Mayo Association Football League

[GoodFootball]

We needed the game against good opposition to prepare for the final, same goes for S'n'F so I guess each game had some significance?

[theboy]

Speaking of the final, how are both teams fixed for it? Any thoughts lads on who'll win it. the fact that both these teams hav now gone from the SL does this mean anything with regards to the standard this year?

[poker]

best of luck to both of ye hope its a good one

[FahyForever]

Anyone know what time the final is???? Trying to advertise it a bit.

[pixiehead]

I doubt very much if Erris would agree with you or Westport Utd for that matter either. Both of these clubs were in contention for second place in the Super League and they would have thrown away the chance of €1000 for second place in the league. Westport needed the point on Sunday last to claim the money.

No Erris would not agree with me its only my opinion but if you read my post I never mentioned Westport because they certainly were in contention

[swinfordfc]

So who's going to stay in the Premier Division next year ... Bangor Hibs or Clew Bay Utd ... great game next sunday :)

[pixiehead]

So who's going to stay in the Premier Division next year ... Bangor Hibs or Clew Bay Utd ... great game next sunday :)

Going on form they are both very evenly matched. Clew bay are young and like to play football so they might sneek it. But on another note, surely they wont be allowed to play in the school grounds next year should they be promoted?? Its a shocking standard pitch at the best of times

[The Don]

So who's going to stay in the Premier Division next year ... Bangor Hibs or Clew Bay Utd ... great game next sunday :)

Whether its goning to be good game or not is irrelevant. Its a shame one of these two teams who have worked this hard to get where they are, are going to find themselves demoted because of a ridiculous experiment by the league. All season clubs have been asking for clarification on this restructuring of the leagues and I am sure Clew Bay must have thought that a win yesterday would have kept them safe. On the reverse side of the coin Ballyglass could have forced a play off to the superleague and instead find themselves relegated this morning. How much longer are we going to put up with this crap?.

[Back n the game]

Whether its goning to be good game or not is irrelevant. Its a shame one of these two teams who have worked this hard to get where they are, are going to find themselves demoted because of a ridiculous experiment by the league. All season clubs have been asking for clarification on this restructuring of the leagues and I am sure Clew Bay must have thought that a win yesterday would have kept them safe. On the reverse side of the coin Ballyglass could have forced a play off to the superleague and instead find themselves relegated this morning. How much longer are we going to put up with this crap?.


Seems like we ARE just happy to put up with it.... how many clubs signed up to the clubs commitee which you guys were trying to organise?? like everything else on here and in Mayo Football all talk and no action and now we end up in this sh1t. For god sakes lads someone has got to shout STOP.

[walshek]

Hi ALL. Why can't the following be completed by all clubs involved in this mess.

1. Letter sent by all clubs involved sent in before AGM question the followin
1. Letter from League outlinning the new structure. As we all know this did not happen
2. Minutes of meeting + who voted from all clubs to bring in this new structures.


To be honest this should happen before any play - off or so are outlined

[The Don]

Hi ALL. Why can't the following be completed by all clubs involved in this mess.

1. Letter sent by all clubs involved sent in before AGM question the followin
1. Letter from League outlinning the new structure. As we all know this did not happen
2. Minutes of meeting + who voted from all clubs to bring in this new structures.


To be honest this should happen before any play - off or so are outlined

Have the clubs involved in playoff the balls to refuse to play. It would be a very difficult stance to make.

[walshek]

why not? ask for where all this was documented. league over. we finished 3rd from bottom. why are you making me play a play off. no one told use of a legue format change etc

[rava]

Whatever happened to the clubs association. This is the worst case scenario for a lot of clubs, I wouldnt mind the league totally misled the clubs in the last couple of weeks including Tom Kelly in the Connaught Telegraph who said the super league was been reduced to 8 teams, he failed to mention that the rest of them were being reduced also. Ballyglass must be shellshocked.

[theboy]

Has anyone a rough draft done up of how these famous leagues will look next season?

[The Don]

Whatever happened to the clubs association. This is the worst case scenario for a lot of clubs, I wouldnt mind the league totally misled the clubs in the last couple of weeks including Tom Kelly in the Connaught Telegraph who said the super league was been reduced to 8 teams, he failed to mention that the rest of them were being reduced also. Ballyglass must be shellshocked.

One of the Ballyglass lads told me that Bangor started telling them five miutes before kick off that if they lost they would be relegated. Ballyglass had no idea before this and how would they. Strange how bangor knew the full story:rolleyes:

[Round Tower]

Has anyone a rough draft done up of how these famous leagues will look next season?

On the Mid West web site it says that the format of the leagues for next season will be anounced after the league meeting on Tuesday night

[jim_bob]

2011 superleague....
ballina town
westport
erris
manulla
castlebar celtic
swinford
claremorris
ballinrobe

2011 premier division......
bangor or clewbay united
fahy
snugboro
ballyheane
s&f
westport b
killala
connrangers

2011 division one
charlestown
westport c
bangor or clewbay united
ballyglass
crossmolina
erris b
kilmore
partry
thats how the leagues look to be set up now but im sure the mayo league hot shots will mess it up a little bit more

[baywatch]

Going on form they are both very evenly matched. Clew bay are young and like to play football so they might sneek it. But on another note, surely they wont be allowed to play in the school grounds next year should they be promoted?? Its a shocking standard pitch at the best of times

mayo have league have passed our pitch as good enough AGAIN this year.... you are starting to sond like a broken record over this.get over it

[rava]

2011 superleague....
ballina town
westport
erris
manulla
castlebar celtic
swinford
claremorris
ballinrobe

2011 premier division......
bangor or clewbay united
fahy
snugboro
ballyheane
s&f
westport b
killala
connrangers

2011 division one
charlestown
westport c
bangor or clewbay united
ballyglass
crossmolina
erris b
kilmore
partry
thats how the leagues look to be set up now but im sure the mayo league hot shots will mess it up a little bit more

Will the clubs finally say enough is enough tonight or will they bend over and take it as usual.I hope some of them speak up and make their voices heard.

[theboy]

Think its to late for clubs to say anything at this stage, so there all goin to have to get on with it now.

Accordin to the con telegraph there'll be 6 leagues with 8 teams per league.

As it said in the paper ballyglass were the big losers, if they won they would be in the super league but they lost so they are goin to be in the new division 1 not even stayin in the premier league.

but all will be cleared up after the ML meeting 2nite..

[The Don]

Think its to late for clubs to say anything at this stage, so there all goin to have to get on with it now.

Accordin to the con telegraph there'll be 6 leagues with 8 teams per league.

As it said in the paper ballyglass were the big losers, if they won they would be in the super league but they lost so they are goin to be in the new division 1 not even stayin in the premier league.

but all will be cleared up after the ML meeting 2nite..

Sorry I just cant agree with you on this one, I think the clubs should not just get on with it, they should ask some serious questions from their league which is elected by them to run THEIR league. All season clubs have been asking for clarification of the relegation issues but to no avail, but low and behold just hours after the final round of games is played it has been decided.How is this possible, were they waiting for the games to finish to see how the leagues were going to be restructured!!!, or what clubs it would effect. Ballglass and Clew Bay were oblivious to the conceqences of the results of their games until it was to late, while Bangor were only to aware of what was happening, how is this fair?.
So no the clubs should not just get on with it.

[etoo]

as soon as the new chairman(PMcH) was appointed there was always going to trouble.
the only time he thinks of the clubs is when hes given them fine after fine. the mayo league are just a money making machine and i wouldnt be surprised if alot of clubs just stopped altogether.

[Round Tower]

Sorry I just cant agree with you on this one, I think the clubs should not just get on with it, they should ask some serious questions from their league which is elected by them to run THEIR league. All season clubs have been asking for clarification of the relegation issues but to no avail, but low and behold just hours after the final round of games is played it has been decided.How is this possible, were they waiting for the games to finish to see how the leagues were going to be restructured!!!, or what clubs it would effect. Ballglass and Clew Bay were oblivious to the conceqences of the results of their games until it was to late, while Bangor were only to aware of what was happening, how is this fair?.
So no the clubs should not just get on with it.

Is it that no one from Ballyglass or Clew Bay clubs is on this forum as this situation has been well documented for the last couple of months. Have ye heard the latest bixare twist to this craxy season they have a play-off match between the 2 teams which finished 8 and 9 in Division 1 Knock/Kiltimagh V Castlebar Celtic B fixed for Sunday in Swinford, what happens to the loosers of this game what division will they be in next season?. If any new clubs want to enter the Mayo league next season or if a club wanted to enter a secound team or third team next season what happen then. Would both clubs have grounds to appeal this play-off to the Conaught FA and if not sucessfull to the FAI if not only on moral grounds that a club was not made aware of thesituation till its too late.This situation would strike me a situation that the late Charles Haughy described in the early 80's as
G-Grotescee
U-Unbelievable
B-Bizzare
U-Unprecidented

[Closed Account]

I would advise anyone hoping to reverse the 8 team division to have an iron clad argument as trying to argue with the Mayo League at the moment is like talking to the wall.
The 8 Team Division for 2011 was confirmed at the AGM back on the 4th of March.

John Durkan (http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9137:new-chairman-for-mayo-soccer-league&catid=14&Itemid=100008) confirmed that all divisions will be reduced to eight teams for the 2011 season.Without being at the AGM, its impossible to know if it was all above board.
Who proposed the changes and seconded it?
Was it voted and passed by a two thirds majority?
Was everyone who was entitled to attend the AGM (two club members) notified of the proposed changes 1 calendar month before the AGM? Were the proposed changes submitted to the League before the 31st of January?

My main gripe with all of this was the manner in which it's being enforced, but unfortunately I don't think the League were under any obligation on this matter.

Before a ball was kicked this season, the League should of sent out the procedures that would be used to create 8 team divisions. I know there was some ambiguity about it because of the possibility of a B team coming 1st or 2nd in the Premier but that could of been outlined. Its shows a complete lack of respect for the Clubs in each division, the cornerstones of the league, that nobody knew even before the last league of the season, where they stood regarding next season.

[The Don]

Why is everybody referring to the league as if they are some higher being?. They are the elected representives of the clubs to run the league on behalf of them, somewhere along the line this has been lost. All clubs should have known exactly where they stood at the start of the season, this is the least they deserved. I know Ballyglass and Clew Bay were aware of the situation but they were like the rest of us lulled into thinking in recent weeks it was only going to be the superleague going to 8 teams this year. Clubs seriously need to look at the league rule book which has progressively given more power to the league over the years through sneeky little rule changes voted on at the end of meetings and the clubs own neglect in not realising what they were voting for in many cases.

[Back n the game]

Look guys the clubs showed their total lack of interest when they didnt support the people trying to form a commitee to get answers from the ML. Now im not personaly involved with any club at the present time but im disgusted at the sheer contempt with which the league has treated the clubs this year and like wise the fashion in which the clubs have stood up for themselves. Most were just content on letting someone else deal with it and had no desire to find out what the League had in mind for 2011. I comend the Don and his comrades for trying to set up a stand alone group seeking answers and making proposals but alas, as I posted here earlier in the season not enough people with balls to back them. Now the crying and whinging will start in earnest.......... bolting the door when the horse is gone im afraid and I would be shocked beyond belief if the ML do a U turn at this stage. The whole thing is a mess, its like changing all 4 tyres when you get a puncture in 1. If they wanted to change things then start with the SL next season and progress from there if it proved sucessful the following seasons.

[taztkblue]

Look guys the clubs showed their total lack of interest when they didnt support the people trying to form a commitee to get answers from the ML. Now im not personaly involved with any club at the present time but im disgusted at the sheer contempt with which the league has treated the clubs this year and like wise the fashion in which the clubs have stood up for themselves. Most were just content on letting someone else deal with it and had no desire to find out what the League had in mind for 2011. I comend the Don and his comrades for trying to set up a stand alone group seeking answers and making proposals but alas, as I posted here earlier in the season not enough people with balls to back them. Now the crying and whinging will start in earnest.......... bolting the door when the horse is gone im afraid and I would be shocked beyond belief if the ML do a U turn at this stage. The whole thing is a mess, its like changing all 4 tyres when you get a puncture in 1. If they wanted to change things then start with the SL next season and progress from there if it proved sucessful the following seasons.


Is there an delegates meeting tonight and if so what time?

[jim_bob]

jeremy d announced live on mid west radio that clew bay were safe after our win against ballinrobe. then at 9pm sunday nite we get a email saying that a playoff has been fixed for sunday. we all knew that there was going to be confusion on the last day but it was made worse by jeremy announcing that. im not blaming jeremy but he should have got his facts right before he said anything.

[achillrover]

2011 division one
charlestown
westport c
bangor or clewbay united
ballyglass
crossmolina
erris b
kilmore
partry
thats how the leagues look to be set up now but im sure the mayo league hot shots will mess it up a little bit more

just from our own point of view, how does it make sense for the likes of charlestown and westport c skip in essence a full division and play against teams who were premier divison last season? surely thats putting them two teams at a disadvantage in that division straight and away and im sure everyone at moy villa, urlaur, mulranny, feel that they would be well able to give these teams a fair crack instead. wont be too happy with the situation and if this playoff between celtic b and k+k is true too then its a complete joke. frankly having a division whereby 2 teams got promoted and 8 teams get relegated just doesnt make sense. (although the 2 teams who did get promoted did deserve it)

[rava]

jeremy d announced live on mid west radio that clew bay were safe after our win against ballinrobe. then at 9pm sunday nite we get a email saying that a playoff has been fixed for sunday. we all knew that there was going to be confusion on the last day but it was made worse by jeremy announcing that. im not blaming jeremy but he should have got his facts right before he said anything.

Kinda reinforces the idea that it was a last minute discission based on results. How many clubs did join the clubs association.

[rava]

Think its to late for clubs to say anything at this stage, so there all goin to have to get on with it now.

Accordin to the con telegraph there'll be 6 leagues with 8 teams per league.

As it said in the paper ballyglass were the big losers, if they won they would be in the super league but they lost so they are goin to be in the new division 1 not even stayin in the premier league.

but all will be cleared up after the ML meeting 2nite..

Just looking back at the connaught for the past few weeks and the paper and its sports editor should be ashamed of some of the propaganda it has spewed out in the past few weeks.

[Closed Account]

Just looking back at the connaught for the past few weeks and the paper and its sports editor should be ashamed of some of the propaganda it has spewed out in the past few weeks.
Haven't really read it, what have they been saying?

[renovater]

I don't Know why so many of you are getting so upset for, first of all will you read your M.L rule book,
The League has under its own rules the Power to form as many divisions as it wishes.
The secretary J.D. informed you at the A.G.M. 4TH March.
some of you are contented to blame the Chairman more of you The M.L. At what point do you take on the responsibility and deal with the matter. A part from the The Don the rest of you just moan on about it.I have always said action speaks louder than words, so what action are you going to do.
As for my part it doesn't matter how many teams are in each division, what does matter thou are you getting value for money.

[Closed Account]

I knew all year they were going to be making 8 team divisions, and although I disagree with it as I can't see any way it'll make the standard of football better, I've accepted that its going to happen. As I said earlier, I disagree with the way the Mayo League went about it. There shouldn't of been any ambiguity about how relegation/promotion would be decided at the end of the season. There should of been a press release and correspondence sent out to the clubs. It would of taken less than an hour to do by email.
Its too late to do anything now, the Mayo League have damaged their own reputation in a lot of peoples minds.

[Round Tower]

I don't Know why so many of you are getting so upset for, first of all will you read your M.L rule book,
The League has under its own rules the Power to form as many divisions as it wishes.
The secretary J.D. informed you at the A.G.M. 4TH March.
some of you are contented to blame the Chairman more of you The M.L. At what point do you take on the responsibility and deal with the matter. A part from the The Don the rest of you just moan on about it.I have always said action speaks louder than words, so what action are you going to do.
As for my part it doesn't matter how many teams are in each division, what does matter thou are you getting value for money.

I heard that at the last AGM when it was anounced the ML was asked with 8 teams leagues it meant that they would be 25% less games would there the ML fees also decrease by 25% and hen was told emphaticaly no that clubs would save on less refere fees, i dont know the exact fees ML charge but 1 less referee cost is hardly 25% of ML fees.

[jim_bob]

what is wrong with phaseing it in over 2 seasons????? it makes more sense and gives teams the oppurtunity to fight for promotion/relegation or
SAFE mid table. i think some teams who are forced to get relegated down the divisions might lose some of their best players to a team who either got promoted or stayed where they are. which is goin to possibly make that team drop again the next season or quit altogether. thats on my opinion so dont shout at me!!!!!!!

[pixiehead]

All clubs were asked to sign up to a clubs association to solve this and other matters and with a common interest for all clubs. Im not going to give figures but suffice to say that it is deeply frustrating and maddening that there are posters on here moaning who belong to clubs who showed no interest in the association and didnt even have the respect to even give it a listen never mind sign up. By this they have shown fear and acceptance of injustice that will only flourish with time. A massive fair play to the clubs and reps who have shown interest, for them I will always have a profound respect.For those who were willing to take it in the rectum then less of your moaning, you have only your selfs to blame!

[pixiehead]

as soon as the new chairman(PMcH) was appointed there was always going to trouble.
the only time he thinks of the clubs is when hes given them fine after fine. the mayo league are just a money making machine and i wouldnt be surprised if alot of clubs just stopped altogether.

http://www.patfullerton.com/lh/movies/finemess.html :disdain: needs volume

[pixiehead]

Mayo League Divisions 2011

Super League

Ballina Town
Ballinrobe Town
Castlebar Celtic
Claremorris
Iorras Aontaithe
Manulla
Swinford
Westport Utd.

Premier ‘A’
Ballyheane
Bangor Hibs or Clew Bay Utd.
Conn Rangers
Fahy Rovers
Killala
Snugboro Utd.
Straide & Foxford Utd.
Westport Utd. ‘B’

Premier ‘B’

Ballyglass
Bangor Hibs or Clew Bay Utd.
Crossmolina
Iorras Aontaithe ‘B’
Kilmore
Moy Villa
Mulranny Utd.
Partry Athletic

League One
Achill Rovers
Ballyvary Blue Bombers
Castlebar Celtic ‘B’ or Kiltimagh/Knock Utd.
Charlestown Athletic
Claremorris ‘B’
Inver Utd.
Urlaur Utd.
Westport Utd. ‘C’

League Two

Ballina Utd.
Ballyhaunis Town
Castlebar Celtic ‘B’ or Kiltimagh/Knock Utd.
Cross Celtic
Glenhest Rovers
Manulla ‘B’
Parkside Celtic
Straide & Foxford Utd. ‘B’

League Three
Ballyglass ‘B’
Ballyheane ‘B’
Bangor Hibs. ‘B’
Conn Rangers ‘B’
Crossmolina ‘B’
Hollister
Moy Villa ‘B’
Swinford ‘B’

There it is.......abracadabra ......clone a premier division and hope that nobody notices :laugh:

[juan pablo]

'Premier A' & Premier 'B' ?????

Wonder how this will work. Top 2 in each division will play off in a playoff and the top 2 get promoted to Super League??

[rava]

'Premier A' & Premier 'B' ?????

Wonder how this will work. Top 2 in each division will play off in a playoff and the top 2 get promoted to Super League??

If thats the case Killala and Conn rangers have just been punished for being promoted

[Closed Account]

Charlestown, Westport C, Ballina United and Ballyhaunis Town missed out on promotion.

Manulla B, Swinford B and Ballyheane B have been relegated two divisions.

Playoff between Celtic B and K/K United to decide whether you're down 1 or 2 divisions.

I genuinely do feel sorry for Charlestown. 15 wins and a draw from 16 games and still don't get promoted. Thats not value for money.

[Closed Account]

'Premier A' & Premier 'B' ?????

Wonder how this will work. Top 2 in each division will play off in a playoff and the top 2 get promoted to Super League??
If it was working that way JP, then why bother with the playoff between Bangor Hibs and Clew Bay. I think the naming of the divisions is just a bit of tautology from the ML but I wouldn't expect to get it cleared up until this time next year.

[rava]

Haven't really read it, what have they been saying?

We had tk last week talking about the high standard and competitive nature of the superleague and then he went on to say how Ballina won 10 on the trot, the very nature of a competitive league is teams dont win 10 games on the trot, can anyone here remember a less competitive season or even one upset of a result.
The case of the Erris player biting someone should not have been reported on until proven. The case of the Ballyheane secretary was just wrong, what a thing to do to somebody. Celtic asked them recently to retract a report when they were named as employers of a person involved in a court case, they refused to do so even though they knew he was employed by the mayo league.

[The Don]

If it was working that way JP, then why bother with the playoff between Bangor Hibs and Clew Bay. I think the naming of the divisions is just a bit of tautology from the ML but I wouldn't expect to get it cleared up until this time next year.

Carefull now or you might get another call:)

[poker]

Well done to both,but maybe this conn can get points on the pitch and not thru the mayo league.no shame!!!!!

[Round Tower]

Mayo League Divisions 2011

Super League

Ballina Town
Ballinrobe Town
Castlebar Celtic
Claremorris
Iorras Aontaithe
Manulla
Swinford
Westport Utd.

Premier ‘A’
Ballyheane
Bangor Hibs or Clew Bay Utd.
Conn Rangers
Fahy Rovers
Killala
Snugboro Utd.
Straide & Foxford Utd.
Westport Utd. ‘B’

Premier ‘B’

Ballyglass
Bangor Hibs or Clew Bay Utd.
Crossmolina
Iorras Aontaithe ‘B’
Kilmore
Moy Villa
Mulranny Utd.
Partry Athletic

League One
Achill Rovers
Ballyvary Blue Bombers
Castlebar Celtic ‘B’ or Kiltimagh/Knock Utd.
Charlestown Athletic
Claremorris ‘B’
Inver Utd.
Urlaur Utd.
Westport Utd. ‘C’

League Two

Ballina Utd.
Ballyhaunis Town
Castlebar Celtic ‘B’ or Kiltimagh/Knock Utd.
Cross Celtic
Glenhest Rovers
Manulla ‘B’
Parkside Celtic
Straide & Foxford Utd. ‘B’

League Three
Ballyglass ‘B’
Ballyheane ‘B’
Bangor Hibs. ‘B’
Conn Rangers ‘B’
Crossmolina ‘B’
Hollister
Moy Villa ‘B’
Swinford ‘B’

There it is.......abracadabra ......clone a premier division and hope that nobody notices :laugh:

What a joke the loosers Killala, Conn Rangers and Charlestown get promoted but dont. This Premier B have they said what is the situation does the top team in each division meet in a play-off or does the top 2 in Premier A get promoted to the Super league bar Westport B been 1 of them or will we have to wait till this time next season to find out the situation.

[Phoenix]

What a joke the loosers Killala, Conn Rangers and Charlestown get promoted but dont. This Premier B have they said what is the situation does the top team in each division meet in a play-off or does the top 2 in Premier A get promoted to the Super league bar Westport B been 1 of them or will we have to wait till this time next season to find out the situation.[/QUOTE]

A couple of seasons ago there was a Div 2A & 2B. Top team from each got promoted and 2nd place teams played a play-off, with the winner playing the 3rd Bottom Team in the Div above. Very messy.
Why could the Mayo League not have come out in April-Sept and not have advised clubs of the magical formula. The guy's who came up with the mathmatical Duckworth Lewis Method of deciding Cricket games got knighted yesterday. I wonder if the geniuses that came up with the very closely guarded formula for deciding the fate of Charlestown, Ballyglass, Manulla B got the call yet?????? Surely it cannot go unrewarded!!

Congrats to JP & tiger and all the Ballinrobe lads on getting promoted. Great turnaround this year. Well deserved.

[rava]

[/QUOTE]
Why could the Mayo League not have come out in April-Sept and not have advised clubs of the magical formula. The guy's who came up with the mathmatical Duckworth Lewis Method of deciding Cricket games got knighted yesterday. I wonder if the geniuses that came up with the very closely guarded formula for deciding the fate of Charlestown, Ballyglass, Manulla B got the call yet?????? Surely it cannot go unrewarded!![/QUOTE]

Yeah could just picture them explaining it. " well all you need is a hat and some names......."

[Closed Account]

A couple of seasons ago there was a Div 2A & 2B. Top team from each got promoted and 2nd place teams played a play-off, with the winner playing the 3rd Bottom Team in the Div above. Very messy.
The difference between 2A/2B and Premier A/B is that Div 2A/2B were the bottom division then and which teams played in each division was determined by a draw. With Premier A/B, the teams involved are determined by league position with Premier A being the stronger division. So I can't see them using the aforementioned convoluted promotion system. It wouldn't be logical.(not that that's a deterent).