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third policeman
07/10/2009, 9:33 AM
Doesn't tell us anything that we dont already know. Ireland is an immature, mixed up egotist who makes it up as he goes along. Whilst Trappatoni is aloof, arrogant and is seemingly devoid of diplomatic acumen. The fact that Ireland was willing to meet indicates that at some level he was interested (what he says now is predictable but unconvincing) but the meeting sounds like a disatrously inept initiative. I am making no apologies for Ireland but to lose one gifted player may be termed misfortune, to lose two (Andy Reid) is beginning to look like crass carelessness.

shaneker
07/10/2009, 9:39 AM
Read the article. Stephen faked injuries (and dead family members) to avoid travelling to Ireland games. Whatever you think about Andy Reid (and I don't believe Trap has handled it perfectly, although I agree with his judgment) this is totally different, and to put 0.00001% of the blame on anyone other than the True Blue himself absolutely screams of delusion.

irishfan86
07/10/2009, 9:43 AM
If Ireland is being truthful about the handling of the interview, it was unprofessional of Trap to leave the room multiple times during their meeting to answer his phone.

That being said, Ireland sounds like a nutcase from his quotations, and even if he did return, you'd have to doubt his willingness to stick around for an entire campaign and give his all to the cause.

I was a big advocate for bringing him back at one point, but now I don't think he should be pursued.

If he matures down the road and makes the first approach, then you never say never, but for now you'd have to close the door.

as_i_say
07/10/2009, 9:45 AM
It does raise an interesting question though. Are there any other members of the current squad that feel that way about playing for Ireland I wonder?. He's right about international football not having the allure that it once had and this is very sad.

Hopefully when the recession really hits football and the top players are forced to take massive wage cuts we might see less arseholes like him around.

irishfan86
07/10/2009, 9:52 AM
I'm not sure about players in the squad, but let's look at the players in our starting XI that seem to really love playing for Ireland:

Given: loves playing so much he hardly is willing to let any other keepers get a match in friendlies!
Kilbane: Would die for the shirt.
Dunne: Clearly dedicated to the cause and gives his all.
St. Ledger: Was always mentioning his desire to play for Ireland prior to being capped, and dismissed rumours that he would play for the North due to his early exclusions from Trap's squads.
O'Shea: He put himself through that horrible boards.ie interview, so you know he's dedicated to the cause!
Duff: Stayed around to play in the friendly against South Africa even though Trap said he could go home.
McGeady: Gets booed all over Scotland because of his decision to play for us.
Keane: Gives his all, and has scored some very important goals for us in this campaign at key moments.
Doyle: Clearly works very hard for the cause (as he does for any team he plays for).

Hard to say beyond that as I don't want to go through every player, but while our team lacks in quality in certain areas, I wouldn't say we lack commitment to the cause. I think the players are also appreciating and wanting to play for Trapattoni for the most part as well.

as_i_say
07/10/2009, 10:07 AM
I seem to remember in another interview Ireland did that he remarked about some other squad members feeling the same way, but i would agree with all of the above. Lets hope it stays like that for the future and little Stevie is only an exception.

youngirish
07/10/2009, 10:13 AM
Read the article. Stephen faked injuries (and dead family members) to avoid travelling to Ireland games. Whatever you think about Andy Reid (and I don't believe Trap has handled it perfectly, although I agree with his judgment) this is totally different, and to put 0.00001% of the blame on anyone other than the True Blue himself absolutely screams of delusion.

Exactly. He expects one of the most successful managers in world football, a true legend of the game and someone who had many of the greats of the modern era playing under him - Platini, Boniek, Batistuta, Matthaus to name just a few, should be chasing the likes of an inbred, village idiot, muck savage from Cobh to play for him who's most notable achievement in football thus far is that he was one of a half dozen players nominated for young player of the year but ultimately lost out to Ashley Young of all people. What a deluded idiot.

How would he have time to play for Ireland anyway as he was probably too busy customising 300K Bentleys into chavmobiles.

as_i_say
07/10/2009, 10:18 AM
If the missus is anything like him she'll probably want to get rid of it after a month and he'll be left stuck with it or have to undo all the chav modifications to sell it.

dr_peepee
07/10/2009, 10:24 AM
Link [URL][I]"I got called up to the full squad under Brian Kerr, then we had a massive fall-out. I stayed away for two or three years, which was a blessing in disguise.

"Then Steve Staunton called me up, and I'd just broken into the City team, so I felt I had to go. But after two or three squads I was thinking 'what am I doing here?'..

Don't remember him being called up to the full squad under Kerr??

Why does he feel the need to keep rabbiting on about it? (I'm talking to you Manblue)...

And why have a message embroidered into the upholstry of the Car? Surely better placed in a card rather than rub it in you're partners face that you are considerable richer and she's only in such a car at his Grace..

Why??

Cos he's a sap that's the why...

tetsujin1979
07/10/2009, 10:24 AM
If the missus is anything like him she'll probably want to get rid of it after a month and he'll be left stuck with it or have to undo all the chav modifications to sell it.
if his missus is anything like him, she'll claim the car she's had since she was 16 means more to her than this new car, that the few times she's driven it was a draining experience, come up with a spurious excuse to stop driving it, but mention it every now and again so he thinks she might start driving it again

tetsujin1979
07/10/2009, 10:29 AM
Don't remember him being called up to the full squad under Kerr?? it was in the U17s, just before Kerr was appointed senior manager. They were playing in Cork, and Kerr had promised Ireland a starting place, then told him on the day of the game that he would be a sub. Ireland's friends and family were in the crowd, and he lost the rag with Kerr. According to an article in the weekend's Indo it happened in the hotel they were staying in, although I had heard before it was in the dressing room. Ireland said he was going back to Manchester, and Kerr told him he would never play for Ireland while he was in charge.

Kerr did mention Stephen Ireland in a press conference before the loss against Italy, but he never called him into the senior squad.

Drumcondra 69er
07/10/2009, 10:31 AM
Don't remember him being called up to the full squad under Kerr??



He didn't, it was an underage squad and Kerr didn't play him in a game held in Cork where all his family were there. He said he'd never play for Kerr again after that and that was before Kerr got the senior job.

The article's full of mistakes anyway, '"There were times I'd finish a game with City at 8pm, then I was meant to meet up with the Ireland squad at 10pm in Dublin." So he was finishing a game in Manchester at 8, showering and getting changed and then flying to Dublin to be there for 10? Must've been flying with Superman rather then bothering with getting to the airport, checking in and getting on a plane to manage that......

Morbo
07/10/2009, 11:00 AM
I'm not sure about players in the squad, but let's look at the players in our starting XI that seem to really love playing for Ireland:

Given: loves playing so much he hardly is willing to let any other keepers get a match in friendlies!
Kilbane: Would die for the shirt.
Dunne: Clearly dedicated to the cause and gives his all.
St. Ledger: Was always mentioning his desire to play for Ireland prior to being capped, and dismissed rumours that he would play for the North due to his early exclusions from Trap's squads.
O'Shea: He put himself through that horrible boards.ie interview, so you know he's dedicated to the cause!
Duff: Stayed around to play in the friendly against South Africa even though Trap said he could go home.
McGeady: Gets booed all over Scotland because of his decision to play for us.
Keane: Gives his all, and has scored some very important goals for us in this campaign at key moments.
Doyle: Clearly works very hard for the cause (as he does for any team he plays for).

Hard to say beyond that as I don't want to go through every player, but while our team lacks in quality in certain areas, I wouldn't say we lack commitment to the cause. I think the players are also appreciating and wanting to play for Trapattoni for the most part as well.

True, I do think those players are very dedicated, the only current player who jumps to mind right now as a player who sees it as a bit of a chore is Finnan. Finnan has a lot more class than this muppet to be fair to him and I'm glad he returned but I don't think he has really enjoyed internationals in a long time and some of his withdrawals from the squad in the past have being a tad dodgey to say the least.

Jicked
07/10/2009, 11:13 AM
If Ireland is being truthful about the handling of the interview, it was unprofessional of Trap to leave the room multiple times during their meeting to answer his phone.



What reason could anyone possibly have for believing Ireland on that point? He's a liar and a fantasist. Let's not forget that Stephen denied that the meeting ever took place several times! If only Irish journalists weren't so spineless and would read him back a list of his quotations/lies.

Brenny
07/10/2009, 11:37 AM
It's like he's boasting how great he is because he's privileged enough to turn down the opportunity to play for his country. "A lot of the lads here at City didn't think I'd stand by my decision not to play for Ireland and I was like 'told you so'."
Wonder If he'd be doing the same thing If he wasn't as talented as he is.

seanfhear
07/10/2009, 11:46 AM
If Wolves play Man City, Big Mick should pick himself for a couple of minutes and "Tackle MR Chav ROBUSTLY"

That would shut mr chav up once and for all.

If a footballer was behaving like mr chav 25/30 years ago. His fellow profesionals would have sorted him out.
He would not be taking the p**s in the week before international matches like he is.

Metrostars
07/10/2009, 12:32 PM
He didn't, it was an underage squad and Kerr didn't play him in a game held in Cork where all his family were there. He said he'd never play for Kerr again after that and that was before Kerr got the senior job.

The article's full of mistakes anyway, '"There were times I'd finish a game with City at 8pm, then I was meant to meet up with the Ireland squad at 10pm in Dublin." So he was finishing a game in Manchester at 8, showering and getting changed and then flying to Dublin to be there for 10? Must've been flying with Superman rather then bothering with getting to the airport, checking in and getting on a plane to manage that......

Also, what games finish at 8pm? I don't know of any City games starting at 6pm for this to happen.

geysir
07/10/2009, 12:49 PM
What reason could anyone possibly have for believing Ireland on that point? He's a liar and a fantasist. Let's not forget that Stephen denied that the meeting ever took place several times! If only Irish journalists weren't so spineless and would read him back a list of his quotations/lies.

A footballer has the right not to be interested in representing his country. It is unusual but precedent allows that to be explained and understood as being a Cork/Cobh thing. It is the persistent lies down through the years and the chronic blame deflection, that totally strips any standard of integrity about the decision and from the person involved.

Soccer Mom
07/10/2009, 2:15 PM
A footballer has the right not to be interested in representing his country. It is unusual but precedent allows that to be explained and understood as being a Cork/Cobh thing. It is the persistent lies down through the years and the chronic blame deflection, that totally strips any standard of integrity about the decision and from the person involved.

Yeah no dead granny's and no TV License either. He can't play for us until he has either !!

Manblue
07/10/2009, 2:22 PM
Don't remember him being called up to the full squad under Kerr??

Why does he feel the need to keep rabbiting on about it? (I'm talking to you Manblue)...

And why have a message embroidered into the upholstry of the Car? Surely better placed in a card rather than rub it in you're partners face that you are considerable richer and she's only in such a car at his Grace..

Why??

Cos he's a sap that's the why...


Was that a question or just a rant?

and this isnt a new interview just for those who said he brought it up again just before game its extended version of previous clearly,

Yard of Pace
07/10/2009, 2:25 PM
True, I do think those players are very dedicated, the only current player who jumps to mind right now as a player who sees it as a bit of a chore is Finnan. Finnan has a lot more class than this muppet to be fair to him and I'm glad he returned but I don't think he has really enjoyed internationals in a long time and some of his withdrawals from the squad in the past have being a tad dodgey to say the least.

I'd put that down to being played out of position. Also, the Satuanton era must've really tested a lot of our players patience. Finnan came back when he didn't have to and that's a really good thing to see. From the list above I'd add that Whelan seems absolutely over the moon to be playing with Ireland.
I'd also point out that many managers have touted their players to be called up like Coyle with Chris McCann, Steve Bruce with Reid and McCleish with Keith Fahey. Don't think they'd bother unless those players had a strong desire to play for Ireland as I'm sure all EPL managers wouldn't mind if their players stayed at home during breaks to avoid injuries and have a rest.

Ireland makes interesting comments but I really don't think many players feel like he does.

Manblue
07/10/2009, 2:37 PM
]Did anyone watching skysports news over the last couple of night notice the alarming amount of players who have been “injured” over the weekend and have to withdraw from their international games this weekend,, mostly from teams that are playing friendlies, qualified or have no chance of qualifying

Not that its excusable but does give weight to what he is saying bout lack of committement.

Yard of Pace
07/10/2009, 7:23 PM
]Did anyone watching skysports news over the last couple of night notice the alarming amount of players who have been “injured” over the weekend and have to withdraw from their international games this weekend,, mostly from teams that are playing friendlies, qualified or have no chance of qualifying

Not that its excusable but does give weight to what he is saying bout lack of committement.

Interesting (and pretty sad) article by Paul Doyle on the once mighty Belgians over on the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/oct/07/belgium-world-cup-qualifying).



"But the mentality of some of the players is deplorable ... we got fed up with the many intolerable things that made it impossible for us to do our jobs ... they are pseudo-stars ... with the sick attitude of childish snobs."


I'd hate to see the Irish team ever reduced to something like this. It's probably a good thing SI isn't involved anymore. I'd hate for his attitude to rub off on any of our young players.

(I appreciate his committment to training etc. but the size of his ego is alarming by the sounds of things)

greendeiseboy
08/10/2009, 9:16 PM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/102605/Wag-is-a-dozy-parker/

When I first saw this I was chuffed............then I read her reaction...didnt even faze her........the likes of these need a serious reality check. A few weeks in a Brat camp wouldn't go astray.

theworm2345
09/10/2009, 12:15 AM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/102605/Wag-is-a-dozy-parker/

When I first saw this I was chuffed............then I read her reaction...didnt even faze her........the likes of these need a serious reality check. A few weeks in a Brat camp wouldn't go astray.
Women shouldn't drive, simple as that...I don't know why but they just can not do it well

Crosby87
09/10/2009, 12:30 AM
Women shouldn't drive, simple as that...I don't know why but they just can not do it well

But honestly not as bad as some people in chicago. I was there last month. Same as here, am i right? seriously, some stereotypes are true. :D
The rising sun aint no fun behind the wheel.

irishfan86
09/10/2009, 12:46 AM
Women shouldn't drive, simple as that...I don't know why but they just can not do it well

While we're at it, why don't we remove their voting rights.

Back to the kitchen!

seanfhear
09/10/2009, 6:41 AM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/102605/Wag-is-a-dozy-parker/

When I first saw this I was chuffed............then I read her reaction...didnt even faze her........the likes of these need a serious reality check. A few weeks in a Brat camp wouldn't go astray.
You can't blame the girl for being pre-occupied.

If you had to massage old nobheads ego then parking a chav wagon would be the least of your worries.

Junior
09/10/2009, 12:21 PM
a match made in heaven and no mistake.

Deckydee
10/10/2009, 3:08 PM
Interesting (and pretty sad) article by Paul Doyle on the once mighty Belgians over on the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/oct/07/belgium-world-cup-qualifying).

I'd hate to see the Irish team ever reduced to something like this. It's probably a good thing SI isn't involved anymore. I'd hate for his attitude to rub off on any of our young players.

(I appreciate his committment to training etc. but the size of his ego is alarming by the sounds of things)

The problem with Belgium is that they have Belgians playing for them. 'Pour la Belge is er non' - What more can I say?

"I'd hate to see the Irish team ever reduced to something like this" - Never NEVER Never in a million years. The Irish are as proud as punch

the-blue-harp
10/10/2009, 3:18 PM
RED Alloys??

what the hell is wrong with this guy?:eek:

Razors left peg
10/10/2009, 3:21 PM
RED Alloys??

what the hell is wrong with this guy?:eek:

hes a closet United supporter

the-blue-harp
10/10/2009, 3:22 PM
here its like a spaceship....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1218054/Touch-class-Footballer-buys-Wag-girlfriend-264-000-pimped-Bentley.html

the-blue-harp
10/10/2009, 3:26 PM
and heres his audi r8, he has ruined a thing of beauty...

http://www.gtspirit.com/2009/04/18/overkill-stephen-irelands-audi-r8/

ofjames
10/10/2009, 4:05 PM
he's such a $hithead.

PS I think that's an appropriate note to conclude this thread!!

Razors left peg
10/10/2009, 4:38 PM
and heres his audi r8, he has ruined a thing of beauty...

http://www.gtspirit.com/2009/04/18/overkill-stephen-irelands-audi-r8/

Must admit I kinda like the Audi:D

the-blue-harp
10/10/2009, 6:06 PM
Must admit I kinda like the Audi:D

he has it looking like something out of a comic book, ya cant buy taste.:rolleyes:

theworm2345
10/10/2009, 6:40 PM
While we're at it, why don't we remove their voting rights.

Back to the kitchen!
Capital idea!

But honestly not as bad as some people in chicago. I was there last month. Same as here, am i right? seriously, some stereotypes are true. :D
The rising sun aint no fun behind the wheel.
I've been to NYC only once a long time ago and I don't remember the drivers but yeah we got some bad ones here.

OwlsFan
03/11/2009, 10:44 AM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1103/irelands.html

Wonder was it an excuse to get off early or should he talk to his grannies about their own near death experiences?

seanfhear
03/11/2009, 1:05 PM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1103/irelands.html

Wonder was it an excuse to get off early or should he talk to his grannies about their own near death experiences?He is dead to me already !

as_i_say
12/11/2009, 8:54 AM
Stevie Manchester has no regrets....I wonder does Given ever talk to him. I can't imagine him having much respect for him

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2009/1112/1224258678945.html

Jicked
12/11/2009, 9:21 AM
Yet again stephen goes running to the press the week of an international to try and grab some attention for himself and to try undermine the team's preparation. What a horrible little man. Any chance anyone wants to prepare a 'enjoy your summer off stephen' flag to be hung up at the stade after the game if we qualify next wed?

irishfan86
12/11/2009, 9:34 AM
Yet again stephen goes running to the press the week of an international to try and grab some attention for himself and to try undermine the team's preparation. What a horrible little man. Any chance anyone wants to prepare a 'enjoy your summer off stephen' flag to be hung up at the stade after the game if we qualify next wed?

A waste of money, it's not about him.

In fairness to Stephen though, I'd say it's more a case of the journalists seeking him out at the international break rather than the other way around.

tetsujin1979
12/11/2009, 9:37 AM
Yet again stephen goes running to the press the week of an international to try and grab some attention for himself and to try undermine the team's preparation. What a horrible little man. Any chance anyone wants to prepare a 'enjoy your summer off stephen' flag to be hung up at the stade after the game if we qualify next wed?
It was a press call for City in Abu Dhabi, they're over there for a friendly against the national side. What else were they going to ask one of the few internationals actually there?

Manblue
12/11/2009, 9:58 AM
Yet again stephen goes running to the press the week of an international to try and grab some attention for himself and to try undermine the team's preparation. What a horrible little man. Any chance anyone wants to prepare a 'enjoy your summer off stephen' flag to be hung up at the stade after the game if we qualify next wed?


Your a bit simple are ya? Its a press conference, they obviously asked the questions.

Try this one.....

Ireland is a hypocrit, Hes going on about spending time with his young family when actually hes banished to adu dhabi (how ever many hundred miles away) when he could be an hour flight away??

That would of been a good point

as_i_say
12/11/2009, 10:03 AM
Your=your post sucks.
You're=you are a hypocrite.

That would have been a good point

Simple.

Manblue
12/11/2009, 10:20 AM
Your=your post sucks.
You're=you are a hypocrite.

That would have been a good point

Simple.

Maybe you should have kept a sharper eye on your equity situation and not on my english. ;)

as_i_say
12/11/2009, 10:24 AM
Touché.

magnumpi
12/11/2009, 10:30 AM
this article is ********.

stephen ireland is too thick to use the word "adverse" in the right context.

Jicked
12/11/2009, 10:30 AM
A waste of money, it's not about him.

In fairness to Stephen though, I'd say it's more a case of the journalists seeking him out at the international break rather than the other way around.

Stephen can quite easily say that he no longer wants to talk about a certain topic, or issue a no comment. Players do that all the time about things they don't want to talk about, Stephen just loves the attention.