Champions League/Europa League draws 2010

[marinobohs]

Isn't it great? I think it is fantastic, tremendous and fabulous...such great weather, the birds are singing, the sun shining, Bohs are crying, kick back and watch no matter what the score. No massive implications in defeat, no fear of defeat, just football and maybe just maybe if the planets arrange and the moon turns a shade of azure, just maybe.

:cool2:

doesn't matter if Shams lose as long as Bohs do - SRFC, surely the minnows of Irish football ;)

best of luck to Dundalk (along with three Hail Marys), Sporting Fingal (hoping to get along, hope I dont put "kiss of death " on them) and........ shams :p in tonights fixtures

[marinobohs]

How much is the level of debt now? To the nearest million?

glad to provide you with a distraction to Dundalks current run (stagger ?) :rolleyes:

[pateen]

Can anyone post TV links to tonights game here or in the other thread.
Would love to see any
P

[SPXcyan]

http://liveonsat.com/LJsport_foot_uefa_europa_cup.php

Dundalk and Rovers games listed with a link so they look good to watch.. Fingals game won't be broadcasted :(

[Rasputin]

Ohh the irony, Shams fans attempting to ridicule Bohs on how to Balance your books.
Lets just make this clear, if we all played on a level playing field financially wise then Shams would not exist and should not exist, so Shams gloating over finances is just absurd.
But lets not take that away from an absolutely disgracefull performance in Wales, at least with the temperment of Bohs fans and Nutsy you know heads will inevitably role over this.
As an aside is there any players that are being singled out for this National Embarresment?
Also upon seeing the result not only did it inevtably wind in the necks of Bohs fans but all LOI fans including myself who were expecting them to steamroll through TNS.

[Charlie Darwin]

I wouldn't call it ironic. More bitter experience.

[elroy]

Well done Rovers, super stuff, just what was needed after Bohs debacle the other night. Juve in the Aviva anyone???

[paudie]

i think they're planning to have it in Tallaght

[dfx-]

maybe just maybe if the planets arrange and the moon turns a shade of azure, just maybe.

:cool2:

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1507272.html

[placid casual]

In Napoli where love is king
When boy meets girl here's what they say

When the moon hits you eye like a big pizza pie
That's amore
When the world seems to shine like you've had too much wine
That's amore
Bells will ring ting-a-ling-a-ling, ting-a-ling-a-ling
And you'll sing "Vita bella"
Hearts will play tippy-tippy-tay, tippy-tippy-tay
Like a gay tarantella

When the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool
That's amore
When you dance down the street with a cloud at your feet
You're in love
When you walk down in a dream but you know you're not
Dreaming signore
Scuzza me, but you see, back in old Napoli
That's amore

:D

[The Lep]

Well done Rovers. All the best against Juventus.

[Colbert Report]

Why can't this be held at Aviva Stadium? It would sell out for sure. Juventus playing in some tin pot stadium doesn't make sense.

[seand]

we all played on a level playing field financially wise then Shams would not exist and should not exist,


Examinership is available to us all. Bohs may get there sooner than most.

[ped_ped]

Why can't this be held at Aviva Stadium? It would sell out for sure. Juventus playing in some tin pot stadium doesn't make sense.

Because it's not their home ground? And their home ground is of a reputable standard?

[The Lep]

What will the capacity be set at? Will they be able to do Tallaght up like the Real Madrid game? Im sure the demand for tickets will be as great as the Madrid game.

[Jicked]

I would guess demand would be greater than the Madrid game. We'll be capped though, we have 6 nights until kick-off, so simply not enough time to clear it with FAI/UEFA/a building contractor etc to sort it all out to have capacity like what it was for the Madrid game. I'm sure capacity will be increased to some degree, an exciting few days are in store!

[bullit]

What will the capacity be set at? Will they be able to do Tallaght up like the Real Madrid game? Im sure the demand for tickets will be as great as the Madrid game.
no UEFA regulations

[Dunny]

Why can't this be held at Aviva Stadium? It would sell out for sure. Juventus playing in some tin pot stadium doesn't make sense.

Here this will take you back to your rightfull place: http://foot.ie/forums/24-Ireland

[Dunny]

What will the capacity be set at? Will they be able to do Tallaght up like the Real Madrid game? Im sure the demand for tickets will be as great as the Madrid game.

No. Temp stands arent allowed.

[Jicked]

No. Temp stands arent allowed.

Does that include the temp stands Dundalk used tonight?

I'd expect temp stands behind each goal in Tallaght next week for Juve, though capacity will still be restricted due to logistics/time constraints.

[Ezeikial]

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Why can't this be held at Aviva Stadium? It would sell out for sure. Juventus playing in some tin pot stadium doesn't make sense.

There are several reasons:

1) Tallaght Stadium is already declared as the venue to UEFA
2) Shamrock Rovers fans are the first prioirity and most would feel passionate about having it in Tallaght
3) The big money is in the TV rights, and the TV will pay the same money irrespective of venue
4) There is only one week to promote the game - Aviva would not automatically be a big deal financially given the probable high costs involved.
5) Shamrock Rovers can create an enormous demand relative to supply and therefore create a big "desirability factor" from within the communities they wish to target as long term supporters

[Ezeikial]

Does that include the temp stands Dundalk used tonight?

I'd expect temp stands behind each goal in Tallaght next week for Juve, though capacity will still be restricted due to logistics/time constraints.


Dundalk did not have any temporary stands.

UEFA regulations specifically prohibit temporary stands - it's hard to imagine how any new structure could get UEFA approval in the time available

[Bry Boy]

Why would they have it in the aviva??
yes there is money but

1: rovers will not be at all used to the pitch and teh huge crowd
2: bigger teams will be more used to big hostile crowds and going to a samller grownd will have a cycological advantage.

i am a bray fan and would love to wish rovers the best of look in the next round .
whoe knows ??

[Dunny]

Does that include the temp stands Dundalk used tonight?

I'd expect temp stands behind each goal in Tallaght next week for Juve, though capacity will still be restricted due to logistics/time constraints.

What temp stands??? All our seats are bolted to the ground.

[Jicked]

What temp stands??? All our seats are bolted to the ground.

As opposed to the Rovers seats which would be bolted where?

srfc twitter page already suggests we'll be playing in tallaght with additional stands.

(EDIT, sorry, meant without additional stands!)

[Dunny]

As opposed to the Rovers seats which would be bolted where?

srfc twitter page already suggests we'll be playing in tallaght with additional stands.

Our seats were bolted into the concrete in the shed, Town end terrace and carrick road terrace which have steps/levels. How can Rovers do this without a supporting infrastructure on either end of the Tallaght Stadium?


Also,Listen to this guy he knows his stuff.



Dundalk did not have any temporary stands.

UEFA regulations specifically prohibit temporary stands - it's hard to imagine how any new structure could get UEFA approval in the time available

Im not having a go or anything but this is what we understood.

[Jicked]

Are you sure you're not confusing regulations for international games with European competition games?



ShamrockRovers
Don't think so @Reillinho: For the @ShamrockRovers v Juve game next week, will UEFA allow Rovers to have the temp seats behind the goals!

I'd have thought the official Rovers twitter page has a better idea than most about this, but I guess we'll see in the next few days

[Ezeikial]

Are you sure you're not confusing regulations for international games with European competition games?



I'd have thought the official Rovers twitter page has a better idea than most about this, but I guess we'll see in the next few days

This is from the UEFA Stadium Infrastructure Regulations 2010 (if you search on this forum you will find a link previously posted to uefa.com). The extract here relates to all stadium categories:



Section 2: Spectator-related areas
Article 15 - Stands and spectator facilities
1) Seats for spectators must be individual, fixed (e.g. to the floor), separated fromone another, shaped, numbered, made of an unbreakable and non-flammable
material, and have a backrest of a minimum height of 30cm when measured from the seat.
2) The use of temporary stands is prohibited.
3) The stadium must be equipped with refreshment and catering facilities for allspectators in every sector of the stadium.

[Jicked]

Fair enough, but whats the difference between temporary and removable? I guess we'll be going with 6,500 so, which is a pity but at least looks after all our own fans.

BTW, this is a fantastic conversation to be having a couple of years after going to Cobh, Athlone and Ballyboffey.
Just shows that comments from the likes of Fenlon (and others) about Irish teams not being able to compete anymore is way off. Fingal put it up to a Portuguese team, Rovers fully deserved to beat an Israeli team over two legs, the better team in each game. With all due respect to Dundalk and Bohs, both Fingal and Rovers went in to those games in good health, on and off the pitch, gave everything they had over 180 minutes and didn't need excuses made afterwards. We're not as bad a league as we might think.

The only downside of all this is that the Rovers-Bohs game in Tallaght at the start of August will now have to be postponed, a pity considering how well we're doing and how all over the place Bohs seem. Not the worst problem to have going to bed tonight though of course.

[PartySaint]

The only downside of all this is that the Rovers-Bohs game in Tallaght at the start of August will now have to be postponed, a pity considering how well we're doing and how all over the place Bohs seem. Not the worst problem to have going to bed tonight though of course.

Surely just moved to the Sunday???

[mypost]

Why can't this be held at Aviva Stadium? It would sell out for sure. Juventus playing in some tin pot stadium doesn't make sense.

It can't be at Lansdowne, as it erm, isn't open yet. Regardless if it was, our stadium is built for these games, and was created with it in mind. We went through a lot to play in our stadium, and we're not going to surrender home advantage for Italians.

Stands = check.
Floodlights = check.
Press area = check.
Catering facilities = check

Tallaght is not Tolka Park, and we're not Shelbourne. Nevertheless, the Barcodes will play in a tinpot stadium in the tie. It's known as Modena in 2 weeks time.

[gspain]

Well done to Rovers. Fantastic win. Thought some might like the quote from a Bnei fan I found on the internet to swop a programme from Tallaght for one from last night.
He sent me an email after the game

"Congratulations! Shamrock Rovers have excellent team, great fans and fairly clear victory."

I was at Fingal last night and they did well but were beaten by a better side. Great roar when they announced the result from Tel Aviv. Thankfully Rovers went through. It would have been a horrible day/weekend in th epress with all 4 teams out and the usual suspects having a go. Now it is all about Juventus. I just hope I can get a ticket for next Thursday.

[Rasputin]

Why can't this be held at Aviva Stadium? It would sell out for sure. Juventus playing in some tin pot stadium doesn't make sense.
Away to your barstool and let the real football fans talk.

[stovelid]

Why can't this be held at Aviva Stadium? It would sell out for sure. Juventus playing in some tin pot stadium doesn't make sense.

To stop day-trippers like you getting tickets.

[Hibs4Ever]

It can't be at Lansdowne, as it erm, isn't open yet. Regardless if it was, our stadium is built for these games, and was created with it in mind. We went through a lot to play in our stadium, and we're not going to surrender home advantage for Italians.




Always makes me chuckle ;)

[Real ale Madrid]

Hard luck to Sporting Fingal last night. Little bit of a pity they could not get through - had a very winnable tie against Bangor City of Wales in the next round.

You would expect Irish teams to progress against Welsh opposition......

[sullanefc]

To stop day-trippers like you getting tickets.

Well Rovers will just have to wait until May to play a Europa League game in the Aviva. They're dead right to keep it in Tallaght and look after their own fans. Day trippers going to the Aviva prob wouldn't even be able to find Tallaght stadium after.

It reminds me of the time that City were playing Red Star Belgrade. If they had won that game then AC Milan were in the next round. I remember a guy I know, big into football, goes to all Ireland games, but never darkened the door of Turners Cross, and he asked me could I get him a ticket should they progress. Sickening to think that there is people like that who take tickets of the real fans.

[rerun]

The only downside of all this is that the Rovers-Bohs game in Tallaght at the start of August will now have to be postponed, a pity considering how well we're doing and how all over the place Bohs seem. Not the worst problem to have going to bed tonight though of course.

You're bring The Old Lady to Tallaght for god sake, surely you can get over not having to play the Gypsies for a while! :)

Seriously thought, well done and hopefully Rovers can do something in Tallaght to make Juve jittery at home, maybe get their supporters on their backs in the second leg. The ball is round and all that...

[Candystripe]

I just suggested the Aviva as an aption.

When we were drawn to play PSG a few years ago most wanted the game played elsewhere and our club decided to to everythinng to keep it at the Brandywell.

Great memories from both the home and away games for all that made it and the scramble for tickets is still talked about on our forum.

Hopefully Rvrs can get round the red tape and have the extra stands put in for this game.

Brilliant result Rovers and enjoy both games.

Edit: When I say most,I meant barstoolers :p not Derry fans.

[Duggie]

would the RDS be an option? the more money rovers can make from a bigger crowd i say good luck to them.

[Dublin Red]

Dead right to keep it in Tallaght. Those are the nights to remember. And Shams are starting to add some fond memories to their new home (YES I SAID NEW HOME) - Its theirs no matter what anyone says.

Delighted. Brilliant for the league!

Sligo Rovers Fan in Australia.

[OwlsFan]

Well Rovers will just have to wait until May to play a Europa League game in the Aviva. They're dead right to keep it in Tallaght and look after their own fans. Day trippers going to the Aviva prob wouldn't even be able to find Tallaght stadium after.

It reminds me of the time that City were playing Red Star Belgrade. If they had won that game then AC Milan were in the next round. I remember a guy I know, big into football, goes to all Ireland games, but never darkened the door of Turners Cross, and he asked me could I get him a ticket should they progress. Sickening to think that there is people like that who take tickets of the real fans.

Amusing really. LoI supporters bemoan the fact that the League doesn't get pitched or presented to a wider audience but when there is a chance they say "Get lost, this is ours and we don't want to share it with others (i.e. "bar stoolers"). A bit like Gollum and the ring. "Precious, this is mine"
http://images.killermovies.com/l/lotrthetwotowers/young_smeagol.jpg

I am not sure by the way Juve would be such a huge attraction. The old lady of Italian football is somewhat tired and weather beaten.

By my reckoning the Rovers result over the two legs was probably the best result of a LoI team in Europe that I can remember. To go away and win was phenominal.

[Duggie]

i wouldnt worry about barstoolers, my view looking at it is our clubs need all the money they can get and from a business viewpoint if they can make more money moving it then thats more than acceptable. obvisouly it would be great for it to be held in tallaght for the shams fans.

[D.24saint]

Rovers should keep the game in Tallaght something I have seen with Pats is that bigger clubs hate small venues ie Elfsborg,Sovetov for us, and you can have temp stands the stand behind the goal in richmond was used for for Krylia Sovetov game which was the same round in europe as this rovers game.

[A N Mouse]

Amusing really. LoI supporters bemoan the fact that the League doesn't get pitched or presented to a wider audience but when there is a chance they say "Get lost, this is ours and we don't want to share it with others (i.e. "bar stoolers"). A bit like Gollum and the ring. "Precious, this is mine"


Calls for it to be played, at short notice, in the 'aviva' are one thing. Calls from people who had no interest - when the first leg was played, when the draw was made, when the result was heard and right up until the opponents in the next round were mentioned - are another thing.

Oh, and there won't be any europa league matches at the 'aviva'. Ask uefa where the final is being played.


I am not sure by the way Juve would be such a huge attraction. The old lady of Italian football is somewhat tired and weather beaten.

It's enough to attract posters who don't normally darken this corner of foot.ie


By my reckoning the Rovers result over the two legs was probably the best result of a LoI team in Europe that I can remember. To go away and win was phenominal.

You have a short memory.

And before I forget, well done to rovers.

[sullanefc]

Amusing really. LoI supporters bemoan the fact that the League doesn't get pitched or presented to a wider audience but when there is a chance they say "Get lost, this is ours and we don't want to share it with others (i.e. "bar stoolers"). A bit like Gollum and the ring. "Precious, this is mine"

A barstooler showing up for one glamour game every 6/7 years is hardly going to help the league.


By my reckoning the Rovers result over the two legs was probably the best result of a LoI team in Europe that I can remember. To go away and win was phenominal.
You must not be following LOI teams in Europe that long. Its not the first time that a LOI side has won away from home.

[Dodge]

Rovers should keep the game in Tallaght something I have seen with Pats is that bigger clubs hate small venues ie Elfsborg,Sovetov for us, and you can have temp stands the stand behind the goal in richmond was used for for Krylia Sovetov game which was the same round in europe as this rovers game.

That stand isn't temporary (officially)

Its hard not to sound begrudging when you correct people that last night wasn't the best result ever, isn't it? I don't think it was but then I'm biased in that I think Pats getting by Russian opposition is far better. I think Derry beating Gothenburg home & away is the best set of results too. Shels getting by the Croatian champions is another obvious high

None of these detract by a fantastic result by Rovers last night and of course, their reward couldn't be higher.

[Rasputin]

Amusing really. LoI supporters bemoan the fact that the League doesn't get pitched or presented to a wider audience but when there is a chance they say "Get lost, this is ours and we don't want to share it with others (i.e. "bar stoolers"). A bit like Gollum and the ring. "Precious, this is mine"
No.
LOI bemoan the fact that Irish "soccer" fans dont support their domestic league and choose to support Corporations in England.
So to think that we should indeed get down on one knee and be ohh so worthy to accept the curreny of the barstooler who has done nothing for Irish football and merely wants to bandwagon on a great night to be a LOI fan and more specifically a Shams fan is really quite astounding, but understandable from a barstooler perspective.
Its quite similar to the likes of real Football fans in England who have to deal with inflated ticket prices and increased demand for high profile games when day trippers from Ireland pay their bi-annual visit to support "their" (no sniggering down the back) team.

I am not sure by the way Juve would be such a huge attraction. The old lady of Italian football is somewhat tired and weather beaten.
Ya well I disagree with you there.
We shall see who will be proven right on the night.

By my reckoning the Rovers result over the two legs was probably the best result of a LoI team in Europe that I can remember. To go away and win was phenominal.
Ridiculous.
It was a great result but the likes of the Derry result against Gothenburg or when they hammered Gretna, or Pats against Sovetov, the results by Cork where they bet Malmo and NEC Nijmegen, Shels beating Hajduk etc I would all rank above beating Bnei Yehuda.
That is not to diminish the result for Shams though, great result.

[sullanefc]

Another thing, the match against Juve is not going to convince the barstoolers to come to more LOI games. If Rovers get a result we will just here "ah Italian football is gone to sh*t", if Juve hammer Rovers, it'll be "what do you expect, LOI is sh*t".

[Dodge]

In fairness I'm not sure thats the case witha club as big as Juve. While some may think that, there's no doubting a win against a club like that would help Rovers in their PR battle in a huge, huge way. How it helps the rest of the league is debateable