Shane Long

[BonnieShels]

I burst out laughing on the luas at this exchange. Huzzah.

[paul_oshea]

well, i suppose i could tell the story about the time i met oprah winfrey. It has to do with me throwing up on a flight from atlanta.

marta?


I burst out laughing on the luas at this exchange. Huzzah.

Thats cos you're a nerd who gets his entertainment off football forums.

[Stuttgart88]

Well, I suppose I could tell the story about the time i met Oprah Winfrey. It has to do with me throwing up on a flight from Atlanta.

Go on then, out with it.

[dr_peepee]

That's what she said!!

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Long trips himself up, wins penalty, Jelavic predictably misses it and Rosenior scores from the rebound.

[SkStu]

Long grabs Hulls second.

[DeLorean]

That must have been a sweet one for him, shame Clarke isn't still in charge though.

[SkStu]

Long trips himself up, wins penalty, Jelavic predictably misses it and Rosenior scores from the rebound.

I don't think he tripped himself up - just seen it and it was a complete dive.

[tricky_colour]

He just hit the post near top right hand corner.

Don't know who will score Hulls next goal but it wont be long
before they get another.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Long denied a second goal by the woodwork. Excellent long-range effort after some more good link-up play with Koren.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Long joins the lengthening list of injured Irish players.

Long, McShane and Brady all injured now.

Quinn's season has been ruined by injury.

Eyes on Meyler's cruciates now with a potential FA Cup final on the horizon.

[Stuttgart88]

What's Long's injury?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Steve Bruce doesn't believe it is serious. Then again, he didn't believe that Brady's fitness/injury problems were serious either so....

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Steve-Bruce-Shane-Long-penalty-right-decision/story-20842657-detail/story.html

Shane Long tweets defense against dive accusations; comments from Meyler.

[tricky_colour]

Long didn't even appeal he carried on playing, not his fault the ref gave a penalty.

[SkStu]

His fall was very divacious.

Maybe he made to play on as he thought he might get a yellow!

[geysir]

:)
I was just about to check up on the meaning on that 'word'.

[paul_oshea]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/23/why-west-brom-were-right-to-sell-shane-long-to-hull-city-4673639/

[Stuttgart88]

I saw it on MOTD, and was expecting to see a dive. I'm pretty sure it wasn't though. He had his calf clipped and a push on his shoulder both around the same time. It was a tangle of legs, a very soft penalty but not a dive in my opinion.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Selling Long maybe would have made sense if they weren't relying on Anichebe, Vydra, Sessegnon, Anelka (at the time) and Berahino to score the goals to save them from relegation. Long offers more than all of them and they don't offer the goals to counteract that. There is no fluidity or rhythm to their attack anymore.

Look at How Hull's attacking play has benefited from signing Long. Jelavic looks pretty shocking at times and even he is benefiting from it. It's not just the goals - and they have come in handy - but it's the way they play.

His goalscoring return isn't even that meager when you take everything in to account. Aside from Aguero, Sturridge, Rooney, Aguero and Giroud who all have at least twice as many goals as Long but make more in a week than he does in a year, strikers who score more than Long are:

Remy (13)
V. Persie (11)
Lukaku (11)
Bony (10)
Negredo (9)
Benteke (9)
Welbeck (9)
Lambert (9)
Eto'o (8)
Adebayor (8)
Dzeko (8)

If Long is not value for money, then what are Dzeko, Adebayor, Eto'o, Welbeck, Negredo and Soldado. Even Van Wolfswinkel earns more than Long and he hasn't scored in 22 games! 10m pounds and he has no technique whatsoever!

[Paddy Garcia]

He received some vile abuse from a section of WBA fans in front of his young daughter - upset her, understandably, according to reports.

[tricky_colour]

He is currently the second best Irish player on stats behind Coleman and in front of McCarthy (Delaney next).
Took his goal well I thought, poachers sort of goal.

[Stuttgart88]

Stats. Hmmm.

[Charlie Darwin]

Stats. Hmmm.
Stats, I don't trust them. Stats don't pass the Stutts gut test for me.

[tricky_colour]

Stats. Hmmm.

David Moyes swears by them :)

Also I must say I was surprised Shearer saying he was a big fan of him, seems
he is a bigger fan of him than anyone Irish!!!

Furthermore you are in no position to criticise when your name is very nearly Statsgart.

[tricky_colour]

Stats, I don't trust them. Stats don't pass the Stutts gut test for me.

Very good!! If indeed you meant that, it's so good I can't be 100% sure!!!

[Charlie Darwin]

Very good!! If indeed you meant that, it's so good I can't be 100% sure!!!
Try saying "Stats don't pass the Stutts gut test" five times really quickly.

[gastric]

Great character reference from Ben Foster in defence of Long. Should shut up those fans who accused him of diving and end any ongoing debate.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/foster-insists-long-no-diver-after-angry-baggies-fans-confront-star-30118777.html

[paul_oshea]

Try saying "Stats don't pass the Stutts gut test" five times really quickly.

When i read it thats exactly what i did. Was that intended though? I think not.

[SkStu]

Great character reference from Ben Foster in defence of Long. Should shut up those fans who accused him of diving and end any ongoing debate.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/foster-insists-long-no-diver-after-angry-baggies-fans-confront-star-30118777.html

Why would that piece end any debate about the incident? It looks really, really like a dive. The shape of his body and legs as he falls all scream dive to me. I'm a huge fan of Longs and I don't really care about whether dived or not but the outrage needs to be curbed by the evidence.

http://youtu.be/jRJc8_65hD4

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/hull-2-west-brom-0/

[Charlie Darwin]

If it was a dive I don't really see why he got back up so quickly and played on, unless he had planned to dive, realised he'd made a mess of it and tried to cover it up, only to be hoist by his own petard so to speak and awarded the penalty nonetheless.

[ifk101]

It's a dive. He's on the way down before any possible contact with the defender is made.

[SkStu]

If it was a dive I don't really see why he got back up so quickly and played on, unless he had planned to dive, realised he'd made a mess of it and tried to cover it up, only to be hoist by his own petard so to speak and awarded the penalty nonetheless.

See my post 1265 above. I think that is what happened.

[Stuttgart88]

His calf is clipped and he tripped up. That's how I saw it, maybe through slightly green tinted glasses. I think Shearer called it right, neither a dive nor a foul but a tangle of legs.

[geysir]

He stumbled for whatever reason and got straight back up, an incident not worth all this focus.
To suggest that he intended to dive, wasn't convinced by his own theatrics and decided to let on he didn't dive, would be subterfuge of the highest order, and Shane (God love him) is not in the Derren Brown league.

[Stuttgart88]

In preparing my regular defence against my rugby mate who emails me every time an unsavoury incident occurs in football I was thinking earlier just how much focus every incident in football gets. This week (he hasn't emailed me yet!) I have noticed a fight between Rovers and Bohs fans (Charlie D was right, they got together in town rather than at the ground :)), a banner at Bayern calling Arsenal "gay", a game pulled up in Salzburg due to missiles, Ronaldo whinging about the ref, an alleged dive by Long, direct personal abuse by WBA fans and other incidents. But whilst not denying that there is a lot of unsavoury stuff in football, it's no wonder so much of it is in the public gaze. Every professional game in every major country is televised in one form or another. 24 hour news channels report on every burp and fart by a footballer, a mike is put in front of every manager's gob after every game as well as their mandatory (daily? weekly?) press conferences. Furthermore, in so far as football is now a TV product first and foremost, as long as none of this stuff impacts rating and viewing numbers there'll never be any real drive to have it any other way.

As G says "an incident not worth the focus" but at the same time every incident attracts focus. It's part of the Faustian bargain big-time football made when it sold itself in its entirety to TV.

[SkStu]

I see a lot of TOWK in you, Stutts.

[Stuttgart88]

I can interpret that several ways. Maybe I'd be better off not knowing which one fits.

[John83]

I see a lot of TOWK in you, Stutts.
I don't know about that. I've never been tempted to put Stutts on my ignore list, whereas I resisted that temptation with TWOK twice already today.

[gastric]

Why would that piece end any debate about the incident? It looks really, really like a dive. The shape of his body and legs as he falls all scream dive to me. I'm a huge fan of Longs and I don't really care about whether dived or not but the outrage needs to be curbed by the evidence.

http://youtu.be/jRJc8_65hD4

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/hull-2-west-brom-0/

The debate on here would suggest that it is certainly not clear. Foster's defence of Long is refreshing and will hopefully influence the fans.

[tricky_colour]

Apparently Shane will be on the next series of Splash :)

[paul_oshea]

I can interpret that several ways. Maybe I'd be better off not knowing which one fits.

I'd say it all fits well, as Stu suggested.

[Crosby87]

WBA fans torn about the incident:

http://www.new-606.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=26427&page=2

[geysir]

Shane's team lost tonight to a poor West Ham team. A truly bizarre decision by the ref to send off the Hull goalie and award a penalty which put Hull on the back foot but it still took yet another bizarre own goal incident for West Ham to get the winner.

[Crosby87]

Why did WBA sell Shane asks one reporter.
http://www.footballfancast.com/premiership/west-bromwich-albion/will-west-brom-regret-selling-him

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Denied a stonewall penalty for the 7th or 8th time this season. He's building himself quite a reputation; rightly or wrongly.

[tricky_colour]

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!

Not to be upstaged by Coleman, Long buried a header too, but this time in the right net.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

https://vine.co/v/MvbmHPDdKga/embed

[DannyInvincible]

https://vine.co/v/MvbmHPDdKga/embed


Long and Coleman have 6 each and I am going to go out on a limb and say that they won't score any more.

Wrong on both counts! :p

[Stuttgart88]

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!

Not to be upstaged by Coleman, Long buried a header too, but this time in the right net.
Good header, but great run. Arrived at the back post by stealth.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-City-Shane-Long-s-blistering-pace-worth/story-21023225-detail/story.html

Long is well worth the price tag.