So farewell then...

[Pauro 76]

I'm speechless. Maybe there should be a minute's noise at the start of the next French game in his honour.

Heard that Michael Jackson ripped off his moonwalk from this guy! :eek:

[razor]

Cllr Bernie Murphy, one of Corks true characters.
R.I.P. (http://www.irishexaminer.com/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=43373-qqqx=1.asp)

[OwlsFan]

Mick Holden, stalwart of the Dublin team of the 80s. He was only 52.

Lois Maxwell. Miss Moneypenny in the early James Bond films.

Bruce Hay, Scottish and Lions rugby player.

[OwlsFan]

Tony Ryan - we all owe him a debt for cheap air travel.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1003/ryant.html

[OwlsFan]

Deborah Kerr, the actress at the age of 86.

http://www.classicmovies.org/articles/aa093001a.htm

[Magicme]

Meant to post this a few days ago when I first heard but forgot.

RIP Lucky Dube. Was gutted coz for various reasons missed him in Monaghan last time he was here and now am really furious that wont get a chance to see him live.

Shot in a car jacking in his native South Africa.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Brendan McWilliams -- Meterologist , newspaper columnist and one of the first weathermen on the Telly. His articles in the Irish Times over the last 20 years brought Science to the masses in an acceptable and digestible manner.

[jebus]

Meant to post this a few days ago when I first heard but forgot.

RIP Lucky Dube. Was gutted coz for various reasons missed him in Monaghan last time he was here and now am really furious that wont get a chance to see him live.

Shot in a car jacking in his native South Africa.

I was lucky enough to catch him live (no pun intended) and have to say you missed out, the guy was fantastic. Shame South Africa is such a ****hole and he happened to be from there

[OwlsFan]

Anthony Ward Clare (24 December 1942 – 28 October 2007), the Irish psychiatrist well-known in the UK and Ireland as a presenter of programmes about psychiatry on BBC TV and Radio.

[Réiteoir]

Singer, actor Robert Goulet dies at 73

Robert Goulet, the Canadian-raised singer known for his baritone voice and frequent TV appearances, has died, a spokesman for the singer said. He was 73.


He had been awaiting a lung transplant in a Los Angeles hospital after becoming ill on Oct. 13 with a form of pulmonary fibrosis while returning from a concert appearance in Syracuse, N.Y.
His crooner image and penchant for cheesy TV appearances have made him the subject of parodies, including one on The Simpsons, in which he is booked into Bart’s casino (in the tree house) and sings Jingle Bells (Batman Smells).

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2007/10/30/goulet-death.html

[CollegeTillIDie]

Wasn't he in one of the Naked Gun movies or was it Airplane?

[Réiteoir]

he was in Naked Gun

[Lim till i die]

The Simpsons, in which he is booked into Bart’s casino (in the tree house) and sings Jingle Bells (Batman Smells).



"I should call my manager"

"Your manager says for you to SHUT UP!"

"Vera said that??"

:D

[jebus]

Will Ferrell playing Robert Goulet (A Tribute:D)

p2zRGQX2QLo

Especially love the bit in the end

[pineapple stu]

Yer man who flew the plane that bombed Hiroshima died today, aged 92. No regrets, but doesn't want a grave as he fears it'll be targeted.

[CollegeTillIDie]

They could bury him in Chernobyl :D

Ray Gravell former Welsh Rugby International and broadcaster.....

[OwlsFan]

Yer man who flew the plane that bombed Hiroshima died today, aged 92. No regrets, but doesn't want a grave as he fears it'll be targeted.

Paul Tibbets

http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_tibbets.html


In the long run it saved millions of lives on both sides.

[jebus]

Paul Tibbets

http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_tibbets.html


In the long run it saved millions of lives on both sides.

No fault on his side, he was just carrying out orders, but I still can't condone what they did to those cities.

[OwlsFan]

No fault on his side, he was just carrying out orders, but I still can't condone what they did to those cities.


If the Allies had to invade Japan, every city would have been destroyed and many more millions of citizens and soldiers would have been killed. Lesser of two evils I am afraid.

[jebus]

If the Allies had to invade Japan, every city would have been destroyed and many more millions of citizens and soldiers would have been killed. Lesser of two evils I am afraid.

I disagree, they could have first shown the Japanese a test of the atom bombs power by dropping it, and destroying, one of Japan's uninhabited islands, and warning them that they will do likewise to Tokyo. If the Japanese still refused to surrender after seeing what would happen then the blame would be entirely with the Japanese.

Not to mention that I couldn't honestly ever call melting people the lesser of any evil

[osarusan]

If the Allies had to invade Japan, every city would have been destroyed and many more millions of citizens and soldiers would have been killed.

This is true. But the atom bomb being used twice on civilians was not the only other option available. Jebus has pointed one out.

[OwlsFan]

I disagree, they could have first shown the Japanese a test of the atom bombs power by dropping it, and destroying, one of Japan's uninhabited islands, and warning them that they will do likewise to Tokyo. If the Japanese still refused to surrender after seeing what would happen then the blame would be entirely with the Japanese.

Not to mention that I couldn't honestly ever call melting people the lesser of any evil

Firstly they only had two bombs and secondly but for the Emperor's intervention when he saw the results of the atomic bombs, they would have fought on. The Emperor or any Japanese General wouldn't have accepted an invitation to watch a trial run of a bomb. This sort of thing is fantasy for anyone who studied the Japanese psyche in WW2.

Secondly, "melting" a 100 thousand people or so is the lesser evil compared to the deaths of millions and the total destruction of the Japanese mainland and that's what it would have come down to.

Thirdly, if an atomic bomb had never been dropped who would have believed the effect of them and the Cold War might just have escalated to the Very Hot War but for the deterrent effect of having seen what the bombs did.

[jebus]

Firstly they only had two bombs and secondly but for the Emperor's intervention when he saw the results of the atomic bombs, they would have fought on. The Emperor or any Japanese General wouldn't have accepted an invitation to watch a trial run of a bomb. This sort of thing is fantasy for anyone who studied the Japanese psyche in WW2.

It wasn't just the Japanese pysche of WW2, but thats besides the point. Again if the Emperor or any of the generals refused to believe that America had this power, then once again there could be no blame attached to America for doing what they did. The fact of the matter is that they wiped out two cities (certainly one of them didn't have to go) without giving Japan any warning of what they could do. (I know America has said that they didn't realise that the cities would be wiped out like that, but I think thats a lie)


Secondly, "melting" a 100 thousand people or so is the lesser evil compared to the deaths of millions and the total destruction of the Japanese mainland and that's what it would have come down to.

Thats speculative. For all we know the Japs would have held them on the coastline until such a time as a treaty could be signed. I know people say that the Japanese would never have surrendered, but needless deaths in a war can change people's minds, if the people started speaking out about it the Emperor might have taken action. We just don't know what would have happened


Thirdly, if an atomic bomb had never been dropped who would have believed the effect of them and the Cold War might just have escalated to the Very Hot War but for the deterrent effect of having seen what the bombs did.

Again that's speculative. I could also say that had the world not known how powerful the bomb was then the Cold War wouldn't have been as intense, as the USSR wouldn't have rushed as much as they did to get their own nuclear warheads, their might not have been a Cuban Missle Crisis, JFK might not have been shot, and the rest of the world still wouldn't be living in fear of countries like North Korea or Iran getting the bomb

[CollegeTillIDie]

.... and if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle.

[jebus]

The Fabulous Moolah.

Longest reigning female wrestling champion of all time, something like 20-odd years

[pineapple stu]

Meanwhile, in an actual sport, Nils Liedholm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Liedholm), scorer of the opening goal in the 1958 World Cup Final - the game which really shot Pele to fame - and later manager of, among others, the Roma team undone by Bruce Grobbelaar's spaghetti legs.

[Lim till i die]

This sort of thing is fantasy for anyone who studied the Japanese psyche in WW2.

The Japanese made offers of surrender to America

But they wanted to play with their new bomb

[onceahoop]

It wasn't just the Japanese pysche of WW2, but thats besides the point. Again if the Emperor or any of the generals refused to believe that America had this power, then once again there could be no blame attached to America for doing what they did. The fact of the matter is that they wiped out two cities (certainly one of them didn't have to go) without giving Japan any warning of what they could do. (I know America has said that they didn't realise that the cities would be wiped out like that, but I think thats a lie)



Thats speculative. For all we know the Japs would have held them on the coastline until such a time as a treaty could be signed. I know people say that the Japanese would never have surrendered, but needless deaths in a war can change people's minds, if the people started speaking out about it the Emperor might have taken action. We just don't know what would have happened



Again that's speculative. I could also say that had the world not known how powerful the bomb was then the Cold War wouldn't have been as intense, as the USSR wouldn't have rushed as much as they did to get their own nuclear warheads, their might not have been a Cuban Missle Crisis, JFK might not have been shot, and the rest of the world still wouldn't be living in fear of countries like North Korea or Iran getting the bomb

Max Hastings has a book coming out dealing with the 2nd World War in the Pacific. It deals with a lot of these points. He was on Pat Kenny yesterday morning. Sounds interesting for those who like history.

[Pauro 76]

Farewell to Nana Moon off EastEnders. She died yesterday.

[stann]

Literary nut-job (and giant in fairness) Norman Mailer died today. (http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,2208911,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront)

[jebus]

Literary nut-job (and giant in fairness) Norman Mailer died today. (http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,2208911,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront)

balls :(

[paudie]

Literary nut-job (and giant in fairness) Norman Mailer died today. (http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,2208911,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront)

Was memorable in "When we were Kings" documentary, about the Ali-Foreman fight in Zaire.

[OwlsFan]

Ian Smith, former leader of what was then called Rhodesia under white rule and who fought a war against African nationalists costing upwards of 30,000 lives.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Said the country would go to the dogs under majority rule... and Mugabe went and proved the old reprobate correct :(

[OwlsFan]

The British said that about Ireland as well and they were right for about 70 years ;)

[strangeirish]

Dr. J. Robert Cade. Who? you say. Inventor of Gatorade sports drink. Story. (http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-obit-cade&prov=ap&type=lgns)
History of Gatorade. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatorade)

Cool Gatorade ad. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpfzBMj8T58)

[OwlsFan]

Never drank the stuff. Was it like Lucozade?

[strangeirish]

Never drank the stuff. Was it like Lucozade?
No, it's just a non carbonated sports drink, in different flavors. It's excellent for re-hydration. Actually, it helps with hangovers too.

[paul_oshea]

Kevin dubrow.

RIP.

[OwlsFan]

No, it's just a non carbonated sports drink, in different flavors. It's excellent for re-hydration. Actually, it helps with hangovers too.

Alka-Seltzer before you go to bed is the best hangover preventative.

[strangeirish]

Evel Knievel (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obit_knievel)
Dead at 69. He finally bit the dust. Always thought he was a weirdo, but having said that, provided to great entertainment over the years.

[inexile]

christy hennessy passed away this morning

[Block G Raptor]

christy hennessy passed away this morning

Suppose that makes you the messenger boy so, inexile

[DIFChick]

Ike Turner passed away on Tuesday. Usually don't speak ill of the dead but Ike wasn't a very nice man. Bad Ike!

[Risteard]

Fella in my class took IKE as his nick-name as he idolised Ike Turner.:eek:

[Sligo Hornet]

Fella in my class took IKE as his nick-name as he idolised Ike Turner.:eek:

Sure he wasn't just a disciple of Mr.Turquoise, David?

[inexile]

Suppose that makes you the messenger boy so, inexile


very sharp block!!

[Block G Raptor]

very sharp block!!

Worthy of my first POTM nomination perhaps?

[GavinZac]

Worthy of my first POTM nomination perhaps?

You've talked your way out of it :p

[strangeirish]

Joe Dolan (http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1226/dolanj.html)
R.I.P.