Stephen Ireland

[bellavistaman]

His no shows are all conjecture and hearsay, come lads get your heads out of the sand, the man has no intention of playing for his country and we need him like a hole in the head, if we bow to his tantrums or however you want to discribe his behaviour we might as well tell the whole squad just to turn up whenever it suits

bar kilbane, the majority do

[Greenforever]

bar kilbane, the majority do

and robbie keane shay given richard dunne damian duff (when not injured) and which of them lost two grannies in a week:D

[bellavistaman]

if the way people talk on here everybody should be screaming for as many caps why did nobody bar kilbane go to usa, because he loves playing for ireland means the world to him

[Stuttgart88]

Well said, the only official quotes from Ireland are that he wants to meet Trapattoni and he never told anybody he didn't want to play for his country.
Everything else is conjecture and hearsay.Exactly. My own best guess is that he hates the atmosphere in the squad, particularly the alleged bullying, and that he wants to tell Trap this and to make sure he's aware of all the issues. If Trap assures him he'll cut it all out then I expect he'll "come back".

With all our players available I can't wait to see how Trap sets us out.

[Razors left peg]

...and we finished 11 points off qualification.

More importantly, what's he given us since September 9th last?? :confused:

are u really saying that its Steven Irelands fault that we finished 11 points off qualification????

[Paddy Garcia]

are u really saying that its Steven Irelands fault that we finished 11 points off qualification????

It's clearly his Granny's fault.

[John83]

It's clearly his Granny's fault.
No, his other granny.

On a more serious note, you're paying attention to mypost. :eek:

[Razors left peg]

No, his other granny.

On a more serious note, you're paying attention to mypost. :eek:
Fair point!

[Paddy Garcia]

Time for bed!

Reminds me of the Two Ronnies Mastermind - providing the answer to the previous question - as it were:o

[kingdom hoop]

More importantly, what's he given us since September 9th last?? :confused:

Hasn't he given you the chance to be the obnoxious so-and-so that you love being? Some people are just never happy. :p

[Greenforever]

if the way people talk on here everybody should be screaming for as many caps why did nobody bar kilbane go to usa, because he loves playing for ireland means the world to him

jesus even we didnt go the the states, but were in aarhus & will be in fullham:D

[Reality Bites]

For anyone to say with don't need Ireland, just take a look at his goal against Fulham on saturday again, without doubt the most naturally talented player in the Squad, I would think the whole stephen ireland issue will be fielded at Traps conference this coming Thursdays

[BigmanCas]

For anyone to say with don't need Ireland, just take a look at his goal against Fulham on saturday again, without doubt the most naturally talented player in the Squad, I would think the whole stephen ireland issue will be fielded at Traps conference this coming Thursdays

Goal or not on sat. he will not make Trapps first XI. He will have watched the videos of Nicosia and Bratislava and concluded that he is not ready for international football. All well and good getting the odd goal now and then but defensively he is a non entity. Sadly International footballers need to be good defenders. Stephan take a wee break.

[John83]

Goal or not on sat. he will not make Trapps first XI. He will have watched the videos of Nicosia and Bratislava and concluded that he is not ready for international football. All well and good getting the odd goal now and then but defensively he is a non entity. Sadly International footballers need to be good defenders. Stephan take a wee break.
As an Italian, he may be a bit more inclined to try some system with two midfielders behind Ireland in a attacking role. That said, our wingers are a sight better than our centre mids at the moment, so maybe not.

[Reality Bites]

Goal or not on sat. he will not make Trapps first XI. He will have watched the videos of Nicosia and Bratislava and concluded that he is not ready for international football. All well and good getting the odd goal now and then but defensively he is a non entity. Sadly International footballers need to be good defenders. Stephan take a wee break.

Boulderdash, who would you have in Midfield ahead of Stephen Ireland! he is . I would Suggest a five man midfield with Stephen Ireland in an advanced role, like gerrard sometimes plays with liverpool supporting torre i.e Andy Reid (left) Stephen Reid(mid) - Carsley (mid) Mcgeady (right)
in the hole (Stephen Ireland)
up front (R Keane).

For me doyle and duff just haven't done it this season and should be on the bench.

[jmurphyc]

Boulderdash, who would you have in Midfield ahead of Stephen Ireland! he is . I would Suggest a five man midfield with Stephen Ireland in an advanced role, like gerrard sometimes plays with liverpool supporting torre i.e Andy Reid (left) Stephen Reid(mid) - Carsley (mid) Mcgeady (right)
in the hole (Stephen Ireland)
up front (R Keane).

For me doyle and duff just haven't done it this season and should be on the bench.

IMO it's insanity to put our best central midfielder (Andy Reid) out on the wings. He'll lose a lot of his impact by being out there. Andy Reid is essential in the centre (provided he's fit) and I seriously doubt that Trapattoni will play him on the wings. There's probably about 10 other Irish players I'd want to stick out there before trying Reid there. The role doesn't do him justice.

[mypost]

mental issues me hole, he's simply doesnt want to play for his country, the whole point is what mypost was saying that he wants to meet up with trap to see if he'll be bothered to play, he feels no pride in his country no sense of patriotism, its those traits that make him a traitor nothing to do with his mental state

This prima donna wants to meet "Il Gaffa" on his terms, not the other way around. That alone should be enough to give Trap the hint that he has no commitment to his country.

If he wants to play for us, then it's quite simple. Turn up, shut up, and play without quibble, like everyone else will.

[Superhoops]

....I would Suggest a five man midfield with Stephen Ireland in an advanced role, like gerrard sometimes plays with liverpool supporting torre i.e Andy Reid (left) Stephen Reid(mid) - Carsley (mid) Mcgeady (right) in the hole (Stephen Ireland) up front (R Keane).......

Our best midfielder banished to the wing to accommodate 'vision in pink' with one player up front. That's going to get us loads of goals :confused:

[Greenforever]

This prima donna wants to meet "Il Gaffa" on his terms, not the other way around. That alone should be enough to give Trap the hint that he has no commitment to his country.

If he wants to play for us, then it's quite simple. Turn up, shut up, and play without quibble, like everyone else will.

Could't put it better, agree completely, and hopefully we will not have to put up with SI's crap attitude much longer.

[kingdom hoop]

If he wants to play for us, then it's quite simple. Turn up, shut up, and play without quibble, like everyone else will.

Don't you think it's a good idea for the manager to know what his problem is before the squad meets up?

We want to be fully focussed on football, so if he doesn't want to play then better to discover that now so as not to cast a shadow over the May meet-up by him unexpectedly withdrawing or not showing up.

[RogerMilla]

if stephen ireland was bullied in the squad that is unacceptable.
if he wasnt , well he should have been !

[jmurphyc]

If he wants to play for us, then it's quite simple. Turn up, shut up, and play without quibble, like everyone else will.

I don't think Ireland has acted particularly professionally since he left the squad, but then again I don't know all of the facts. Let's just assume that he was bullied (because we have no idea what went on in the camp) and he just turns up to the next squad without saying a word about the incident. If the event happens again (and to more than one player) then there could be a lot more problems than just the Stephen Ireland conundrum for Trapattoni. It would be completely unprofessional of Trapattoni not to address the issue of bullying if it did happen during the Easterrn European games.

[Greenforever]

For anyone to say with don't need Ireland, just take a look at his goal against Fulham on saturday again, without doubt the most naturally talented player in the Squad, I would think the whole stephen ireland issue will be fielded at Traps conference this coming Thursdays

And one player doesnt make a team but can break a team!

Can you not see the negative effect he has on the rest of the squad with his childish tantrums and pink alloys :D

[BigmanCas]

And one player doesnt make a team but can break a team!

Can you not see the negative effect he has on the rest of the squad with his childish tantrums and pink alloys :D

His attitude stinks. His past performances in a green shirt have been abysmal - Nicosia and Bratislava in particular. Whether he got a screamer or not at the weekend should not come into it. Waken up and see the guy for who he really is - if he doesn't fancy it - forget about him. Erickkson took him off after 56 mins - he could have been that good at the weekend.

[tetsujin1979]

His attitude stinks. His past performances in a green shirt have been abysmal - Nicosia and Bratislava in particular. Whether he got a screamer or not at the weekend should not come into it. Waken up and see the guy for who he really is - if he doesn't fancy it - forget about him. Erickkson took him off after 56 mins - he could have been that good at the weekend.Geovanni came on for Ireland, and most reports I've seen that losing Ireland was what cost City the game, Geovanni did nothing.

[jmurphyc]

His attitude stinks. His past performances in a green shirt have been abysmal - Nicosia and Bratislava in particular.

I'm not a masive fan of the guy (outside of football) from what I've seen of him. He seems like the classic modern day footballer. However, whilst he has been so-so if an Ireland shirt so far, to say he has been abysmal is taking it too far. He was abysmal in those two games, but in the other qualification games he has been pretty decent. He was MOTM against San Marion IMO (granted it was a woeful team performance). In that game he ws the only player trying to make things happen and he was also very good against Slovakia at CP from what I remember, and was good against Wales once he was moved inside. I think he has to improve a lot to stake a claim for a regular starting spot but whilst some perfomances have been abysmal, they haven't been overall.

[eirebhoy]

I see Niko Kranjcar is linked with Arsenal this week. I think himself and Ireland are on a similar level. Kranjcar got abuse from the Croatia fans for a long time because his performances weren't up to scratch and they thought he was getting picked because his father was the coach.

[geysir]

Well, if his performances weren't up to scratch and his father was the coach combined with fans abusive mob mentality, it all makes perfect sense.

[lionelhutz]

Geovanni came on for Ireland, and most reports I've seen that losing Ireland was what cost City the game, Geovanni did nothing.

I was at the game. Ireland was invisible after his goal. Him coming off had absolutely nothing to do with City's implosion - the attitude of the whole City team (Ireland included) was awful after they went 2-0 up

[Stuttgart88]

I see Niko Kranjcar is linked with Arsenal this week. I think himself and Ireland are on a similar level. Kranjcar got abuse from the Croatia fans for a long time because his performances weren't up to scratch and they thought he was getting picked because his father was the coach.Is Krancjar not a much bigger player than Ireland? I know I keep harping on about size but it counts!

[eekers]

trap meet stephen ireland in manchester today .

apparently he expects ireland, finnan and obrien to make a return to the squad.

[bellavistaman]

trap meet stephen ireland in manchester today .

apparently he expects ireland, finnan and obrien to make a return to the squad.

Source??

And your signature doesnt work

[cavan_fan]

http://www.ireland.com/sports/soccer/2008/0506/1210062076804.html

[Greenforever]

Source??

And your signature doesnt work

www.fai.ie (http://www.fai.ie)

[Superhoops]

www.fai.ie (http://www.fai.ie)

Something may be lost in translation but: After the meetings concluded, Giovanni Trapattoni said: “I had very good meetings with all three players. The discussions I have had with them have been very positive and I am confident there is a very good possibility that they will return to play for their country.” doesn't sound to me like there was any definite commitment from any of the players.

[kingdom hoop]

Pretty thin line you're drawing though to be fair:


I had very good meetings with all three players. The discussions I have had with them have been very positive and I am confident there is a very good possibility that they will return to play for their country.”

All sounds very good to me. Why worry?

[theworm2345]

Pretty thin line you're drawing though to be fair:



All sounds very good to me. Why worry?
He's just saying what he is supposed to say in the situation, it could be the truth, but it could mean anything.

[kingdom hoop]

Then he'll look very foolish if they don't play! If one of them said they wouldn't then I'd imagine a forthright character like Jovani wouldn't spin some rubbish. So if they've gone from definitely not playing again, to probably playing again, I'd say they definitely will play again. :)

[geysir]

Then he'll look very foolish if they don't play!
On the contrary the players would look very very bad if they refuse the invitation to return. Imagine making such a nice old man, an Italian gent, come all that way to talk to them and him full of positivity and generosity (probably bearing a gift of a bottle of wine as well) and not a mean word out of Trap afterwards.

[kingdom hoop]

Probably offered his hot interpreter's 'services' to them as well to seal the deal. No doubt Daddy Dick pounced.

[Sliogán Dóite]

I see Niko Kranjcar is linked with Arsenal this week. I think himself and Ireland are on a similar level. Kranjcar got abuse from the Croatia fans for a long time because his performances weren't up to scratch and they thought he was getting picked because his father was the coach.


Well, if his performances weren't up to scratch and his father was the coach combined with fans abusive mob mentality, it all makes perfect sense.


Yes, Stephen Ireland is Steven Staunton's lovechild!





And your signature doesnt work
Presume its supposed to be this. (http://www.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0120901/2)

[pateen]

Something may be lost in translation but: Giovanni Trapattoni said: “I had very good meetings with all three players. The discussions I have had with them have been very positive and I am confident there is a very good possibility that they will return to play for their country.”

And a genius too.
Traps english has come a long way since the press conference :D

[antrimgreen]

I'm just delighted we have an experienced manager in to do the job, relax people Stan is away, i am sure Trap will make great decisions, hopefully those above will return if not then we will just move on and forget about them.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Says in one of the tabloids today that Andy O'Brien is likely to go to Portugal but Stephen Ireland didn't want to go on the trip and isn't available for the two games against Serbia and Columbia but may be back after the summer. Am sick of the little sh1t at this stage, he can fcuk off as far as I'm concerned.

Mind you, that's taken from a tabloid so I'll retract that if it turns out to be BS!

[Morbo]

Ha, does he think he is too good to do friendlies now? at least heave the decency to pretend you're injured for friendlies like most other players do, the ego on this idiot is something else, I really don't think he is worth the hassle anymore, good news on O'Brien at least, he is nothing special but our defence should be slightly less dodgy with him partnering Dunne than O'Shea

[geysir]

Says in one of the tabloids today that Andy O'Brien is likely to go to Portugal but Stephen Ireland didn't want to go on the trip and isn't available for the two games against Serbia and Columbia but may be back after the summer. Am sick of the little sh1t at this stage, he can fcuk off as far as I'm concerned.

Mind you, that's taken from a tabloid so I'll retract that if it turns out to be BS!
That's called a conditional discharge :)

[amaccann]

The phrase "more trouble than it's worth" continues to spring to mind when it comes to Stephen Ireland.

[placid casual]

The phrase "more trouble than it's worth" continues to spring to mind when it comes to Stephen Ireland.

funnily enough the phrase that keeps popping up to me is
" he's from cork,what do you expect"

[The Legend]

funnily enough the phrase that keeps popping up to me is
" he's from cork,what do you expect"

Let me speak on behalf of all fellow Corkonians on here when i say ("f**k you, boy!) :D

No need for a ban, tongue is in cheek...

[SilkCut]

The guy is over rated. If he doesnt want to improve his profile and ability as a professional player and test himself against the best on the international stage then let him rot at city. Chris Sutton never achieved his full potential after the "B" cap thing. The same will happen with this tiresome little pr#*k (pr#@k).