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GUFCghost
24/09/2021, 1:05 PM
The entire interview felt weirdly aggressive. I found JW's accusation that McBennet has no love for the league to be so stupidly unprofessional, while at the same time McBennet seemed to be on the defensive from the word go.
Pats 19's and Crevena Zvezda Wednesday night in Richmond, hopefully our young lads can take a positive result to Serbia for the 2nd leg.
D24Saint
24/09/2021, 1:34 PM
Pats 19's and Crevena Zvezda Wednesday night in Richmond, hopefully our young lads can take a positive result to Serbia for the 2nd leg.
Tickets for the Patrons stand only due to UEFA red tape.
Tickets for the Patrons stand only due to UEFA red tape.
Got the email yesterday, its a pity to be honest.
pineapple stu
28/09/2021, 7:37 PM
Real Madrid 0-1 Sheriff Tiraspol at half time in the Champions League.
I... There are no words for that
placid casual
28/09/2021, 7:53 PM
Money =success
joey B
28/09/2021, 9:08 PM
Finished 2-1 Sheriff,mad result…
pineapple stu
28/09/2021, 9:14 PM
The stats on livescore are pretty much what you'd expect - 30 shots to 4, 67% possession for Real, 13 corners to 0, 41 crosses to 4. Looks like a freak result, but surely one of the greatest European upsets nonetheless. Well done to the drug smuggling money launderers!
Nesta99
29/09/2021, 12:12 AM
Money =success
Lay off PC!!;)
placid casual
29/09/2021, 7:50 AM
Well done to the drug smuggling money launderers!
It's truly a victory for the little guy!
Demesne Lad
29/09/2021, 10:50 AM
The 'little guy' started with just 2 of the eleven who started in their home defeat (on pens) to Dundalk a year ago. None of the other 9 were on the bench at the Bernabeu. Meanwhile, at Oriel Park v Bohs, De Town started with 6 of the eleven who had started in Moldova. (Rogers retired, Gartland injured, Gannon, Hoare and Shields departed).
The impressive thing about Sheriff T's performances is the building in a year - almost from scratch - of a team who can compete so well in the CL group stage.
pineapple stu
29/09/2021, 11:55 AM
I think Sheriff rebuild like that quite regularly. Possibly this year they got a bit lucky with a few better players than usual.
Still a hell of an achievement though, and the UEFA bigwigs are probably fuming, which is good, even if Sheriff do seem a very unlikeable club under the bonnet.
The entire Moldovan league is in line for a serious windfall out of it too from the Solidarity Payments (which I think increase as points are gained in the CL groups?)
joey B
29/09/2021, 12:01 PM
Not sure if this has been posted before but a good thread on Sheriff here ….
https://mobile.twitter.com/SlavaMalamud/status/1430939451069509639
Nesta99
29/09/2021, 1:57 PM
What are the chances that Bill will use Sherriff as a justification of his ad hoc transfer policy.
D24Saint
29/09/2021, 7:04 PM
Pats 0-1 Red Star Belgrade , early goal from red star but Pats getting into the match now.
kksaints
29/09/2021, 7:38 PM
2-0 to Red Star at halftime. Goal right at the end of the 1st half for Red Star was cruel enough. Bad refereeing isn't the preserve of our league judging by this ref's performance.
D24Saint
29/09/2021, 9:05 PM
A typical Irish European performance we gave away sloppy goals and missed some excellent chances. I’m delighted for the lads the they have a goal to travel with. The lad that scored for them has a few first team appearances under his belt and looks decent. The ref lost control of the game at times and could have got someone broke up.
pateen
29/09/2021, 10:49 PM
Well fair play, pulled one back too.
Many there D24?
Do away goals count in this?
D24Saint
29/09/2021, 10:52 PM
Well fair play, pulled one back too.
Many there D24?
Do away goals count in this?
A good guesstimate would be 800. I’m not sure on away goals but since they are obsolete in uefa senior competitions I’d say their youth ones follow suit. Hopefully we can turn the tie around in the second leg.
D24Saint
29/09/2021, 10:53 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/0929/1249795-late-goal-gives-pats-hope-against-classy-red-star/
pineapple stu
30/09/2021, 6:34 AM
Interesting that that consolation means still only Cork - at home to Roma - have lost a game by more than one goal in this. That's in 11 games between Cork (the only club to win a tie), UCD (the only other club to win a match), Bohs (the only club to qualify twice) and Pat's
It's a decent record when you consider the sides we've been drawn against. UCD keeping Haaland scoreless probably the most impressive feat
2 Year Contract
30/09/2021, 8:14 AM
Interesting that that consolation means still only Cork - at home to Roma - have lost a game by more than one goal in this. That's in 11 games between Cork (the only club to win a tie), UCD (the only other club to win a match), Bohs (the only club to qualify twice) and Pat's
It's a decent record when you consider the sides we've been drawn against. UCD keeping Haaland scoreless probably the most impressive feat
Wow! Impressive that, never knew UCD had played in it at all. I thought Cork were the first LOI side to play in it beating HJK Helsinki then losing to Roma, after that I was only aware of Bohs losing to PAOK and Waterford were due to play Hammarby last year before the competition was cancelled due to covid. UCD presumably faced Molde then, who did Bohs play in their other tie?
On last night's game, really good performance from the young pats team who were getting kicked up and down the pitch by the massively tall and very physical Red Star team (the Icelandic ref would be right at home in the LOI it seems). Their alleged 17 year old number 11 up front has got to have 2 kids and a mortgage by the way! A goal in it going into the second leg is a decent result considering pats were without 3 of their best players in Darragh Burns and James Abankwah who were left out of the squad and Ben McCormack who only played the second half (and scored) all due to being needed for the first team game in Drogheda tomorrow night. A great problem to have for the 19s though that they’re producing so many important players for the first team. I thought Kian Corbally in centre midfield and Tommy Lonergan were excellent up front as well as the Curtis brothers Sam and Ben at centre back.
pineapple stu
30/09/2021, 8:40 AM
Yeah, Cork were the first side (2016). We played in 2017. Bohs also played Midtylland of Denmark; lost 2-1 in both games but I think it was two late goals in Dalymount that won it for the Danes in the end.
Haaland only actually played 30 minutes against us in the second leg in Molde, and then scored in the penalty shoot-out (finished 3-3 on aggregate), but he played nonetheless. LoI sides do compete very well in it though, and yet we clearly fall away from the respective clubs at senior level.
Bucket
30/09/2021, 1:01 PM
Any idea what kind of prize money is on offer for this? I can understand why SOD made the decision, but it's a pity those first team players had to miss out
pineapple stu
30/09/2021, 1:07 PM
None afaik - just away expenses.
2 Year Contract
30/09/2021, 4:29 PM
I’d imagine had there been any reasonable prize money up for grabs in the Youth League he may have let them play but with the senior team in a good position to get a European place from the last 8 games of the season it has to take precedence given the money that goes with it
Bucket
30/09/2021, 4:59 PM
I fully appreciate that. The whole point of youth football is to prepare for senior football, so if they're good enough already, there's no point dropping back down. For the lads that haven't made the step up to the first team yet, the experience of a two-leg tie, going away to what will probably be a more hostile environment than they've played in before will be invaluable.
2 Year Contract
20/10/2021, 5:11 PM
Pats beaten 2-0 in Belgrade in the second leg. It was always going to be a tough ask up against a side that have got results against Bayern/Liverpool and similar standard sides in the Uefa Youth League in recent years. Great experience for the lads though and 2-1 and 2-0 losses are far from a disgrace considering we’re apparently the lowest ranked league in the competition this year. Looking on LiveScore yesterday there was some absolute tonkings in the competition last night, like Midjtylland 10-1 Rosenberg (14-3 agg) and AZ Alkmaar 7-0 Qabala (11-0 agg).
Was always going to be a tough task for Pats. As you say, seems to have been a respectable enough showing from the lads. We also have three players in the first team squad who would otherwise have been in that squad ( I know Ben McCormack is injured anyway) so that’s something else to bear in mind. No doubt James Abankwah and Darragh Burns would have lifted the level of the team that extra bit.
ontheotherhand
25/11/2021, 5:18 PM
Youve left hat very broad and open to personal interpretation so I told ye so ;) If they dont pick up points ye can buy me 2!
Looks like it's just the one pint I owe you Nesta. Flora are doing fine in their ECL group and have just beaten Partizan.
Nesta99
25/11/2021, 5:27 PM
Pffff Beating Partisan is no big deal, sure werent they beaten a while back by some unknown part time pub team, about 2011 or so!
sparky12345678
25/02/2022, 12:03 PM
just noticing that Dundalk's foes Vitesse are still in the Conference...
PartySaint
25/02/2022, 12:25 PM
just noticing that Dundalk's foes Vitesse are still in the Conference...
As are PAOK.
just noticing that Dundalk's foes Vitesse are still in the Conference...
And as bad as we were in 2021, after the 2-2 draw away to Vitesse, Dundalk should really have taken them to ET in Tallaght, had them on the ropes last 15 mins, they were delighted to get to FT.
To be fair Bohs gave POAK a right run for their money too.
Was having a look at who the other champions around Europe might be and it looks like out of the 8 other teams in Europe with the exact same co-efficient (7.0) as Rovers, 4 of them look likely be champions (Maccai Haifa, Linfield, Zrinjski Mostar and Zurich). If this happens I imagine that it would end up that some of these teams would be seeded and that some wouldn't. Does anyone know what the tie breaker criteria is in this case?
sbgawa
10/03/2022, 9:20 PM
Tie breakers is teams who play in green and white hoops first
sidewayspasser
10/03/2022, 10:15 PM
Was having a look at who the other champions around Europe might be and it looks like out of the 8 other teams in Europe with the exact same co-efficient (7.0) as Rovers, 4 of them look likely be champions (Maccai Haifa, Linfield, Zrinjski Mostar and Zurich). If this happens I imagine that it would end up that some of these teams would be seeded and that some wouldn't. Does anyone know what the tie breaker criteria is in this case?
Co-efficient points from the most recent season, I think.
Depending on final euro placings, could be a chance that Rovers will be seeded in CL qualifiers in July, this is hugely important to get on the seeded side of the draw.
If Dundalk qualify for 2023 or 2024, the points gained from previous coefficient should be enough to still be seeded in earlier rounds, but it will evaporate in 2025.
Looks like Rovers seeding is going come come down to the title race in Slovenia. 4 games left there with the top 2 playing each other this weekend. Rovers will be hoping the Koper can win away to Maribor to take control there.
Also it looks like that if Russian clubs continue to be expelled from European competition that Pat's would enter the ECL in the second round.
Buller
27/04/2022, 7:11 PM
Looks like Rovers seeding is going come come down to the title race in Slovenia. 4 games left there with the top 2 playing each other this weekend. Rovers will be hoping the Koper can win away to Maribor to take control there.
Also it looks like that if Russian clubs continue to be expelled from European competition that Pat's would enter the ECL in the second round.
Yes, added it all up and came to that conclusion too - 30th April is marked this weekend for Maribor v Koper. :hat:
I wasn't sure how the multiple 7.0 teams in CL 1st round would be sorted out though; had been hoping Cliftonville would pip Linfield in the Irish league but if its true going by most recent reasons co-eff as tie breaker, we should be okay! (Rovers 2.5 to Linfields 2.0 in 2021)
2 Year Contract
02/05/2022, 6:44 PM
Confirmed today that Russian clubs won’t be let compete in UEFA competitions so Pats will start in the second qualifying round of the conference league as a result
EatYerGreens
02/05/2022, 7:04 PM
Confirmed today that Russian clubs won’t be let compete in UEFA competitions so Pats will start in the second qualifying round of the conference league as a result
Good news on both scores there
So it looks like the Russian exclusion has meant that Rovers are now confirmed as seeded in the CL. Chance that Linfield could also be seeded also if Koper win their final game of the season.
Also means Swiss champions go straight into the next round, they would have been one of the strong unseeded clubs in the otherside of the draw of Rovers. Polish, Kazak and Belarussian champions will still be there as possibilities. Should be (slight) favourites against any of the other 12 unseeded teams. The level Talinn were at last year goes to show how few easy games there are in this competition anymore.
brendy_éire
11/05/2022, 9:42 PM
Also means Swiss champions go straight into the next round, they would have been one of the strong unseeded clubs in the otherside of the draw of Rovers. Polish, Kazak and Belarussian champions will still be there as possibilities.
Belarusian sides have to play their home match outside the country, behind closed doors. Maybe a bit of a leveller?
Of course, where would they play, who would have them? It's probably only Serbia, Armenia or Kazakhstan would be willing to host them.
joey B
11/05/2022, 9:49 PM
Belarusian sides have to play their home match outside the country, behind closed doors. Maybe a bit of a leveller?
Of course, where would they play, who would have them? It's probably only Serbia, Armenia or Kazakhstan would be willing to host them.
Viktor Orban would probably take them too!
EatYerGreens
11/05/2022, 11:36 PM
Belarusian sides have to play their home match outside the country, behind closed doors. Maybe a bit of a leveller?
Of course, where would they play, who would have them? It's probably only Serbia, Armenia or Kazakhstan would be willing to host them.
They should be bucked out of the whole thing along with the Russians.
Though that would require UEFA having a scintilla of decency as an organisation.
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