Mayo Association Football League

[Bestie]

It is a great improvement all round this season. The Connaught is covering a lot of games in several divisions and I saw a fair amount of coverage in the Western also. MWR have also improved but I cannot see them doing a live commentary on cup finals in Milebush. Willie the Shoe was great for that. I hope they all keep it up during the summer months. By the way, what has happened with the coverage on the matches on the Mayo website in recent weeks.
Yes the Connaught had 3 full pages of soccer this week covering all different sections of the game, and MWR has improved considerably. I hope they all keep it up. It is great to have the fixtures and results so fast on the website as well.

[Norm]

Lads,

Does anyone know where I can find out what day on the June bank holiday weekend we are playing. Nothing on the Mayo league website except for stating hat fixtures will take place the 5th/6th June.

[Spot Kick]

Lads,

Does anyone know where I can find out what day on the June bank holiday weekend we are playing. Nothing on the Mayo league website except for stating hat fixtures will take place the 5th/6th June.
Get your secretary to contact the fixtures secretary in the league. I thought I saw a note on the website in the last week or so that all the cup games in the Connacht Gold Cup were due to be played on the 5th/6th June. The league programme for that date had been brought forward.

[mystical]

in relation to the layout of the league divisions and relegation/promotion scenarios, are the mayo league not boud by fai rules or regulations in the structure of their league? to me the financial outgoings for clubs to participate in junior football warrant a fair and equitable system for all teams, and should allow situations where teams can hold on to players rather than creating an environment where players just go to the greener lush pastures of other teams if in a higher divison. it may be safe to envisage that many clubs will not be able to survive year to year if this escalates. in all fairness the mayo league is a pretty good set up, in need of a few tweaks here but does not deserve a situation where so much uncertainty seems to exist now.

[Round Tower]

but does not deserve a situation where so much uncertainty seems to exist now.

Yes but this uncertanty has been created by the Mayo league with this dafed idea, making divisions next season 8 teams for no great reason.

[rava]

i in all fairness the mayo league is a pretty good set up, in need of a few tweaks here but does not deserve a situation where so much uncertainty seems to exist now.

In the words of John McEnroe " you can not be serious", how anyone can have sympathy for the league on this one is beyond me. Despite this being a much talked about topic for about six weeks we still have a situation where the league have not instructed the clubs about relegation/promotion for THIS season. I can hardly blame them as if they make the announcement that all divisions are being reduced to 8 teams at this late stage then there will be a backlash from the clubs especially in the lower divisions, where their seasons are effectively over.

[Spot Kick]

in relation to the layout of the league divisions and relegation/promotion scenarios, are the mayo league not boud by fai rules or regulations in the structure of their league? to me the financial outgoings for clubs to participate in junior football warrant a fair and equitable system for all teams, and should allow situations where teams can hold on to players rather than creating an environment where players just go to the greener lush pastures of other teams if in a higher divison. it may be safe to envisage that many clubs will not be able to survive year to year if this escalates. in all fairness the mayo league is a pretty good set up, in need of a few tweaks here but does not deserve a situation where so much uncertainty seems to exist now.
It appears as if the Mayo League can decide on the format of the league and cup competitions each seson according to the Rules that are on the website. There used to be a rule about poaching players but that was always difficult to prove as players themselves always had the final say. I agree with you that we all should know what the proposals are, but our own club delegates cannot even say for sure what the situation is despite the fact that they appear to have been told.

[rava]

I heard last night that the FAI have recieved two enquiries from mayo with regard to setting up rival leagues, one from north mayo and not sure about the other. Both said they would be able to provide 10 teams to compete in league.

[rava]

you that we all should know what the proposals are, but our own club delegates cannot even say for sure what the situation is despite the fact that they appear to have been told.

Maybe all club delegates have collective amnesia, surely that can be the only rational explanation.

[rava]

P. Burns fairly put the boot into the league in the Connaught this week, fair dues to him its about time some of these issues were discussed openly.

[Round Tower]

P. Burns fairly put the boot into the league in the Connaught this week, fair dues to him its about time some of these issues were discussed openly.

Did not see or hear what P. Burns wrote in the Connaught, is that P that used manage Westport, basicaly what he had to say on the issue dont want the whole article but the bare basics or a sumary of the article.

[achillrover]

you could go buy the paper

[The Don]

P. Burns fairly put the boot into the league in the Connaught this week, fair dues to him its about time some of these issues were discussed openly.

I have to agree with what he wrote, at least he called it as most of us football fans see our game going in the county.

[The Don]

I heard last night that the FAI have recieved two enquiries from mayo with regard to setting up rival leagues, one from north mayo and not sure about the other. Both said they would be able to provide 10 teams to compete in league.

Cant see it happening or being benefical to football in the county, we just need to attend more to footballing matters and stop trying to fix things that are not broken.I have to say the mood in general with clubs players and managers is very low and this cloud hanging over everyone concerning relegation is a complete and utter mess (again).

[Round Tower]

you could go buy the paper

Live in North Mayo where the Western is the local paper and i dont think buying the Connaught for 1 article is worth it and i was not asking you.

[pixiehead]

you could go buy the paper

Live in North Mayo where the Western is the local paper and i dont think buying the Connaught for 1 article is worth it and i was not asking you.

The league forced westport to narrow their pitch which they deemed to near the running track( A common situation in some of the worlds biggest sporting stadia) They made them narrow the pitch and thus hampering the game and creating lots of throws. Burns wrote that the situation was basically crazy and that most clubs were fed up with the fines and antics the league are employing just to main stage their ambitions to a national audience . He said that the clubs should meet separately to discuss their disgruntlement and then approach the league with their own presentations. It was a great article and common sense but it will take one club to invite all others to a meeting by getting the ball rolling. Or maybe we could do it on here :cool2:

[rava]

THe said that the clubs should meet separately to discuss their disgruntlement and then approach the league with their own presentations. It was a great article and common sense but it will take one club to invite all others to a meeting by getting the ball rolling. Or maybe we could do it on here :cool2:

Can you imagine the amount of crap that would come down on the club who are seen to organise a meeting.

[achillrover]

and i was not asking you.

o.... i see :(

[pixiehead]

o.... i see :(

Ah dont worry Achill we still Love you :kiss:

[pixiehead]

Can you imagine the amount of crap that would come down on the club who are seen to organise a meeting.

Well I have just received a PM from a very progressive Club who would be interested in a, shall we say' informal discussion' . I would welcome all other PMs with strictest confidence. Just to refer to your point Rava i understand but number one its a free country and number two while Im pretty sure most clubs have the utmost respect for the governing body we are all adults and a move like that would be considered playground stuff and highly unprofessional. Many of the LOI clubs have met over certain issues before some clubs present and some not, but the FAI didnt smack their bums for them and tell them off. In fact its a healthy thing and improves club relations . Anyhow as I said anyone can PM me on the matter and Ill leave it at that .

[rava]

Well I have just received a PM from a very progressive Club who would be interested in a, shall we say' informal discussion' . I would welcome all other PMs with strictest confidence. Just to refer to your point Rava i understand but number one its a free country and number two while Im pretty sure most clubs have the utmost respect for the governing body we are all adults and a move like that would be considered playground stuff and highly unprofessional. Many of the LOI clubs have met over certain issues before some clubs present and some not, but the FAI didnt smack their bums for them and tell them off. In fact its a healthy thing and improves club relations . Anyhow as I said anyone can PM me on the matter and Ill leave it at that .

Well its good to see clubs are finally interested in having a say in their game. I am sure other clubs will follow suit and I hope something constructive comes out of it all. I agree totally with the idea of free speech and openly encourage it. Lets hope the league is able to take this on the chin and not spit the dummy out as the previous chairman would most certainly have done.

[The Don]

Well its good to see clubs are finally interested in having a say in their game. I am sure other clubs will follow suit and I hope something constructive comes out of it all. I agree totally with the idea of free speech and openly encourage it. Lets hope the league is able to take this on the chin and not spit the dummy out as the previous chairman would most certainly have done.

Both sides would have to be conciliatory for any any good to come out of it. Now that the opportunity is there lets see how many clubs are interested.

[galactico]

you can discuss all you like with the mchales and durkins and the rest of the mfl hierarchy ... but as everybody knows its allways going to be there way or no way , they wont change anything about this 8 team set up , there 2 stuborn and cant take any constructive comments..or criticism....how do you think they will react when they get wind of clubs organising meetings to discuss there meddling and supposed new look 8 team leagues????????
..its a good idea that clubs should be able to discuss away from camp milebush ...

[Thunderblaster]

P. Burns fairly put the boot into the league in the Connaught this week, fair dues to him its about time some of these issues were discussed openly.

I posted Rule 17 on the Westport United thread.

[mystical]

my last post was meant to state that clubs do not deserve to be in this stitaution of uncertainty. i am not at the stage to be sypmathetic for the league committee but i do think in general what they aim to do for mayo soccer overall is good when done slowly and openly. on the other hand tactical implementation of 'rules' , crippling fines, division chaos, all this at this stage of a season is etremely bad form. clubs should meet together and then approach the league with all matters and proposals and if all fails strike action could be an idea, and one which would overwhelmingly be a vote of no confidence in the league

[pixiehead]

my last post was meant to state that clubs do not deserve to be in this stitaution of uncertainty. i am not at the stage to be sypmathetic for the league committee but i do think in general what they aim to do for mayo soccer overall is good when done slowly and openly. on the other hand tactical implementation of 'rules' , crippling fines, division chaos, all this at this stage of a season is etremely bad form. clubs should meet together and then approach the league with all matters and proposals and if all fails strike action could be an idea, and one which would overwhelmingly be a vote of no confidence in the league

Join us then Mystical!! :hypnotized:

[rava]

Lots of rumours all weekend about the clubs preparing to meet, does anybody know who is organising this or how can clubs get involved. On a side note I hear some of the fines handed out to clubs this month were priceless even by mayo league standards one club was fined for no hot water for the ref!.

[thekop]

Lots of rumours all weekend about the clubs preparing to meet, does anybody know who is organising this or how can clubs get involved. On a side note I hear some of the fines handed out to clubs this month were priceless even by mayo league standards one club was fined for no hot water for the ref!.


The fines etc.. are all gettin a but out of hand, it'll be interestin to see will clubs/players remember all this come the MFL dinner dance & Oscar Traynor Team this year???

[pixiehead]

Not true. Ive recieved only one PM from a club and that club is to talk to a influential name in the game but apart from that nothing... As always people are all talk and the madness will continue unchallanged. People too afraid of their own shadow IMO. The league need not worry just yet !! :rolleyes:

[Bestie]

Not true. Ive recieved only one PM from a club and that club is to talk to a influential name in the game but apart from that nothing... As always people are all talk and the madness will continue unchallanged. People too afraid of their own shadow IMO. The league need not worry just yet !! :rolleyes:
I agree with you pixiehead. Most people in the clubs are happy with the way things are run. The people that criticize here are really only a small minority. The silent majority get on about their own affairs, and concentrate on running their clubs and looking after their teams. It is also very wrong to criticize individuals by name on a forum like this, as some people do. Would they like it themselves?
Like many others I do not agree with some of the so called madness that comes from the ML, but in general we have nothing of a serious nature to be complaining about in the Mayo league. Despite what some people are saying, it is us the clubs that has the power to change things if we want to. Having meetings outside the league is ridiculous. I suppose that we will have the usual dissenter to what I have said but if you really look at all the posts it is the same few that constantly criticize.

[short_frank]

Looking for directions to the new Fahy pitch if I am travelling from Westport. We are playing U14 there on Wednesday and I have no numbers for Fahy officials. Any help is much appreciated.

[pixiehead]

Looking for directions to the new Fahy pitch if I am travelling from Westport. We are playing U14 there on Wednesday and I have no numbers for Fahy officials. Any help is much appreciated.

Im sure they dont have a new pitch, they play in moneen in castlebar just go out by roadstone. But im opening to correction on a different pitch for underage

[The Don]

I agree with you pixiehead. Most people in the clubs are happy with the way things are run. The people that criticize here are really only a small minority. The silent majority get on about their own affairs, and concentrate on running their clubs and looking after their teams. It is also very wrong to criticize individuals by name on a forum like this, as some people do. Would they like it themselves?
Like many others I do not agree with some of the so called madness that comes from the ML, but in general we have nothing of a serious nature to be complaining about in the Mayo league. Despite what some people are saying, it is us the clubs that has the power to change things if we want to. Having meetings outside the league is ridiculous. I suppose that we will have the usual dissenter to what I have said but if you really look at all the posts it is the same few that constantly criticize.

Thankyou for that Mayo league press office release:rolleyes: If you think clubs are happy you must have your head in the clouds.

[Cloggs]

Im sure they dont have a new pitch, they play in moneen in castlebar just go out by roadstone. But im opening to correction on a different pitch for underage

the underage team play their games in fahy alright.down opposite the national school

[Bestie]

Thankyou for that Mayo league press office release:rolleyes: If you think clubs are happy you must have your head in the clouds.
I have yet to see a positive comment coming from you about anything. I could have predicted who would respond. You are full of sarcasm and incapble of offering anything constructive to football. You would be far better putting your energy into getting your own house in order, and I am not a press officer for anyone.

[rava]

I have yet to see a positive comment coming from you about anything. I could have predicted who would respond. You are full of sarcasm and incapble of offering anything constructive to football. You would be far better putting your energy into getting your own house in order, and I am not a press officer for anyone.

What the hell is that all about. Talk about a hypocrite slating people for getting personal and then you arrive with the above post.

[the 12 th man]

Lads,take it elsewhere,there's a PM system for squabbles like this.

[short_frank]

the underage team play their games in fahy alright.down opposite the national school
Call me stupid (I am sure a lot of people do :D) but how do I get to Fahy from Westport.

[Closed Account]

Call me stupid (I am sure a lot of people do :D) but how do I get to Fahy from Westport.
You're stupid..........:rofl:

A no, seriously, This is the best I could come up with, but I could be wrong
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=Unknown+road&hl=en&geocode=FfSuNQMdsDBv_w%3BFfjtNAMdfLZu_w&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=17&sll=53.849913,-9.489688&sspn=0.003234,0.006899&ie=UTF8&ll=53.849261,-9.490085&spn=0.006468,0.013797&t=h&z=16

[FahyForever]

Frank,

Head out the Castlebar road from Westport about 300 metres past the Castlecourt hotel, take a left immediately after the factory, continue about 4 miles down a winding, potholey road until you pass a church on your right. The pitch is in 100 metres front of you. There you have it. In a mixture of metres and yards.

[The Don]

I have yet to see a positive comment coming from you about anything. I could have predicted who would respond. You are full of sarcasm and incapble of offering anything constructive to football. You would be far better putting your energy into getting your own house in order, and I am not a press officer for anyone.

Hard to know where to start a reply to this. Considering I have spent nearly 20 yrs playing managing and coaching in the Mayo leagues, I would hope that I contributed something positive to the playing of football in the county. I rarely post on these forums and for you to single me out leads me to believe that this is more a personal issue you have with me and if so follow the 12th mans advice and use the pm facility. Also I will continue to try and put my own house in order and thank you for your warm words of encouragement.

[Thunderblaster]

Frank,

Head out the Castlebar road from Westport about 300 metres past the Castlecourt hotel, take a left immediately after the factory, continue about 4 miles down a winding, potholey road until you pass a church on your right. The pitch is in 100 metres front of you. There you have it. In a mixture of metres and yards.

If you were coming in from Castlebar, it is the turn right before the old Portwest factory (also known by the older generation as the old Starlight Ballroom). Just to warn you that the road is not brilliantly signposted.

[FahyForever]

I have yet to see a positive comment coming from you about anything. I could have predicted who would respond. You are full of sarcasm and incapble of offering anything constructive to football. You would be far better putting your energy into getting your own house in order, and I am not a press officer for anyone.

I have been on this forum for a few years now and despite not knowing The Don my experience has been that he is one of the more reasonable, unbiased and helpful contributors in the Mayo League threads. If he has a grievance with the Mayo League I think it it is far more likely to be genuine than some pointless attempt at undermining their authority.

I have spoken to lots of people involved in quite a few teams in the league who have expressed dismay and disappointment in the rule changes, the overruling and the pedantry of the league this year, but mostly with their lack of consistency and transparency. It seems to me that they are a closed shop, who have now come to consider the actual teams who constitute their league as cash-cows, rather than the grass-roots of the game. What you don't seem to understand is that people can have problems and gripes with the system without having the time to become part of it.

I think the standard of football in the Mayo League is at the lowest ebb that it has been since I got involved, seven years ago or so. That should be the main concern of the Mayo League, rather than imposing ridiculous rules which premiership clubs don't even adhere to.

[pixiehead]

Is it June that the transfer window is open between the leagues (Counties) does anybody know?

[NoelM]

Is it June that the transfer window is open between the leagues (Counties) does anybody know?

Yes, it is open from 1st June.

[portside]

The fines etc.. are all gettin a but out of hand, it'll be interestin to see will clubs/players remember all this come the MFL dinner dance & Oscar Traynor Team this year???

yourè right, the mafl are elected to help and promote the game but instead are causing grief with fines and crazy rulings.
Maybe some sort of egm could be called to clear the air as i`m sure they must know that people are not happy by the posts on here as a clear signal of this.

[Back n the game]

yourè right, the mafl are elected to help and promote the game but instead are causing grief with fines and crazy rulings.
Maybe some sort of egm could be called to clear the air as i`m sure they must know that people are not happy by the posts on here as a clear signal of this.

From the horses mouth "It was decided last November to reduce all divisions to 8 teams for the 2011 season. This will happen and the only factor to be confirmed is how this will be achieved. The final standings in all Divisions regarding reserve teams and their A teams will dictate the amount of teams to be relegated and the number then to be promoted, i.e if westport B finish in the top two of the Premier then only 1 will be promoted and 3 relegated and this trend will continue down the divisions. this is a 3 year trial period and WILL come into effect in 2011"

Was talking to a club man last night who is directly connected to the ML and this is their stance. They are also considering re-naming all the divisions and may consider reverting to a 2a and 2b type format as before to accomodate the unfortunate teams in Division 2 who will be pushed down to the 5th tier of Mayo football when the new leagues are formed as 8 will come out of division 1 and form a new division 2 on their own. Apparently there are to many possibilities and scenarios to paint a full and clear picture to give to clubs but some sort of notice was issued pre-season or towards the end of last season giving a general outline of what was to come.

Furthermore the ML take absolutly NO notice of anything on this forum and if you have something to say it must be said through your club and put in writing. Only 2 clubs have voiced their discontent with the new format and if this is the situation then all the rubbish we have been reading on this thread is a waste of time. It's time that all posters on here who are affiliated with Clubs in the ML put their writing power to constructive use and call upon the ML to hold clear the air talks with all the clubs in Mayo and clarify once and for all what we can expect in 2011 because as it stands its only chinese whispers and gossip on the sidelines.

[rava]

From the horses mouth "It was decided last November to reduce all divisions to 8 teams for the 2011 season. This will happen and the only factor to be confirmed is how this will be achieved. The final standings in all Divisions regarding reserve teams and their A teams will dictate the amount of teams to be relegated and the number then to be promoted, i.e if westport B finish in the top two of the Premier then only 1 will be promoted and 3 relegated and this trend will continue down the divisions. this is a 3 year trial period and WILL come into effect in 2011"

Was talking to a club man last night who is directly connected to the ML and this is their stance. They are also considering re-naming all the divisions and may consider reverting to a 2a and 2b type format as before to accomodate the unfortunate teams in Division 2 who will be pushed down to the 5th tier of Mayo football when the new leagues are formed as 8 will come out of division 1 and form a new division 2 on their own. Apparently there are to many possibilities and scenarios to paint a full and clear picture to give to clubs but some sort of notice was issued pre-season or towards the end of last season giving a general outline of what was to come.

Furthermore the ML take absolutly NO notice of anything on this forum and if you have something to say it must be said through your club and put in writing. Only 2 clubs have voiced their discontent with the new format and if this is the situation then all the rubbish we have been reading on this thread is a waste of time. It's time that all posters on here who are affiliated with Clubs in the ML put their writing power to constructive use and call upon the ML to hold clear the air talks with all the clubs in Mayo and clarify once and for all what we can expect in 2011 because as it stands its only chinese whispers and gossip on the sidelines.

There arent that many possibilities and scenarios, the only variable is the b teams. So basically they are going to relegate teams along the lines discussed on this forum. I can assure you no team in the league were informed of this. So basically Div 2 teams can call it a day for this season and feck off to the beach. Maybe now a few clubs will get the finger out as back n the game said and put pressure on the League to clarify this matter for once and for all.

[portside]

From the horses mouth "It was decided last November to reduce all divisions to 8 teams for the 2011 season. This will happen and the only factor to be confirmed is how this will be achieved. The final standings in all Divisions regarding reserve teams and their A teams will dictate the amount of teams to be relegated and the number then to be promoted, i.e if westport B finish in the top two of the Premier then only 1 will be promoted and 3 relegated and this trend will continue down the divisions. this is a 3 year trial period and WILL come into effect in 2011"

Was talking to a club man last night who is directly connected to the ML and this is their stance. They are also considering re-naming all the divisions and may consider reverting to a 2a and 2b type format as before to accomodate the unfortunate teams in Division 2 who will be pushed down to the 5th tier of Mayo football when the new leagues are formed as 8 will come out of division 1 and form a new division 2 on their own. Apparently there are to many possibilities and scenarios to paint a full and clear picture to give to clubs but some sort of notice was issued pre-season or towards the end of last season giving a general outline of what was to come.

Furthermore the ML take absolutly NO notice of anything on this forum and if you have something to say it must be said through your club and put in writing. Only 2 clubs have voiced their discontent with the new format and if this is the situation then all the rubbish we have been reading on this thread is a waste of time. It's time that all posters on here who are affiliated with Clubs in the ML put their writing power to constructive use and call upon the ML to hold clear the air talks with all the clubs in Mayo and clarify once and for all what we can expect in 2011 because as it stands its only chinese whispers and gossip on the sidelines.

They seem to be making this up as they go along just for the sake of keeping busy.
As you say there is no clear guidelines and this leads to anger come the seasons end when a club could be relegated or not promoted because of certain criteria.Sort out the rules once and for all and stick with them.
yourè on about chinese whispers and then quote a meeting with a mafl official,the clubs and players are the most important things not the mafl`s ego.

[pixiehead]

Furthermore the ML take absolutly NO notice of anything on this forum .

I dont believe that for a second. Id say 99% of people with a genunie interest in Mayo Soccer read these pages daily. Everybody on here doesnt get on all the time and we all may bicker now and again but the reason for that is that the majority of people on here have a pasion for Mayo Soccer and their own clubs. there are players on here and club officals and im pretty sure there are league officals and referees. We all have one thing in common in that we are essentially the life blood of football in the county. We may not all agree but thats healthy to have debate. The league might say they dont take notice of people on here but because its unoffical they have to say that. Also if they dont take notice of comments on here they are essentialy ignoring the lifeblood and grassroots of the game here. Sometimes the situation reminds me of the economy and how it was run. We made so many strides and yet failed to ignore the cracks that were emerging. Everybody needs to work together now to put football back on track if the really care about the game here. Everyone needs to grow up and take their heads out of the clouds. We as clubs need to take a smack on the arse every so often without sulking but the league too needs to hear what we the clubs are crying out for too. If anyone has a bit of balls out there then i urge a meeting with the clubs to be organised by the league. I would also say that anyone who attends these meetings not throw a tantrum like we have seen recently and simply debate this thing out so we can all move on.... I can guarentee one thing, if these problems are not listened to by both sides then football will take a step back that it will take a long time to recover from! Most people have already heard the comment this year "the Quaility of the super league is Sh1te"- well let me tell you that if the rot is not stopped soon the cracks will get bigger till whole thing bursts open!!!

Its time now for everybody to wake up notice that the house is falling down!:clock: