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pixiehead
29/08/2007, 9:48 PM
Any one Heard of this Cup!!! Just spotted it on our web site :confused:
http://www.galwayunitedfc.ie/fixtures-and-results/connaught-senior-cup.html

Cannon Balls
30/08/2007, 7:17 AM
Any one Heard of this Cup!!! Just spotted it on our web site :confused:
http://www.galwayunitedfc.ie/fixtures-and-results/connaught-senior-cup.html

Westport and Ballina are joint top of the Mayo super league, How come none have been invited to play in this tournament?

Closing Time
30/08/2007, 11:28 AM
Westport and Ballina are joint top of the Mayo super league, How come none have been invited to play in this tournament?
Lat years champions (Celtic) & 2nd place (Erris Utd). So next year you might have your turn if you finish in the top two. Looks like a good competition and it would be great if this was the front runner for a CSL.

Closing Time
30/08/2007, 11:34 AM
well in my opinion, the super league is a bit of joke, u got the 3 teams at the top miles ahead of the rest of pack,all 3 teams have got young squads and looks like the 3 of them will battle it out for the coming seasons!!! then u got erris,manulla,b/heane battleing for the next 3 place's and after that the rest and very poor, if u look at the boro in 7th place a goal difference of -39(57 goals against) and probably will not get relegated, its a very poor reflection on super leageue in general !!!!

The only answer is a Connacht Junior League run by the Connacht FA with demotion up and down to the local leagues. Four from Mayo, six from Galway, 2 from both Ros & S/L leagues plus the 2 Senior Eircom League clubs. Two divisions of eight.

Cannon Balls
30/08/2007, 12:51 PM
Lat years champions (Celtic) & 2nd place (Erris Utd). So next year you might have your turn if you finish in the top two. Looks like a good competition and it would be great if this was the front runner for a CSL.

My Bad!;)

irishyop
30/08/2007, 12:54 PM
Any idea of when it will be played?

Closing Time
30/08/2007, 2:26 PM
Any idea of when it will be played?

No dates given.

Celtic away to Ballinasloe Town

mandarin frogs
30/08/2007, 4:47 PM
Lat years champions (Celtic) & 2nd place (Erris Utd). So next year you might have your turn if you finish in the top two. Looks like a good competition and it would be great if this was the front runner for a CSL.

Isnt this the same cup competition that used to exist in the CSL days? All CSL teams and the 4 junior league champions used to compete for a connaught senior cup title? CT-can you confirm?

mandarin frogs
30/08/2007, 4:53 PM
The only answer is a Connacht Junior League run by the Connacht FA with demotion up and down to the local leagues. Four from Mayo, six from Galway, 2 from both Ros & S/L leagues plus the 2 Senior Eircom League clubs. Two divisions of eight.

Is there really an interest in this after the collapse of the CSL a number of years ago? The relegation would be a great idea, as this was the reason for a lot of meaningless games in the past. a lot of clubs woulnt have the resources/interest to travel every 2nd week:ball:

Fair Play
30/08/2007, 8:15 PM
The only answer is a Connacht Junior League run by the Connacht FA with demotion up and down to the local leagues. Four from Mayo, six from Galway, 2 from both Ros & S/L leagues plus the 2 Senior Eircom League clubs. Two divisions of eight.
I think your suggestion is good. Whether it is called a Connacht Senior or Junior League needs to be debated properly given the implications for movement of players within the region and their status during a playing season. The season (Winter or Summer) should also be given consideration.
I feel that certain standards must apply such as structure of the club, quality of players and team, certain defined standards in terms of facilities, and ability to be able to move on to a higher level of football for the club when the new FAI Leagues are set up in the years ahead.
What is absolutely vital is a proper fixtures programme set out clearly at the beginning of the season on defined dates, and not allow the clubs to dictate as happened for the entire duration of the previous Senior League. The idea of 2 eight teams divisions will be part of the key to its success, but is there sufficient clubs within the region who want to take part? I think discussions took place in recent times but there was very little interest. Hopefully it will get off the ground, and give our better younger players another outlet to develop their game to a higher level.

renovater
30/08/2007, 10:01 PM
Isnt this the same cup competition that used to exist in the CSL days? All CSL teams and the 4 junior league champions used to compete for a connaught senior cup title? CT-can you confirm?
was it not called the byrne cup or the western cup

renovater
30/08/2007, 10:09 PM
I think your suggestion is good. Whether it is called a Connacht Senior or Junior League needs to be debated properly given the implications for movement of players within the region and their status during a playing season. The season (Winter or Summer) should also be given consideration.
I feel that certain standards must apply such as structure of the club, quality of players and team, certain defined standards in terms of facilities, and ability to be able to move on to a higher level of football for the club when the new FAI Leagues are set up in the years ahead.
What is absolutely vital is a proper fixtures programme set out clearly at the beginning of the season on defined dates, and not allow the clubs to dictate as happened for the entire duration of the previous Senior League. The idea of 2 eight teams divisions will be part of the key to its success, but is there sufficient clubs within the region who want to take part? I think discussions took place in recent times but there was very little interest. Hopefully it will get off the ground, and give our better younger players another outlet to develop their game to a higher level.

Glad to see this debate has surfaced again, Conn Junior League rather than senior, so we won't have debacle regards players status, be sure of one thing €100 transfer will return in da Mayo League.
Let's hope that Connaught can put some thing together in promoting junior football which they represent

the grape vine
31/08/2007, 9:34 AM
The only answer is a Connacht Junior League run by the Connacht FA with demotion up and down to the local leagues. Four from Mayo, six from Galway, 2 from both Ros & S/L leagues plus the 2 Senior Eircom League clubs. Two divisions of eight.

i think it would be a great idea to start the CSL up again,and the idea to 2 groups would great it very interesting !! i think it would also benefit the mayo super leageue, allow the all the "B" to play in it, and it would be a very good leageue, and about 6-7 teams would have a realistic chance of winning it !!

Closing Time
31/08/2007, 9:51 AM
Isnt this the same cup competition that used to exist in the CSL days? All CSL teams and the 4 junior league champions used to compete for a connaught senior cup title? CT-can you confirm?
Correct and as far as I am aware no Mayo team won this Cup.

Closing Time
31/08/2007, 9:54 AM
was it not called the byrne cup or the western cup
The O'Byrne Cup was played between the four league champions and the Western Cup is the U-18 Connacht inter league cup. I could be wrong.

juan pablo
31/08/2007, 11:07 AM
I think its a great idea!

Athenryboy
31/08/2007, 11:27 AM
The O'Byrne Cup was played between the four league champions and the Western Cup is the U-18 Connacht inter league cup. I could be wrong.

The Michael O byrne Cup was the Cup for the cup comp for league champions in connacht. It is now used as the Galway FA Cup. I wonder will this be taken back as the CSL cup.

Overall I think the CSL would be a good thing once clubs could fund travelling expenses etc.. (which was the downfall the last time)but as far as im aware the interest this year in revieving the league was not there. I know a number of clubs that applied but there doesnt seem to be any news on matters since.

renovater
31/08/2007, 9:50 PM
The O'Byrne Cup was played between the four league champions and the Western Cup is the U-18 Connacht inter league cup. I could be wrong.
ur right

renovater
31/08/2007, 9:57 PM
The last time it failed it was not help my the mayo clubs who op-out to play what appeared to be attractive is now know as the Super League.
This was set up by The Mayo League to attract back its clubs.
How ever there are number of clubs who may have a rethink, if it was to return to the surface.

mandarin frogs
01/09/2007, 9:41 AM
The last time it failed it was not help my the mayo clubs who op-out to play what appeared to be attractive is now know as the Super League.
This was set up by The Mayo League to attract back its clubs.
How ever there are number of clubs who may have a rethink, if it was to return to the surface.

Dont think clubs were attracted back to mayo by a super league, the CSL was on the brink of collapse anyway- only 5/6 clubs left as far as i can recall? maybe CT can fill us in?:ball:

gunner1
01/09/2007, 11:36 AM
Glad to see this debate has surfaced again, Conn Junior League rather than senior, so we won't have debacle regards players status, be sure of one thing €100 transfer will return in da Mayo League.
Let's hope that Connaught can put some thing together in promoting junior football which they represent
mayo teams have travelled all over con for games, and the most common whine is the state of pitches,changing rooms(if any) I think a conn league is a great idea , but evary team will have to meet certain standarts!!!
:ball:

Cloggs
01/09/2007, 12:38 PM
does anyone know whether the draw been made for the first round of the fai junior cup for the mayo region yet?is it due to start in two weeks time (sept 16th)or am i wrong?

Thunderblaster
02/09/2007, 12:34 PM
Isnt this the same cup competition that used to exist in the CSL days? All CSL teams and the 4 junior league champions used to compete for a connaught senior cup title? CT-can you confirm?

Correct.

juan pablo
02/09/2007, 5:05 PM
The super league is wide open now as ballina town lost to ballyheane 2-0, nice to see crossmolina record a win to make things interesting at the bottom of the table, celtic hammered claremorris 5-1, erris also won today.

renovater
02/09/2007, 7:10 PM
mayo teams have travelled all over con for games, and the most common whine is the state of pitches,changing rooms(if any) I think a conn league is a great idea , but evary team will have to meet certain standarts!!!
:ball:
It would be true to say that I have to agree with you, but grounds and conditions is up to each league. any changes would need it support from with in its own clubs
However the Connaught League could set higher standards, but in doing so it could end up with a league without its best teams.
Not EVERY League have the same conditions as ie. own there own grounds, or may not be in the position to get the land required.That is why some grounds are poorer than others,each league is charged with promoting football.
Its upto the foundations of football to make sure they are supporting Junior Clubs.
It is this area of the game has been let down,however the F.A.I. are moving in the right direction, but this is going to take along time for monies to pass down to junior clubs,as they sit at the bottom of the ladder.
So at the end of the day its down to each and every club to take on the responabillity of its own affairs.

renovater
02/09/2007, 7:15 PM
does anyone know whether the draw been made for the first round of the fai junior cup for the mayo region yet?is it due to start in two weeks time (sept 16th)or am i wrong?
that week is youth weekend in the cup,so its highly unlikely to have junior cup on that week end its than likely would be the week after.

renovater
02/09/2007, 7:22 PM
Correct.
Last year winners are entered in a connaught club final with two League of Ireland team which include Galway and Sligo, there is total of ten teams which is based on knock out 4 teams in round 1 with 2 going out to have an 8 followed by 4 so on.

renovater
02/09/2007, 7:30 PM
The super league is wide open now as ballina town lost to ballyheane 2-0, nice to see crossmolina record a win to make things interesting at the bottom of the table, celtic hammered claremorris 5-1, erris also won today.
ITS a funny old game, sometimes I wonder how some results are churned out,last week Ballyheane get roasted by Manulla. You would have thought you could put your house on Ballina..Not even Tom Kelly or Mossy could figure this one out. All I can do is link up with the two in Rocky's and see could we get a handle on it.
But what ever we conclude Well done to the Heane Army for causeing the upset.
And I can only say Westport must be happy and a winners medal will go to Ballintubber, by the man we all love!!!

Footy Mad
02/09/2007, 9:15 PM
hat week is youth weekend in the cup,so its highly unlikely to have junior cup on that week end its than likely would be the week after.

Think it will be the 15th/16th September when the 1st Round takes place. The Munster area kicks of that weekend so I'm assuming the Connacht area will be the same weekend.

gazza2
03/09/2007, 8:37 AM
Mayo Area 1st Round - 15th/16th September
1. Ballyvary vs Crossmolina
2. Partry vs Ballyglass
3. Westport Utd vs Straide + Foxford...Date to be confirmed


Mayo Area 2nd Round - 13th/14th October
4. Ballina Utd vs Ballyheane
5. Snugboro vs Charlestown
6. Swinford vs Mulranney
7. 2 vs Moy Villa
8. Inver Utd vs Castlebar Celtic
9. Claremorris vs Glenisland Utd
10. Kiltimagh/Knock vs Fahy Rovers
11. Valley Rovers vs 1
12. Achill Rovers vs Kilalla
13. Conn Rangers vs Ballina Town
14. Glenhest Rovers vs Kilmore
15. Erris Utd vs Ballinrobe Town
16. Manulla vs Hollister
17. Clew Bay vs Urlaur Utd
18. Bangor Hibs vs Cross Celtic
19. Castlebar Town vs 3

3rd Round - Due to take place on 4th November

4th Round - Due to take place on 25th November

galwayhoop
03/09/2007, 11:12 AM
anyone have the Galway section?

Cloggs
03/09/2007, 1:51 PM
Mayo Area 1st Round - 15th/16th September
1. Ballyvary vs Crossmolina
2. Partry vs Ballyglass
3. Westport Utd vs Straide + Foxford...Date to be confirmed


Mayo Area 2nd Round - 13th/14th October
4. Ballina Utd vs Ballyheane
5. Snugboro vs Charlestown
6. Swinford vs Mulranney
7. 2 vs Moy Villa
8. Inver Utd vs Castlebar Celtic
9. Claremorris vs Glenisland Utd
10. Kiltimagh/Knock vs Fahy Rovers
11. Valley Rovers vs 1
12. Achill Rovers vs Kilalla
13. Conn Rangers vs Ballina Town
14. Glenhest Rovers vs Kilmore
15. Erris Utd vs Ballinrobe Town
16. Manulla vs Hollister
17. Clew Bay vs Urlaur Utd
18. Bangor Hibs vs Cross Celtic
19. Castlebar Town vs 3

3rd Round - Due to take place on 4th November

4th Round - Due to take place on 25th November

fair play to ya for clearing that up for me gazza.cheers

sinabhuil
03/09/2007, 4:20 PM
How good are Bangor Hibs. What is their pitch like. I know it is a long way from Cross. Is there a longer trip possible in this cup?

Cloggs
03/09/2007, 6:54 PM
How good are Bangor Hibs. What is their pitch like. I know it is a long way from Cross. Is there a longer trip possible in this cup?

i'll let you know on monday-we play them on sunday at 12.mad early start but could be worse i suppose.it could've been 11.30!:D long way to go from fahy all the same

Footy Mad
03/09/2007, 7:55 PM
How good are Bangor Hibs. What is their pitch like. I know it is a long way from Cross. Is there a longer trip possible in this cup?

They're pretty good allright, very difficult to beat at home (still unbeaten there this season), pitch is quite narrow but quite good all the same. They play a good passing game and in Mikey Sweeney they have one of the best young strikers in the division.

renovater
03/09/2007, 11:30 PM
How good are Bangor Hibs. What is their pitch like. I know it is a long way from Cross. Is there a longer trip possible in this cup?
Need to get a map, long way. take a short cut by boat

the grape vine
05/09/2007, 2:13 PM
just looking at this weeks fixture's,its goin to be a very tough day on sunday for celtic, all team's A-B-C all playing at the same time,even for a big club like celtic it will be hard to feild 3 strong teams at the same time!! and the u-21's playing on monday night..

irishyop
05/09/2007, 2:38 PM
And 6 lads away on a stag, we asked for a deferral to either Sat or Sunday morning but we were told no games were to be changed, then we heard that the Fahy V Bangor match is changed. Not too happy. Going to be v hard to put teams together.

Cloggs
05/09/2007, 4:46 PM
And 6 lads away on a stag, we asked for a deferral to either Sat or Sunday morning but we were told no games were to be changed, then we heard that the Fahy V Bangor match is changed. Not too happy. Going to be v hard to put teams together.

why was the fahy and bangor match changed to you know?or does anybody know?mad early start-jaysus a man will hardly be able to have a pint for a few nights before the game!;)

irishyop
05/09/2007, 5:22 PM
why was the fahy and bangor match changed to you know?or does anybody know?mad early start-jaysus a man will hardly be able to have a pint for a few nights before the game!;)

U cud leave tomorrow to make sure!! 45 minutes will get ya down there or make it an hour for **** stops ;)

Not sure why to be honest, we requested weeks back to get 1 of the 3 games changed but the person would not change saying that no changes were to be made.

Ron Bergundy
07/09/2007, 1:12 PM
1. Ballyvary vs Crossmolina- cross
2. Partry vs Ballyglass-partry
3. Westport Utd vs Straide + Foxford- w-port


Mayo Area 2nd Round - 13th/14th October
4. Ballina Utd vs Ballyheane-ballyheane
5. Snugboro vs Charlestown-snugboro
6. Swinford vs Mulranney-swinford
7. 2 vs Moy Villa-moy
8. Inver Utd vs Castlebar Celtic-celtic
9. Claremorris vs Glenisland Utd-c'morris
10. Kiltimagh/Knock vs Fahy Rovers-fahy
11. Valley Rovers vs 1-cross
12. Achill Rovers vs Kilalla-killala
13. Conn Rangers vs Ballina Town ballina
14. Glenhest Rovers vs Kilmore-ghest
15. Erris Utd vs Ballinrobe Town-erris
16. Manulla vs Hollister-manulla
17. Clew Bay vs Urlaur Utd-urlaur
18. Bangor Hibs vs Cross Celtic-b hibs
19. Castlebar Town vs 3-wport

3rd Round - Due to take place on 4th November

4th Round - Due to take place on 25th November

Fairly straight forward predictions!!!

renovater
11/09/2007, 11:13 PM
anyone have the Galway section?
Art Friel would have the answer

galwayhoop
12/09/2007, 8:54 AM
Art Friel would have the answer

got it here (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=70113)
thanks anyway

sinabhuil
12/09/2007, 9:16 AM
1. Ballyvary vs Crossmolina- cross
2. Partry vs Ballyglass-partry
3. Westport Utd vs Straide + Foxford- w-port


Mayo Area 2nd Round - 13th/14th October
4. Ballina Utd vs Ballyheane-bheane
5. Snugboro vs Charlestown-snugboro
6. Swinford vs Mulranney-swinford
7. 2 vs Moy Villa-Partry
8. Inver Utd vs Castlebar Celtic-celtic
9. Claremorris vs Glenisland Utd-c'morris
10. Kiltimagh/Knock vs Fahy Rovers-fahy
11. Valley Rovers vs 1- cross
12. Achill Rovers vs Killala-killala
13. Conn Rangers vs Ballina Town ballina
14. Glenhest Rovers vs Kilmore-ghest
15. Erris Utd vs Ballinrobe Town-Brobes
16. Manulla vs Hollister-Manulla
17. Clew Bay vs Urlaur Utd-urlaur
18. Bangor Hibs vs Cross Celtic-b hibs
19. Castlebar Town vs 3 -wport

3rd Round - Due to take place on 4th November

4th Round - Due to take place on 25th November

Fairly straight forward predictions!!!

Some differences

Closed Account
12/09/2007, 9:47 AM
Full Cup Draws (http://www.sportsmanager.ie/t6.php?contentpage=1&id=149&countyid=63&club_id=&sportid=8)

Ron Bergundy
17/09/2007, 2:59 PM
Ballina have blown it with sundays draw to celtic and westport will go on to win the league again,having said that it was gone when they were defeated by ballyheane some weeks back!anyone think the leagues need a reshuffle or a change in structure???teams in the premier being promoted are gonna go back down and the top 3 in the super are miles away in class then any other team in the divisions,look at snugboro have conceded around 65 goals and still prob won't be relegated!!!

irishyop
17/09/2007, 4:07 PM
Hard to know what to do really Ron, fact of football, it happens in all league throughout the country and world. You cannot place restrictions on successful clubs. The PL in England is the same, same top 4 year for the last near 10 years. What can they do?

renovater
18/09/2007, 2:18 PM
Ballina have blown it with sundays draw to celtic and westport will go on to win the league again,having said that it was gone when they were defeated by ballyheane some weeks back!anyone think the leagues need a reshuffle or a change in structure???teams in the premier being promoted are gonna go back down and the top 3 in the super are miles away in class then any other team in the divisions,look at snugboro have conceded around 65 goals and still prob won't be relegated!!!
I wrote on this a number Weeks ago. if Ballyheane hadn't beet en Ballina then we would be talking that teams in the safe zone have nothing to play for.
well there is always pride. we can't control winners and losers or were a team finishes. its the game that decides if you are good enough.you will always have a top 4 and a bottom 3.
Snugboro only stayed up because Manulla didn't beat them last year, its this that need to be qestioned.

Thunderblaster
18/09/2007, 10:29 PM
Snugboro only stayed up because Manulla didn't beat them last year, its this that need to be qestioned.

Is Mulder and Scully going to carry out an investigation? Check out The X Files!!:eek::D

swift
19/09/2007, 12:10 AM
Hard to know what to do really Ron, fact of football, it happens in all league throughout the country and world. You cannot place restrictions on successful clubs. The PL in England is the same, same top 4 year for the last near 10 years. What can they do?

As I said before the so called Super League is just a name. All it is, is just a training session for the "Big Teams" to get ready for the Connaught Cup and the FAI Cup. It must be nigh on impossible for some clubs to sign players especially the promoted clubs because they are always fighting relegation the following year. It think that questions have to be asked about the motives of some clubs in relation to the league. If they are not in contention for honours they don't put much effort into it and can be on the receiving end of some funny results which can reflect the table at both ends. But when the Connaught Cup comes around its all hell for leather for it. We all know who I'm on about and they are involved in controversy but they have been doing this for years. The Super League( in my opinion) wont be around in the next ten years with the continued mooting of the Connaught Senior League unless things and attitudes change. This thing of "throwing "games undermines all the effort people put in and makes a mockery of the "Super League":mad: