Stephen Ireland

[tetsujin1979]

How the mighty have fallen, he cant even get off the bench anymore.
bit of an over-reaction, it was his first game back after an injury

[Deckydee]

bit of an over-reaction, it was his first game back after an injury

agree

[Deckydee]

Yeah me 2 - I'd love to be able to stay in touch with Irish TV

Yes! - PLEASE PM me too :o

[Manblue]

How the mighty have fallen, he cant even get off the bench anymore. Which brings me to note: maybe he will need us more than we need him.
I can see him calling Trap any minute to convince him to include him in the Brazil game. This way he can show off and maybe someone will swoop in with a bid.

He trained for the first time a day before after being out with an injury since wolves game, wouldnt really call it bench warming,

You are very deluded so if you think Ireland would call trap for any game,,
I cant see how you dont understand he doesnt want to play...

I think enough teams have seen him play in the prem that he doesnt need to play in a friendly to get them to swoop should he show any dissatisfaction anyway.....

I thought ppl had finally put this issue to bed but clearly you were bidding your time for this one and prob thinking very hard too

[The Fly]

I doubt the status of the poll still applies.
With this in mind, should it not be run again..................or would that be a bit masochistic? :rolleyes:

[SkStu]

i was kind of hoping this thread would stay dead and that his career would match. Both are stuttering at the moment which is good to see.

[Crosby87]

He trained for the first time a day before after being out with an injury since wolves game, wouldnt really call it bench warming,

You are very deluded so if you think Ireland would call trap for any game,,
I cant see how you dont understand he doesnt want to play...

I think enough teams have seen him play in the prem that he doesnt need to play in a friendly to get them to swoop should he show any dissatisfaction anyway.....

I thought ppl had finally put this issue to bed but clearly you were bidding your time for this one and prob thinking very hard too

Ah I was just being sarcastic. Forget it. I know it has to be all serious here all the time. You Key Board Warriors are a tough breed Man Blue. But I thank God for you every day.

[Colbert Report]

Great assist for Ireland today against Scu nthorpe

[Deckydee]

Todays Star - Page 73 - Stephen Ireland coming back?

Dont shoot the messenger. No seriously dont

[TrapAPony]

Todays Star - Page 73 - Stephen Ireland coming back?

Dont shoot the messenger. No seriously dont

Love him or loathe him there's no doubt he's a talented player. Don't care what he did in the past,
it's what he can do for us in the future that I care about. I would welcome him back.

[The Fly]

Todays Star - Page 73 - Stephen Ireland coming back?

Dont shoot the messenger. No seriously dont

Do you have a link?

[yapster]

Ireland is too good a player and will regain his place with City. He doesn't want to play for Ireland anymore so lets just let it be..

[Deckydee]

Do you have a link?

No sorry I dont on this occassion (for once).

I dont think the star is online. Sorry about that

[Razors left peg]

For those that didnt get to see the story in the Star it said that Steven Ireland wants to talk to Sean McCaffrey about coming back. Apartantly he has a high respect for McCaffrey so he wants his opinions on a possible return to the national squad.

Im personally not holding my breath

[gustavo]

If he wants to come back it's Trap he should be talking to

[Razors left peg]

If he wants to come back it's Trap he should be talking to

no arguements about that from me

[Crosby87]

Are these stories EVER true? I mean the only thing that would have sealed it as being 100% wrong would be a quote from his father saying he is coming back.

[SkStu]

who cares? Hes a total pr1ck and i always said he would need us more than we need him at some stage. What will stop the little runt from throwing another strop and leaving somewhere down the line if his milk isnt poured into his tea the right way or something equally asinine. I for one am sick of hearing about him, seeing him and thinking about him. I couldnt care less and as i said now he needs us and he's come crawling back. Predictable. What a dick.

[Irish_Praha]

I'd be OK with him coming back but only if it's before the start of the campaign and if he goes to the training camp and plays in the May friendlies. No way should he be allowed to make a return in the first game or the middle of the of the qualifiers. He should also be told it's his last chance.

[backstothewall]

I doubt the status of the poll still applies.
With this in mind, should it not be run again..................or would that be a bit masochistic? :rolleyes:

I voted that I wanted him back, but events since then have changed that. he would need to stat with a GROVELLING apology

[Crosby87]

who cares? Hes a total pr1ck and i always said he would need us more than we need him at some stage. What will stop the little runt from throwing another strop and leaving somewhere down the line if his milk isnt poured into his tea the right way or something equally asinine. I for one am sick of hearing about him, seeing him and thinking about him. I couldnt care less and as i said now he needs us and he's come crawling back. Predictable. What a dick.

I think that is a little harsh Stu but I admit i would also wonder what would keep him from doing a Roy Keane the night before a big game in Moscow or something. It is fair to say it would always be a possibility.
With that said you seem like you are usually a pragmatic guy, and you wouldnt be sick of hearing him scoring or setting up much needed timely goals I dont think.

[backstothewall]

if nothing else, it would put the Andy Reid debate to bed

[seanfhear]

if nothing else, it would put the Andy Reid debate to bed
Sure if Andy had gone to bed in the first place then would that debate even need to take place !:D

[carloz]

I am sure now that his Man City career is thumbling down, that representing Ireland might appeal to him a little bit more. Says a lot about the guy. He wasn't even in the match day squad for their last game against Chelsea. To think that only 2 weeks after Hughes got sacked, Ireland was in the papers giving out about Hughes always playing him out of position. Ungrateful ****er

[SkStu]

I think that is a little harsh Stu but I admit i would also wonder what would keep him from doing a Roy Keane the night before a big game in Moscow or something. It is fair to say it would always be a possibility.
With that said you seem like you are usually a pragmatic guy, and you wouldnt be sick of hearing him scoring or setting up much needed timely goals I dont think.

i hear what youre saying Crosby but id like to think that id never like seeing him on an Irish teamsheet or celebrating one of his goals IF he ever decided to come back. The guys an egomaniac and has messed around with the team and the fans feelings for far too long. Im happy that he is sweating now. I was delighted that this thread was off the forum for so long and that he had been forgotten about. It bugs me that a lot of people would welcome a traitor like him back so quickly and yet question the Irishness of 2g's who have represented the country with such commitment.

[geysir]

Feb 2009
"Every game I go into, I go into with the mentality of a winner," Ireland said. "I want to win for myself, the team and especially for the gaffer because I think it's really important he stays. I really enjoy playing under him. A lot of the players are the same and want to win for him"

feb 2010
"The last six months under Mark Hughes was very frustrating for me," he told the FA's official website.
"I was being played out of position. Maybe as a holding midfielder, left wing, right wing. It is not me"

I assume the last 6 months were mid Nov 2008 to mid May 2009

[seanfhear]

To be honest I do not think that I could handle my concerns for his Grandmothers if he came back. Would we have to supply minders for all his relatives every game. Could we as a nation cope with the stress of worrying about his relatives.

[theworm2345]

What a tool, I don't want him back without a public apology.

[Crosby87]

i hear what youre saying Crosby but id like to think that id never like seeing him on an Irish teamsheet or celebrating one of his goals IF he ever decided to come back. The guys an egomaniac and has messed around with the team and the fans feelings for far too long. Im happy that he is sweating now. I was delighted that this thread was off the forum for so long and that he had been forgotten about. It bugs me that a lot of people would welcome a traitor like him back so quickly and yet question the Irishness of 2g's who have represented the country with such commitment.

Well said Stu...Good post.

I guess so far the people on here have spoken against it. I am all for it but i will remember (if of course he does come back) that I wanted him to if it doesnt go well.
Obviously I can see how people think he is too mental to commit to this. BUT at this point I would take it if it gets us to Brazil, Ukraine, Poland, whatever.....

[irishfan86]

I have flip flopped on this issue for a long time. I don't think he's handled this well, and he's clearly immature or has a very low IQ. That said, this is a new campaign, and if he participates from the very beginning (training camp onwards), and does everything Trap asks him to do, I say we give him a second chance.

If he f*cks up his second chance, then at least we will know that we were reasonable about it and did all we could. He was immature with many of his decisions, but I would expect Trap to show his wisdom by giving Ireland a second chance at an international career with us. If he screws us around, at least we will know that we were reasonable and did our part to make things work.

I'm not a religious man, but I think the story of a prodigal son is a good one, and perhaps on this occasion we should embrace the return of one of Ireland's sons to give him a shot at redemption.

[Razors left peg]

all this new optimism is coming from an article in last weeks Star and we havent heard anything about it elsewhere so I dont think we should be gettin too excited either way about the rights or wrongs of a possible return for him until we hear something more concrete

[Scooby Doo]

all this new optimism is coming from an article in last weeks Star and we havent heard anything about it elsewhere so I dont think we should be gettin too excited either way about the rights or wrongs of a possible return for him until we hear something more concrete
Exactly. There is nothing else anywhere to suggest that Ireland is considering crawling back. As far as I can see, the Stephen Ireland possible return thing has been The Star's baby for the last month or too. There was an 'exclusive' two weeks ago where it claimed that Mancini was a acting a as a mediator between Ireland and Trap. Bullsh!t imo. I wouldn't expect him back. He made his contempt for the national team clear and his obvious, spiteful attempts to upset the squad before important games (ie. the Italy game and playoff) with routine interviews where he states that he has no interest in international football/Trapattoni is arrogant etc, etc make me wonder do we ever want the little tw@t back. With Whelen, Andrews, S. Reid (hopefully!), McCarthy and possibly O'Hara, our midfield will be in good stead for the Euro qualifiers. Stephen Manchester will be busy warming the bench in the Europa League.

[SkStu]

he's a real gem. Someone we can all be proud of.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/slideshow/ireland/ireland_1.jpg

[bwagner]

Could he be more of an english chav? he reminds me of that thug that won the lotto a few years back, Something Carroll was his name.
Delighted he has been dropped.

[tetsujin1979]

Could he be more of an english chav? he reminds me of that thug that won the lotto a few years back, Something Carroll was his name.
Delighted he has been dropped.
Michael Carroll, he's blown most of his winnings, has been declared bankrupt and is on the dole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Carroll_(lottery_winner)

[SkStu]

Michael Carroll, he's blown most of his winnings, has been declared bankrupt and is on the dole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Carroll_(lottery_winner)

with a name like that surely he could declare for Ireland ?

[Razors left peg]

he's a real gem. Someone we can all be proud of.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/slideshow/ireland/ireland_1.jpg

I actually kinda like that car :embarrassed:

[bwagner]

:O) good sport lads, maybe Steven is also a friend of Mad Dog Adair and in fact it was he who turned him against playing for us!!!

[kev mcq]

Feb 2009
"Every game I go into, I go into with the mentality of a winner," Ireland said. "I want to win for myself, the team and especially for the gaffer because I think it's really important he stays. I really enjoy playing under him. A lot of the players are the same and want to win for him"

feb 2010
"The last six months under Mark Hughes was very frustrating for me," he told the FA's official website.
"I was being played out of position. Maybe as a holding midfielder, left wing, right wing. It is not me"

I assume the last 6 months were mid Nov 2008 to mid May 2009

You assume wrong. Hughes was sacked in December 2009, not May 2009.

[geysir]

Thanks for the correction.

I do hope he recovers from the trauma inflicted By Hughes on his game.

[tetsujin1979]

Article on Ireland's lack of progress under Mancini: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1200585_ireland_at_crossroads

[irishfan86]

I don't think Ireland is built for the conservative, Italian style. I've had similar doubts about how effective he'd be if he did come back to us.

[Serb]

He has barely featured at all in the league under Mancini. 5 games out of 12, subbed in 3 of them quite early on for left sided players (55th minute twice, 75th minute in another). Has he been playing on the left wing for Mancini when he has been on the pitch?

[seanfhear]

Mancini really really loves Grandmothers.

[yapster]

Mancini really really loves Grandmothers.


lol lol

[theworm2345]

Just now saw the derby highlights. On the goal he switches off and is watching the ball when he should be marking Scholes. Then after the ball goes in he holds up his arms as if to say "who the **** was marking him?" Grade A ****

[Yard of Pace]

Yeah, very poor from Ireland. Knowing how much playing for Ireland helped some of our players in the past when they were struggling at club level (McAteer, Glenn Whelan, Breen etc.)......I wonder will he come back...

[elroy]

Yeah, very poor from Ireland. Knowing how much playing for Ireland helped some of our players in the past when they were struggling at club level (McAteer, Glenn Whelan, Breen etc.)......I wonder will he come back...

With his attitude do we actually want him back?? Would he fit into the team, not in the current way we play. Having said that I would prefer all eligible top level players available to us than not.

[DeNiro]

I'd say he will leave City this summer. So, he might not need the international scene to get him back into the spotlight at club level

[carloz]

Just now saw the derby highlights. On the goal he switches off and is watching the ball when he should be marking Scholes. Then after the ball goes in he holds up his arms as if to say "who the **** was marking him?" Grade A ****

Yeah, noticed this. He looked around as if to blame someone, when it was 100% his own fault. He is getting everything he deserves know. The second Hughes left, he was giving out about him, saying that he always played him out of position. Bet he would prefer that to being a bench warmer. Looks a pale shadow of the player of last season