eddie Wallace, Pa McGarry, Pa Mullins, Yellow Lyons, Lou Quigley, Darren Walsh, Conor Croke, Mike Carey, Johnny Carey, Peter Clarke, Aled Harkin, Christy O'Neill, Brian Collopy, Mark Nunan, the list goes on and on, you could easily pick a squad of 16 top players from the above that would come close to winning an FAI & MJC.
And Im sure ive left out numerous other players .......................
abbeyvale
26/05/2009, 10:23 PM
agree with all above except alan morton,he must be in his early 40's:D
30 years old next week bud........................
blinkx
26/05/2009, 10:40 PM
You could say that about at least half a dozen teams if not more, the fact of the matter is if a players any bit ambitious he'll gravitate towards the teams that are there at the end of a season competing for honours. Simple as. Club loyalty these days is a fickle fickle thing...
Goals4fun
27/05/2009, 7:14 AM
a massive catchment area with little interest in junior soccer i reckon.you could argue that caherdavin is the same but where are they?1B.also with all the people in shannon you would think they would have a top premier team.again they dont.you would think that a large catchment area would surely get you 15 players.i think it doesnt really matter going on the above examples
too many decent players spread between the teams in shannon which does not make a very strong team. some players even left shannon to play with good teams.
pity really as when shannon town had all the good youths/17's , they got to a youth fai semi. then park got the pick of the players a few years back and got to the junior fai 1/4....
good catchment area in shannon alright but the players do not want to play with the best team....
tedd11
27/05/2009, 4:11 PM
Davey Wall, John Collopy, Derek Hannon, Keith McNicholas, Ger Barron, Eddie Wallace, Pa McGarry, Pa Mullins, Yellow Lyons, Lou Quigley, Darren Walsh, Conor Croke, Mike Carey, Johnny Carey, Peter Clarke, Aled Harkin, Christy O'Neill, Brian Collopy, Mark Nunan, the list goes on and on, you could easily pick a squad of 16 top players from the above that would come close to winning an FAI & MJC.
And Im sure ive left out numerous other players .......................
dared will be disapointed you didnt name him amongst the past gerldine greats abbeyvale.:Dalso i thought pat mc garry played all his ball with pike underage?he was with them as long as i can remember anyway
footie freak
27/05/2009, 4:27 PM
too many decent players spread between the teams in shannon which does not make a very strong team. some players even left shannon to play with good teams.
pity really as when shannon town had all the good youths/17's , they got to a youth fai semi. then park got the pick of the players a few years back and got to the junior fai 1/4....
good catchment area in shannon alright but the players do not want to play with the best team....
very sorry goals for fun completley going disagree with u, ther are the bones of 15 to 20 players spread out between the clubs in shannon, as already said, that would be up to standard of premier football in limerick and speakin from my own point of view those lads who would be good enough would jump at the opurtunity to play in premier with any club if they got a tap on the shoulder.
its not the the lads in shannon dont want to play for the best clubs its the oppurtunity was never given to them. shannon would be a great catch for any manager in premier to scout a few players through info and watchin pre season games, before any forms are out or signed
dared will be disapointed you didnt name him amongst the past gerldine greats abbeyvale.:Dalso i thought pat mc garry played all his ball with pike underage?he was with them as long as i can remember anyway
Think Pa played a friendly with Geraldines schoolboys once :rolleyes:
Goals4fun
27/05/2009, 6:47 PM
very sorry goals for fun completley going disagree with u, ther are the bones of 15 to 20 players spread out between the clubs in shannon, as already said, that would be up to standard of premier football in limerick and speakin from my own point of view those lads who would be good enough would jump at the opurtunity to play in premier with any club if they got a tap on the shoulder.
its not the the lads in shannon dont want to play for the best clubs its the oppurtunity was never given to them. shannon would be a great catch for any manager in premier to scout a few players through info and watchin pre season games, before any forms are out or signed
i think you are missing my point. these 15-20pllayers if they really wanted that would get together , sign with the top shannon team (highest division) and trya nd win something decent. unfortunately they are only content with playing in the lower leagues and enjoying the local tournaments against each other...
Roadend
28/05/2009, 8:58 AM
dared will be disapointed you didnt name him amongst the past gerldine greats abbeyvale.:remember anyway
How many goals did he score for that minor team again?? :)
abbeyvale
28/05/2009, 12:08 PM
Think Pa played a friendly with Geraldines schoolboys once :rolleyes:
Pa McGarry played a full season with Dines minor, I also forgot to mention Pa & David Moloney
Lev Yashin
28/05/2009, 12:16 PM
too many decent players spread between the teams in shannon which does not make a very strong team. some players even left shannon to play with good teams.
pity really as when shannon town had all the good youths/17's , they got to a youth fai semi. then park got the pick of the players a few years back and got to the junior fai 1/4....
good catchment area in shannon alright but the players do not want to play with the best team....
Not all of us jumped ship then....:D
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