Stephen Ireland

[kingdomkerry]

PR stunt are you for real ffs take your head out of your hole and give the lad a break. Fair play to him. A legend im my opinion

I think your the one who needs to take your head out of your hole mate.

To call that tosser a legend is farcical. He would'nt lace the boots of Ireland legends like paul mcgrath.

His scum of the earth for refusing to play for his country and not giving a reason why not.

[gustavo]

I think your the one who needs to take your head out of your hole mate.

To call that tosser a legend is farcical. He would'nt lace the shoelaces of Ireland legends like paul mcgrath.

His scum of the earth for refusing to play for his country and not giving a reason why not.


You obviously rate him highly seeing as you're always on here venting your spleen with insults against him , He's not playing for us , I wouldn't call him a traitor it's disappointing and I'm sure he'll live to regret it , Scum of the earth is surely an over reaction

[osarusan]

He would'nt lace the shoelaces of Ireland legends like paul mcgrath.

You can't lace shoelaces;)

[Éire Óg]

Jesus wept....

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45653000/jpg/_45653450_ireladn2_getty_226.jpg

[cartman]

I think your the one who needs to take your head out of your hole mate.

To call that tosser a legend is farcical. He would'nt lace the shoelaces of Ireland legends like paul mcgrath.

His scum of the earth for refusing to play for his country and not giving a reason why not.


im sorry kingdomkerry, but you are comparing stephen ireland to paul mcgrath in a negative way!! did paul mcgrath not walk out on ireland due to his drinking also, which was never looked on so hysterically by irish fans..

you are being both immature and irresponsible saying such things about stephen ireland - i have no doubt in years to come he will turn out to be a great irish player and will be then be fondly remembered by irish fans..

let me ask if paul mcgrath was not such a superb player, would he not have been castigated by the irish public when he walked out on the squad??

[geysir]

You obviously rate him highly seeing as you're always on here venting your spleen with insults against him , He's not playing for us , I wouldn't call him a traitor it's disappointing and I'm sure he'll live to regret it , Scum of the earth is surely an over reaction
Just because he might possibly live to regret it does not mean that people can not have strong opinions about the actions now.
If you leave this thread wide open in the Ireland forum, posters are always going to come and vent spleen however irrational. Those are the opinions SI attracts.
This thread is a festering wound in this forum.

[gustavo]

If people stop posting in it , it will disappear off the front page

[geysir]

.......If......

[strangeirish]

Censoring discussion of a popular relevant topic on a discussion forum, brilliant idea........Who said anything about censoring?

[SUB of the day]

PR stunt are you for real ffs take your head out of your hole and give the lad a break. Fair play to him. A legend im my opinion
Throw the toys from the pram when bold Mr Kerr doesn't pick you on team for Daddy to see you.Announce the death of Granny in Cobh ( news to her), announce the death of Granny in London ( news to her also).Accept and never repay FAI for private jet.Walk away from your country, but never say never like.Legend my arse!

[bellavistaman]

Imagine a player in your home town promised captaincy in front of us all, and dropped. Why? Because hes the most talented player on the team? Kerrs a muppet, nearly ruined a career before it even started. The talent he has, the way hes played so far, the strike rate hes achieved for the country is superb, the granny thing is regretable but god knows what was going on in his head, his girlfriend had a abortion, he could have went out and played and played terribly or do the right thing get home to his family, the way he went back was terrible, ill be the first to admit it, but build a bloody bridge, he said hes got death threats, would you go to work if nobody wanted you there, do the likes of don givens and liam brady and these muppets who threaten his life, do these people make him feel welcome as long as this hatred continues and senior management in the fai keep harping on hows he public villian no.1 i dont blame him for staying away!! Think we might never have a player of his talent again its a football team afterall and we wont forgive the "grannygate" incident! Unbelievable, you should be made welcome if your good enough, if he's a tosser so be it, he maybe half mad but on the pitch hes a model pro has NEVER let ireland down ON the field in fact hes been quiet heroic. :eek::)

Clearly he needs pampering which mark hughes gives him why cant we attempt it, paul mcgrath was so good we got on with the flaws, why cant we with stephen ireland i said it last year i'l say it again he has the potential to be a world class player. Is he not worth it, he could be the difference between getting to a world cup and not, and more iportantly having a great world cup and not!!

[SkStu]

there is one fatal flaw in your argument there bvm, he is such an Irish legend he wont pick up the phone and say he's back if we want him. Thats all it would take and he cant find it in himself to do it.

[bellavistaman]

Ya but could you seriously say with all the hatred following here in ireland you could blame him for not wanting to come back?

[SkStu]

its a major character flaw that the guy hasnt got the cojones to man up and put everything behind him and come back to the squad. You talk about Irish fans building bridges, the same applies to him.

[bellavistaman]

its a major character flaw that the guy hasnt got the cojones to man up and put everything behind him and come back to the squad. You talk about Irish fans building bridges, the same applies to him.

Fiar enough i can accept that, nice to have a sensible arguement on this topic. Good man!!:)

[SkStu]

ditto. I also agree that the Irish team would be far better with him in it. But it really is up to him at this stage.

[Emmet7]

Not only is the ball in Stephen Ireland's court, but there are many many balls in Stephen Ireland's court, all sent there by the Irish management team. The more you go after Stephen Ireland, the more he resists, so it's best just to ignore him and let him come back if he wants to.

The issue is out of the Irish managements hands, its now in Stephen Irelands hands...but really its all time we forgot about Stephen Ireland coming back to play for us...the door is always open, he had his chance and he has turned it down...his loss not ours.

Give me an honest hard working committed Whelan, Gibson, etc any day to a player who couldn't be bothered.

[bellavistaman]

Give me an honest hard working committed Whelan, Gibson, etc any day to a player who couldn't be bothered.

Seriously? Sure ill play so!!

[Stuttgart88]

Seriously? Sure ill play so!!
Are you as good as them? I'll take a wild punt and say no.

[bellavistaman]

Are you as good as them? I'll take a wild punt and say no.

Your moneys safe.:D But he didnt mention the key word TALENT, we need talented players we have too many "honest" players, i do like whelan to be fair, but whelan and andrew is a big no no for me, one or the other.

[geysir]

Clearly he needs pampering which mark hughes gives him why cant we attempt it
Man City pay SI a fortune to commit to train and play.


paul mcgrath was so good we got on with the flaws
Paul McGrath wanted to play for his country despite his character flaws.
And when he did let his team down, he felt bad, owned up and had the support and understanding of his manager and team mates.
SI has had the same support offered to him. He chosen to stay away, hiding behind a web of incredible denial, all of his own creation.



Ya but could you seriously say with all the hatred following here in ireland you could blame him for not wanting to come back?
Nonsense.
Here some 80% wanted him back in a poll right after his escapades.
He was given an award by the FAI (after an fan poll) for that season.

Trappatoni visited him personally and invited him back, Trap was confident the player would return. SI denied this meeting even took place.

SI is a gobs**** and regardless of future results I have full confidence that Trap had handled this situation with sensitivity and maturity.

[Fizzer]

Stop comparing Ireland with McGrath, a man who played injured on more than one occasion. He had painkilling injections before the Italy game in 94 and almost singlehandedly kept them at bay. He was a genius, albeit flawed, but a true Irish legend. Stephen Ireland has let us down, badly, and the stupid baldy clown should never be let near the Irish team again.

[SUB of the day]

Thats the point Bellavista, he could well be the difference between us qualifying and not, but he chooses to turn his back.If you remove your understandable Cobh bias from the argument, you must admit this to be the case.

[bellavistaman]

Thats the point Bellavista, he could well be the difference between us qualifying and not, but he chooses to turn his back.If you remove your understandable Cobh bias from the argument, you must admit this to be the case.

Na cobh bias staying with me:D

[Colbert Report]

Unbelieveable goal from Ireland today against Fulham. He took the ball from well inside his own half, ran forty yards, and tucked the ball into the net from well outside the penalty area.

Good God we need this guy back in the team. What a special, special player.

[SUB of the day]

Unbelieveable goal from Ireland today against Fulham. He took the ball from well inside his own half, ran forty yards, and tucked the ball into the net from well outside the penalty area.

Good God we need this guy back in the team. What a special, special player.

Not mentioning the serious deflection is being too economical with the truth.

[Colbert Report]

Not mentioning the serious deflection is being too economical with the truth.

Apologies, I honestly didn't see the deflection at the time. Must have been blind. Great goal anyhow.

[Superhoops]

Unbelieveable goal from Ireland today against Fulham. He took the ball from well inside his own half, ran forty yards, and tucked the ball into the net from well outside the penalty area....

Don't ever take up match reporting!!!!

tucked the ball into the net = looped into the net off Dickson Etuhu to beat Mark Schwarzer

[Lionel Ritchie]

where you not watching the goal he made the pass to Robinho and then ran the distance for his tap in. Does not matter how easy the finish the pass and run made by Ireland created more than 5% of the goal

What like ...? You want me to hold the back page because a professional footballer can pass and go? I acknowledged the tap in and if it'll help dry yeer eyes I'll acknowledge he passed the ball. But he's supposed to do that...

[OneRedArmy]

Coming up to 90 pages on this thread.

Surely the time has come to move it to Other Football?

[Stuttgart88]

Well said Geysir.

[stojkovic]

Coming up to 90 pages on this thread.

Surely the time has come to move it to Other Football?

Can you print it off and sent it to him and then delete it and we can all forget the little ****.

[eirebhoy]

Coming up to 90 pages on this thread.

Surely the time has come to move it to Other Football?
The only people really interested in talking about him are those that post on this forum. He's Irish and for me is representing Ireland when he plays in Germany, Denmark, etc.

[SUB of the day]

The only people really interested in talking about him are those that post on this forum. He's Irish and for me is representing Ireland when he plays in Germany, Denmark, etc.
Exactly "for you he is representing Ireland" the irony being he turns his back at the actual opportunity of doing so.

[OneRedArmy]

The only people really interested in talking about him are those that post on this forum. He's Irish and for me is representing Ireland when he plays in Germany, Denmark, etc.

The one thing he isn't doing is representing Ireland, unless by Ireland you mean himself.

The idea that a player who refuses to represent his country is somehow doing it indirectly through playing for a foreign club is, frankly, mindboggling...

[ken foree]

ironic that people calling for the thread to be moved are contributing to its length and persistence in the ireland forum! :D i thought his goal against hamburg was absolutely fantastic, incredible first-time ball and his follow-up run was so good that it made his finish all the more simple. the best goals always are!

[geysir]

Where was Mark Van Bommel when you really need him?

[dr_peepee]

It should be moved... I click on to this thread every so often cos I think it's breaking news abut representing us again, and it's the same old ******. It should be moved until he has some relavence to a campaign again... May aswell contribute to a thread on Kevin Nolan or Paul Scholes as this chump... They could have played for us but chose not to.

[Razors left peg]

It should be moved... I click on to this thread every so often cos I think it's breaking news abut representing us again, and it's the same old ******. It should be moved until he has some relavence to a campaign again... May aswell contribute to a thread on Kevin Nolan or Paul Scholes as this chump... They could have played for us but chose not to.

He is actually turning out to be a very similar player to Scholes in his prime

[amaccann]

Ok, maybe it doesn't need to be closed - censorship, you don't have to ready it etc etc - but perhaps the mods could reset the thread? It doesn't need to be 90 pages & 1800 posts long and feels excessive. We have gone over every detail, nothing new is being added so a new thread might at least give a better idea of how popular the subject really is :)

[as_i_say]

It should be moved... I click on to this thread every so often cos I think it's breaking news abut representing us again, and it's the same old ******. It should be moved until he has some relavence to a campaign again... May aswell contribute to a thread on Kevin Nolan or Paul Scholes as this chump... They could have played for us but chose not to.


Paul Scholes could have played for us? Do elaborate!

[Den Perry]

Quit acting like he owes you a damn thing. He's got his own reasons, possibly due to a bad experience with other players last time, possibly due to not wanting to leave his Man City camp. I hope to hell he plays again because the guys a prodigy but if he doesn't I'll still fondly remember him for having one of the best goals to games ratios for us of all time, we'd have finished below everyone bar San Marino last campaign if it wasn't for him, "scum of the earth" is hardly a fair judgment for a guy who has done that.


I agree Ciaran. I reckon he hates some of the players(Stephen Hunt wrote an absolutely ridiculous piece about him a while ago), but maybe doesn't want to say to much publicly in case he wants to come back...In addition he might be worried about getting booed by some of the clowns who booed Keane a few years back?Lets face it, there are a few muppets following Ireland.

Somebody stated earlier that he may do a job for us like Ray Houghton did....personally I think Ireland has far more technical ability than Houghton, and if he came back the team would eventually be built around him and Robbie Keane

[Dodge]

Just nominated for PFA young POTY in England

[Den Perry]

Not only is the ball in Stephen Ireland's court, but there are many many balls in Stephen Ireland's court, all sent there by the Irish management team. The more you go after Stephen Ireland, the more he resists, so it's best just to ignore him and let him come back if he wants to.

The issue is out of the Irish managements hands, its now in Stephen Irelands hands...but really its all time we forgot about Stephen Ireland coming back to play for us...the door is always open, he had his chance and he has turned it down...his loss not ours.

Give me an honest hard working committed Whelan, Gibson, etc any day to a player who couldn't be bothered.

what a stupid statement.
would you love a team full of committed whelans and mcshanes?

[Dodge]

would you love a team full of committed whelans and mcshanes?

Why wouldn't you?

[Scram]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmet7
Not only is the ball in Stephen Ireland's court, but there are many many balls in Stephen Ireland's court, all sent there by the Irish management team. The more you go after Stephen Ireland, the more he resists, so it's best just to ignore him and let him come back if he wants to.

The issue is out of the Irish managements hands, its now in Stephen Irelands hands...but really its all time we forgot about Stephen Ireland coming back to play for us...the door is always open, he had his chance and he has turned it down...his loss not ours.

Give me an honest hard working committed Whelan, Gibson, etc any day to a player who couldn't be bothered.


what a stupid statement.
would you love a team full of committed whelans and mcshanes?

Probably just as stupid a question...... "Would you want a team of players who couldn't be bothered" ?!

[OneRedArmy]

what a stupid statement.
would you love a team full of committed whelans and mcshanes?Every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.

International football is about representing your country, no room for mercenaries or primadonnas.

[osarusan]

International football is about representing your country, no room for mercenaries or primadonnas.

Unless they are very very good.

[Stuttgart88]

Somebody stated earlier that he may do a job for us like Ray Houghton did....personally I think Ireland has far more technical ability than Houghton, and if he came back the team would eventually be built around him and Robbie KeaneThat was probably me. What I meant was that Houghton was a natural central midfielder who played a particular role for us to great effect on RHM a lot of the time, not as a winger but as a creative & industrious player playing wide. This is where I could see Ireland playing a role for us - I think I said "with proper instruction" -, or in support of a front 2. But not as a central midfielder in Trap's 4-4-2 because we have no ball winners anywhere else on the pitch.

Ireland's individual form has been superb yet City have been a soft touch. Two Ireland goals, two 3-1 defeats in the last week alone. Not unlike away to Cyprus.

This isn't a redundant debate as such, it's really to highlight that in my opinion this story is not the be all and end all of the Irish team. If we was available where would he be picked and why, and what impact would that have on the balance of the team - that's the pertinent issue in my mind.

[Superhoops]

.....If he was available where would he be picked and why, and what impact would that have on the balance of the team - that's the pertinent issue in my mind.

He isn't available and until he is any such debate is futile.