Shane Long

[tricky_colour]

WBA were going to sign a couple of strikers hence they sold Long, however the deals fell through and they had to 'unsell' Long!!!

Does not really leave Long in a great position really does it? Playing for a club that does not want him.

However I just hope he gets his head down and get on with it, don't think he is the type to go into a sulk
plus on the bright side Hull want him, and they are 2 points above WBA at the moment.

A bit from Kevin Kilbane about transfer deadline day



Kevin Kilbane column: "I didn't have time to read the contract"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23760763

[dr_peepee]

I don't think it was a simple as that. There was something about recent contract negotiations falling through so it might have been a case of offloading him now for a reasonable amount rather than loosing him for little or nothing over the next 2 windows. Provided they could find adequate cover.

[tricky_colour]

Well I was not suggesting it was simple, if it gets any more complicated my head will probably explode!!

I think that is one of the problems with the transfer deadline, too much complicated interrelated business going on in a very short period of time

[DannyInvincible]

Shane Long's headed goal for WBA against Chelsea earlier:


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x170afk_chelsea-vs-west-bromwich-1-1-shane-long_sport#from=embediframe

Three Chelsea defenders somehow left flat-footed, but he did well to barge his way in and connect.

[tricky_colour]

I always think Shane is taller than he really is I guess his name Long kind of make you think he is pretty
tall, the commentators were saying he did well for a short guy, although 6 foot is hardly short in my
book but I guess it is for getting headers in the penalty area. He did really well to head it in, just a shame
about that dodgy penalty.
Nice to see him starting the match.

[DeLorean]

I was the opposite. Thought he was smaller than he actually is for ages. I think it was because he has pace that you'd normally associate with a smaller player. It was a really super spring for his goal, badly needed.

[BonnieShels]

I was the opposite. Thought he was smaller than he actually is for ages. I think it was because he has pace that you'd normally associate with a smaller player. It was a really super spring for his goal, badly needed.

I'm with you on this. Everytime I hear he's six-foot I think... "Wha?"

[DannyInvincible]

I'm with you on this. Everytime I hear he's six-foot I think... "Wha?"

I third that. It's the stumpy legs and angelic face.

[geysir]

He's not even 6ft tall.
He's just another 6ft tall wannabie.
From where I stand, 6ft is a bit on the small size, not a midget but could have done better.

[tricky_colour]

He's not even 6ft tall.
He's just another 6ft tall wannabie.
From where I stand, 6ft is a bit on the small size, not a midget but could have done better.

Well I guess 6 foot is not tall these days, I was just looking at the height of goal keeper of the past out of interest, Jennings,
Shilton Clemence Zoff all just 6 foot but I expect they were considered pretty tall at the time. Even Given is only 6'1 but Westwood is 6'2 Forde 6'3.
All Man U keepers are 6'3 minimum

[SkStu]

Well I guess 6 foot is not tall these days, I was just looking at the height of goal keeper of the past out of interest, Jennings,
Shilton Clemence Zoff all just 6 foot but I expect they were considered pretty tall at the time. Even Given is only 6'1 but Westwood is 6'2 Forde 6'3.
All Man U keepers are 6'3 minimum

Wow - cant believe that Forde is a) 6'3" and b) taller than Westwood.

Instead of thinking hes a stocky little f*cker, I would now say he is built like a brick sh!t house.




Shane Long's headed goal for WBA against Chelsea earlier:
...
Three Chelsea defenders somehow left flat-footed, but he did well to barge his way in and connect.

His "hang time" is phenomenol. You can really appreciate it from that third angle.

[Charlie Darwin]

You didn't think Forde was tall? I know he's well-built but I always thought he looked tall too. Granted, Westwood is more a beanpole. Randolph is taller and wider than either.

[geysir]

Randolph isn't that tall. He's a minnow in the land of tall people.

[Charlie Darwin]

I appear to have done myself a mischief. Randolph is shorter than either. I will now flagellate myself in accordance with foot.ie custom.

[geysir]

Well you began the flagellation thing, now ..... eat whip and chains.

[paul_oshea]

He judged it perfectly. Imagine if we had a player with the aerial ability of Long and the instinct of Robbie Keane.

[tricky_colour]

Wow - cant believe that Forde is a) 6'3" and b) taller than Westwood.

Instead of thinking hes a stocky little f*cker, I would now say he is built like a brick sh!t house.


His "hang time" is phenomenol. You can really appreciate it from that third angle.

Well he has pace so he obviously has power in his legs but I think the key thing is the arms,
need to get the center of gravity as high as you can on take off, hence arms up then get the center of
gravity down as low as possible at the peak of the jump, and that means keeping the feet and arms
as low as possible. And if you look you see he has his toes and fingers as low as possible, almost looks
as if he is using his feet as flippers. Also he seems to have pretty big heavy arms which helps in moving the
center of gravity from high to low, but great technique.

[tricky_colour]

He judged it perfectly. Imagine if we had a player with the aerial ability of Long and the instinct of Robbie Keane.

We could call him EasyJet.

[gastric]

Long being linked again with Hull according to some of the tabloids.

[Closed Account]

Just scored a cracker v Villa\

G Nev gave him a good build up on MNF about his work rate and heading ability pregame, but this goal was down to a great touch and a nice finish.

Diagonal ball over the top, took it down over his head, beating the defender with his first touch, got his out of his feet with his second and finished to the bottom left corner left footed with his third. The kind of goal he's capable of when his confident is up.
http://i.minus.com/ibsHLlYNoALkzW.gifhttp://i.minus.com/i0ueSDZWYmgt8.gif
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/1-0-shane-long-exquisite-golazo-west-brom-v-aston-villa/#.UpOu1fbjtJs.twitter

[zero]

he has two now (the second a 'delightful finish') within the first 11 minutes.

more of this sort of thing.

[Closed Account]

He's only gone and scored another, and again the type of chance we've seen him missing for Ireland or when his confidence is low.

Anticipated a poor pass at the back, little stepover past the last defender and dinked the ball past Guzan and in off the crossbar. Fair play to him.
http://i.minus.com/ibyBYGKeti7lw4.gif

[ForzaForth]

Holy Sh!t. His second goal was nearly better.

[dr_peepee]

Steve Bruce is snapping.... The Jan transfer to Hull has just gone up 1.5m!!!

[paul_oshea]

27 in Jan.if he is going to reach that level he needs to move in January and to a top 6 club.

[The Fly]

27 in Jan.if he is going to reach that level he needs to move in January and to a top 6 club.

A top 6 club?

Yeah...:rolleyes:

[ArdeeBhoy]

Silly people on Twitter?https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8pE0gIcAAWOj5.png



http://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1465378_763653126984588_838342527_n.jpg


More twits.
http://balls.ie/football/shane-long-en-ger-land/

[Olé Olé]

That second goal was brilliant. The stepover and the finish were both equally sublime. Hats off to Shane. Third club goal in the last couple of weeks.

[Stuttgart88]

It just shows he can do it but needs to become a 15-20 goal a season striker. He's at a decent club that isn't scavenging for results. I thought Carragher paid him a big compliment in the post match analysis saying he is really tough to play against from a CB's perspective. We've known that ourselves of course.

A bit more of this and a bit more maturity and he can step up to the level he is capable of.

Well done though.

[paul_oshea]

A top 6 club?

Yeah...:rolleyes:

Rolllyeyes what? If he wants to become a top striker thats what he needs to do. I dont think he would get into Chelsea, Citys or ARsenals or Liverpools team, but i believe he could get into Spurs or Everton for example.

He is inconsistent in these performances, he will score the odd goal here and there and few magic touches now and again, along with a couple of very good performances, but he lacks the consistency to be a really top performer. ...:rolleyes: Oh look what I can do Daddy, I can do it too!

[ArdeeBhoy]

Personally, reckon he's as good as he'll get, a bit inconsistent, but the odd very decent performance so exceptional even the English want to call him up...
:rolleyes:

[Stuttgart88]

I think the question is how good he can be for Ireland though. I think there are many strikers whose international records are better than their club records, but in Long's case they're about similar. A good goal every now and then, occasional brilliance but ordinary enough for the most part.

I think a small improvement in club output could lead to a bigger improvement in international output. As Brian Kerr wrote recently, MON needs to tell him he is the main man.

But even if he thinks he's Messi, he still won't ever have that instinctive eye for timing or a gap that Robbie has. Was it Geysir who commented recently about McClean's low cross in Poland? Great cross that nobody attacked. Keane would have, just as he did Sammon's cross against Faroes. Pure instinct.

[nigel-harps1954]

Shane Long has replied to those tweets. It's a cracker.

[Professor K]

Absolutely brilliant goals, couldn't even say which I liked more. Pity the Euro qualifiers are a year away, hopefully his confidence is up and he gets a regular place in the Ireland team by then.

[Stuttgart88]

Shane Long has replied to those tweets. It's a cracker.I can't read twitter at work. Any chance of a summary of both the originals and the response?

[DeLorean]

Absolutely brilliant goals, couldn't even say which I liked more

The first one was certainly a better goal, technically.

Steve Clarke said it was out of this world... a bit like Bergkamp's against Argentina that time, the initial touch at least. I got the feeling he was kind of reluctant to praise him too much though. He mentioned a few times that he's in "a good moment", almost to imply that he's hit and miss. I suppose he's probably got a point if this is what he was getting at. Jamie Carragher then compared his second goal to Kenny Dalglish. Gary Neville was laughing sayings he's gonna love watching this after getting home.

[DannyInvincible]

I can't read twitter at work. Any chance of a summary of both the originals and the response?

Upon witnessing Long's goals against Villa, numerous ill-informed users questioned why he'd never received an England call-up. Long responded (https://twitter.com/Shanelong009/status/405139285336395776) with the following:


And will be giving Roy a call tomorrow #rememberwembley

[nigel-harps1954]

I can't read twitter at work. Any chance of a summary of both the originals and the response?

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1456513_663398720348218_937062480_n.jpg

[DeLorean]

"When Shane's on top form he's a force to be reckoned with" - Steve Clarke (http://thescore.thejournal.ie/shane-long-steve-clarke-west-brom-aston-villa-1192424-Nov2013/)

[paul_oshea]

The first one was certainly a better goal, technically.

Steve Clarke said it was out of this world... a bit like Bergkamp's against Argentina that time, the initial touch at least. I got the feeling he was kind of reluctant to praise him too much though. He mentioned a few times that he's in "a good moment", almost to imply that he's hit and miss. I suppose he's probably got a point if this is what he was getting at. Jamie Carragher then compared his second goal to Kenny Dalglish. Gary Neville was laughing sayings he's gonna love watching this after getting home.

Steve Clarke got that from Carragher also. It was carragher who said Longs goal reminded him of the Holland goal against Argentina scored by Bergkamp.

[The Fly]

Rolllyeyes what? If he wants to become a top striker thats what he needs to do. I dont think he would get into Chelsea, Citys or ARsenals or Liverpools team, but i believe he could get into Spurs or Everton for example.


I'm sure Shane wants to become a top striker and play for a top club, but unfortunately he doesn't have the skill set. You left Manchester United off the list.

[tricky_colour]

"When Shane's on top form he's a force to be reckoned with" - Steve Clarke (http://thescore.thejournal.ie/shane-long-steve-clarke-west-brom-aston-villa-1192424-Nov2013/)


Clarke added: “I’ve said all along Shane would have a big part to play for us this season and he’s proving that on the pitch – and that’s all he can do

Has he? I though he said, "Let's sell Shane to Hull", but the deal fell through!!

Anyhow nice to see Shane playing so well, right at the moment he is second to none in the Premiership, remains to be seen if he can continue
his good form but he is only 26.

[ArdeeBhoy]

I can't read twitter at work. Any chance of a summary of both the originals and the response?

Jaysus, only put the originals up 12 hrs before so...

Good response by Long mind.
:)

[paul_oshea]

I'm sure Shane wants to become a top striker and play for a top club, but unfortunately he doesn't have the skill set. You left Manchester United off the list.

Current top 6 then ; ) I never said they would be top 6. :D Could have said Soton too then.

He showed 2 nights ago, and has in the past glimpses that he has the ability, but lacks consistency. That was my point.

[tricky_colour]

I suppose you could say Long on ability Short on consistency especially as Glenn Whelan, just 5'11 completed all his 68 passes in his last match.

[Charlie Darwin]

The first one was certainly a better goal, technically.

Steve Clarke said it was out of this world... a bit like Bergkamp's against Argentina that time, the initial touch at least. I got the feeling he was kind of reluctant to praise him too much though. He mentioned a few times that he's in "a good moment", almost to imply that he's hit and miss. I suppose he's probably got a point if this is what he was getting at. Jamie Carragher then compared his second goal to Kenny Dalglish. Gary Neville was laughing sayings he's gonna love watching this after getting home.
"In a good moment" is one of those bizarre clichés that has crept into football in the last few years with the preponderance of non-English native speaking managers. Presumably Clarke has picked it up from working under guys like Ranieri and Mourinho.

[paul_oshea]

I'm thinking only mourinho there.perhaps its how its constructed in Portuguese or Spanish to saying some like in good form.....

[Charlie Darwin]

Ancelotti was the one I really noticed it with but Clarke quit before he took over. A lot of the non-native English-speaking managers say it now and Clarke has worked with a few of them. I've always guessed it was a straight translation from Italian or Spanish.

[geysir]

A good football cliche is universal.

[DeLorean]

Steve Clarke got that from Carragher also. It was carragher who said Longs goal reminded him of the Holland goal against Argentina scored by Bergkamp.

Yeah I got a bit mixed up. It was actually Carragher that compared it to Bergkamp, I picked that up wrong. It was actually the presenter that said he's going to love watching this after getting home as well, not Neville. Neville was laughing and said something like "Bergkamp?? Dalglish?? next they're going to put a statue of him outside the ground!"