Champions League/Europa League draws 2010

[PartySaint]

Is that Quigley in goal?

Brendan Clarke, He is poo

Dont worry folks we will be back in Europe next season to save the league

[Dalymountrower]

Brendan Clarke, He is poo

Dont worry folks we will be back in Europe next season to save the league


Thats reassuring Dodge, are you planning to win the FAI Cup again?

[Dodge]

Thats reassuring Dodge, are you planning to win the FAI Cup again?

Not every pats fan is called Dodge...

[gspain]

Thought rovers played well but got badly caught on the break when in control. Bnei looked a much better side after the goal.

Had Rovers scored first when on top....

The tie is still alive. Bnei must be favourites now but Rovers still have a decent chance.

Great result by Fingal but the goal was a sickener.

[Straightstory]

Hard luck, Fingal. I may go along next week and support them.
Glad Rovers got a late goal.
Anyone who watches LOI football and doesn't want Irish clubs to do well in Europe is an idiot. It's not like supporting Everton if you're a Liverpool fan. The League is in dire straits. Anything that gives it any kind of a boost is a very good thing indeed.
I loathe Bohs when they're playing my club, Drogheda (a legacy of late goals and ill fortune has afflicted the Drogs for years when up against the Gypsies), but I went to support them on Tuesday and was delighted they won. I'll be disappointed if they don't go through to the next round.

[WindmillWarrior]

The League is in dire straits. Anything that gives it any kind of a boost is a very good thing indeed.
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So what kind of boost does it give the league? The success of recent seasons in Europe doesn't seem to have made a blind bit of difference to me. I'm delighted Dundalk got hammered and couldn't really care less how the others get on, cause they'll never get too far anyway.

[seand]

The groupings for the third qualifying round are on UEFA.com now.

Shamorck Rovers have a 1 in 5 chance of drawing Juventus if they can get past Bnei Yehuda!

Less glamorous for Fingal, but genuine chances to progress.

Dundalk will play .... Monaghan United in the League Cup.

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1504191.html

[pineapple stu]

however we only need a draw to move up one again and a win will put us back where we were before tonight.
That's assuming Finland lose both their games away to sides from Andorra and Wales. We need a draw more than Finland manage to move ahead of them; very different proposition. And probably not going to happen, unfortunately. Both Finnish sides were seeded (because of previous results I think) and the difference in the draws was marked.


Not every pats fan is called Dodge...
One of ye needs to change that avatar. I'm always nearly making that mistake.

Edit - thanks for that seand. Though it looks like a 4 in 5 chance of a not particularly glamorous tie at all for Rovers (CSKA Sofia, Timisoara, Karpaty Lviv (3-0 up) or Elfsborg (most winnable)). Climville in the same group if they can hold out in Croatia. Imagine Climville v Juve! :eek: I seem to recall as well IL fans on here a while back saying that getting past one round in Europe simply wasn't worth the effort too. Portadown look like they're going out, but they could get Olympiakos, Besiktas or Sturm Graz among others; not the worst of groups.

Fingal in the same group as Liverpool if they get through. Pity both would be seeded. That kind of blew up in their faces. :p

Edit edit - Christ, that red ball in the Fingal game is annoying.

[seand]

So what kind of boost does it give the league? The success of recent seasons in Europe doesn't seem to have made a blind bit of difference to me. I'm delighted Dundalk got hammered and couldn't really care less how the others get on, cause they'll never get too far anyway.

The minor successes of others saw Drogs seeded and able to draw Libertas, for example.

[Duggie]

what happened to rovers wearing there new jersey for the europa league???

[Real ale Madrid]

Bohs are in the same pot / can draw:

Anderlecht
FC Copenhagen
Rosenbourg / linfield
Salzburg / Torshavn
FK Partizan / Pyunik

Whould like them to draw Anderlecht as thats only down the road from me but maybe the Partizan game would be winnable ?

[Duggie]

Bohs are in the same pot / can draw:

Anderlecht
FC Copenhagen
Rosenbourg / linfield
Salzburg / Torshavn
FK Partizan / Pyunik

Whould like them to draw Anderlecht as thats only down the road from me but maybe the Partizan game would be winnable ?

no i think anderlecht would be far to strong over the 2 legs. for me i think rosenberg would offer the best bet to win. there not the power they were a few years ago.

[abcd]

Tough looking potential draw for Bohs. They don't want Anderlecht of Copenhagen I'd imagine. Rosenborg?

The potential draw looks very positive for Fingal. Its a tough ask next week and any more defensive errors like last night and they're out.

I'd say Shamrock Rovers are hoping its either Juventus (glamour) or Elfsborg ( less travel and opportunity to progress. Any of the other ties would be costly travel wise and probably not winnable.

[Real ale Madrid]

Bohemians / TNS Drew Anderlecht - home first

[abcd]

Anderlecht it is.Very tough for Bohs. They will likely be looking at the Europa League to extend their European run provided they get through next Tuesday.

[holidaysong]

Disaster of a draw for Bohs. Away second too makes it all the more difficult. Not a bad draw at all for Linfield if they can overcome Rosenborg.

[Partizan]

Honest, it couldnt happen to a nice shower. The Jeff McNamara saga and the last time we were up there we had to be escorted out of the kip. Call it karma buddy

[Partizan]

Bohs are in the same pot / can draw:

Anderlecht
FC Copenhagen
Rosenbourg / linfield
Salzburg / Torshavn
FK Partizan / Pyunik

Whould like them to draw Anderlecht as thats only down the road from me but maybe the Partizan game would be winnable ?

Partizan would destroy Bohs. They have some fine handy players. Be nice to get Partizan since I havent seen them in a couple of years and I have my Grobari scarf and hat in the press.

[seand]

Honest, it couldnt happen to a nice shower. The Jeff McNamara saga and the last time we were up there we had to be escorted out of the kip. Call it karma buddy

Jeff McNamara? It's only been 13 years. Are you still miffed about the playoff with Cork United in 41?

[Rasputin]

Disaster of a result for Dundalk, I can hear the barstoolers laughing it up as I type.
But putting the result in context they did just lose to shams last week 4-0.
Hopefully they get something out of the game in Oriel.
Not a bad result for Shams tonight and should be well in with a shout for getting something.
As for Sporting Franchise I couldnt give a ****e.

[Real ale Madrid]

Sporting Fingal / Maritimo v Honka / Bangor City

[abcd]

Fingal/Maritimo v Bangor/Honka. Just adds to the opportunity of next Thursday nights.

[Buller]

Juventus HOME!!!

[abcd]

Rovers/Bnei v Juve.

[Real ale Madrid]

Shamrock Rovers / Bnei Yehuda v JUVENTUS!!!!

Just got a flashback to the last time an Irish team was drawn out of the hat in Europe agasint a Italian team. It was Cork City / Red Star Belgrade v AC Milan, the next day there was some incident involving George O'Callaghan and a gate.

[holidaysong]

Fantastic draw for very different reasons for both clubs. Really hope they can finish off the job next Thursday.

[pineapple stu]

Excellent draw.

Assuming Rovers get through (which is probably slightly odds against at the moment), where would that game be played? Keep it in Tallaght and expand to the size of the Real game?

When did the LoI last play Italian opposition?

[Cymro]

btw great result for welsh side bangor city today, they got a 1-1 draw away to fc honka of finland.

I agree, that was a terrific result. Bangor aren't even in the top 3/4 Welsh Premier sides - they finished 5th last season and 6th the year before. Thought it was going to be simply a case of how many and would be doing well to keep it down to 1 or 2. But credit to Bangor.

They would face the winners of the Maritimo/Sporting Fingal tie if they manage to beat Honka (or avoid conceding) next week. I'd still have Honka as favourites, but Bangor have a fighting chance now.

[sligoman]

Juventus a great draw for Bnei, should pack out the Bloomfield Stadium.

[passinginterest]

Fabulous draw for both teams, lets hope they can get through now. Bnei were very average last night and are definitely beatable.

[Real ale Madrid]

Will be a lot of pressure on Bnei now - they will be expected to finish the job and secure the big draw. Hopefully that can play into Rovers' hands.

[pineapple stu]

Any word on Levski Sofia's draw?

[A N Mouse]

Of course if rovers do go through the national broadcasters won't be falling over themselves in a bidding war for the rights

[Real ale Madrid]

Dundalk are a bribeable ref / 7 lucky bouces away from a glamour tie against.......Kalmar / Dacia Chisinau

[sligoman]

Levski/Dundalk Vs. Kalmar/Dacia.

[Jicked]

Juventus a great draw for Bnei, should pack out the Bloomfield Stadium.

Fantastic, just popping in and I was wondering how a Sligo fan would manage to make themselves look a bitter, obsessed child in a European thread. Keep up the good work.

Just seeing Rovers being pulled out of the hat followed by Juventus was an incredible rush. Imagine if we actually get to play them. Dreams are made of that.

[abcd]

I think we've seen in Europe so many times before, teams come to Ireland in the first leg get a decent result without looking overly impressive and then really turning it on at home to bury the tie. I think Rovers really needed an advantage last night but on the flip side at least they know they have to score. The main thing is they keep it alive for as long as possible, the pressure is really on Bnei at home as mentioned above. They did only beat the Armenian side 1-0 at home after a 0-0 draw in Armenia and the Armenians went close on a couple of occasions late on so there is some hope for Rovers. The heat is another major factor so if Rovers get the ball they need to hold onto it or they'll be chasing shadows all night.

[poster]

Can you imagine Juve coming to Tallaght?? A team thats been involved in match fixing down the years and bribing refeeres and a negative style of play might get to the play the Italian giants!

Yes Jim, yes he did.

[Tony Soprano]

Aviva only opens on 31 July (rugby provinces match)

first leg Rovers v Juve would be 29 July - wonder if any chance of holding it in Aviva ?

[total hoofball]

Aviva only opens on 31 July (rugby provinces match)

first leg Rovers v Juve would be 29 July - wonder if any chance of holding it in Aviva ?

zero chance

The IRFU want the first match in the stadium to be a rugby match.

[Jicked]

I think we've seen in Europe so many times before, teams come to Ireland in the first leg get a decent result without looking overly impressive and then really turning it on at home to bury the tie. I think Rovers really needed an advantage last night but on the flip side at least they know they have to score. The main thing is they keep it alive for as long as possible, the pressure is really on Bnei at home as mentioned above. They did only beat the Armenian side 1-0 at home after a 0-0 draw in Armenia and the Armenians went close on a couple of occasions late on so there is some hope for Rovers. The heat is another major factor so if Rovers get the ball they need to hold onto it or they'll be chasing shadows all night.

Of course the Israelis are going to be big favourites, and it'd pretty much need a huge upset for us to progress. We had a few half chances, but not Irish teams always do and never seem to put them away (Pats v. Berlin at the RDS last time) not because of bad luck, but because we're just not as good technically as the teams who can finish those easy chances. Still, its a game of football. There's nothing to stop us getting a dodgy penalty in the 1st minute and cling on for dear life. Apparently the ref is going to be French, they owe us something. We go in hope not expectation, and after what happened to Dundalk last night I'm happy enough to be going with at least hope.

[Jicked]

Aviva only opens on 31 July (rugby provinces match)

first leg Rovers v Juve would be 29 July - wonder if any chance of holding it in Aviva ?

We'd put temp seating behind each goal (I'd guess 4,000 behind each) and also temp seating in front of both permanent stands to bring up capacity.

[Tony Soprano]

We'd put temp seating behind each goal (I'd guess 4,000 behind each) and also temp seating in front of both permanent stands to bring up capacity.

time to put in permanent seats I reckon, capacity is being tested too often - are there any plans to do this ?

4,000 seems a lot to me behind each goal - Real Madrid game only have 11,000 which is about 2,500 behind each but still close enough to RDS capacity to justify not moving game

U2 concert in Juve stadium on Fri 6 Aug so wonder if Juve might agree to switch with Rovers home in second leg (could use Aviva then)

[Duggie]

if fingal could come through somehow you'd fancy the against honka/bangor.

[Dodge]

time to put in permanent seats I reckon, capacity is being tested too often - are there any plans to do this ?


It hasn't been near full once this season (and before any rovers get all hissied up agian, thats not a knock as their crowds are by far the best)

[Duggie]

i wouldnt worry about permanent seating till after the 2nd leg in israel anyway. one step at a time, but you could see shams scoring out there. fingers crossed.

[Tony Soprano]

It hasn't been near full once this season (and before any rovers get all hissied up agian, thats not a knock as their crowds are by far the best)

fair point, big games seem to be getting around 5,000 not filling the 5,700 capacity

could have some sell outs before the end of the season (home v Bohs, possible cup semi final, possible Juve game)

suppose its a trade off - every so often they will lose money (would have gotten 10,000 + for Bohs game last season)

[CuanaD]

So, best case scenario (for the league as a whole):
Bohs beat TNS & get a reasonably glamour tie with Anderlecht, followed by at least one other game in the Europa (I don't think any of us would bet on them beating Anderlecht at the moment)
Shams win in Israel & get a fantastic glamour tie against Juve (again no one would bet on a win there ... )
Fingal win at home & win through again against the Fins/Welsh - giving us 2 teams one game away from the Europa group stages
Dundalk get something to add to the coeff.
All adds up to lots of addition to the coeff for future seasons & a LOT of cash-flow & prestige, TV & Media coverage etc

Worst case: none of the above - none of our teams are in the driving seat (1:0 at home is OK but not comfortable) & I'm just worried that they will all fall at this hurdle - not expecting, or pessimistic, just worried.

[Duggie]

realistically only bohs could be our only hope next week. id expect them to come through.

[Tony Soprano]

So, best case scenario (for the league as a whole):
Bohs beat TNS & get a reasonably glamour tie with Anderlecht, followed by at least one other game in the Europa (I don't think any of us would bet on them beating Anderlecht at the moment)
Shams win in Israel & get a fantastic glamour tie against Juve (again no one would bet on a win there ... )
Fingal win at home & win through again against the Fins/Welsh - giving us 2 teams one game away from the Europa group stages
Dundalk get something to add to the coeff.
All adds up to lots of addition to the coeff for future seasons & a LOT of cash-flow & prestige, TV & Media coverage etc

Worst case: none of the above - none of our teams are in the driving seat (1:0 at home is OK but not comfortable) & I'm just worried that they will all fall at this hurdle - not expecting, or pessimistic, just worried.

4th round of Europa League is potentailly very lucrative

Bohs / Fingal would be unseeded - they would play one of the 37 seeded teams

look who those seeded teams are likely to be - Liverpool, Porto, CSKA Moscow, PSV Eindhoven, Juventus, Sporting Lisbon, Olympiacos, Stuttgart, Galatasaray, Dortmund, Napoli, Leverkusen, Paris SG, Celtic, Mallorca, Palermo, Besiktas, Man City, Feyenoord, AEK Athens, Aston Villa

there's about a 50/50 chance of getting one of them - any of those ties would be a big money spinner and imagine Liverpool, Man City, Aston Villa or Juventus (with Aviva available)