Shane Long [Archive] - Page 19

Kingdom

04/12/2012, 7:03 AM

Long would suit Liverpool down to a tee. Rodgers is banning the punt, and it's working to a point, as they are playing some excellent football, but they miss a poacher - about the only thing Suarez isn't - and if they were to get Long, they'd have a strong, very quick, poacher up top, supported by Suarez and one of Sterling/Gerrard/Suso. Shane is good enough to play top right as well, if they go with Borini or horse up front as the 1.

Could be a massive move for both him and Liverpool.

geysir

04/12/2012, 9:14 AM

I think it would be mad for a club in Liverpool's current situation to pay a hefty fee for a striker with a dodgy leg.
But clubs like Liverpool do have a history of madness.

BonnieShels

04/12/2012, 4:08 PM

May I mark exhibit one; a Mr Alberto Aquilani...

Carrigaline

04/12/2012, 4:32 PM

gastric

04/12/2012, 8:53 PM

I hope Long doesn't move to Liverpool as I feel Irish players have not fared well when they have been at bigger clubs. Gibson, Dunne, Given, Keane and Duff would probably have mixed feelings about their time at these clubs. In terms of Liverpool, their attack is built around Suarez and if it didn't work out, Long could find himself on the bench or facing another transfer like Carroll. I mentioned instability before at Liverpool, and what I meant by that was once things start to go wrong, the manager gets the chop. Then the new manager tries a new approach and on it goes.

For me, Long is playing well at WBA and is getting regular gametime, which in turn is good for Ireland,so I will just agree to disagree with some of you!

Charlie Darwin

04/12/2012, 10:14 PM

Why would Duff have mixed feelings about his time at Chelsea? Dunne left City before they could be considered a big club.

Bungle

04/12/2012, 10:48 PM

I disagree with you gastric. I feel it is essential that our players are playing at top clubs like Liverpool or United. For example, I would like to see over the next 12 months, Jamie McCarthy getting a move to one of the top 6 or 7 premiership clubs, in order to further his development. Otherwise, he will just stay a good decent premiership player, rather than get to a level where he could become top class (he has the potential to be really top class I would feel). I do partly agree that Liverpool is in the early stages of Rodgers' tenure and that the club is a massive work in progress, but I think that the Liverpool board will give him time, barring a disastrous run of results. From having lived in Liverpool for a number of years, Long is very highly rated by pretty much all my old Kopite and Evertonian mates. Those same mates were very sceptical about the signings of Carroll and Downing. I think that Long would be a great addition to Liverpool, although I would feel that they need an out and out goalscorer like a Huntelaar most of all.

SkStu

05/12/2012, 12:57 AM

Liverpool aren't a top club anymore. A big club, sure - a top club, no.

I'd love to see him at a true top side, he'd be a star.

gastric

05/12/2012, 1:08 AM

Why would Duff have mixed feelings about his time at Chelsea? Dunne left City before they could be considered a big club.

Duff never got the amount of game time at Chelsea that he deserved, to me it was as much about stopping him going somewhere else as seeing the potential in him. Secondly, City were beginning to buy whoever they liked when they decided to get rid of the man who had lead them so admirably over the previous four years. No loyalty there!

Charlie Darwin

05/12/2012, 1:20 AM

Duff was fairly vital to Mourinho's title wins and Champions League runs. If anything, he wanted to get away because the pressurised environment didn't suit him, but he never let himself down.

gastric

05/12/2012, 6:30 AM

Duff was fairly vital to Mourinho's title wins and Champions League runs. If anything, he wanted to get away because the pressurised environment didn't suit him, but he never let himself down.

I wasn't being disparaging about Duff's time at Chelsea, however, he did not get the game time he deserved particularly when Robben joined. As regards the 'pressurised environment' comment you made, Duff left as he was finding it hard to get a regular game, a situation not helped by the amount of injuries he seemed to pick up at that time.

gastric

05/12/2012, 7:37 AM

Carragaline may have got it exactly right according to this report!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4681165/Steve-Clarke-Shane-Long-isnt-off-to-Liverpool-hes-not-for-sale.html

geysir

05/12/2012, 7:41 AM

Liverpool aren't a top club anymore. A big club, sure - a top club, no.

I'd love to see him at a true top side, he'd be a star.
I'd say they are undoubtably a big club, but with an average side (which includes the brilliant Suarez).

DannyInvincible

05/12/2012, 8:12 AM

I hope Long doesn't move to Liverpool as I feel Irish players have not fared well when they have been at bigger clubs. Gibson, Dunne, Given, Keane and Duff would probably have mixed feelings about their time at these clubs.

Duff played some great football at Chelsea. And what about the likes of O'Shea, (Roy) Keane, Irwin or Finnan?

Bungle

05/12/2012, 11:13 AM

Liverpool aren't a top club anymore. A big club, sure - a top club, no.

I'd love to see him at a true top side, he'd be a star.

It depends how you view what constitutes a top club. Obviously, having a top class team would be a major factor, but for me history and pedigree go a long way.

Liverpool and the two Milans have had some of the greatest players and club teams of all time. They are among the best supported clubs in the world - maybe less so the two Milan teams outside Europe in this regard. If you go to Shanghai or Bratislava, Montivideo or Oslo, Liverpool are a huge club with a fanbase that far far exceeds Man City, Chelsea, Anzhi or PSG. You don't build that overnight.

Charlie Darwin

05/12/2012, 11:50 AM

I wasn't being disparaging about Duff's time at Chelsea, however, he did not get the game time he deserved particularly when Robben joined. As regards the 'pressurised environment' comment you made, Duff left as he was finding it hard to get a regular game, a situation not helped by the amount of injuries he seemed to pick up at that time.
It definitely wasn't due to lack of games - he played more often at Chelsea than he has at any other club, including Blackeye Rovers. As I remember it his injury problems only became chronic once he joined Newcastle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_Duff#Club_2

DeLorean

05/12/2012, 11:59 AM

I think that the Liverpool board will give him time, barring a disastrous run of results.

Say, like 4 wins from their first 15 league games? And elimination from two out of two cup competitions before Christmas (pending!)

It depends how you view what constitutes a top club. Obviously, having a top class team would be a major factor, but for me history and pedigree go a long way.

In the context of Shane Long's development as a player, the former is what matters.

squareball

05/12/2012, 12:19 PM

I hope Long doesn't move to Liverpool as I feel Irish players have not fared well when they have been at bigger clubs. Gibson, Dunne, Given, Keane and Duff would probably have mixed feelings about their time at these clubs.

Dunne left before City became they a top club but was the fans player of the year he left if I'm not mistaken. Given moved about 5 years too late and was on the decline by the time he moved. Duff had a very good record at Chelsea he and Robben were excellent in the 2004/2005 season. Gibson probably stayed at United for too long but looks like a good player in a decent Everton side. Keane though had a bad time at Liverpool and his last spell at Tottenham but still managed to score a few goals.

I think Long has all the attributes to do well at most clubs and his record over the last two seasons against the top teams speaks for itself.

gastric

05/12/2012, 8:30 PM

It definitely wasn't due to lack of games - he played more often at Chelsea than he has at any other club, including Blackeye Rovers. As I remember it his injury problems only became chronic once he joined Newcastle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_Duff#Club_2

Statistics, statistics, statistics! Charlie, how many of these games were starts as distinct from substitute appearances? Duff was injured quite a bit in 2006 and his form had begun to dip according to posters on his thread on here. It was quite a surprise when he joined Newcastle, in fact one poster referred to them as a basket case. Maybe it's time to agree to disagree on this subject?

SkStu

06/12/2012, 1:34 AM

It depends how you view what constitutes a top club. Obviously, having a top class team would be a major factor, but for me history and pedigree go a long way.

Liverpool and the two Milans have had some of the greatest players and club teams of all time. They are among the best supported clubs in the world - maybe less so the two Milan teams outside Europe in this regard. If you go to Shanghai or Bratislava, Montivideo or Oslo, Liverpool are a huge club with a fanbase that far far exceeds Man City, Chelsea, Anzhi or PSG. You don't build that overnight.

All that comes under the auspices of being a big club in my opinion. Being a top club is very different in my opinion and based on recent form. Manchester United, Citeh and Chelsea are the top clubs in England right now. Reliance solely on history and pedigree means a team is currently irrelevant and living on its past.

elroy

07/12/2012, 7:52 PM

I guarantee if Long or McCarthy does up end moving to Liverpool, our attendances at home matches will automatically increase.

DannyInvincible

04/01/2013, 1:12 PM

Apparently, Long was linked with a move to Newcastle in FM104's sports news today.

Pardew has been interested in Long before: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3681683/Newcastle-in-7million-bid-for-Reading-striker-Shane-Long.html

culloty82

04/01/2013, 1:16 PM

Lazio also reportedly interested, according to the Star and Mail - surely Champions League football and a potential scudetto would trump the freefall at St James's?

Bungle

04/01/2013, 2:15 PM

Lazio also reportedly interested, according to the Star and Mail - surely Champions League football and a potential scudetto would trump the freefall at St James's?

I bet Trap would love him playing there. Screw going to Carrow Road or Stoke to watch Irish players live in action, when you can head to the Stadio Olympico!!

IsMiseSean

04/01/2013, 2:31 PM

I really hate Lazio...

AlaskaFox

05/01/2013, 10:49 AM

I really hate Lazio...

I did Nazi a move to Lazio coming for Shane.

Charlie Darwin

05/01/2013, 3:42 PM

Lazio scouts look out, Long puts West Brom 1-0 up at QPR in the FA Cup.

From BBC: "Shane Long breaks the deadlock at Loftus Road to put West Brom 1-0 up against QPR. George Thorne broke into the box and when his shot was blocked, Long was on hand to stroke the ball home from 12 yards."

Charlie Darwin

12/01/2013, 2:04 PM

Not even in the squad today to face his old club Reading. I haven't heard anything about an injury and he was in all the papers yesterday saying he was dying to play.

geysir

12/01/2013, 3:02 PM

Injury news about Shane Long is considered classified information at West Brom.

Charlie Darwin

12/01/2013, 3:04 PM

I'm sure Trap will fill us in now that I think about it. Panic over!

Colbert Report

13/01/2013, 12:48 AM

Leg injury according to fantasypremierleague.com

CraftyToePoke

13/01/2013, 4:26 AM

Leg injury according to fantasypremierleague.com

Picked up in training yesterday according to M.O.T.D. Can't help but wonder if a bid has gone in.

EDIT - The Lazio thing is in to 3 to 1 on this : http://www.skybet.co.uk/football/specials/transfer-specials

Grafter

19/01/2013, 4:43 PM

Has been injured ALOT! in West Brom career.... sense of fore-boarding about his longevity at top level...

Charlie Darwin

19/01/2013, 4:51 PM

Has been injured ALOT! in West Brom career.... sense of fore-boarding about his longevity at top level...
Or he's just been injured since early in the season and his manager has insisted on playing him instead of letting the injury heal. And then criticising Long's international manager for letting the cat out of the bag about his revolutionary injury management strategy.

tricky_colour

19/01/2013, 8:33 PM

Well better he is injured than being dropped for being carp I guess.

Hopefully he will be back before Long - if that's possible :)

theworm2345

30/01/2013, 8:09 PM

Goal Long. Throughball puts Lukaku in, rounds the keeper but his shot lacks power. Heitinga somehow mis-controls, the ball goes straight up in the air, and Long heads in to the empty goal from 6 yards out.

Junior

30/01/2013, 10:55 PM

Defensive error alright but great to watch the sharpness and determination of Long to sniff the chance out and beat Heitinga and the other Everton defender to the ball to head home.

Charlie Darwin

31/01/2013, 12:15 AM

Was thinking the same thing - he took a gamble and got his reward. just like he did against Sunderland. Robbie would be proud.

DannyInvincible

11/02/2013, 1:40 PM

'Premier League - Paper Round: European giants target Long': http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-paper-round-european-giants-target-long-075124326.html;_ylt=AqQjngOxfFH88NrEHP9KE1gxg4t4;_ ylu=X3oDMTRxZmIwY203BG1pdANUb3AgU3RvcmllcyBNaXhlZC BMaXN0IEZvb3RiYWxsIFNGBHBrZwMyODg3OWM0ZC0wZTA4LTNi NTUtYmJlZS02ZmNmZDE1MjVlOWMEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQk xpc3RNaXhlZExQQ0FUZW1wBHZlcgNkMzNkYmFiMC03NDJiLTEx ZTItYmRhMy00NGYwYjJiM2Y4NGQ-;_ylg=X3oDMTI2bGxrbmNzBGludGwDZ2IEbGFuZwNlbi1nYgRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANmb290YmFsbHx3b3JsZGN1cHVuZGVyMj AEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3

The Daily Mirror reports that both Serie A side Lazio and Liga powerhouse Sevilla are keen on securing the Irishman�s signature.

West Brom also face a battle to keep Long from clubs closer to home as he has "also attracted attention from Tottenham, Newcastle United and Liverpool."

The paper explains: "Lazio were keen on Long before the transfer window closed last week and are keeping tabs on him along with Sevilla.

"Long will enter the final year of his contract at the end of the season but Albion have an option to extend it for a further 12 months.

"However, they are keen to secure his long-term future and are set to offer him a new four year deal."

paul_oshea

11/02/2013, 2:23 PM

He is 26 going on 27, wants to start delivering on the promise, put the rest behind him. He has 2 good years or so after this year, it seems 30 is too old for a striker these days.

Charlie Darwin

11/02/2013, 2:31 PM

He is 26 going on 27, wants to start delivering on the promise, put the rest behind him. He has 2 good years or so after this year, it seems 30 is too old for a striker these days.
Drogba? Some players peak young, many don't. Long, if he can put his injuries behind him, still has his peak to come. The fact he didn't play an awful lot of football in the early part of his career should stand to him.

Carrigaline

11/02/2013, 3:36 PM

I'd love to know where these transfer rumours come from. Sevilla are stone broke and there's no way they would be able to match what WBA are paying Long, let alone fork over the transfer fee.

SkStu

11/02/2013, 5:08 PM

I think Long has delivered on his promise, Paul. He is a prove Premiership striker and has done well at an international level despite playing most of his international career under a manager that doesnt really appear to like or believe in him.

gastric

28/02/2013, 7:20 AM

Good news on Long who should on present form, be the first choice forward.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/relief-for-trap-ahead-of-crunch-ties-as-long-injury-not-serious-29099883.html

Grafter

10/03/2013, 1:35 AM

I think there's alot of HYPE surrounding Shane Long's input to the Irish team and WBA.... Lets be honest, he has not played over a consistent period for WBA for 18months.... his last truly outstanding game for Ireland in my opinion was against Uruguay in Feb 2011....

To be honest, I think he's been overrated for the most part this season by the Irish press....

Charlie Darwin

10/03/2013, 1:39 AM

In that case he's also been overrated by the English press. He has been very impressive for West Brom, particularly in an isolated role against the best sides, but he has been struggling massively with niggling injuries.

SkStu

06/04/2013, 3:42 PM

WBA v Arsenal the game here this morning. Long won the penalty very, very well. Superb touch that left that pr!ck Mertesacker for dead and caused him to scythe Shane down from behind and get the red card. Very likely Long would have scored had he not been fouled. Has worked tirelessly and has been left isolated for long spells. No coincidence that Lukakus introduction has allowed more success for Longs industry.